From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 30 Nov 2002 16:18:33 -0000 Issue 559 Date: Saturday, November 30, 2002 8:19 AM krnet Digest 30 Nov 2002 16:18:33 -0000 Issue 559 Topics (messages 13397 through 13413): Epoxy Usage 13397 by: Robert7721.aol.com engine swap 13398 by: Oscar Zuniga Re: Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine 13399 by: Willard561.aol.com 13400 by: Robert X. Cringely 13409 by: Serge Vidal 13410 by: Serge Vidal 13411 by: Beverly 13413 by: Robert X. Cringely A future KR netter can anyone help? 13401 by: Danny Livingstone Re: Landing Gear Length 13402 by: Al Friesen Rand Robinson 13403 by: Dan Heath 13404 by: gleone 13406 by: Mark Langford 13407 by: ROBERT COOPER 13408 by: Mark Langford Re: 27 years KR Newsletter 13405 by: The Ainsworths Stub Wings 13412 by: Mark Jones Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 11:10:01 EST To: pjohnson@voyageur.ca, krnet@mailinglists.org From: Robert7721@aol.com Subject: Epoxy Usage Message-ID: <130.183d422f.2b18eb59@aol.com> --part1_130.183d422f.2b18eb59_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Peter, I think I've used 4-5 gallons of Aeropoxy/West Systems epoxy for the entire=20 aircraft. All I have left to do is the filling and sanding. =20 Tail feathers were done with West System before I switched to Aeropoxy, (cos= t=20 reasons only). About 1/2 gallon. The wings took quite a bit of epoxy, probably 2 to 2/12 gallons. I did=20 scratch build them. Aft turtle deck and canopy took 1 gallon Forward deck/fuel tank was 1 gallon of vinylester. =20 Rob Schmitt Lee's Summit, MO From: "Peter Johnson" To: Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 11:51 PM Subject: KR> Epoxy Usage..?? A question to the group if I may... How much epoxy have you all used for the work you've done to date? I've got all the wood work complete, and the turtledeck, canopy framing and foredeck is almost complete.=A0 I've yet to begin installing foam on the wings, tailfeathers etc., and I've just ordered my FIFTH gallon of epoxy! (No, I'm not trying to refinish the shop floor with it..) True, there's probably a gallon total remaining between the Aeropoxy and T-88, but FIVE gallons??!! Could anyone recall how much epoxy you used to cloth the wings and tailfeathers? Thanks in advance. Peter Johnson KR-2S Kenora, Ontario mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca =20 =20 =20 =20 --part1_130.183d422f.2b18eb59_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:30:50 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: engine swap Message-ID: Here's the latest from Mac, about engine swaps. This is forwarded because Mac can't seem to post to this list. -Oscar Z. ---------------------------------- Time: 05:25:37 AM PST US From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: KR-List: kr converting to continental power I'm toying with 0200 power. Marty Roberts' KR was VW powered in the early days, also Troy Petteway. I can't find any archives on converting so I'd love to see anything from somebody that's done it, to make photos and data on converting. From what I have read the firewall needs to be beefed up and more vertical stab/rudder is desirable. Don't get me wrong, I love the VW power but after seeing KR2 with C85 fly it jumps into the air and climbs like a homesick angel regardless of the temp. By the way, Marty's aircraft was the VW-class winner in the 1991 Sun 100 air race at 192.21 MPH. Wow!!! 85 HP! Second place was Monte McLean with a 65 HP VW (June 1991 Sport Aviation Sun 100 race) mac n1055a _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 12:21:01 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Willard561@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Message-ID: <2F1054CA.69977323.0D33130B@aol.com> Sewrge could you post some drawings & pictures of your ignition, as well as what Honda it came off? Thanks, Bill Higdon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:39:52 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Message-Id: Interesting choices you have made there, Serge. I would suggest, though, that you consider installing a mechanical fuel pump. The boss for it is there, right? So it shouldn't be a big problem and certainly better than "hoping that the gravity feed will work." Bob >ZS-WEC, my trusted KR2, has passed her second annual inspection under my >ownership. She now has 380 hours on the clock, flown over 8 years. I flew >nearly 100 hours in two years. Not too bad, considering that it took me 8 >months to fly the first 15 hours, 'cause I could not get hold of the >instructor! > >During these two years, I have rebuilt about everything I can thik of on >that plane, the next big step being the engine. >The current engine is a VW Type 4, with dual electronic ignition, and it >runs like clockwork, like it did for the past 380 hours. So, will you ask, >why change it? >Well, first of all, I happen to live in Johannesburg, with an airfield >altitude of 5500', and the country is blessed with good weather, so density >altitudes can often exceed 9000'! So, there is not much left up here of the >theoretical 65hp of the 2 liter Type 4 engine! >Second, the previous owner optimized the prop for speed at sea level, so >here, the engine battles to turn the prop. Actually, I never managed to get >more than 3050 RPM. Yes, I know I could change the prop. I actuall did once, >'cause it was broken, but I put back an exact replica. Don't ask me why. In >summer, my climb rate does not exceed 150fpm, and I don't dare fly with two >people on board. >Third, the engine is now a bit weak, the compressions have dropped a bit. >Yes, I know that's easy to fix, but... > >Can't you guys understand that I really want a new engine?? ;- ) > >I now have a brand new, beautiful Type 4 , 2.4 liter sitting idle in my >garage. That should give me at least 80 hp instead of the current 65. I >intend to keep the same prop, and see how it goes. > >The plan was to change only the engine, but nothing ever works according to >plan. This one will have dual spark plugs, so I have to modify the >electronic ignition accordingly: 4 coils instead of 2, and of course, a new >bracket for the coils. Of course, the bafflings have to be modified to >accept the second spark plug. >Then, the current engine has a fuel pump, the new one does not. S,o I have >to install an electric pump for take-off and landing (and hope that the >gravity-feed will work). This means modifying the instrument panel, and >doing some wiring. Also, the engine is larger by only 12mm (that's 1/2 inch >for those of you who still count in dead king's body parts), so guess what? >The cowlings will not fit. And I forgot to mention the biggest hassle: since >the propeller hub is of a different diameter, I have to redo the front >ignition! > >Let me explain that one. My solid state ignition systems come straight from >Honda motorcycles. I have one mounted at the rear end of the crankshaft, and >one mounted at the front end (propeller hub). Now, the one at the back is >exactly as it was on the bike: complete with the centrifugal advance-retard >mechanism, and magnetic pick-ups. The one at the font is salvaged: the two >magnetic pick-ups are re-installed on a support plate. The magnetic "top" is >fixed, non adjustable; it is given by a grubscrew that is screwed to the >propeller hub. It should fire at 25 degrees before top dead center, but >since the magnetic mass of the grubscrew is different from the one of the >original rotor, well, one has to make an ignition jig, measure the offset, >and then build the support plate accordingly. > >So, how far am I? >- Bafflings: modified (but will need to be repainted sometimes) >- Coils bracket: built, not installed yet; >- Fuel pump: wiring done, pump not installed yet >- Ignition support plate: template done >- One nifty bracket done for the 8 spark plug leads (all spark plug holes >are at the top) >- Engine cowlings: not touched yet > >I make templates for all my sheet metal parts. These are made with >Powerpoint. The templates for the coils bracket and the Type 4 engine front >support plate are available on request. > >Serge Vidal >KR2 ZS-WEC >Johannesburg, South Africa > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 10:12:04 +0200 To: From: "Serge Vidal" Subject: RE: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Message-ID: <001101c29848$9b582e70$90c621c4@sergevidal12> Yey, Bob, who do you think I am? ;-) I checked that engine, zilch, nada, nothing! Actually, the block is fairly new (you know my obsession for reiability!) and comes from one of the last versions, which was fuel injected. So, the fuel pump area is just a flat aluminum wall. I think that the carb being slightly lower than the tank, it will work OK. I've seen a couple of aircraft with the same layout. Gravity can't fail, as Tony Bingelis puts it... but I'm not too sure of what the failure modes of the VW pump are! Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: Robert X. Cringely [mailto:bob@cringely.com] Sent: 29 November 2002 19:40 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Interesting choices you have made there, Serge. I would suggest, though, that you consider installing a mechanical fuel pump. The boss for it is there, right? So it shouldn't be a big problem and certainly better than "hoping that the gravity feed will work." Bob >ZS-WEC, my trusted KR2, has passed her second annual inspection under my >ownership. She now has 380 hours on the clock, flown over 8 years. I flew >nearly 100 hours in two years. Not too bad, considering that it took me 8 >months to fly the first 15 hours, 'cause I could not get hold of the >instructor! > >During these two years, I have rebuilt about everything I can thik of on >that plane, the next big step being the engine. >The current engine is a VW Type 4, with dual electronic ignition, and it >runs like clockwork, like it did for the past 380 hours. So, will you ask, >why change it? >Well, first of all, I happen to live in Johannesburg, with an airfield >altitude of 5500', and the country is blessed with good weather, so density >altitudes can often exceed 9000'! So, there is not much left up here of the >theoretical 65hp of the 2 liter Type 4 engine! >Second, the previous owner optimized the prop for speed at sea level, so >here, the engine battles to turn the prop. Actually, I never managed to get >more than 3050 RPM. Yes, I know I could change the prop. I actuall did once, >'cause it was broken, but I put back an exact replica. Don't ask me why. In >summer, my climb rate does not exceed 150fpm, and I don't dare fly with two >people on board. >Third, the engine is now a bit weak, the compressions have dropped a bit. >Yes, I know that's easy to fix, but... > >Can't you guys understand that I really want a new engine?? ;- ) > >I now have a brand new, beautiful Type 4 , 2.4 liter sitting idle in my >garage. That should give me at least 80 hp instead of the current 65. I >intend to keep the same prop, and see how it goes. > >The plan was to change only the engine, but nothing ever works according to >plan. This one will have dual spark plugs, so I have to modify the >electronic ignition accordingly: 4 coils instead of 2, and of course, a new >bracket for the coils. Of course, the bafflings have to be modified to >accept the second spark plug. >Then, the current engine has a fuel pump, the new one does not. S,o I have >to install an electric pump for take-off and landing (and hope that the >gravity-feed will work). This means modifying the instrument panel, and >doing some wiring. Also, the engine is larger by only 12mm (that's 1/2 inch >for those of you who still count in dead king's body parts), so guess what? >The cowlings will not fit. And I forgot to mention the biggest hassle: since >the propeller hub is of a different diameter, I have to redo the front >ignition! > >Let me explain that one. My solid state ignition systems come straight from >Honda motorcycles. I have one mounted at the rear end of the crankshaft, and >one mounted at the front end (propeller hub). Now, the one at the back is >exactly as it was on the bike: complete with the centrifugal advance-retard >mechanism, and magnetic pick-ups. The one at the font is salvaged: the two >magnetic pick-ups are re-installed on a support plate. The magnetic "top" is >fixed, non adjustable; it is given by a grubscrew that is screwed to the >propeller hub. It should fire at 25 degrees before top dead center, but >since the magnetic mass of the grubscrew is different from the one of the >original rotor, well, one has to make an ignition jig, measure the offset, >and then build the support plate accordingly. > >So, how far am I? >- Bafflings: modified (but will need to be repainted sometimes) >- Coils bracket: built, not installed yet; >- Fuel pump: wiring done, pump not installed yet >- Ignition support plate: template done >- One nifty bracket done for the 8 spark plug leads (all spark plug holes >are at the top) >- Engine cowlings: not touched yet > >I make templates for all my sheet metal parts. These are made with >Powerpoint. The templates for the coils bracket and the Type 4 engine front >support plate are available on request. > >Serge Vidal >KR2 ZS-WEC >Johannesburg, South Africa > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 10:07:15 +0200 To: From: "Serge Vidal" Subject: RE: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Message-ID: <001001c29848$99d733c0$90c621c4@sergevidal12> I will work at it this week-end. According to the bike second-hand spares shops where I bought the second set, these were used on the Honda CB series, throughout the range, for almost all the eighties. But they are easily identified on pictures, don't worry! Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: Willard561@aol.com [mailto:Willard561@aol.com] Sent: 29 November 2002 19:21 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Sewrge could you post some drawings & pictures of your ignition, as well as what Honda it came off? Thanks, Bill Higdon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 09:01:43 -0500 To: From: "Beverly" Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Message-ID: <003c01c29879$03af7390$708b2141@Beverly> Bob, Good suggestion for solving a potential problem with the gravity flow, but I would not install/attempt to install a mechanical pump, unless there was no other choice. Today's versions of small, but durable electrical pumps far exceed the reliability of the older mechanical that would have to be installed in that engine. Also, he may not have the internal drive mechanisms necessary for correct operation. Often the engine casting will not be changed for economic reasons, but the internal parts are eliminated. My 3.4 V6 is in the same family as the earlier 2.8V6, yet behind the fuel pump boss is empty space. The electric pump will give greater flexibility in location, plumbing, no modifications to the cowling, and if the location is chosen well, easier maintenance access later. Just some thoughts... Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert X. Cringely" To: Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 12:39 PM Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine > Interesting choices you have made there, Serge. I would suggest, > though, that you consider installing a mechanical fuel pump. The > boss for it is there, right? So it shouldn't be a big problem and > certainly better than "hoping that the gravity feed will work." > > > Bob > > > > > > > >ZS-WEC, my trusted KR2, has passed her second annual inspection under my > >ownership. She now has 380 hours on the clock, flown over 8 years. I flew > >nearly 100 hours in two years. Not too bad, considering that it took me 8 > >months to fly the first 15 hours, 'cause I could not get hold of the > >instructor! > > > >During these two years, I have rebuilt about everything I can thik of on > >that plane, the next big step being the engine. > >The current engine is a VW Type 4, with dual electronic ignition, and it > >runs like clockwork, like it did for the past 380 hours. So, will you ask, > >why change it? > >Well, first of all, I happen to live in Johannesburg, with an airfield > >altitude of 5500', and the country is blessed with good weather, so density > >altitudes can often exceed 9000'! So, there is not much left up here of the > >theoretical 65hp of the 2 liter Type 4 engine! > >Second, the previous owner optimized the prop for speed at sea level, so > >here, the engine battles to turn the prop. Actually, I never managed to get > >more than 3050 RPM. Yes, I know I could change the prop. I actuall did once, > >'cause it was broken, but I put back an exact replica. Don't ask me why. In > >summer, my climb rate does not exceed 150fpm, and I don't dare fly with two > >people on board. > >Third, the engine is now a bit weak, the compressions have dropped a bit. > >Yes, I know that's easy to fix, but... > > > >Can't you guys understand that I really want a new engine?? ;- ) > > > >I now have a brand new, beautiful Type 4 , 2.4 liter sitting idle in my > >garage. That should give me at least 80 hp instead of the current 65. I > >intend to keep the same prop, and see how it goes. > > > >The plan was to change only the engine, but nothing ever works according to > >plan. This one will have dual spark plugs, so I have to modify the > >electronic ignition accordingly: 4 coils instead of 2, and of course, a new > >bracket for the coils. Of course, the bafflings have to be modified to > >accept the second spark plug. > >Then, the current engine has a fuel pump, the new one does not. S,o I have > >to install an electric pump for take-off and landing (and hope that the > >gravity-feed will work). This means modifying the instrument panel, and > >doing some wiring. Also, the engine is larger by only 12mm (that's 1/2 inch > >for those of you who still count in dead king's body parts), so guess what? > >The cowlings will not fit. And I forgot to mention the biggest hassle: since > >the propeller hub is of a different diameter, I have to redo the front > >ignition! > > > >Let me explain that one. My solid state ignition systems come straight from > >Honda motorcycles. I have one mounted at the rear end of the crankshaft, and > >one mounted at the front end (propeller hub). Now, the one at the back is > >exactly as it was on the bike: complete with the centrifugal advance-retard > >mechanism, and magnetic pick-ups. The one at the font is salvaged: the two > >magnetic pick-ups are re-installed on a support plate. The magnetic "top" is > >fixed, non adjustable; it is given by a grubscrew that is screwed to the > >propeller hub. It should fire at 25 degrees before top dead center, but > >since the magnetic mass of the grubscrew is different from the one of the > >original rotor, well, one has to make an ignition jig, measure the offset, > >and then build the support plate accordingly. > > > >So, how far am I? > >- Bafflings: modified (but will need to be repainted sometimes) > >- Coils bracket: built, not installed yet; > >- Fuel pump: wiring done, pump not installed yet > >- Ignition support plate: template done > >- One nifty bracket done for the 8 spark plug leads (all spark plug holes > >are at the top) > >- Engine cowlings: not touched yet > > > >I make templates for all my sheet metal parts. These are made with > >Powerpoint. The templates for the coils bracket and the Type 4 engine front > >support plate are available on request. > > > >Serge Vidal > >KR2 ZS-WEC > >Johannesburg, South Africa > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 08:18:47 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: RE: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine Message-Id: Actually, gravity CAN fail if you don't have much head and the plumbing in the way is constrictive. So be sure to do a flow test by setting your aircraft in the climb position, fill the tank to the minimum you would consider flying with, and see whether you get adequate gravity flow to the carburetor. Builders too often do this flow test with a full tank, but the condition you need to test for is the end of a long trip when something requires you to do a go-around. Put two gallons in the tank and see what happens. I had a problem of fuel vaporization at the mechanical fuel pump on the Lycoming in my Glasair so I went to an electric pump, too. But I used a pair of Facet pumps in series with each connected to a different battery (I have two batteries and two alternators because I also use dual electronic ignition). Bob >Yey, Bob, who do you think I am? ;-) I checked that engine, zilch, nada, >nothing! > >Actually, the block is fairly new (you know my obsession for reiability!) >and comes from one of the last versions, which was fuel injected. So, the >fuel pump area is just a flat aluminum wall. >I think that the carb being slightly lower than the tank, it will work OK. >I've seen a couple of aircraft with the same layout. Gravity can't fail, as >Tony Bingelis puts it... but I'm not too sure of what the failure modes of >the VW pump are! > >Serge Vidal >KR2 ZS-WEC >Johannesburg, South Africa > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert X. Cringely [mailto:bob@cringely.com] >Sent: 29 November 2002 19:40 >To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: Re: KR> Latest news of ZS-WEC's new engine > > >Interesting choices you have made there, Serge. I would suggest, >though, that you consider installing a mechanical fuel pump. The >boss for it is there, right? So it shouldn't be a big problem and >certainly better than "hoping that the gravity feed will work." > > >Bob > > > > > > >>ZS-WEC, my trusted KR2, has passed her second annual inspection under my >>ownership. She now has 380 hours on the clock, flown over 8 years. I flew >>nearly 100 hours in two years. Not too bad, considering that it took me 8 >>months to fly the first 15 hours, 'cause I could not get hold of the >>instructor! >> >>During these two years, I have rebuilt about everything I can thik of on >>that plane, the next big step being the engine. >>The current engine is a VW Type 4, with dual electronic ignition, and it >>runs like clockwork, like it did for the past 380 hours. So, will you ask, >>why change it? >>Well, first of all, I happen to live in Johannesburg, with an airfield >>altitude of 5500', and the country is blessed with good weather, so density >>altitudes can often exceed 9000'! So, there is not much left up here of the >>theoretical 65hp of the 2 liter Type 4 engine! >>Second, the previous owner optimized the prop for speed at sea level, so >>here, the engine battles to turn the prop. Actually, I never managed to get >>more than 3050 RPM. Yes, I know I could change the prop. I actuall did >once, >>'cause it was broken, but I put back an exact replica. Don't ask me why. In >>summer, my climb rate does not exceed 150fpm, and I don't dare fly with two >>people on board. >>Third, the engine is now a bit weak, the compressions have dropped a bit. >>Yes, I know that's easy to fix, but... >> >>Can't you guys understand that I really want a new engine?? ;- ) >> >>I now have a brand new, beautiful Type 4 , 2.4 liter sitting idle in my >>garage. That should give me at least 80 hp instead of the current 65. I >>intend to keep the same prop, and see how it goes. >> >>The plan was to change only the engine, but nothing ever works according to >>plan. This one will have dual spark plugs, so I have to modify the >>electronic ignition accordingly: 4 coils instead of 2, and of course, a new >>bracket for the coils. Of course, the bafflings have to be modified to >>accept the second spark plug. >>Then, the current engine has a fuel pump, the new one does not. S,o I have >>to install an electric pump for take-off and landing (and hope that the > >gravity-feed will work). This means modifying the instrument panel, and >>doing some wiring. Also, the engine is larger by only 12mm (that's 1/2 inch >>for those of you who still count in dead king's body parts), so guess what? >>The cowlings will not fit. And I forgot to mention the biggest hassle: >since >>the propeller hub is of a different diameter, I have to redo the front >>ignition! >> >>Let me explain that one. My solid state ignition systems come straight from >>Honda motorcycles. I have one mounted at the rear end of the crankshaft, >and >>one mounted at the front end (propeller hub). Now, the one at the back is >>exactly as it was on the bike: complete with the centrifugal advance-retard >>mechanism, and magnetic pick-ups. The one at the font is salvaged: the two >>magnetic pick-ups are re-installed on a support plate. The magnetic "top" >is >>fixed, non adjustable; it is given by a grubscrew that is screwed to the >>propeller hub. It should fire at 25 degrees before top dead center, but >>since the magnetic mass of the grubscrew is different from the one of the >>original rotor, well, one has to make an ignition jig, measure the offset, >>and then build the support plate accordingly. >> >>So, how far am I? >>- Bafflings: modified (but will need to be repainted sometimes) >>- Coils bracket: built, not installed yet; >>- Fuel pump: wiring done, pump not installed yet >>- Ignition support plate: template done >>- One nifty bracket done for the 8 spark plug leads (all spark plug holes >>are at the top) >>- Engine cowlings: not touched yet >> >>I make templates for all my sheet metal parts. These are made with >>Powerpoint. The templates for the coils bracket and the Type 4 engine front >>support plate are available on request. >> >>Serge Vidal >>KR2 ZS-WEC >>Johannesburg, South Africa >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >>To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >>See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >>or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > >-- > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 20:51:07 +0200 To: From: "Danny Livingstone" Subject: A future KR netter can anyone help? Message-ID: <008d01c297d8$47e252e0$0100a8c0@HOME> ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C297E9.0B6B22E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Dario Cesar Bega Rodriguez [mailto:bega@cpenet.com.ar]=20 Sent: 24 November 2002 08:06 AM To: djlkr2@telkomsa.net Subject:=20 =20 I=B4m Pilot Argentino. I like the contruction of KR2=20 I have manuals but not haven=B4t plans. I need plans I need plans or information about it. Thanks you =20 Bega-Rodriguez Dario Cesar bega@cpenet.com.ar =20 =20 =20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 20/11/02 ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C297E9.0B6B22E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 06:59:27 -0800 To: From: "Al Friesen" Subject: Re: KR> Landing Gear Length Message-ID: <004c01c297be$aa84b740$2b5d7240@s8z8i0> ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C29774.DB7B8120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, I had Robbie Grove remake my gear as the first one had too much forward = stance. He cut the second gear from a piece of stock which on the flat = had a straight front edge. The rear was cut on a forward angle from the = fuse to the wheel attach point. When mounted on the fuse bottom in front = of the spar area (which has an upward slant) gives the gear the correct = forward stance for good ground handling and take off as well as landing. = The axles with tail up level line up with the leading edge of the wing = stubs. I also had him drill the legs for the brake lines. Mine gear is = 3/4" thick by 5" wide at the fuse attach area, 4 bolts each side = directly through the fuse with 5/8" internal block then into the steel = welded up spar bracket. The bracket has 2 upper and 2 lower bolts = through the spar with alum back plates. There is no center bracket as = Robby said that the gear needs to flex in the center. I covered the gear = with a piece of alum for better airflow at the bottom of the fuse, about = 14" front to back measure, full width. Drill one hole down from spar = bracket, tighten in a bolt, then measure back to a tail spring bolt to = each axle until both sides are equal. When it is right drill opposite = hole through the spar bracket, bolt it up and drill the other 6 holes. = Remove and deburr the holes. Al ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C29774.DB7B8120-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 16:19:26 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: "krnet@mailinglists.org" From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Rand Robinson Message-Id: <3DE8040E.000008.01096@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_EW4DRN00000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_EW4DMY50000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_EW4DMY50000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know what happened to the RR Site? I have tried over a two w= eek period and the page is not found. =0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D =20 --------------Boundary-00=_EW4DMY50000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone know what happened to the RR Site?  I have tried ov= er a two week period and the page is not found. 
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath

See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder= =2Eorg  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

 

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<= A href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9">= 3D""  IncrediMail - Email has= finally evolved - = Click Here --------------Boundary-00=_EW4DMY50000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_EW4DRN00000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 16:44:04 -0700 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: gleone Subject: Re: KR> Rand Robinson Message-ID: <3DE7FB6F.14C95CA9@tritel.net> --------------CCB30935CE1ACC97E38F59C1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If it's any help, it was up and running earlier this week. Dan Heath wrote: > Does anyone know what happened to the RR Site? I have tried over a two week period and the page is not found. DanRH@KR-Builder.org See ya in Red Oak --- 2003, Daniel R. Heath See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic. See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG > ____________________________________________________ > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here --------------CCB30935CE1ACC97E38F59C1 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------89D98D9FE91597012273471A" --------------89D98D9FE91597012273471A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If it's any help, it was up and running earlier this week.

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Does anyone know what happened to the RR Site?  I have tried over a two week period and the page is not found.  

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R. Heath

See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG
 


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--------------89D98D9FE91597012273471A Content-Type: application/x-unknown-content-type Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="" --------------89D98D9FE91597012273471A Content-Type: application/x-unknown-content-type Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="" --------------89D98D9FE91597012273471A-- --------------CCB30935CE1ACC97E38F59C1-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:26:21 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Rand Robinson Message-ID: <008301c29820$41138950$0a00a8c0@800Athlon> ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C297ED.F632C180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan Heath wrote: >>Does anyone know what happened to the RR Site? I have tried = over a two week period and the page is not found. <<=20 There's no telling what's going on with that web site, but it looks like = the server is down completely. As bad as the web site itself is, the = ISP is even worse! Most of y'all probably didn't notice that after = something like 4 years of stagnation, I talked Jeannette into letting me = fix the mispelled words, and do a little updating here and there. I put = the latest price lists on there several months ago, and she's sending me = a few more updates soon. I had planned to move the site to a new = location soon (mainly for economic reasons), and this might just be the = incentive needed to get things rolling. When I get a chance I will try = to make the site more useful to the KR community. But for right now, if = you really need to see it, I've thrown it up on my website temporarily, = at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/fly-kr/ ... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C297ED.F632C180-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 22:45:48 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> Rand Robinson Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C297F9.0FF28C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is the addess on this site current? Two times I have mailed info to Janne= tte at the address on the website (same address that is on a business car= d I got at the gathering) and have heard nothing from her. I'm trying to = register a set of plans with her and have offered to pay to register the = plans but still no word from her so I'm not sure she has received it. If = I'm not sending the proper info or insufficient info I would like to know= . Jack Cooper =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Langford Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 10:25 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Rand Robinson Dan Heath wrote: >>Does anyone know what happened to the RR Site? I have tried over= a two week period and the page is not found. << =20 There's no telling what's going on with that web site, but it looks like = the server is down completely. As bad as the web site itself is, the ISP= is even worse! Most of y'all probably didn't notice that after somethin= g like 4 years of stagnation, I talked Jeannette into letting me fix the = mispelled words, and do a little updating here and there. I put the late= st price lists on there several months ago, and she's sending me a few mo= re updates soon. I had planned to move the site to a new location soon (= mainly for economic reasons), and this might just be the incentive needed= to get things rolling. When I get a chance I will try to make the site = more useful to the KR community. But for right now, if you really need t= o see it, I've thrown it up on my website temporarily, at http://home.hiw= aay.net/~langford/fly-kr/ ... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C297F9.0FF28C80-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:58:00 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Rand Robinson Message-ID: <00a601c29824$ad53a560$0a00a8c0@800Athlon> Jack Cooper wrote: >Is the addess on this site current? Yep, it's correct, as are the phone numbers. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:34:29 -0500 To: From: "The Ainsworths" Subject: Re: 27 years KR Newsletter Message-ID: <001101c29819$05542480$d6672fd1@garyains> For all you fellow Canadians lusting after the CD by Larry Capps 27 YEARS KR NEWSLETTER; got mine and it took just 10 days (by PayPal $47 US) door to door, no hassle. My Christmas present from me to me - do it every year; last year a beautiful Colt 45ACP (ah... but thats another story) - Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 10:05:36 -0600 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Stub Wings Message-ID: <001401c2988a$51dc5c20$e3511f41@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C29858.06FEC8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I HATE SANDING FOAM....but, I will have the tops of my stub wings = completed by the end of the weekend. Then it is time to flip the plane = over and complete the bottom. Up here in Wisconsin the low tonight will = be 8* with a high of 27* tomorrow. My garage is a toasty 80* right now. = I sure am glad I insulated and installed a heater in the garage last = winter or right now I would be regretting it. My goal is to fly to the = 2003 Gathering. I might have to retire to find enough time to complete = it by then.=20 Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C29858.06FEC8A0-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************