From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 3 Dec 2002 20:31:00 -0000 Issue 562 Date: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:31 PM krnet Digest 3 Dec 2002 20:31:00 -0000 Issue 562 Topics (messages 13474 through 13503): Re: Gravity Feed 13474 by: Serge Vidal question? 13475 by: Bdazzcamro.aol.com 13481 by: larry flesner 13483 by: BilAshl.aol.com 13484 by: BilAshl.aol.com more questions 13476 by: Bdazzcamro.aol.com 13477 by: Dan Heath 13478 by: Robert X. Cringely 13485 by: Mark Langford 13486 by: Mark Langford 13492 by: Waldokr2.aol.com 13493 by: Robert Stone Re: KR Newsletter on Hold 13479 by: JIM VANCE Re: Pics of Rick Wilson's KR2 13480 by: norm-ruth 13488 by: macwood 13496 by: Rick Wilson Rick Wilson's KR2 13482 by: larry flesner 13497 by: Rick Wilson 13498 by: Gary Ainsworth 13499 by: Rick Wilson "Wetting out" 13487 by: Robert Stone 13489 by: Anthony Underwood 13491 by: Richard Parker Re: Pics 13490 by: WMartensJr.aol.com 13500 by: Bill Higdon "Empty" messages on KRnet 13494 by: Frank Ross 13495 by: Mark Langford computer viruses 13501 by: Rick Wilson 13502 by: gleone Re: Elevator weight 13503 by: Phillip Matheson Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 21:34:00 +0200 To: From: "Serge Vidal" Subject: RE: KR> Gravity Feed Message-ID: <000001c29aa4$df9938f0$e100a8c0@sergevidal12> Eric, I know at least one example of a low wing plane that was recently flown for the first time (a Zenith, I think), with the same configuration as the KR2 (1 header tank), and purely gravity fed. So, I'm not worried; also, I have planned for a booster pump, so... Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: Eric Evezard [mailto:bonzabay@netactive.co.za] Sent: 02 December 2002 11:58 To: KR MAIL Subject: KR> Gravity Feed Hi Netters, Serge, I cannot answer for the CAA.I suggest you redirect your question to the CAA.At the time the local Approved Person ,inspecting progress on my KR said the authorities would not accept gravity feed on any aircraft (low wing ? ).I dont know.Again I suggest you contact the relevant authorities. Best Regards. Eric Evezard , South Africa. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 03:52:40 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Bdazzcamro@aol.com Subject: question? Message-ID: <156.1845b009.2b1dcad8@aol.com> --part1_156.1845b009.2b1dcad8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What does the term "wetting out" mean exactly? --part1_156.1845b009.2b1dcad8_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 06:34:32 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: question? Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021203063432.008b0340@mail.midwest.net> >What does the term "wetting out" mean exactly? >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dave, You are obviously a young man yet! :-) For those that need an explaination, never mind. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:57:06 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: BilAshl@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> question? Message-ID: <16b.17f05f40.2b1e0422@aol.com> --part1_16b.17f05f40.2b1e0422_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gentalmen if you have no idea what wetting out means please stay away from fiberglass and don't fly over my house i have worked in fiberglass for about 12 years in the past when i was a much younger man the first thing you learn is you have to wet the glass before it can cure and be of any use --part1_16b.17f05f40.2b1e0422_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 08:05:40 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: BilAshl@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> question? Message-ID: --part1_f4.2595e6be.2b1e0624_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave i am not trying to be a smart a~~ the only way you will ever learn is to ask because i am building a mold in my garage for a plane and if i can't figure it out i know all i have to do is ask a question so hopefully one day i can put a pic. of what i am building on the web.see yaaaaa. --part1_f4.2595e6be.2b1e0624_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 04:06:52 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Bdazzcamro@aol.com Subject: more questions Message-ID: <183.12d7d32e.2b1dce2c@aol.com> --part1_183.12d7d32e.2b1dce2c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm reading Marks Manual and I have some questions. 1) What is peelply? 2) Why would you lay carbon fiber down at a 45 degree angle when CFing the stub wings? 3) Can I make my stub wings wider for more fuel capacity? This is all I can think of for now but if anyone can telling the answers I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. David Swanson (soon to be flier) Tucson, AZ --part1_183.12d7d32e.2b1dce2c_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 05:55:38 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> more questions Message-Id: <3DECB7DA.000001.01116@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_QOQJQL80000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_ROQJLVC0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_ROQJLVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First, I wish I could make this reply just to you, because the rest of th= e KR world knows this stuff.=0D =0D Second, some of this is in the archives, such as peel ply. It is a speci= al cloth that you lay on the final glass layup and peel off after it has cur= ed. The purpose is to bring excess resin to the top to give a smooth finish, and it works very well on and only on simple curved or flat surfaces.=0D =0D Third, you need a book. Wetting out is getting the cloth completely wet with resin. You want to get as much resin in the cloth as you can and squeegee out the excess. =0D =0D Carbon fiber is overkill for the wings. You must lay it on the BID, 45 degree. This is for torsional strength. =0D You probably could make the wing as fat as you want as long as you keep t= he shape, but you can get all the fuel you need in the wing, as it is. You have to remember that this is a KR you are building and going to fly one = day =0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 01:07:31 AM=0D To: krnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> more questions=0D =0D I'm reading Marks Manual and I have some questions. =0D =0D 1) What is peelply?=0D 2) Why would you lay carbon fiber down at a 45 degree angle when CFing th= e =0D stub wings?=0D 3) Can I make my stub wings wider for more fuel capacity?=0D =0D This is all I can think of for now but if anyone can telling the answers = I =0D would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.=0D =0D David Swanson (soon to be flier)=0D Tucson, AZ --------------Boundary-00=_ROQJLVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
First, I wish I could make this reply just to you, because the rest = of the KR world knows this stuff.
 
Second, some of this is in the archives, such as peel ply.  It = is a special cloth that you lay on the final glass layup and peel off aft= er it has cured.  The purpose is to bring excess resin to the top to= give a smooth finish, and it works very well on and only on simple curve= d or flat surfaces.
 
Third, you need a book.  Wetting out is getting the cloth compl= etely wet with resin.  You want to get as much resin in the clo= th as you can and squeegee out the excess.  
 
Carbon fiber is overkill for the wings.  You must lay it on the= BID, 45 degree.  This is for torsional strength. 
You probably could make the wing as fat as you want as long as you k= eep the shape, but you can get all the fuel you need in the wing, as= it is.  You have to remember that this is a KR you are building and= going to fly one day.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

See our KR2 at: ht= tp://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapte= r 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

KR Purchasing Info at= : http://fly-kr.= com 

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Date: Tuesday, Dec= ember 03, 2002 01:07:31 AM
Subject: KR> mo= re questions
 
I'm reading Marks Manual and I have some questions.
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1) What is peelply?
2) Why would you lay carbon fiber down at a 45= degree angle when CFing the
stub wings?
3) Can I make my stub win= gs wider for more fuel capacity?

This is all I can think of for no= w but if anyone can telling the answers I
would greatly appreciate it= =2E Thanks.

David Swanson (soon to be flier)
Tucson, AZ

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CF (or glass) is laid down at a 45 degree angle to increase the torsional stiffness of the wing stub. Control deflections put a torque on the wing and there is a pitching moment of the airfoil that also tends to twist the leading edge down in flight. Without torsional stiffness the wing would be too flexible and wouldn't fly as intended. Worse still, aerodynamic flutter could result leading to structural failure. Yes, you can make the stubs longer, though doing so has an impact on the strength of the center section spars and their connection to the fuselage structure. Making the stubs longer makes the center section weaker. But since there are no known failures of the KR center section, you can probably get away with adding a few inches, especially if you pay attention to keeping down the weight of the airframe. Bob > I'm reading Marks Manual and I have some questions. > >1) What is peelply? >2) Why would you lay carbon fiber down at a 45 degree angle when CFing the >stub wings? >3) Can I make my stub wings wider for more fuel capacity? > >This is all I can think of for now but if anyone can telling the answers I >would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. > >David Swanson (soon to be flier) >Tucson, AZ -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:39:52 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> more questions Message-ID: <004001c29ad1$75c803c0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C29A9F.2AC4BFD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan Heath wrote: >>First, I wish I could make this reply just to you, because the rest of = the KR world knows this stuff.<< Well, if everybody would put their return email addresses in their = "signature" at the bottom of their messages, it would certainly be = easier for those who can't figure out any other way. But surely = something with the name of "Incredimail" has some means of determining = where a message came from, and replying directly to it. I'll bet you = could find it in a few minutes if you look hard enough. If it doesn't, = I'd promptly dump it, and would recommend Microsoft's Internet Explorer, = which has pretty much become the industry standard, and it's a free = download from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads . In Explorer, one = would right click on the message then choose "reply to sender", and = you'd be done. You could also choose "properties", and then hit the = "details" tab to find out everything you'd ever want to know about the = origins of the message, including what email software they used to = create it. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C29A9F.2AC4BFD0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:50:21 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> more questions Message-ID: <001701c29ad2$ecb43d40$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> I wrote: >>In Explorer, one would right click on the message then choose "reply to sender", and you'd be done.<< Before somebody catches me on this, I was wrong. Right clicking on "reply to sender" just sends it to KRnet, but right clicking on "properties" DOES put the original sender's email address right at the top in plain sight, and a simple cut and paste is all you'd have to do to send it direct to the original sender. OR, you can hit "reply all" and delete KRnet@mailinglists.org from the "To:" field, but that takes an extra two seconds so most of you won't bother with that either... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:18:49 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Waldokr2@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> more questions Message-ID: --part1_bc.302b1d40.2b1e3369_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_bc.302b1d40.2b1e3369_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:35:00 -0600 To: From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> more questions Message-ID: <000901c29ae9$ed0b6680$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:18 AM Subject: Re: KR> more questions > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 05:29:07 -0600 To: , From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: Re: KR> KR Newsletter on Hold Message-ID: <000901c29abf$328b0d80$33000a0a@VANCE> Larry-- Thanks for the good effort: you built a better mousetrap, and they wouldn't come to buy it. Too bad--it would have been a great resource. Now for the positive side--what are you going to do with all of that free time you were going to spend on the newsletter? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry A. Capps" To: "KR Builders List (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 2:41 PM Subject: KR> KR Newsletter on Hold > KRNet, > > For those not aware - due to the lack of a subscriber base (70ish people) - > we have decided not to continue publication of the KR Newsletter. > > To all those that paid via PayPal or Money Order, your subscription has been > refunded; and for those that paid by check, your check will be destroyed and > your check number documented in our records as having been a prior > subscriber. > > We wish to gratefully thank the people that did subscribed to the KR > Newsletter through us, and we hope one day more people will see the benefit > in such a publication. > > Best Regards, > > Larry A. Capps > KR Newsletter > Naperville, IL > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:31:55 -0800 To: "krnet" From: "norm-ruth" Subject: Fw: KR> Pics of Rick Wilson's KR2 Message-ID: <003301c29ae1$1dab9b60$3f533b41@pavilion> Great pictures. I would like to know more about your landing gear. Norm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wilson" To: Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 6:54 PM Subject: KR> Pics of Rick Wilson's KR2 > I posted a few pictures of my KR2 at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rlwno7/index.html if > anyone would like to see them. Thanks, Rick Wilson. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:14:35 -0000 To: , From: "macwood" Subject: Re: KR> Pics of Rick Wilson's KR2 Message-ID: <000e01c29ad6$511366a0$bcca403e@tinypc> That's a great job Rick-and that undercarriage (sorry-gear) looks truly awesome -would you care to elaborate a bit? Regards Mac UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" To: Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: Re: KR> Pics of Rick Wilson's KR2 > Rick..great pics..did you have an elem teacher named hailey????bob > > Rick Wilson wrote: > > > I posted a few pictures of my KR2 at > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rlwno7/index.html if > > anyone would like to see them. Thanks, Rick Wilson. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:52:12 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> Pics of Rick Wilson's KR2 Message-ID: <20021203185212.30518.qmail@web21205.mail.yahoo.com> Mac, I don't recall a teacher named Hailey, I went to school (elementary) at westside elementary in Rossville, Ga. just outside Chattanooga, Tn. Thanks, Rick Wilson. I don't know what to say about the landing gear except that the man I bought the plane from built it. It is made so that it can be converted to be retractable to the outside with a change of the brace. It could be replaced with one that folds and a hydraulic cylinder to pick it up, then the whole strut would fold up into the stub wing and a small part of the wing. Thanks, Rick. --- macwood wrote: > That's a great job Rick-and that undercarriage > (sorry-gear) looks truly > awesome -would you care to elaborate a bit? > Regards Mac UK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:49 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Pics of Rick Wilson's KR2 > > > > Rick..great pics..did you have an elem teacher > named hailey????bob > > > > Rick Wilson wrote: > > > > > I posted a few pictures of my KR2 at > > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rlwno7/index.html > if > > > anyone would like to see them. Thanks, Rick > Wilson. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: > krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 06:38:56 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Rick Wilson's KR2 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021203063856.008b39e0@mail.midwest.net> >I posted a few pictures of my KR2 at >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rlwno7/index.html if >anyone would like to see them. Thanks, Rick Wilson. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rick, Looking good. Two questions: What type plugs are you using on the 0-200 that allows you to fit the cowl without "bumps" for the top front plugs? What size prop are you using? The diameter looks rather short. Also, main gear looks interesting........... Thanks. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:10:53 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> Rick Wilson's KR2 Message-ID: <20021203191053.84006.qmail@web21209.mail.yahoo.com> Larry, The plugs are just A C (I Think). The prop is a 58"x68" It does look short in the pictures.The main gear is ok but it has one drawback-the weight. I think I can save approx. 30-35 lbs. by changing to Deihl gear. Thanks, Rick. --- larry flesner wrote: > >I posted a few pictures of my KR2 at > >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/rlwno7/index.html if > >anyone would like to see them. Thanks, Rick Wilson. > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Rick, > > Looking good. Two questions: > > What type plugs are you using on the 0-200 that > allows you > to fit the cowl without "bumps" for the top front > plugs? > What size prop are you using? The diameter looks > rather > short. Also, main gear looks > interesting........... > Thanks. > > Larry Flesner > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:52:18 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Gary Ainsworth Subject: Re: KR> Rick Wilson's KR2 Message-ID: At Tuesday, 3 December 2002, you wrote: >....... Rick Wilson, Is this the same KR that is advertised in Barnstormers by Rick Wilson?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 11:58:41 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org, garyains@kwic.com From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> Rick Wilson's KR2 Message-ID: <20021203195841.78492.qmail@web21207.mail.yahoo.com> Gary, Yes it's the same one. Thanks, Rick. --- Gary Ainsworth wrote: > At Tuesday, 3 December 2002, you wrote: > > >....... > > Rick Wilson, Is this the same KR that is advertised > in Barnstormers by > Rick Wilson?? > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 07:50:18 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: "Wetting out" Message-ID: <003a01c29ad2$ea915d40$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C29AA0.9F79CE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brush resin onto the foam. While it is still wet apply the = fiberglass cloth. Spray or brush more resin on the cloth and squeegee = toward the unsaturated parts. Whatever color the cloth is it will = change color when it becomes saturated with resin. You want to end up = with full penetration of the cloth but with all of the excess squeegeed = out. Putting peelply cloth over the job makes for less sanding because = the surface comes up much smoother when the peelply is removed. It is = very important to remove all of the excess resin because it only adds = weight and does not increase strength. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C29AA0.9F79CE00-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:59:45 -0500 To: "'KRnet@mailinglists.org'" From: Anthony Underwood Subject: RE: KR> "Wetting out" Message-ID: <01C29AB2.BB2956E0.xbs4fiverivers@xrxgsn.com> Hello out there.............This is my first reply to a subject on the kr net,but i just had to say something.I've been reading these letter's and can't help but feel if people would just READ the plans,( even if they are a little skimpy in some aeras), you would know basically what to do.You don't brush resin onto the foam, unless you want a 100 lb. wing. Read the plans ,right in the front, it say's, mix up resin AND micro baloon's and squeegee in to the foam, this is to seal and fill the foam.I don't mean to sound like a know it all smart a..s, and iv'e had to ask for a lot of help,BUT, you have to under stand the basics,and it's right there in the book. Now somebody might say i don't have a set of plans, BUY a set, if you can afford to build a airplane and get a pilots license,then you can afford a hundred or so dollar set of plans like the rest of us.If anybody think's i'm out of line my phone number is 423-587-0624 . Oh just a little tid bit, my airplane is going to be called a KorvaiR2. Anthony Underwood -----Original Message----- From: Robert Stone [SMTP:rstone4@hot.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 8:50 AM To: KRNet Subject: KR> "Wetting out" Brush resin onto the foam. While it is still wet apply the fiberglass cloth. Spray or brush more resin on the cloth and squeegee toward the unsaturated parts. Whatever color the cloth is it will change color when it becomes saturated with resin. You want to end up with full penetration of the cloth but with all of the excess squeegeed out. Putting peelply cloth over the job makes for less sanding because the surface comes up much smoother when the peelply is removed. It is very important to remove all of the excess resin because it only adds weight and does not increase strength. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 16:06:29 +0000 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Richard Parker" Subject: RE: KR> "Wetting out" Message-ID: I think the most efficient method hs been well documented as wetting out the glass on a table covered with a piece of plastic sheeting, scrape off the excess with the squeegee, mix it with balloons, put that mixture on the foam, then apply the wet glass, squeegee and remove the plastic sheet. Rich Parker Peterborough, NH richontheroad@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 10:15:19 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: WMartensJr@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Pics Message-ID: <148.3f26df8.2b1e2487@aol.com> --part1_148.3f26df8.2b1e2487_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's just a web site like any other so anyone can access it. Great pic and very nice looking bird. :) Walt In a message dated 12/3/2002 2:28:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, GoFlySlow2@aol.com writes: > http://hometown.aol.com/goflyslow2/myhomepage/personal.html > > Have to see if this shows up. I don't know if all can access aol's > personal > home pages. > --part1_148.3f26df8.2b1e2487_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 12:05:46 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Bill Higdon Subject: Re: KR> Pics Message-ID: <3DED0E9A.10608@attbi.com> Chuck, Looks good, The canopy looks a lot like a T-18. Bill Higdon GoFlySlow2@aol.com wrote: > http://hometown.aol.com/goflyslow2/myhomepage/personal.html > > Have to see if this shows up. I don't know if all can access aol's personal > home pages. > > > Chuck > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 09:18:07 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: "Empty" messages on KRnet Message-ID: <20021203171807.44870.qmail@web40904.mail.yahoo.com> I have seen two 'empty' messages on krnet recently from Waldokr2@aol.com. I am very suspicious of empty messages since my experience with Klez and Bugbear virus and advise all of you to avoid opening anything from 'Waldo' until there is some reasonable explanation. Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX alamokr2@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:08:16 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> "Empty" messages on KRnet Message-ID: <001201c29af6$f4eeacb0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Frank Ross wrote: > I am very suspicious of empty messages since my > experience with Klez and Bugbear virus and advise all > of you to avoid opening anything from 'Waldo' until > there is some reasonable explanation. Oh, there's a reason alright, and it's called inattention. If this persists I'll happily change the "reply to" back to the original sender, so those who can't be bothered with changing the address will only irritate one KRnetter, not 650 of them! Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 12:06:00 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Wilson Subject: computer viruses Message-ID: <20021203200600.75679.qmail@web21206.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Can anyone tell me if you can get a virus by simply opening an email, or do you have to open an attachment to get it? Thanks, Rick Wilson. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2002 13:24:00 -0700 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: gleone Subject: Re: KR> computer viruses Message-ID: <3DED12E0.5EE5BE51@tritel.net> You can get a virus by just opening the email depending on the virus. The simple answer is yes. Rick Wilson wrote: > Hi, Can anyone tell me if you can get a virus by > simply opening an email, or do you have to open an > attachment to get it? Thanks, Rick Wilson. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 07:34:03 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Elevator weight Message-ID: <012b01c29b0b$52da9f00$1796dccb@Matheson> Hi all. I have been off the net for some building time. I just went through 200 or so emails. I have removed the V/Stab , and removed the elevator, as I think it was to heavy, Well it weighted 12 pounds.( just under) I have been told it should be around 4 pounds, any comments? I have sent my engine mount away to get modified to take my new Aussie VW engine, see VW engines web below. I have just had a look at the Diehl wingskin tape, well worth the effort . Some great KR's flying at the end of the tape. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 See our engines at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************