From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 8 Dec 2002 22:54:27 -0000 Issue 569 Date: Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:55 PM krnet Digest 8 Dec 2002 22:54:27 -0000 Issue 569 Topics (messages 13635 through 13655): Re: retractable gear question. 13635 by: Dan Heath Re: Trailing Edge Technologies, LLC 13636 by: Mark Langford 13641 by: Robert X. Cringely 13646 by: Phillip Matheson Re: Gloves, Strobes, and Peel-Ply 13637 by: wstarrs 13650 by: Larry A. Capps Another Idea for a Strobe Light 13638 by: Peter Johnson 13644 by: Larry A. Capps 13645 by: Larry A. Capps 13647 by: Robert Stone 13648 by: Bill Higdon 13651 by: Flymaca711689.aol.com 13653 by: Flymaca711689.aol.com 13654 by: Rick Wilson More About Gloves 13639 by: Peter Johnson 13649 by: Flymaca711689.aol.com Re: Screws 13640 by: Peter Johnson update/new photos 13642 by: Tim Brown 13643 by: Dan Heath Donate the Newsletter - final bell 13652 by: Larry A. Capps 13655 by: gleone Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 06:53:46 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> retractable gear question. Message-Id: <3DF35CFA.00000A.01052@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_MP2TH890000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_MP2TCJD0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_MP2TCJD0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pedro,=0D =0D I could go into a very long story about this, but you can probably find i= t in the archives. I had three retract gear failures on my first KR. I changed it out for a gear like the Grove and never had another problem.=0D =0D I think the best gear for the KR is the Grove type with 5X5 wheels and ti= res I would use something like Cleveland brakes.=0D =0D I know the Grove is a little heavier and a little more expensive than the Diehl, but I have put the Diehl on this plane and would never attempt it again, in fact, if I had not had a partner who wanted the Diehl and was there to help me set it up, I would never have attempted it at all becaus= e the Grove type is so simple.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Saturday, December 07, 2002 04:31:22 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> retractable gear question.=0D =0D Hi guys.=0D I=B4m in the boat stage righ now, and thinking about what landing gear to= use. Really, I like how the KR2 with retractable gear looks, but to many peopl= e decides for other type of gears. Why?. Are there heavy reasons to do that= ? Apart of more weigh and complexity are there some technical things what about I dont have read yet? Also, Is there any KR2S using retractable gea= rs? Plans don=B4t say anything about.=0D Thanks for help --------------Boundary-00=_MP2TCJD0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pedro,
 
I could go into a very long story about this, but you can probably f= ind it in the archives.  I had three retract gear failures on m= y first KR.  I changed it out for a gear like the Grove and never ha= d another problem.
 
I think the best gear for the KR is the Grove type with 5X5 wheels a= nd tires.  I would use something like Cleveland brakes.
 
I know the Grove is a little heavier and a little more expensive tha= n the Diehl, but I have put the Diehl on this plane and would never attem= pt it again, in fact, if I had not had a partner who wanted the Diehl and= was there to help me set it up, I would never have attempted it at = all because the Grove type is so simple.
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

See our KR2 at: ht= tp://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapte= r 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

KR Purchasing Info at= : http://fly-kr.= com 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Saturday, De= cember 07, 2002 04:31:22 PM
Subject: KR> re= tractable gear question.
 
Hi guys.
I=B4m in the boat stage righ now, and thinki= ng about what landing gear to use. Really, I like how the KR2 with retrac= table gear looks, but to many people decides for other type of gears. Why= ?. Are there heavy reasons to do that? Apart of more weigh and complexity= are there some technical things what about I dont have read yet? Also, I= s there any KR2S using retractable gears?. Plans don=B4t say anything abo= ut.
Thanks for help

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But it seems to me that even if I had a template buyer sign a legal document that said something like "I understand that these templates are merely plots of an airfoil that I have determined through my own research are suitable for my aircraft, and promise not to hold the guy who drafted them reponsible", his widow's lawyer would quickly dig up a sufficient number of emails from me on KRnet where I've said that it's the "way to go" and where I've touted the advantages of this low drag airfoil, and so therefore it was me that convinced him to buy these templates in the first place. Until it came out in court that the builder had built in "washin" rather than "washout" and created an aircraft with a deadly stall characteristic, or didn't bother to balance his ailerons and lost one of them, or whatever, I'd be paying a lawyer and traveling to some other state for court, and taking time off from work, and, well, you get the picture. And if he knows that the LLC is mainly comprised of a doctor and an engineer, well it just might be worth the treasure hunt! And if it's a jury trial, we all know that all bets are off after the sobbing widow tells the tale of how her dead husband trusted Mark's judgement, and how Mark was just in it for the money, and hadn't cared enough about safety to pay for the $50,000 dynamic flutter analysis on an aileron built using this airfoil, and how the template drawings didn't specifically mention that the builder should mass balance the ailerons... We've tried to help out KR builders in several ways, and have plowed much of the proceeeds of TET sales right back into KR activities. TET sales have paid for my Internet connection and disk space for the past three years, for the intial startup fee for this very incarnation of KRnet, a set of plaques awarded at one of the KR Gatherings, and even donated a considerable chunk of change to help pay the hospital bills of a "friend of KRnet" pilot involved in an almost fatal crash. But I assure you, for the little that we get out of it, it's not worth worrying about the misery that some hungry lawyer could cause us because he doesn't understand how airplanes fly, or even the concept of experimental aviation... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 10:30:13 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> Trailing Edge Technologies, LLC Message-Id: I have been sued. It was a $2.5 billion corporation suing me as an individual. Though I live in California and they are in California, they sued me in Federal Court in Boston just to make the case more expensive for me. They had no real case and lost at every turn, but were supremely confident that their deep pockets would win-out. Fortunately I was smart and lucky and managed to escape with a win in the end, but that win cost me 10 months of anguish and $235,000 in legal fees that I will never get back. I feel for you, Mark, and would do the same thing myself, which is why I keep accumulating homebuilt planes in my hangar, rather than selling them. Bob >Ernest C. Aldridge wrote: > > >> I strongly urge anyone with a good product or service to continue in >business, just restructure your business to avoid lawyers and mandatory >insurances. << > >I'll be the first to admit that I don't know a thing about our "justice" >system in the US, other than that it ruins an awful lot of perfectly good >lives. But it seems to me that even if I had a template buyer sign a legal >document that said something like "I understand that these templates are >merely plots of an airfoil that I have determined through my own research >are suitable for my aircraft, and promise not to hold the guy who drafted >them reponsible", his widow's lawyer would quickly dig up a sufficient >number of emails from me on KRnet where I've said that it's the "way to go" >and where I've touted the advantages of this low drag airfoil, and so >therefore it was me that convinced him to buy these templates in the first >place. > >Until it came out in court that the builder had built in "washin" rather >than "washout" and created an aircraft with a deadly stall characteristic, >or didn't bother to balance his ailerons and lost one of them, or whatever, >I'd be paying a lawyer and traveling to some other state for court, and >taking time off from work, and, well, you get the picture. And if he knows >that the LLC is mainly comprised of a doctor and an engineer, well it just >might be worth the treasure hunt! And if it's a jury trial, we all know >that all bets are off after the sobbing widow tells the tale of how her dead >husband trusted Mark's judgement, and how Mark was just in it for the money, >and hadn't cared enough about safety to pay for the $50,000 dynamic flutter >analysis on an aileron built using this airfoil, and how the template >drawings didn't specifically mention that the builder should mass balance >the ailerons... > >We've tried to help out KR builders in several ways, and have plowed much of >the proceeeds of TET sales right back into KR activities. TET sales have >paid for my Internet connection and disk space for the past three years, >for the intial startup fee for this very incarnation of KRnet, a set of >plaques awarded at one of the KR Gatherings, and even donated a considerable >chunk of change to help pay the hospital bills of a "friend of KRnet" pilot >involved in an almost fatal crash. > >But I assure you, for the little that we get out of it, it's not worth >worrying about the misery that some hungry lawyer could cause us because he >doesn't understand how airplanes fly, or even the concept of experimental >aviation... > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 06:23:04 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Trailing Edge Technologies, LLC Message-ID: <003101c29eef$3bd851c0$a496dccb@Matheson> A word or two from an outsider on liability. Product liability is the > biggest hoax since the dawn of time. It is based on fear and ignorance, not ----------------------------------------------------------------- This sound great. But what does it cost to pay for the legal fees until it is finally dropped? Ernest ,are you a lawer? Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 See our engines at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 09:57:09 -0700 To: From: "wstarrs" Subject: Re: KR> Gloves, Strobes, and Peel-Ply Message-ID: <003601c29eda$d9491620$9200a8c0@bstarrs> Pete, Does Acklands have a web site? Or do they have a catalogue? Bill Starrs, Prescott, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Johnson" To: Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:39 PM Subject: KR> Gloves, Strobes, and Peel-Ply Here's a couple of things I hope may be of assistance to others: GLOVES - I've used vinyl gloves for doing layups and they're not worth the box they come in. I've not tried latex because of a composite workers concerns for reactions, and the kitchen variety rubber gloves we commonly use working on large hulls are too heavy and finicky for aircraft use. Recently I've been trying NITRILE gloves and am very happy with them, tough and close fitting. They're just under $20 CDN for a box of 100 at Acklands. Strobes - I picked up an 'industrial vehicle' strobe from Acklands, it's advertised as having 150,000 candle power. The electrics are located in the base of the strobe, the lens screws on and off, and the bulb is pin mounted. I'm going to locat the base in the fuse, run wires up to an epoxy cast base, and fit a lens from the back end of a 6 volt lantern. The whole thing weighs less than a pound and cost $39.95. PEEL-PLY - It can be wrapped around tight, complex curves, you need to apply it in strips narrow enough as to prevent wrinkles when you lay it. I've peel-plied the ring bulkheads on my turtledeck and canopy frame, they're 2.5" deep, .75" thick, and curved on about a 18" radius. I used strips that were 6" wide and had no problem. Hope this is of help to someone.... Peter Johnson KR-2Sexy with a Corvair Kenora, Ontario mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca --------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 15:10:39 -0600 To: "KR Builders List \(E-mail\)" From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: Gloves, Strobes, and Peel-Ply Message-ID: <001b01c29efe$42ff13d0$0200a8c0@schpankme> In actuality, any rubber glove type can have microscopic holes in them. When it comes mass produced, "cheap" and "thin" gloves, there is no guarantee they will not have holes in them unless they are tested like condoms. When it comes to gloves there is a lot truth in the saying, "You get what you pay for". Latex gloves were developed for the medical field. Main emphasis was "good feel" (sensitivity) and adequate protection from human body fluids, and "CHEAP". Never, were they intended to provide long term protection from industrial chemicals. But, because they are cheap, and have good "feel", people like you and I find them easy to work with. They do provide some level of chemical protection too. However, recently, the medical industry has discovered people are developing a sensitivity and in some cases deadly allergic reactions to latex gloves. This is not good. In short, NO glove is completely impervious to all chemicals. They are tested and rated for PERMEATION RATE for each different type chemical. Certain type rubber compounds (latex, nitrile, butyl) have lower permeation rates with certain chemicals than others. The thicker the rubber glove, the longer it takes for a chemical to permeate. In many cases, a rubber that is exceptionally good at resisting permeation of epoxy resins and curing agents, are really bad at other things you just happen to be working with at the same time - like solvents - Acetone, MEK, Lacquer Thinner, etc. (as is the case with nitrile) Gloves that provide many hours of protection. (a full "worker shift") primarily what chemical companies are interested in) are relatively thick and designed for use in harsh environments (high abrasion) over long periods of time. And as such, they have poor feel and are relatively expensive. Butyl gloves are perhaps one of the best at providing good permeation resistance to a fairly broad spectrum of chemicals. But they are fairly expensive, and as such we have a tendency to re-use them over and over, and even perhaps beyond the point of their protective life span. Cleaning the glove off with a solvent to allow future use of the glove doesn't work either. Many times, the solvent will act as carrier, making the hazardous resin or curing agent permeate even further and faster into the rubber, shortening the protective life span of the glove in total. One can easily conclude that ANY glove is adequate protection, provided you change them out frequently enough to keep ahead of the permeation rate. In our scenario as homebuilders, we need a glove that will last a least an hour or two. CHEAP seems to be the primary denominator in the homebuilding world. In my opinion, nitrile rubber gloves are a good alternative although they do not resist solvents very well. I am not referencing the industrial or harsh environment grades that are thick and have poor feel. I am referring to the thinner versions packaged in boxes of 100 much like latex gloves. They have pretty good feel, maybe not as good as latex. They are more expensive than latex, but still cheap enough to be seriously considered - DISPOSABLE. Depending on what job I am about to do I will put on a double layer of gloves. i.e., If it's a ten minute job, one pair is sufficient. If I have a job I think will either be long in duration, or has the potential to cause a tear, or may "gook" up the glove beyond the point of usefulness, I will put on a second pair over top the first pair - before starting any work with the resins. What this does is: 1). Increases the life span of the "glove protection" considerably. What little gets through the first glove, will take much longer to get through the next layer. 2). Sweating hands inside the glove makes changing gloves "on the fly" a real challenge (unless you are particularly adept at putting baby powder on). Personally, I have found it much easier and quicker for me to peel off the outer layer of glove and put on a new glove right pronto. This works really well for those instances when a glove is just too gunky to keep working with it. It is even handy when you accidentally cut a glove. Even if you cut both layers of glove - if you stop before any resin contacts your hand, you can peel off the outer layer glove and slip a new glove on in a matter of seconds. This is far better than continuing to work with a hole in your glove, and much quicker than removing gloves from both hands, re-powdering and placing new gloves on. I never re-use my gloves. If I run out of gloves, I simply don't work until I get more. Since nitrile gloves are not that good in solvents, avoid "deliberately" using them in solvents and acquire a thicker butyl glove specifically for that purpose. Solvents tend to come into play when we clean our tools after a lay-up. It is more difficult to avoid the use of clean-up solvents when it comes to scissors and expensive squeegees. But, we can avoid the use of solvents when it comes to brushes. Again, "cheap" is the common denominator here. Use them once and throw it away. Best Regards, Larry A. Capps KR Newsletter Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- GLOVES - I've used vinyl gloves for doing layups and they're not worth the box they come in. I've not tried latex because of a composite workers concerns for reactions, and the kitchen variety rubber gloves we commonly use working on large hulls are too heavy and finicky for aircraft use. Recently I've been trying NITRILE gloves and am very happy with them, tough and close fitting. They're just under $20 CDN for a box of 100 at Acklands. Peter Johnson ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 12:05:19 -0800 To: From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: Another Idea for a Strobe Light Message-ID: <004b01c29ef5$fbf04980$0a09eccf@peter> ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C29EB2.14385A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As I was driving my 'Breakdown Daily Ford Ranger' this morning, the turn = signal relay broke, (ya, there's always something on these silly ass = F.O.R.D.S). Being the type of thinker that scans all options surrounding an event or = item (kinda like a beagle who's had a table scrap thrown to it, it's not = that he's not interested in it, it's that he's more interested in where = the scrap came from!), I came up with another idea for a strobe light. The automotive flasher idea I posted yesterday was a good one, but the = truth is that the 150,000 candle power flasher is probably only bright = enough to light up the joy of the work you did in making it. Here's my evolved idea.... Take a bulb and base from a common = 1,000,000 candle power spot light, mount in on your own cast base with a = suitably scrounged lens, and wire it into a a car (no, not a Ford!), = blinker relay?! The on/off frequency is suitable, relays are common, and the bulbs for = the spot lights are readily available. Hope this is of interest to someone. See, not all things to do with = Fords are bad, just owning one! LOL!!! Peter Johnson KR-2Sexy with a GM Corvair Kenora, Ontario mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C29EB2.14385A80-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:08:37 -0600 To: From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: RE: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light Message-ID: <001501c29eed$37178040$0200a8c0@schpankme> F O R D Found On Road Dead Larry -----Original Message----- From: Peter Johnson [mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca] Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:05 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light As I was driving my 'Breakdown Daily Ford Ranger' this morning, the turn signal relay broke, (ya, there's always something on these silly ass F.O.R.D.S). Being the type of thinker that scans all options surrounding an event or item (kinda like a beagle who's had a table scrap thrown to it, it's not that he's not interested in it, it's that he's more interested in where the scrap came from!), I came up with another idea for a strobe light. The automotive flasher idea I posted yesterday was a good one, but the truth is that the 150,000 candle power flasher is probably only bright enough to light up the joy of the work you did in making it. Here's my evolved idea.... Take a bulb and base from a common 1,000,000 candle power spot light, mount in on your own cast base with a suitably scrounged lens, and wire it into a a car (no, not a Ford!), blinker relay?! The on/off frequency is suitable, relays are common, and the bulbs for the spot lights are readily available. Hope this is of interest to someone. See, not all things to do with Fords are bad, just owning one! LOL!!! Peter Johnson KR-2Sexy with a GM Corvair Kenora, Ontario mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:16:57 -0600 To: From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: Another Idea for a Strobe Light Message-ID: <001601c29eee$610ad4a0$0200a8c0@schpankme> I'm sure this "reply to list" feature will get me again. After having lived on the KRNet for so long by "replying to sender". My last email response was meant to be private, not public. I'll have to pay more attention to the "send to" line. Larry A. Capps Naperville, IL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 14:42:34 -0600 To: , From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light Message-ID: <000401c29efa$56fb0820$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> How about "FIX AND REPAIR DAILY' Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry A. Capps" To: Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 1:08 PM Subject: RE: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light > F O R D > > Found On Road Dead > > > Larry > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Johnson [mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca] > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:05 PM > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light > > > As I was driving my 'Breakdown Daily Ford Ranger' this morning, the turn > signal relay broke, (ya, there's always something on these silly ass > F.O.R.D.S). > > Being the type of thinker that scans all options surrounding an event or > item (kinda like a beagle who's had a table scrap thrown to it, it's not > that he's not interested in it, it's that he's more interested in where the > scrap came from!), I came up with another idea for a strobe light. > > The automotive flasher idea I posted yesterday was a good one, but the truth > is that the 150,000 candle power flasher is probably only bright enough to > light up the joy of the work you did in making it. > > Here's my evolved idea.... Take a bulb and base from a common 1,000,000 > candle power spot light, mount in on your own cast base with a suitably > scrounged lens, and wire it into a a car (no, not a Ford!), blinker relay?! > > The on/off frequency is suitable, relays are common, and the bulbs for the > spot lights are readily available. > > Hope this is of interest to someone. See, not all things to do with Fords > are bad, just owning one! LOL!!! > > Peter Johnson > KR-2Sexy with a GM Corvair > Kenora, Ontario > mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 12:51:03 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Bill Higdon Subject: Re: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light Message-ID: <3DF3B0B7.4020303@attbi.com> Gang, There used to be a anticolision light that used a flasher, a capcitor to slow the flash rate down, and a Quartz Iodine bulb. It worked. and was certified, also Cessna and some others use a Quartz Iodine buld with a solid state flasher. Bill Higdon Peter Johnson wrote: > As I was driving my 'Breakdown Daily Ford Ranger' this morning, the turn signal relay broke, (ya, there's always something on these silly ass F.O.R.D.S). > > Being the type of thinker that scans all options surrounding an event or item (kinda like a beagle who's had a table scrap thrown to it, it's not that he's not interested in it, it's that he's more interested in where the scrap came from!), I came up with another idea for a strobe light. > > The automotive flasher idea I posted yesterday was a good one, but the truth is that the 150,000 candle power flasher is probably only bright enough to light up the joy of the work you did in making it. > > Here's my evolved idea.... Take a bulb and base from a common 1,000,000 candle power spot light, mount in on your own cast base with a suitably scrounged lens, and wire it into a a car (no, not a Ford!), blinker relay?! > > The on/off frequency is suitable, relays are common, and the bulbs for the spot lights are readily available. > > Hope this is of interest to someone. See, not all things to do with Fords are bad, just owning one! LOL!!! > > Peter Johnson > KR-2Sexy with a GM Corvair > Kenora, Ontario > mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:06:30 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light Message-ID: <16a.18377515.2b251c66@aol.com> --part1_16a.18377515.2b251c66_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the problem with you car is they are almost unrepairable by the back yard mechanic how many beers did you drink before and after you opened the hood! i see it on Mondays all the time beer jobs leave them alone how come your talking shit about are heritage anyway i love fords chevs and plys i love all the big three if you love the other side so much go out and make some auto techs day and get a new vw bug $340.00 for brake pads and don't forget the labor by the way you cannot put the pads on due to the sensors and the ABS my mustang has over 650,000 mile one ring job one complete haul my ply is the ugliest car made i refuse to send her to the crusher it tows my 23 ft that's right GM power wellcraft for the last six summers 66 belvedere has had one rebuild total cost $500 bucks. i love foreign cars that's how i make my living on automobiles. keep America American as possible bye fords chevs and mopars have you chased ford lightning lately!!!!! mad mac --part1_16a.18377515.2b251c66_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:32:50 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: Re: Another Idea for a Strobe Light Message-ID: <3a.30b969fc.2b252292@aol.com> --part1_3a.30b969fc.2b252292_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit just remember the covair was a lemon and unsafe to Mr. nader what ass he was ass that destroyed the muscle cars bye the way my father had a corvair and so did i they leak oil they throw the belt off no heat do you want me to go on i like it it allways restared i think i no what your problem is with fords maybe its the flashing light behind you . dont get mad at me my kr is grouded due to my carb zenith old ford crap that works well and still made mad mac --part1_3a.30b969fc.2b252292_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 14:49:56 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light Message-ID: <20021208224956.94069.qmail@web21203.mail.yahoo.com> Robert, F. A. R. D.? What about FIX OR REPAIR DAILY. Just kidding, Rick Wilson. PS I think everyone knew what you meant. --- Robert Stone wrote: > How about "FIX AND REPAIR DAILY' > > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry A. Capps" > To: > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 1:08 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light > > > > F O R D > > > > Found On Road Dead > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Johnson [mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca] > > Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 2:05 PM > > To: krnet@mailinglists.org > > Subject: KR> Another Idea for a Strobe Light > > > > > > As I was driving my 'Breakdown Daily Ford Ranger' > this morning, the turn > > signal relay broke, (ya, there's always something > on these silly ass > > F.O.R.D.S). > > > > Being the type of thinker that scans all options > surrounding an event or > > item (kinda like a beagle who's had a table scrap > thrown to it, it's not > > that he's not interested in it, it's that he's > more interested in where > the > > scrap came from!), I came up with another idea for > a strobe light. > > > > The automotive flasher idea I posted yesterday was > a good one, but the > truth > > is that the 150,000 candle power flasher is > probably only bright enough to > > light up the joy of the work you did in making it. > > > > Here's my evolved idea.... Take a bulb and base > from a common 1,000,000 > > candle power spot light, mount in on your own cast > base with a suitably > > scrounged lens, and wire it into a a car (no, not > a Ford!), blinker > relay?! > > > > The on/off frequency is suitable, relays are > common, and the bulbs for the > > spot lights are readily available. > > > > Hope this is of interest to someone. See, not all > things to do with Fords > > are bad, just owning one! LOL!!! > > > > Peter Johnson > > KR-2Sexy with a GM Corvair > > Kenora, Ontario > > mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 12:11:15 -0800 To: From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: More About Gloves Message-ID: <004c01c29ef5$fcf3afc0$0a09eccf@peter> ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C29EB2.E82373C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A couple of people have asked where Acklands is, or where nitrile gloves = could be found. Acklands is a Canadian industrial supply house. I'm sure you find them = on the web if you searched, but I'm also sure that most towns with any = type of industry in them would have an industrial supply store. May I suggest a search in your local yellow pages under 'Supply - = Industrial'. =20 Larry Capps wrote me a most interesting letter about gloves. Amongst = other things he mentioned that butyl gloves are also a good material for = our use. Hope this is of help.... Peter Johnson KR-2Sexy with a GM Corvair Kenora, Ontario mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C29EB2.E82373C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 16:04:56 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> More About Gloves Message-ID: <108.1c14a7f0.2b250df8@aol.com> --part1_108.1c14a7f0.2b250df8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nitile gloves are readily available on the Mac and snap on tool trucks. as a certified tech i use them everyday use xtra lg. ones that way you can take them on and off they make a thicker type nitrile that i do not like it takes way a lot of feel they work great for lay ups and general dirty jobs ! mac n1055A --part1_108.1c14a7f0.2b250df8_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 12:22:15 -0800 To: From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: Re: KR> Screws Message-ID: <007901c29ef7$98471060$0a09eccf@peter> Hi Bob. 'PK' screws are highly exact, precision engineered, close tolerance manufactered, tested and documented, self-tapping sheet metal screws in the 'certified aircraft industry'. In our homebuilt 'industry' they are self-tapping sheet metal screws that you can buy at your local hardware store. They come with different style heads and are coated for corrosion protection. .... Three posts in a row, you can tell I'm stalling going out to the shop.. :( mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Sauer" To: "kr" Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 8:14 PM Subject: KR> Screws Does anyone know what PK screws are? I saw them mentioned for use in holding a fiberglas tailcone in place. Bob Sauer Las Vegas' From: resauer@softcom.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 10:35:17 -0800 (PST) To: Group KR NET From: Tim Brown Subject: update/new photos Message-ID: <20021208183517.2697.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> My KR2S project spent all summer upside-down while I worked on the stub wings, belly board and belly. After months of foam, sanding, glassing, sanding, micro, and oh yeah, did I mention sanding, Smooth Prime, and sanding, and more sanding, today she is standing on her mains. I had family and friends all set to flip her last weekend but they all just disappeared...every last one of them. So, last night, I flipped her myself. And much to my surprise, I didn't damage anything, not even me. I placed some new photos this AM on my website showing her still upside down last night. Clicking on the below addy should get you there. http://www.geocities.com/timwbrown/belly.html Now....onwards and upwards. Tim __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 13:48:19 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> update/new photos Message-Id: <3DF3BE23.000001.01052@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_JWLTQL80000000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_KWLTLVC0000000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_KWLTLVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That looks real good. I will be putting on smooth prime next week and am glad to hear the good news about it. We should have a lot of new KRs at = the gathering next year.=0D =0D =0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Sunday, December 08, 2002 10:35:56 AM=0D To: Group KR NET=0D Subject: KR> update/new photos=0D =0D My KR2S project spent all summer upside-down=0D while I worked on the stub wings, belly board and=0D belly. After months of foam, sanding, glassing,=0D sanding, micro, and oh yeah, did I mention=0D sanding, Smooth Prime, and sanding, and more=0D sanding, today she is standing on her mains.=0D =0D I had family and friends all set to flip her last=0D weekend but they all just disappeared...every=0D last one of them. So, last night, I flipped her=0D myself. And much to my surprise, I didn't damage=0D anything, not even me.=0D =0D I placed some new photos this AM on my website=0D showing her still upside down last night. =0D Clicking on the below addy should get you there.=0D =0D http://www.geocities.com/timwbrown/belly.html=0D =0D Now....onwards and upwards.=0D =0D Tim=0D =0D =0D __________________________________________________=0D Do you Yahoo!?=0D Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.=0D http://mailplus.yahoo.com=0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_KWLTLVC0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That looks real good.  I will be putting on smooth prime next w= eek and am glad to hear the good news about it.  We should have a lo= t of new KRs at the gathering next year.
 

 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

See our KR2 at: ht= tp://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapte= r 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

KR Purchasing Info at= : http://fly-kr.= com 

-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Sunday, Dece= mber 08, 2002 10:35:56 AM
Subject: KR> up= date/new photos
 
My KR2S project spent all summer upside-down
while I = worked on the stub wings, belly board and
belly. After months of foam,= sanding, glassing,
sanding, micro, and oh yeah, did I mention
sand= ing, Smooth Prime, and sanding, and more
sanding, today she is standin= g on her mains.

I had family and friends all set to flip her last<= BR>weekend but they all just disappeared...every
last one of them. So,= last night, I flipped her
myself. And much to my surprise, I didn't d= amage
anything, not even me.

I placed some new photos this AM o= n my website
showing her still upside down last night.
Clicking on= the below addy should get you there.

http://www.geocities.com/timwbrown/belly.ht= ml

Now....onwards and upwards.

Tim


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<= A href=3D"http://www.incredimail.com/redir.asp?ad_id=3D309&lang=3D9">= 3D""  IncrediMail - Email has= finally evolved - = Click Here --------------Boundary-00=_KWLTLVC0000000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_JWLTQL80000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 16:32:42 -0600 To: "KR Builders List \(E-mail\)" From: "Larry A. Capps" Cc: Subject: Donate the Newsletter - final bell Message-ID: <002301c29f09$b9a18e90$0200a8c0@schpankme> Don, It was I who called you (on my dime) TWICE in early June of this year, in regards to your reported background as an "Aeronautical Engineer" - which you had stated as being one in a one-page article you wrote for the - KR Newsletter (April 1992, Issue 179) which prompted me to cal you. Your only other submission to the newsletter was a one page video review you did about an AOPA incident in which you purport to know what a stall is, not ever having acquired your private pilots license - KR NEWSLETTER (October 1995, Issue 221). Not bad Don, 2-pages in 10 years. Why am I not surprised. Our phone conversation continued with me telling you about my purchasing the "rights" to the KR Newsletter, and how I was more than interested to find someone who was qualified to do the engineering drawings, I thought would be needed to make the newsletter a success. I further told you I would like to submit to you different components of the KR design for structural evaluation and would like to have the input of a licensed - certified - Aeronautical Engineer to back them up of which you said in your article and to me on the phone "you were". You agreed to assist in this endeavourer since after all "this is what I do on a daily basis". You however did state one caveat, that you "would not" be making recommendation to use any of the ideas - you were asked to verify. Sounds reasonable, and I agreed. This conversation concluded with you informing me about the plane you had been building, and the fact that it was taking you quite a bit longer to complete over the average builder due to you routinely checking all structural and engineering parameters "which you were more than qualified to do". In closing our phone conversation, I informed you of the great benefit offered by joining the KRNet and further gave you the procedure for doing so. And if anyone wanted to search the KRNet Search Engine Archives (http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp), and type in your name (Don Blankenship) in the (FROM:) section they would find that you did indeed join the list on or about the first few days of June 2002 and made your first post on June 19. Bingo! Lets continue, here's the header from an article you wrote for the newsletter. KR NEWSLETTER (April 1992, Issue 179) COMPOSITE OF BUILDING IDEAS I thought it was about time to take my turn at writing an article for the KR Newsletter. My KR-2 is about ready to fiberglass but won't be ready to fly for another two years or more since I am not a pilot yet. As an Aeronautical Engineer, I have analyzed many aspects of the plane and how builders have modified it. In the area of stability, the major concern is pitch sensitivity. Don Blankenship Now on our second and final phone conversation, I brought up the plane you were currently building and whether or not you could find or had any pictures from your design analysis to submit to the newsletter? It was at this point you informed me you didn't "actually" have an engineering degree and no Aeronautical certification, you in fact now label yourself an Aero Space Engineer - and on top of that, the plane you had actually been building these many years, you had in fact purchased pretty much in it's current state and had made very little progress on it. Color me surprised! My reason for calling you Don was so you could lend credibility to the newsletter and tickle the readers knowledge with numbers and technical drawings to make them feel could about building the fine little KR. Instead I find a guy who tells me he has written "many" articles for the KR Newsletter, has an Aeronautical Engineering degree and has built his own KR which is just a few months away from flying, JUST as soon has he gets his Private Pilots license. Goodbye - click.... Don, is it any wonder I never spent my long distant money to call you back and have further conversations Now here you are on the KRNet slandering me at every turn, and I quote you: " Instead, all people received were cruel accusations of plots, lies, deceit, and cries for extra donations above and beyond the subscription price. - Don Blankenship " Don, I'm going let prove these slanderous accusations which you so freely use to damage me, the KR Newsletter, and my CD sales in open public. As by your own words you have caused people to question my integrity and credibility and by doing so they will not buy my KR Newsletter CD. I quote you Don: "I'll reply to it instead of the almost uniform messages that cheered my notes. - Don Blankenship" Who do you think you are Mr. Don Blankenship telling me how I should pay for or how I should give away something I paid for - the KR Newsletter. - You Don, who has not been a KR Newsletter subscriber since 1996 - You Don, who purports to be things which you are not. - You Don, who lets someone else do the work, paying for the privilege of ownership and then ridicule and slander him in open public forum. - You Don, have not put any money up to save the newsletter, I DID. - You Don, have not paid for services, technical advise and software to run such an undertaking, I DID. - You Don, who did not attend the KR Gathering of 2002 in beautiful Red Oak Iowa, I DID. - You Don, who did not pay for the overnight hotel rooms, I DID - You Don, who did not pay for the rent car. And Don, I did it knowing full well I was UNEMPLOYED at the time. Yes Don, it's now up to you to answer for your ridicules and slanderous remarks. Larry A. Capps KR Newsletter Naperville, IL You cannot dig yourself out of a hole -----Original Message----- From: Donald Blankenship Subject: Donate the Newsletter, Re:Mullins Per your request for a reply, your message below was excellent. It defends Larry, so in fairness I'll reply to it instead of the almost uniform messages that cheered my notes. Your message points out that Larry acquired quite a lot of support including yours and mine to help formulate a new newsletter. He did nothing with any of that support and did not send out any newsletters. The fact that he didn't tell me about your work or about the support of others makes one wonder. If a single newsletter had actually been issued, it might have shown an inkling of sincerity in his solicitations for money. Instead, all people received were cruel accusations of plots, lies, deceit, and cries for extra donations above and beyond the subscription price. Also, as I pointed out, Larry found me by looking at my past written contributions to the newsletter I subscribed for years and would have subscribed if it had really been published I'm happy I didn't send him any money. I am sad that the newsletter is dead. If he doesn’t kill the CD sales with more whining, he’ll get a return on his investment, then maybe go on to more lucrative ventures. --Don Blankenship ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 15:54:51 -0700 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: gleone Subject: Re: KR> Donate the Newsletter - final bell Message-ID: <3DF3CDBB.D878DB6D@tritel.net> Good God, people, if you have to have pissing matches, have them privately. All this does is clutter my and everyone else's in box with two skunks pissin' at each other. For the moderator, it would be nice to find a way to filter this out. If it can be done, I think most of the KR-netters would be most appreciative. "Larry A. Capps" wrote: > Don, > > It was I who called you (on my dime) TWICE in early June of this year, in > regards to your reported background as an "Aeronautical Engineer" - which > you had stated as being one in a one-page article you wrote for the - KR > Newsletter (April 1992, Issue 179) which prompted me to cal you. > > Your only other submission to the newsletter was a one page video review > you did about an AOPA incident in which you purport to know what a stall is, > not ever having acquired your private pilots license - > KR NEWSLETTER (October 1995, Issue 221). > Not bad Don, 2-pages in 10 years. > Why am I not surprised. > > Our phone conversation continued with me telling you about my purchasing the > "rights" to the KR Newsletter, and how I was more than interested to find > someone who was qualified to do the engineering drawings, I thought would be > needed to make the newsletter a success. > > I further told you I would like to submit to you different components of the > KR design for structural evaluation and would like to have the input of a > licensed - > certified - > Aeronautical Engineer > to back them up of which you said in your article and to me on the phone > "you were". > > You agreed to assist in this endeavourer since after all > "this is what I do on a daily basis". You however did state one caveat, > that you > "would not" be making recommendation to use any of the ideas - you were > asked > to verify. Sounds reasonable, and I agreed. > > This conversation concluded with you informing me about the plane you had > been > building, and the fact that it was taking you quite a bit longer to complete > over the average builder due to you routinely checking all structural and > engineering parameters "which you were more than qualified to do". > > In closing > our phone conversation, I informed you of the great benefit offered by > joining the KRNet and further gave you the procedure for doing so. > > And if > anyone wanted to search the KRNet Search Engine Archives > (http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp), > and type in your name (Don Blankenship) in the (FROM:) section they would > find that you did indeed join the list on or about the first few days of > June 2002 > and made your first post on June 19. Bingo! > > Lets continue, here's the header from an article you wrote for the > newsletter. > > KR NEWSLETTER (April 1992, Issue 179) > > COMPOSITE OF BUILDING IDEAS > > I thought it was about time to take my turn at writing > an article for the KR Newsletter. My KR-2 is about ready > to fiberglass but won't be ready to fly for another two > years or more since I am not a pilot yet. > > As an Aeronautical Engineer, I have analyzed many aspects > of the plane and how builders have modified it. In the area > of stability, the major concern is pitch sensitivity. > > Don Blankenship > > Now on our second and final phone conversation, I brought up the plane you > were currently building and whether or not you could find or had any > pictures > from your design analysis to submit to the newsletter? > > It was at this point you > informed me you didn't "actually" have an engineering degree and no > Aeronautical certification, you in fact now label yourself an > Aero Space Engineer - and on top of that, the plane you had actually > been building these many years, you had in fact purchased pretty much in > it's current > state and had made very little progress on it. Color me surprised! > > My reason for calling you Don was so you could lend > credibility to the newsletter and tickle the readers knowledge with numbers > and technical drawings to make them feel could about building the fine > little KR. > > Instead I find a guy who tells me he has written "many" articles for the > KR Newsletter, > has an Aeronautical Engineering degree > and has built his own KR which is just a few months away from flying, > JUST as soon has he gets his Private Pilots license. Goodbye - click.... > > Don, is it any wonder I never spent my long distant money to call you back > and have further conversations > > Now here you are on the KRNet slandering me at every turn, and I quote you: > > " Instead, all people received were cruel accusations of plots, lies, > deceit, and cries for extra donations above and beyond the subscription > price. - Don Blankenship " > > Don, I'm going let prove these > slanderous accusations which you so freely use to damage me, the KR > Newsletter, and my CD sales in open public. > > As by your own words you have caused people to question my integrity and > credibility > and by doing so they will not buy my KR Newsletter CD. I quote you Don: > > "I'll reply to it instead of the almost uniform messages that cheered my > notes. - Don Blankenship" > > Who do you think you are Mr. Don Blankenship telling me how I should > pay for or how I should give away something I paid for - the KR Newsletter. > > - You Don, who has not been a KR Newsletter subscriber since 1996 > > - You Don, who purports to be things which you are not. > > - You Don, who lets someone else do the work, paying > for the privilege of > ownership and then ridicule and slander him in open public forum. > > - You Don, have not put any money up to save the newsletter, I DID. > > - You Don, have not paid for services, technical advise and software to run > such an undertaking, I DID. > > - You Don, who did not attend the KR Gathering of 2002 in beautiful > Red Oak Iowa, I DID. > > - You Don, who did not pay for the overnight hotel rooms, I DID > > - You Don, who did not pay for the rent car. > > And Don, I did it knowing full well I was UNEMPLOYED at the time. > > Yes Don, it's now up to you to answer for your ridicules and > slanderous remarks. > > Larry A. Capps > KR Newsletter > Naperville, IL > > You cannot dig yourself out of a hole > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Blankenship > Subject: Donate the Newsletter, Re:Mullins > > Per your request for a reply, your message below was excellent. > > It defends Larry, so in fairness I'll reply to it instead of the > almost uniform messages that > cheered my notes. > > Your message points out that Larry acquired quite a lot of support including > yours and mine to help formulate a new newsletter. > > He did nothing with any of that support and did not send out any > newsletters. > > The fact that he didn't tell me about your work > or about the support of others makes one wonder. > > If a single newsletter had actually been issued, > it might have shown an inkling of sincerity in his solicitations for money. > > Instead, all people received were cruel accusations of plots, lies, deceit, > and cries for extra donations above and beyond the subscription price. > > Also, as I pointed out, Larry found me by looking at my past written > contributions to the newsletter > > I subscribed for years and would have subscribed if it had really been > published > > I'm happy I didn't send him any money. > > I am sad that the newsletter is dead. > > If he doesn’t kill the CD sales with more whining, > he’ll get a return on his investment, then maybe go on to more lucrative > ventures. > > --Don Blankenship > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************