From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 12 Dec 2002 13:36:33 -0000 Issue 575 Date: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:37 AM krnet Digest 12 Dec 2002 13:36:33 -0000 Issue 575 Topics (messages 13761 through 13783): Facet fuel pump 13761 by: larry flesner fiberglass gear legs 13762 by: Oscar Zuniga pitot tube placement 13763 by: Oscar Zuniga 13766 by: JEAN VERON 13767 by: Larry A. Capps 13771 by: Dan Heath 13777 by: Brian Kraut Re: Insurance 13764 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 13765 by: gleone Re: blankenship/ where is net mom? gear pics 13768 by: Rick Wilson Corporation? WAS: Re: KR> lawyers 13769 by: Robert E. Moser Headsets 13770 by: Ron Eason 13775 by: Buddy & Cheryl 13776 by: Jim Morehead 13780 by: Richard Parker 13781 by: rossy 13783 by: Ron Eason Fuel pumps 13772 by: AviationMech.aol.com Re: Type IV mag timing 13773 by: AviationMech.aol.com Gauges 13774 by: Ron Eason Re: uv smooth prime. 13778 by: bill kirkland 13779 by: Dan Heath check valve. 13782 by: Audrey and Harold Woods Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 12:54:39 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Facet fuel pump Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20021211125439.008cbbb0@mail.midwest.net> >Larry, >The "free flow" is not that free when you try. Seems that the pump restricts >the flow somehow. Hence the problem to use it as a booster pump. >Serge Vidal +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My guess is you won't get enough flow but that's only a GUESS. >Larry Flesner ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sounds like my GUESS was right. While doing some fill/sanding, I'm still trying to "mentally" design a system where it could be used. Anyone have any ideas. Does the VW engine use a mechanical pump. If so it (the Facet) could still be used as a boost pump. Larry Flesner flesner@midwest.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:01:05 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: fiberglass gear legs Message-ID: Howdy, folks; A question was asked about procedure for laying up a fiberglass gear leg "bow". It turns out that the current edition of the Dragonfly Builders & Flyers Newsletter has a write-up on that very thing, including procedure and drawing. The only thing is you have to be a subscriber to the DFBN to get it, or at least know someone who is (I am not). If you happen to be on the CorvAIRCRAFT list, you will recognize the fiberglass gear leg builder as Jeff LeTempt, who is also converting a Corvair for use in his D'Fly. You could contact him for the info, or contact Pat Panzera ( panzera@experimental-aviation.com ) for info on obtaining the most recent issue of the DFBN. I will tell you that the raw unfinished 'bow' as it came out of the mold for the D'Fly weighed 24 lbs. and is 3" thick at the top. In final finish, it is expected to weigh 22 lbs. So now compare that to the Grove (or similar) metal leg. Oscar Zúñiga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:18:46 -0600 To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: pitot tube placement Message-ID: Howdy, folks; There has been discussion in the past regarding placement of your pitot and static ports. There is some good info, with animations, at http://www.dynondevelopment.com/docs/pitotlocating.html in this regard. Span-wise, the further out the wing, the better. Mark Langford has promised to fully tuft his airplane when he gets it flying, and then we'll have real data on pressure distribution on the plane in flight, but for now- try to keep your probe out of propwash and other disturbed flow. The one plane I have experience with, Paul Martin's stock KR2 trigear, had the pitot at the leading edge of the pilot's side wing. He had a removable probe that he would keep in the cockpit whenever the plane was on the ramp, since people kept bending or breaking it off otherwise. It was simply a slip-fit into a larger tube in the LE of the wing. I think he also had a stub with a cork or wood stopper on the end that plugged the hole when he pulled the probe out. I don't think Paul's airspeed readout was very accurate below about 60 MPH due to pitot placement. Oscar Zúñiga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:22:03 -0600 To: From: "JEAN VERON" Subject: Re: KR> pitot tube placement Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2A202.FCE203A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that the pitot tube placed well outside of the propwash with the = static tube just below it is the best choice. Lower than the wing and beh= ind the leading edge where people can't hit it. After trying several loca= tions for static ports on the fuselage it is hard to find a place of neut= ral pressure. The faster you go the greater the error on you static vente= d instruments. Just my opinion. Jean N4DD Broken Arrow, OK =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Oscar Zuniga Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:34 PM To: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> pitot tube placement =20 Howdy, folks; There has been discussion in the past regarding placement of your pitot a= nd =20 static ports. There is some good info, with animations, at http://www.dynondevelopment.com/docs/pitotlocating.html in this regard. =20 Span-wise, the further out the wing, the better. Mark Langford has promi= sed =20 to fully tuft his airplane when he gets it flying, and then we'll have re= al =20 data on pressure distribution on the plane in flight, but for now- try to= =20 keep your probe out of propwash and other disturbed flow. The one plane I have experience with, Paul Martin's stock KR2 trigear, ha= d =20 the pitot at the leading edge of the pilot's side wing. He had a removab= le =20 probe that he would keep in the cockpit whenever the plane was on the ram= p, =20 since people kept bending or breaking it off otherwise. It was simply a =20 slip-fit into a larger tube in the LE of the wing. I think he also had a= =20 stub with a cork or wood stopper on the end that plugged the hole when he= =20 pulled the probe out. I don't think Paul's airspeed readout was very =20 accurate below about 60 MPH due to pitot placement. Oscar Z=FA=F1iga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* =20 http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =20 For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2A202.FCE203A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 17:58:04 -0600 To: From: "Larry A. Capps" Subject: pitot tube placement Message-ID: <000201c2a171$256c8300$0200a8c0@schpankme> Here's some good advise, Pulled from the KRNet Archives: http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp If I were to rebuild my pitot system, I would only have a pressure tube/port under the wing and the static line would terminate in the cockpit. Another good reason to put the pitot tube under the wing is due to the fact that people walking around your KR will run into it. -- Bobby Muse The topic of Pitot installation has been covered here well yet just for completeness the Static can also. The boundary layer air location point is generally acceptable if it is perpendicular to airflow that is not turbulent or subject to change due to aircraft attitude. To avoid searching for that location many P/S installations rout a parallel 1/4 tube to the Pitot tube and plug the hole in the end facing the airflow and drill many small holes into that Static 1/4 tube thus accommodating boundary layer pressure point on something other than the external surface of the airframe. -- Bryce Guenther Aircraft Spruce has a nifty Pitot/Static tube they sell for about $16.00 it mounts with four screws, and is therefore removable if you make a mount for it. I have secured the static/pitot line with hose clamps but it's probably overkill. -- Ross Youngblood The pitot tube measures the total pressure (Pt) in the tube. This pressure is comprised of the velocity pressure (Pv - pressure due to the momentum of the wind) and the static pressure. Pv+Ps=Pt If we isolate Pv, we can then calculate the velocity of the airflow using the following equation: Pv=Pt-Ps v = 1096 * (Pv / D)^1/2 D = density of the fluid (i.e. air) Larry A. Capps KR Newsletter Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- From: JEAN VERON Subject: pitot tube placement I think that the pitot tube placed well outside of the propwash with the static tube just below it is the best choice. Lower than the wing and behind the leading edge where people can't hit it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:28:10 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> pitot tube placement Message-Id: <3DF8105A.000015.01004@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_YEOZYHI1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_YEOZTSM1VA4000000000" --------------Boundary-00=_YEOZTSM1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a line running from side to side of the fuselage behind the back sh= elf teed off and run to the front for static. I think this was overkill and= on this plane, we are going to terminate it inside the cockpit.=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC=0D =0D See our KR2 at: http://kr-builder.org Click on the Pic.=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG=0D =0D KR Purchasing Info at: http://fly-kr.com =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 03:19:52 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> pitot tube placement=0D =0D I think that the pitot tube placed well outside of the propwash with the static tube just below it is the best choice. Lower than the wing and beh= ind the leading edge where people can't hit it. After trying several location= s for static ports on the fuselage it is hard to find a place of neutral pressure. The faster you go the greater the error on you static vented instruments. Just my opinion.=0D Jean=0D N4DD=0D Broken Arrow, OK=0D =0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: Oscar Zuniga=0D Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:34 PM=0D To: krnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> pitot tube placement=0D =0D Howdy, folks;=0D =0D There has been discussion in the past regarding placement of your pitot a= nd =0D static ports. There is some good info, with animations, at=0D http://www.dynondevelopment.com/docs/pitotlocating.html in this regard. =0D Span-wise, the further out the wing, the better. Mark Langford has promis= ed =0D to fully tuft his airplane when he gets it flying, and then we'll have re= al =0D data on pressure distribution on the plane in flight, but for now- try to= =0D keep your probe out of propwash and other disturbed flow.=0D =0D The one plane I have experience with, Paul Martin's stock KR2 trigear, ha= d =0D the pitot at the leading edge of the pilot's side wing. He had a removabl= e =0D probe that he would keep in the cockpit whenever the plane was on the ram= p, =0D since people kept bending or breaking it off otherwise. It was simply a =0D slip-fit into a larger tube in the LE of the wing. I think he also had a = =0D stub with a cork or wood stopper on the end that plugged the hole when he= =0D pulled the probe out. I don't think Paul's airspeed readout was very =0D accurate below about 60 MPH due to pitot placement.=0D =0D Oscar Z=FA=F1iga=0D San Antonio, TX=0D mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com=0D website at http://www.flysquirrel.net=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D _________________________________________________________________=0D Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* =0D http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail=0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files --------------Boundary-00=_YEOZTSM1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had a line running from side to side of the fuselage behind t= he back shelf, teed off and run to the front for static.  = I think this was overkill and on this plane, we are going to terminate it= inside the cockpit.
 

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See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

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Date: Wednesday, D= ecember 11, 2002 03:19:52 PM
Subject: Re: KR>= ; pitot tube placement
 
I think that the pitot tube placed well outside of the p= ropwash with the static tube just below it is the best choice. Lower than= the wing and behind the leading edge where people can't hit it. After tr= ying several locations for static ports on the fuselage it is hard to fin= d a place of neutral pressure. The faster you go the greater the error on= you static vented instruments. Just my opinion.
Jean
N4DD
Broke= n Arrow, OK

----- Original Message -----
From: Oscar Zuniga
= Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:34 PM
To: krnet@mailinglists.org
Subject: KR> pitot tu= be placement

Howdy, folks;

There has been discussion in the= past regarding placement of your pitot and
static ports. There is so= me good info, with animations, at
http://www.dynondevelopment.com/docs/pito= tlocating.html in this regard.
Span-wise, the further out the win= g, the better. Mark Langford has promised
to fully tuft his airplane = when he gets it flying, and then we'll have real
data on pressure dis= tribution on the plane in flight, but for now- try to
keep your probe= out of propwash and other disturbed flow.

The one plane I have ex= perience with, Paul Martin's stock KR2 trigear, had
the pitot at the = leading edge of the pilot's side wing. He had a removable
probe that = he would keep in the cockpit whenever the plane was on the ramp,
sinc= e people kept bending or breaking it off otherwise. It was simply a
s= lip-fit into a larger tube in the LE of the wing. I think he also had a <= BR>stub with a cork or wood stopper on the end that plugged the hole when= he
pulled the probe out. I don't think Paul's airspeed readout was v= ery
accurate below about 60 MPH due to pitot placement.

Oscar = Z=FA=F1iga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net




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--------------Boundary-00=_YEOZTSM1VA4000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_YEOZYHI1VA4000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:15:36 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: Re: KR> pitot tube placement Message-ID: My pitot and static tubes were in a good spot, but now that I have replaced the retracts with Diehl gear they are right above the left wheel. I will have a pitot tube full of mud now if I land on a wet grass strip. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:36:16 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> Insurance Message-ID: <20021211.163616.2444.0.klw1953@juno.com> Thanks, I'll deal differently with this guy come renewal time. On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:08:00 -0700 gleone writes: > He's lying to you. In insurance, you buy a car, let's call it a > Rigatoni, > and insure it for $2400 a year. After 3 months, you decide you > can't afford > the insurance much less the gas to run this thing so you buy a Ford > Escort. > Your annual premium for the Escort might be $300. Since $600 of > premium has > been spent on the Rigatoni, you have a rebate due of $1500. Whether > you're > talking auto insurance or aircraft insurance, that's how it works. > Your next > call should be to the Insurance Commissioner's Office in your state. > It will > be located in the state capitol. Trust me, you will get your rebate > and your > insurance salesman will at the very least, get the fear of God put > into him. > > Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > > > Just wondering how many KR pilots insure their planes for just 6 > mos as > > opposed to a full year. Sky Smith charged me $ 1150 last year and > after I > > got the policy I called Scott and asked if I could get a refund if > I > > cancelled after 6 mos. He said no since the policy was already in > effect, > > that sounded a little fishy. I don't have cabin heat and I sublet > my > > hanger to someone else from Nov to May. If someone is getting > insurance > > for 6 mos I'd like to know what your paying, and from who. > Thanks! > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > > Only $9.95 per month! > > Visit www.juno.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:49:18 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: gleone Subject: Re: KR> Insurance Message-ID: <3DF7A4CE.8C1F2077@tritel.net> --------------3BA49D5E738518353EEF338C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wouldn't wait for renewal. I'd go after him now and shop for another agency. This guy is not on the up and up. When he says there's no refunding unused premium, he's not to be trusted at all. That's my personal opinion but one based on experience. Good luck. Gene Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > Thanks, I'll deal differently with this guy come renewal time. > > On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:08:00 -0700 gleone writes: > > He's lying to you. In insurance, you buy a car, let's call it a > > Rigatoni, > > and insure it for $2400 a year. After 3 months, you decide you > > can't afford > > the insurance much less the gas to run this thing so you buy a Ford > > Escort. > > Your annual premium for the Escort might be $300. Since $600 of > > premium has > > been spent on the Rigatoni, you have a rebate due of $1500. Whether > > you're > > talking auto insurance or aircraft insurance, that's how it works. > > Your next > > call should be to the Insurance Commissioner's Office in your state. > > It will > > be located in the state capitol. Trust me, you will get your rebate > > and your > > insurance salesman will at the very least, get the fear of God put > > into him. > > > > Kenneth L Wiltrout wrote: > > > > > Just wondering how many KR pilots insure their planes for just 6 > > mos as > > > opposed to a full year. Sky Smith charged me $ 1150 last year and > > after I > > > got the policy I called Scott and asked if I could get a refund if > > I > > > cancelled after 6 mos. He said no since the policy was already in > > effect, > > > that sounded a little fishy. I don't have cabin heat and I sublet > > my > > > hanger to someone else from Nov to May. If someone is getting > > insurance > > > for 6 mos I'd like to know what your paying, and from who. > > Thanks! > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > > > Only $9.95 per month! > > > Visit www.juno.com > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > > all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files --------------3BA49D5E738518353EEF338C-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:25:08 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org, "jim @ synergy design" From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> blankenship/ where is net mom? gear pics Message-ID: <20021212002508.63064.qmail@web21205.mail.yahoo.com> Jim, I'd like to look at the nosewheel ass'y. I might be interested. How much do you want for it? please send me a picture and price. Thanks, Rickey wWilson. --- "jim @ synergy design" wrote: > Don, grow up and let it go. Is it possible for you > to post a message about a kr without any mention of > the you know what? To whoever was interested in > my nose wheel assy a few weeks ago( from a > sidewinder) , I have the pics now, but I lost your > address. Jim Sporka, 2-s,corvair, almost > elevator > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:35:15 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert E. Moser" Cc: Tim Brown Subject: Corporation? WAS: Re: KR> lawyers Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20021211103045.00b3eb10@192.168.0.1> Hi Tim and KRNetters, I've been following the legal thread the past few days, and have not seen any commentary on the formation of corporations for the purpose of liability shielding. I've heard of this being done, e.g. a couple of guys get together and build a kit under a corporation, then later sell it. Does anyone have any commentary on this? What are the issues and pros/cons? Certainly there are some minimal fees in maintaining a corporation, but does it buy anything for you? Thanks! Robert Moser ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:20:23 -0600 To: "krnet" From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Headsets Message-ID: <006f01c2a17c$a5462710$806c1e41@Administration> ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C2A14A.5A8877A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bose® QuietComfortT Acoustic Noise Cancelling® headset Patented Bose technology dramatically reduces unwanted noise and produces excellent audio quality. Connects to virtually any audio source for use at home, in the office, while commuting or traveling. Only $299 This was in the PC Mall add. Dose anyone know if these would work in the aircraft communication environment? Is the impedence the same? Ron ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C2A14A.5A8877A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:17:56 -0800 To: From: "Buddy & Cheryl" Subject: Re: KR> Headsets Message-ID: <005a01c2a18d$116222e0$1e02a8c0@WorkGroup> ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C2A14A.02D28C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ron, Sport Aviation has a Bose headset on page 25 of their latest magazine, = the Dec 2002 issue. Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ron Eason=20 To: krnet=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:20 PM Subject: KR> Headsets Bose=AE QuietComfortT Acoustic Noise Cancelling=AE headset Patented Bose technology dramatically reduces unwanted noise and produces excellent audio quality. Connects to virtually any audio = source for use at home, in the office, while commuting or traveling. Only $299 This was in the PC Mall add. Dose anyone know if these would work in = the aircraft communication environment? Is the impedence the same? Ron ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C2A14A.02D28C80-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:28:18 -0800 To: From: Jim Morehead Subject: Re: KR> Headsets Message-ID: on 12/11/02 5:20 PM, Ron Eason at ron@jrl-engineering.com wrote: > Bose=AE QuietComfortT Acoustic Noise Cancelling=AE headset > Patented Bose technology dramatically reduces unwanted noise and > produces excellent audio quality. Connects to virtually any audio source = for > use at home, in the office, while commuting or traveling. > Only $299 >=20 >=20 > This was in the PC Mall add. Dose anyone know if these would work in the > aircraft communication environment? Is the impedence the same? >=20 > Ron >=20 Ron, Check "Radio Systems Technology Inc." The make a converter kit that fits in a 35 MM film can. Jim Weir is the head of RST Inc. He writes the "Aero Lectrics" articals in the Kit Plane Magazine. He is in Grass Valley, CA The last time I called him his phone Number was (800) 824-5978. He has = a web sight. www.rst-engr.com Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA kr2jm@d-web.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:13:43 +0000 To: ron@jrl-engineering.com From: "Richard Parker" Cc: krnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Headsets Message-ID: To answer your question, (seems on the krnet lately there are many responses and off topic conversations but no direct answers) they wont work well. I bought a pair as I was recently travelling multiple times to Japan and although they worked OK on a jet and around the house I dont think they are tuned around 250 hz which is where the aviation grade headsets seem to work around. (2500 rpm / 60) = rps X 6 (cylinders) = 250hz. I also occasionally got a feedback squeal out of one earcup. I've seen these type of noise reducing general use headsets for as low as $79 as noise canceling technology isnt new. For aviation you would be smarter to buy a cheap pair of aviation headsets with a mike for $150 and put the $169 Headsets Inc. 18 db noise cancelling circutry in them and have a much better set up that would allow your passengers to talk through the mike as well. Rich Parker Peterborough, NH richontheroad@hotmail.com >From: "Ron Eason" >Reply-To: "Ron Eason" >To: "krnet" <> >Subject: KR> Headsets >Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 19:20:23 -0600 > > Bose® QuietComfortT Acoustic Noise Cancelling® headset > Patented Bose technology dramatically reduces unwanted noise and >produces excellent audio quality. Connects to virtually any audio source >for >use at home, in the office, while commuting or traveling. > Only $299 > > >This was in the PC Mall add. Dose anyone know if these would work in the >aircraft communication environment? Is the impedence the same? > >Ron _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:15:30 -0700 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: rossy Subject: Re: KR> Headsets Message-ID: <3DF86FD2.68947631@attbi.com> Ron, Uhhh...no. I have a friend who has them. If you are at work and want to listen to MP3's at the office like my firend does then they work great. However, since they look a bit more like a set of expensive CD-ROM/Walkmen headphones you can imagine that they are not going to block attenuate as much noise as the $1000 Bose X aviation headset does, you would be better off paying $300 for a David-Clark 20-10 non attenuating set, and upgrading later to a noise canceling set. Ron Eason wrote: > > Bose® QuietComfortT Acoustic Noise Cancelling® headset > Patented Bose technology dramatically reduces unwanted noise and > produces excellent audio quality. Connects to virtually any audio source for > use at home, in the office, while commuting or traveling. > Only $299 > > This was in the PC Mall add. Dose anyone know if these would work in the > aircraft communication environment? Is the impedence the same? > > Ron ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 05:37:06 -0800 To: From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Headsets Message-Id: <200212120537.AA9634382@jrl-engineering.com> Thanks for the advice. Ron ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: rossy Reply-To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:15:30 -0700 >Ron, > Uhhh...no. > I have a friend who has them. If you are at work and >want to listen to MP3's at the office like my firend does >then they work great. However, since they look a bit >more like a set of expensive CD-ROM/Walkmen headphones you >can imagine that they are not going to block attenuate >as much noise as the $1000 Bose X aviation headset does, >you would be better off paying $300 for a David-Clark >20-10 non attenuating set, and upgrading later to a >noise canceling set. > > > >Ron Eason wrote: >> >> Bose=AE QuietComfortT Acoustic Noise Cancelling=AE headset >> Patented Bose technology dramatically reduces unwanted noise and >> produces excellent audio quality. Connects to virtually any audio source= for >> use at home, in the office, while commuting or traveling. >> Only $299 >> >> This was in the PC Mall add. Dose anyone know if these would work in th= e >> aircraft communication environment? Is the impedence the same? >> >> Ron > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > -- Ronald R. Eason Sr. Pres. & CEO, KCMO Office J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd. 816-468-4091, Kansas City, MO. Jim Eason V.P, 770-446-1291, Atlanta, Georgia Web Page: www.jrl-engineering.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:37:58 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Fuel pumps Message-ID: <165.17e2681c.2b294276@aol.com> --part1_165.17e2681c.2b294276_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Years ago I read that the Facet type of pump was not to be used as a primary pump in aircraft because during a failure, the flow of fuel was completely cut off. Some one talked of modifying the pump changing a check ball to allow for free flow in the off position. Perhaps a search of the archives can discover the original articles from years ago. I personally use a gravity header tank, with a facet type pump in each wing to lift the fuel to the header. AviationMech KR-2 N110LR 1984 to Present --part1_165.17e2681c.2b294276_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 20:43:47 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Type IV mag timing Message-ID: <176.12d1acc5.2b2943d3@aol.com> --part1_176.12d1acc5.2b2943d3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/10/2002 4:35:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, davmac@chipsnet.com writes: > Should the timing for a Slick 4016 mag be set to 25 degress or 28 degress > BTDC for a 2600cc Type IV VW? > Generally speaking should you can set the timing for the maximum advance that you want, unless the mag has an impulse coupler. In that case you must make sure that the coupler is released. I set my mag and distributer for a maximum of 28 deg. AviationMech KR-2 N110LR 1984 to Present --part1_176.12d1acc5.2b2943d3_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 21:08:56 -0600 To: "krnet" From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Gauges Message-ID: <001801c2a18b$cedb2670$806c1e41@Administration> ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2A159.84253F30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0015_01C2A159.84253F30" ------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C2A159.84253F30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.dolphingauges.com/=20 the above is a good resource for engine gauges and panel inserts. Check = them out. KRRon ------=_NextPart_001_0015_01C2A159.84253F30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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According to www.polyfi= ber.com, these are the outlets in Canada.
 
 
GOULET AlRCRAFT SUPPLY
59 Eagle Drive
Winni= peg, Manitoba
Canada R2R 1V4
204-783-8512
800-665-86= 62 (Canada only)
www.gouletaircraft.com

48 Airport Road
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada T5G 0W7
780-45= 2-4242

THE AERO MART
6790 Davand Dri= ve, Unit 7
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada L5T 2G5
905-565-073= 7 
 

DanRH@KR-Builder.org

See ya in Red Oak --- 2003,

Daniel R= =2E Heath - Lexington, SC

See our KR2 at: ht= tp://kr-builder.org  Click on the Pic.

See our EAA Chapte= r 242 at: http://WWW.EAA242.ORG

KR Purchasing Info at= : http://fly-kr.= com 

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Subject: Re: KR>= ; uv smooth prime.
 
Harold not sure but try Fiberglass Factory Outlet in Mis= sissauga. If they
don't know they may be ableto refer you. Let me know= what u find.
W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND
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Sent: T= uesday, December 10, 2002 11:16 AM
Subject: KR> uv smooth prime.

What companies in the Toronto Canada region are agents for uv sm= ooth prime.
Harold Woods. Orillia,ON.Can.
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--------------Boundary-00=_DGE0ENY1VA4000000000-- --------------Boundary-00=_CGE0JDU1VA4000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 08:29:09 -0500 To: From: "Audrey and Harold Woods" Cc: Subject: check valve. Message-ID: <008301c2a1e2$73e40780$03000004@baol.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C2A1B8.8AA1A920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you that are strugling with the gravity feed in parallel = with an electric fuel pump consider the following. A normal check valve = is spring loaded. It is the spring that defeats gravity feed. In the = plumbing trade there is a swing check valve. It could be positioned such = that the pressure from the electric pump closes it so that gravity flow = does not take place but when it is off , gravity lifts the seat, to = swing open and gravity flow then continues unhindered. Just a thought. Harold Woods. Orillia, ON.Can. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.426 / Virus Database: 239 - Release Date: 12/2/02 ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C2A1B8.8AA1A920-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************