From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 13 Feb 2003 12:31:15 -0000 Issue 632 Date: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:32 AM krnet Digest 13 Feb 2003 12:31:15 -0000 Issue 632 Topics (messages 15136 through 15165): KR-1 vs KR-2 and KR-2 vs Mustang II 15136 by: kleirfall.ecomail.org 15137 by: Robert X. Cringely 15139 by: Daren Cogdon Re: Sonic Boom 15138 by: WMartensJr.aol.com 15140 by: V. P. 15146 by: Brian Kraut Re: LOM inline engine 15141 by: Howcroft Re: KR2 parts for sale 15142 by: Ronevogt.aol.com 15143 by: Ron Eason 15145 by: Rick Wilson 15148 by: Dennis Witherspoon 15149 by: Timboyer2.wmconnect.com pitch sensitivity and taxi tests 15144 by: Brian Kraut 15157 by: Serge Vidal 15162 by: Dan Heath 15163 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout Building a KR-2S 15147 by: Mark Jones Re: KR friends 15150 by: Phillip Matheson More Down Under 15151 by: Frank Ross Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S 15152 by: Mark Langford 15154 by: Mark Jones 15155 by: Justin 15165 by: larry flesner oil cooler inlet 15153 by: Brian Kraut 15160 by: Bob Difficulty reading plans 15156 by: Justin Adhesives 15158 by: Phil Maley KR2 building time 15159 by: Aripo 15161 by: Dan Heath 15164 by: Dana Overall Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:10:15 -0700 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: kleirfall@ecomail.org Subject: KR-1 vs KR-2 and KR-2 vs Mustang II Message-ID: <1045087815.3e4ac6474515b@www.ecomail.org> I hate to bother you again, but I still am thinking about the right plane. I was wondering why the Kr-1 takes as long to build as the KR-2 or 2S? The Kr-1 should take less time to build since it is smaller. Is the KR-1 roomy enough for cross country flying? How does the KR-2S compare with Mustang II? What kind of G-forces can the KR-2 and 1 withstand? Thank you!!! Kris <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< This email comes to you via EcoMail! Swim over to http://www.ecocity.com and sign up for your *FREE* account ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:28:41 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Robert X. Cringely" Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 vs KR-2 and KR-2 vs Mustang II Message-Id: Dear Kris, The part count on a KR-1 is almost identical to a KR-2, which is why it takes as long to build. Think of the KR-1 and just a wider KR-2. The KR-1 is roomy enough for cross-country flying if you are small and you build it to be roomy. There is a lot of opportunity for personal expression here. On the other hand, most pilots find the KR to require such attention that really long cross-countries are tiring. I had a KR-1 and a Glasair in the same hangar for 23 years and while I took more flights in the KR, I hardly ever left California in it, while in the Glasair I flew as far as Europe. A KR-2S is somewhat smaller than a Mustang II, it is about 20 mph slower, but then it also has half the power. One is metal while the other is wood and fiberglass. They are very different planes. Most KR-2S drivers also like to point out that a Mustang II costs twice as much to build. In theory all KR's are aerobatic, though some are so heavy I'd hate to test that. Certainly I did sportsman level akro in my KR-1 and lived to tell about it. Bob >I hate to bother you again, but I still am thinking about the right plane. I >was wondering why the Kr-1 takes as long to build as the KR-2 or 2S? The Kr-1 >should take less time to build since it is smaller. Is the KR-1 roomy enough >for cross country flying? How does the KR-2S compare with Mustang II? What >kind of G-forces can the KR-2 and 1 withstand? >Thank you!!! >Kris > > > > ><>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< >This email comes to you via EcoMail! >Swim over to http://www.ecocity.com and sign up for your *FREE* account > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:54:41 +0000 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Daren Cogdon" Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 vs KR-2 and KR-2 vs Mustang II Message-ID: Personally, I would build a KR-1, but add a few 'mods' to make it a bit longer, give the tail fin a new shape, alter the hinge-line a little, make it a razorback version... new flat canopy (side-hinged), fit an inline if one coule be had (1800cc if not). Add a couple of dummy machine-guns, dummy cannons, dummy exhaust pipes and a lick of camouflage paint... Et voila - a KR-109! ;-) >From: kleirfall@ecomail.org >Reply-To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: KR> KR-1 vs KR-2 and KR-2 vs Mustang II Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 >15:10:15 -0700 > >I hate to bother you again, but I still am thinking about the right plane. >I >was wondering why the Kr-1 takes as long to build as the KR-2 or 2S? The >Kr-1 >should take less time to build since it is smaller. Is the KR-1 roomy >enough >for cross country flying? How does the KR-2S compare with Mustang II? >What >kind of G-forces can the KR-2 and 1 withstand? >Thank you!!! >Kris > > > > ><>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< >This email comes to you via EcoMail! >Swim over to http://www.ecocity.com and sign up for your *FREE* account > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:51:18 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: WMartensJr@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Sonic Boom Message-ID: <43.180d9d77.2b7c29e6@aol.com> --part1_43.180d9d77.2b7c29e6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat, Sometimes you don't even need to bust the sound barrier to make such a specatcular showing. Check this out: http://www.af.mil/photos/images/020712-O-9999S-001.jpg Somewhere I have a .mpeg file of an F-14 flying low along side a carrier as it breaks the barrier. Sound and air display is quite impressive. Walt In a message dated 2/9/2003 4:51:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, patrick36@usfamily.net writes: > You guys should check out this Hornet breaking the sound barrier. > > Pat Driscoll > > http://rense.com/general8/boom.htm --part1_43.180d9d77.2b7c29e6_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:05:04 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "V. P." Subject: RE: KR> Sonic Boom Message-id: That B-1 IS going super....???What do you mean by "Sometimes you don't even need to bust the sound barrier to make such a spectacular showing. " VP -----Original Message----- From: WMartensJr@aol.com [mailto:WMartensJr@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:51 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Sonic Boom Pat, Sometimes you don't even need to bust the sound barrier to make such a specatcular showing. Check this out: http://www.af.mil/photos/images/020712-O-9999S-001.jpg Somewhere I have a .mpeg file of an F-14 flying low along side a carrier as it breaks the barrier. Sound and air display is quite impressive. Walt In a message dated 2/9/2003 4:51:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, patrick36@usfamily.net writes: > You guys should check out this Hornet breaking the sound barrier. > > Pat Driscoll > > http://rense.com/general8/boom.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:38:47 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: Re: KR> Sonic Boom Message-ID: <3E4AF727.6090700@earthlink.net> --------------040606050001050002090408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went to college at Embry-Riddle and they had a big air show every year. The best part was always the pilots showing off the day or two after the show before they left. They knew that there was a whole university of air bums so they usually gave us a great show. One year an F-16 came over the campus breaking the sound barrier. He flew directly over me at about 100'. The cloud around him was pulsating as he approached and it looked like the plane was blowing up. Me and a few dozen other people hit the deck just before he got over us. I have never seen anything quite like that since it happened. I did hear that the pilot got in a lot of trouble, but it was one hell of a show. WMartensJr@aol.com wrote: >Pat, > > >Sometimes you don't even need to bust the sound barrier to make such a >specatcular showing. > >Check this out: > >http://www.af.mil/photos/images/020712-O-9999S-001.jpg > >Somewhere I have a .mpeg file of an F-14 flying low along side a carrier as >it breaks the barrier. Sound and air display is quite impressive. > > >Walt > >In a message dated 2/9/2003 4:51:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, >patrick36@usfamily.net writes: > > >>You guys should check out this Hornet breaking the sound barrier. >> >>Pat Driscoll >> >>http://rense.com/general8/boom.htm >> > > --------------040606050001050002090408-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:37:39 +1300 To: From: "Howcroft" Subject: Re: KR> LOM inline engine Message-ID: <000d01c2d2e7$9adc4380$49d91bca@Margaret> And thats not all Frank.Us guys down under have to tie our planes down to stop them falling into the sky.Getting them back to Earth can be a problem.Luckily because we hang from our feet we have a very good blood supply to the head and that makes us smarter! nigel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:27:24 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Ronevogt@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 parts for sale Message-ID: <19a.1093b6fe.2b7c406c@aol.com> --part1_19a.1093b6fe.2b7c406c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That'a a hell of a deal...for those Diehl skins. RV --part1_19a.1093b6fe.2b7c406c_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:16:56 -0600 To: From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 parts for sale Message-ID: <016501c2d2fd$998256d0$6501a8c0@Administration> I am interested in the forward deck. Could you email me details or jpg? Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: KR> KR2 parts for sale > Kr2 parts for sale; > > canopy frame $100 > forward deck $80 > Diehl nose gear $400 > Diehl wingskins $1000 > Riteangle AOA indicator $125 > Stub wing skins $225 > GPAC economy seat belt & shoulder harness $35 > Aero-trim aileron & rudder trim control system $350 > > Bob McDonough > waldokr2@aol.com > Gainesville, FL > Phone 352 379 3144 > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:31:55 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org, Ron Eason From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> KR2 parts for sale Message-ID: <20030213013155.41167.qmail@web21206.mail.yahoo.com> Ron, is the deihl nosegear complete with wheel and tire? Thanks, Rick Wilson. rwdw2002@yahoo.com --- Ron Eason wrote: > I am interested in the forward deck. Could you > email me details or jpg? > > Ron > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:13 PM > Subject: KR> KR2 parts for sale > > > > Kr2 parts for sale; > > > > canopy frame $100 > > forward deck $80 > > Diehl nose gear $400 > > Diehl wingskins $1000 > > Riteangle AOA indicator $125 > > Stub wing skins $225 > > GPAC economy seat belt & shoulder harness $35 > > Aero-trim aileron & rudder trim control system > $350 > > > > Bob McDonough > > waldokr2@aol.com > > Gainesville, FL > > Phone 352 379 3144 > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:00:14 -0800 To: From: "Dennis Witherspoon" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 parts for sale Message-ID: <000801c2d303$a7519720$7abbefd8@dennis> Hi, I think Im interested in the stub wing skins. Any Idea what the shipping would be to shedd Oregon 97377? Dennis Witherspoon -----Original Message----- From: Waldokr2@aol.com To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:14 PM Subject: KR> KR2 parts for sale >Kr2 parts for sale; > >canopy frame $100 >forward deck $80 >Diehl nose gear $400 >Diehl wingskins $1000 >Riteangle AOA indicator $125 >Stub wing skins $225 >GPAC economy seat belt & shoulder harness $35 >Aero-trim aileron & rudder trim control system $350 > >Bob McDonough >waldokr2@aol.com >Gainesville, FL >Phone 352 379 3144 > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:59:34 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Timboyer2@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 parts for sale Message-ID: <1ed.1bbd9ea.2b7c5606@wmconnect.com> --part1_1ed.1bbd9ea.2b7c5606_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob I interested in the wing skins Could you send a picture of them and would you ship the C O D.. Thanks Tim --part1_1ed.1bbd9ea.2b7c5606_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:30:36 -0500 To: krnet From: Brian Kraut Subject: pitch sensitivity and taxi tests Message-ID: <3E4AF53C.80201@earthlink.net> I have a question for the vetran KR pilots. If I get used to the pitch sensitivity of a tailwheel KR in taxi runs on the mains am I likely to not be surprised in the air or is the KR a much different animal off the runway? Obviously I have two more axes to worry about in the air, but they are the easy ones. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:47:22 +0200 To: , From: "Serge Vidal" Subject: RE: KR> pitch sensitivity and taxi tests Message-ID: <001e01c2d33d$0acfc6d0$e100a8c0@sergevidal12> No, if you get nice pitch control on ground, you should be pretty safe on approach. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: Brian Kraut [mailto:engalt@earthlink.net] Sent: 13 February 2003 03:31 To: krnet Subject: KR> pitch sensitivity and taxi tests I have a question for the vetran KR pilots. If I get used to the pitch sensitivity of a tailwheel KR in taxi runs on the mains am I likely to not be surprised in the air or is the KR a much different animal off the runway? Obviously I have two more axes to worry about in the air, but they are the easy ones. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 06:12:41 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> pitch sensitivity and taxi tests Message-Id: <3E4BA7D9.000007.01272@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_5H39WCW0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My opinion is that high speed taxi runs are a disaster waiting to happen.= =20 The transition from power on to power off is the most difficult. My firs= t accident was due to slow speed taxi runs which got the craft airborne, mu= ch to my surprise. There was not enough airspeed to control it and the retr= act gear broke. =0D =0D Once you are running down the runway with the tail full up, MY OPINION is that you are better off to keep on going. So MY ADVISE is don't do that untill you are ready to go.=0D =0D That is why I thought I would hold the wheels still with the brakes and t= ry slowly lifting the tail so I could get a feel for it. Of course there is danger in that also.=0D =0D Bottom line, IN MY OPINION, high speed taxi tests are for VERY good pilot= s with a lot of tail dragger time.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 05:28:47 PM=0D To: krnet=0D Subject: KR> pitch sensitivity and taxi tests=0D =0D I have a question for the vetran KR pilots.=0D =0D If I get used to the pitch sensitivity of a tailwheel KR in taxi runs on = =0D the mains am I likely to not be surprised in the air or is the KR a much = =0D different animal off the runway? Obviously I have two more axes to =0D worry about in the air, but they are the easy ones.=0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_5H39WCW0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:08:48 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> pitch sensitivity and taxi tests Message-ID: <20030213.070848.3612.0.klw1953@juno.com> I did 2 hrs worth of taxing at the Reading Airport before I flew 6399U off. I agree with Dan that going from full power to power off on the ground was a little hairy. I had no stick time at all prior to lift off in the S, and had no real problems other than the sensitive flight controls. I guess the handling characteristics are about as similar as an aircraft carrier and a jet ski.------------Good luck! On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 06:12:41 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) "Dan Heath" writes: > My opinion is that high speed taxi runs are a disaster waiting to > happen. > The transition from power on to power off is the most difficult. My > first > accident was due to slow speed taxi runs which got the craft > airborne, much > to my surprise. There was not enough airspeed to control it and the > retract > gear broke. > > Once you are running down the runway with the tail full up, MY > OPINION is > that you are better off to keep on going. So MY ADVISE is don't do > that > untill you are ready to go. > > That is why I thought I would hold the wheels still with the brakes > and try > slowly lifting the tail so I could get a feel for it. Of course > there is > danger in that also. > > Bottom line, IN MY OPINION, high speed taxi tests are for VERY good > pilots > with a lot of tail dragger time. > > N64KR > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > See you in Red Oak - 2003 > > See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > -------Original Message------- > > From: KRnet@mailinglists.org > Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 05:28:47 PM > To: krnet > Subject: KR> pitch sensitivity and taxi tests > > I have a question for the vetran KR pilots. > > If I get used to the pitch sensitivity of a tailwheel KR in taxi > runs on > the mains am I likely to not be surprised in the air or is the KR a > much > different animal off the runway? Obviously I have two more axes to > > worry about in the air, but they are the easy ones. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > . ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:46:15 -0600 To: "KR-Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Building a KR-2S Message-ID: <00d901c2d301$b266ba20$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C2D2CF.6790C7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting facts....especially for those asking how long it takes and = how much it cost. These facts are on my project and include the engine. Construction began March 21, 1998 Dollars spent: $9,884.41 Shipping charges: $786.04 Total components: 2137 pieces which includes every individual nut, = washer, bolt, feet of cable, wire...etc Hours contemplating: I lost count. Hours building: Can not count that high. Hours remaining: unforseeable So there you have it. I hope you find this interesting. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C2D2CF.6790C7C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:47:12 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> KR friends Message-ID: <013a01c2d30a$37d16a40$0100a8c0@barry> Frank Ross. and all netters Sorry for not getting back, but I have just checked 120 emails Thank you for your support. The fires are still going. somewhere around 1000 home lost. It still has not rained in the much needed areas. It will stop when there is no more wood to burn or it rains. The KR net is a very important line of communication. Thanks to all that make it the way is. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ross" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: KR> KR friends > I would like to offer a few words of support to our KR > friends in Venezuela and in Australia. Both areas have > been hit recently with terrible tragedies (serious > fires in Australia and on-going political and economic > strife in Venezuela) and I cannot forget how much > support we recieved from our friends all over the > world in Sept '91. > I'm sure all of us hope your difficulties are soon > over and you are not too badly affected by them. If > there is anything we can do to help, please let us > know. > Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:48:45 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: More Down Under Message-ID: <20030213024845.75458.qmail@web40903.mail.yahoo.com> --- Howcroft wrote: > And thats not all Frank.Us guys down under have to > tie our planes down to > stop them falling into the sky.Getting them back to > Earth can be a > problem.Luckily because we hang from our feet we > have a very good blood > supply to the head and that makes us smarter! > > nigel Nigel, I understand that kangaroos cannot really jump, they are just not as adept at getting back to earth as fast as the rest of you. Must be quite a place... Frank Ross in Texas where the tiny trees make us look tall... __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:13:16 -0600 To: "krnet" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S Message-ID: <001301c2d30d$da828e60$2402a8c0@800Athlon> NeHeads, We have a new KR2S flying. Austrian Christian Kogelmann's KR2S now has 7 hours on it. He has a brief flight report, and the finest wiring diagram you will EVER see for a KR2S on the web site at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ckogelmann/ . Congratulations! Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:43:25 -0600 To: , "Mark Langford" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S Message-ID: <010f01c2d312$10da28c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Sweet...very sweet. Congratulations Christian Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "krnet" Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:13 PM Subject: KR> Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S > NeHeads, > > We have a new KR2S flying. Austrian Christian Kogelmann's KR2S now has 7 > hours on it. He has a brief flight report, and the finest wiring diagram > you will EVER see for a KR2S on the web site at > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ckogelmann/ . Congratulations! > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:04:07 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S Message-ID: <000d01c2d30c$94ae3bb0$efd91818@computer> 130kts with that Type 1 is amazing! Good luck and safe flying. Notice any pitch sensitivty at all?? Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: ; "Mark Langford" Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:43 PM Subject: Re: KR> Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S > Sweet...very sweet. Congratulations Christian > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Langford" > To: "krnet" > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:13 PM > Subject: KR> Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S > > > > NeHeads, > > > > We have a new KR2S flying. Austrian Christian Kogelmann's KR2S now has 7 > > hours on it. He has a brief flight report, and the finest wiring diagram > > you will EVER see for a KR2S on the web site at > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ckogelmann/ . Congratulations! > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 06:23:28 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030213062328.0082c7f0@pop.midwest.net> Bill, Check this one out. The picture of the KR with the scenery in the background is worth the download. Larry ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >NeHeads, >We have a new KR2S flying. Austrian Christian Kogelmann's KR2S now has 7 >hours on it. He has a brief flight report, and the finest wiring diagram >you will EVER see for a KR2S on the web site at >http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ckogelmann/ . Congratulations! > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >mailto:langford@hiwaay.net >see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:26:53 -0500 To: krnet From: Brian Kraut Subject: oil cooler inlet Message-ID: <3E4B107D.1000106@earthlink.net> I have a stock oil cooler mounted on the bottom of my engine with fittings welded to it and lines running to the top of the engine. I will have a completely separate air inlet for the oil cooler. Any idea how many square inches of opening I should have? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:34:40 -0500 To: "KRnet \(E-mail\)" From: "Bob" Subject: RE: oil cooler inlet Message-ID: <002201c2d34b$8433f240$280c0b0a@bubba9> Netters, Brian Kraut wrote: "I will have a completely separate air inlet for the oil cooler. Any idea how many square inches of opening I should have?" I had the same questions regarding my oil cooler and turbo inter cooler and documented my decisions on my web site. The link is: http://flyboybob.com/kr2/derivation%20of%20cooling%20path.doc Regards. Bob Lee ______________________________ N52BL KR2 Suwanee, GA 30024 91% done only 51% to go! Phone/Fax: 770/844-7501 mailto:bob@flyboybob.com http://flyboybob.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:43:12 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: Difficulty reading plans Message-ID: <000e01c2d31a$705f4f20$efd91818@computer> ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2D2E8.1F8FAB30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am gettign ready to plot out my fuselage for installing bulkheads = etc... I am unsure how to get the measurements. on the plans the "top" = view. I guess you just drow the center line and divide the #'s in half?=20 Also any tips on putting in all the bulkheads etc??? Justin KR2S- Currently making the HS with the "new" airfoil ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2D2E8.1F8FAB30-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:21:17 +0800 To: "KRnet" From: "Phil Maley" Subject: Adhesives Message-ID: Hi all This is mainly for beginner KRnetters in Australia (like me). I had a chat with our local glass/epoxy supplier in Perth today and discovered that an Australian product is the clear favourite for construction of experimental aircraft down under. The product is "Techniglue" and you can find the details at http://www.atlcomposites.com/ . It is a thick gel type adhesive with excellent gap-filling properties. Fast and slow hardeners are available to tailor the pot life to your working conditions. I mention all this because I had thought T88 was about the only choice. Of course there are many other choices but I'm very pleased to find one manufactured here in Australia. For glass lay-ups the West System epoxies are preferred over here as they seem to be in the USA. ATL Composites make the West System epoxy under licence here in Australia. So, Aussies, don't buy resins from overseas when you can buy it locally and probably save a fortune in the process. Phil Maley Perth Australia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:08:38 +0100 To: "KRnet" From: "Aripo" Subject: KR2 building time Message-ID: <007801c2d348$1a925960$51b91997@aripo> ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C2D350.42B81580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi netters I' ve started my constructions in october 1998 from boat stage and spars = , now I am painting the plane. I hope to start flyng test these year ( summer ???). My KR2 is nearly from plans with these differences: Engine- Rotax 912 and new cowling Pulsar canopy =20 Belly air brake=20 Dihel undercarriage and wing tips Etc. etc. etc.etc.etc. NO premolded parts I work on my plane about 2 hours a day for 5/6 days a week. Here in Italy about 20 Kr2 are flyng or in constructions. Constrution time in my opinion is 5 years , depending on skills but with = constant work , is better to work one hour a day for five days than five = hour in one day ( my opinion ) . I know a KR 2S build as an ULM ( In Italy you can) in eight monts , = obviously full time. See my KR2 on www.negri.cjb.net not updated , updated version coming = soon. Franco Negri Italy I-KRFN ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C2D350.42B81580-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:42:51 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time Message-Id: <3E4BA0DB.000003.01272@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_F329G6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Franco,=0D =0D Your plane looks great from what you have documented on your site. I am anxious to see the updates. I didn't know that a Pulsar canopy would loo= k so good on a KR. I really like your stick.=0D =0D What kind of foam is that? It looks like styrofoam. You did a fantastic job making those parts. I think that pre-molded parts are overrated. Ju= st give me a good canopy bubble and the rest is easy.=0D =0D Where did you get your wheels and brakes? They look like they fit the Di= ehl gear much better than do the Matco that we are using.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Thursday, February 13, 2003 02:10:58 AM=0D To: KRnet=0D Subject: KR> KR2 building time=0D =0D Hi netters=0D I' ve started my constructions in october 1998 from boat stage and spars = , now I am painting the plane.=0D I hope to start flyng test these year ( summer ???).=0D My KR2 is nearly from plans with these differences:=0D Engine- Rotax 912 and new cowling=0D Pulsar canopy =0D Belly air brake =0D Dihel undercarriage and wing tips=0D Etc. etc. etc.etc.etc.=0D NO premolded parts=0D I work on my plane about 2 hours a day for 5/6 days a week.=0D Here in Italy about 20 Kr2 are flyng or in constructions.=0D Constrution time in my opinion is 5 years , depending on skills but with constant work , is better to work one hour a day for five days than five hour in one day ( my opinion ) .=0D I know a KR 2S build as an ULM ( In Italy you can) in eight monts , obviously full time.=0D =0D See my KR2 on www.negri.cjb.net not updated , updated version coming soon= =2E=0D =0D Franco Negri=0D Italy=0D I-KRFN --------------Boundary-00=_F329G6G0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:22:05 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time Message-ID: Just food for thought here, Tom Crawford built his Sun & Fun award winning KR2 in something like 16 months while working full time at a real job. He used prefab parts with electric MAC elevator trim, diehl gear, type 4 and nosegear. Dana Overall Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************