From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 16 Feb 2003 16:53:27 -0000 Issue 634 Date: Sunday, February 16, 2003 8:54 AM krnet Digest 16 Feb 2003 16:53:27 -0000 Issue 634 Topics (messages 15193 through 15220): Re: Adhesives 15193 by: Phillip Matheson 15197 by: Philip Maley Re: WARNING 15194 by: Brian Kraut Tail ? for Mark 15195 by: Justin 15199 by: Mark Langford 15201 by: Justin 15203 by: Mark Langford Re: Public Apology to Art Bruce 15196 by: Frank Ross AS 10 Moni 15198 by: Aripo Franco Negri's Plane 15200 by: Frank Ross Re: KR2 building time 15202 by: UlricMoh.aol.com 15204 by: Jim Sellars 15205 by: Edwin Blocher 15206 by: Frank Dungan 15215 by: UlricMoh.aol.com 15216 by: UlricMoh.aol.com Re: Credibilty Rating 15207 by: Phillip Matheson Re: KR2 parts for sale 15208 by: Phillip Matheson Re: KR2 building time/ Temp 15209 by: Phillip Matheson Hand held Strobe 15210 by: Phillip Matheson 15212 by: Justin ART BRUCE? 15211 by: David Hartz Re: Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S 15213 by: Christian Kogelmann Go fly 15214 by: David McKelvey 15217 by: Flymaca711689.aol.com 15218 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout Crooks on the Net 15219 by: Robert Stone IT FLIES!!! 15220 by: Steve Glover Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 14:39:48 +1100 To: , From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Adhesives Message-ID: <002201c2d3da$bc595ea0$0100a8c0@barry> Phil, Thanks for the info. The web page has some good info, but no prices. Did you get any prices? My T88 cost about $180. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:11:41 +0800 To: "KRnet" From: "Philip Maley" Subject: RE: KR> Adhesives Message-ID: Oops - I meant to send this to the list. Sorry for the duplicate Phil. I bought 1.5 litres of Techniglue today. It comprises 1.0 litres of resin and 500ml of hardener. Total price was AUD65.55. 750ml costs $40.44 and 6 litres is $173.39. All prices include GST. How much T88 did you get for $180? 1.5 litres is about 1.58 US quarts and the price is equivalent to USD39.06. That makes it about USD12.36 per pint. How does that compare with prices in USA? Regards Phil Maley -----Original Message----- From: Phillip Matheson [mailto:matheson@dodo.com.au] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:40 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org; phil@wotech.com.au Subject: Re: KR> Adhesives Phil, Thanks for the info. The web page has some good info, but no prices. Did you get any prices? My T88 cost about $180. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:05:04 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: Re: KR> WARNING Message-ID: <3E4C6AF0.5060509@earthlink.net> --------------030305020406090203020508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also know Art Bruce. He lives about a half hour from me and came here one weekend to look at my plane. He is an extreemely nice person. I gave him an electronics catalog and I had a 30 cent diode between two of the pages. He sent me an email to see if I needed it and I told him to just toss it because it wasn't worth a stamp to send it back, but he dropped it off at my house the next time he was in the area anyway. Frank Ross wrote: >I am NOT defending Bill Clapp, but I AM SPEAKING UP >FOR ART BRUCE. > >I know Art Bruce and if you are associating him with >Bill Clapp or any kind of mis-deeds, you are making a >big mistake. > >If Bill Clapp told you someone is his 'buddy' you're >going to BELIEVE that? > >You will want to be very careful what you say about >people on this net until you have some proof. > >Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX > >--- flykr@juno.com wrote: > >>Hello KR Flyers, >> >>I had various people emailing me and telling me how >>they got taken by the THIEF BILL CLAPP in Georgia, >>and asked me to update them if I find a phone # for >>him. Here is a phone # for him that works as of >>this morning 229-219-1072. >> >>THE CROOK BILL CRAPP said if you cant get him on his >>phone you can call his buddy ART BRUCE in Georgia at >>912-729-1616. >> >>Also, I found out info on his work, friends, etc >>that can be contacted about the CON ARTIST BILL >>CLAPP if needed. >> >>Safe flying, John >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day >http://shopping.yahoo.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > --------------030305020406090203020508-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 20:39:38 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: Tail ? for Mark Message-ID: <000801c2d3d2$51fbbb00$efd91818@computer> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2D3A0.073FB940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am using the same airfoil as you on the tail. my tail is 6' long = because thats how long the wood was. I have already shapped the elevator = and aft HS spar. It tapers to 5/8" thick as it should. My question is = this. The 2 templates for the HS are correct but the other 2 which are = smaller. Where do they go? If i put them on the very tip they do not go = along with the spars, spars are too small to fit correctly. Where they = fitcorrectly is where they should go. Maybe I am just not looking at = something properly? I am working on the HS. Justin ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2D3A0.073FB940-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 06:31:09 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Tail ? for Mark Message-ID: <001801c2d424$f4108630$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Justin wrote: >>My question is this. The 2 templates for the HS are correct but the other 2 which are smaller. Where do they go? If i put them on the very tip they do not go along with the spars, spars are too small to fit correctly. Where they fitcorrectly is where they should go. Maybe I am just not looking at something properly? I am working on the HS.<< If you actually LOOK at those "smaller" templates, you'll notice the words "VERTICAL STABILIZER" clearly written on each of them. That means they define the VERTICAL stabilizer, not the horizontal stabilizer. The vertical stabilizer is the one that sticks UP, rather than out to the sides. It's the one that has the rudder attached to it. I strongly encourage you stick to the plans and not use any of those airfoils on your airplane. You've already displayed a dangerous disregard for "safe" building practices, as well as failure to do required research for your planned modifications. I'd rather not have these empennage airfoils or the "new" main wing airfoils be blamed for something later on, that they had no responsibility for... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:00:09 -0600 To: , "Mark Langford" From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> Tail ? for Mark Message-ID: <000701c2d442$2baca520$efd91818@computer> No sir Mark. When i printed those out. I got two big templates of the HS and 2 smaller templates HS. I know what the vertical Stab templates are and are clearly marked. These are not those. If you would like me to scan these smalled templates in I will. Maybe do they include the orginal airfoil then the new one? Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:31 AM Subject: Re: KR> Tail ? for Mark > Justin wrote: > > >>My question is this. The 2 templates for the HS are correct but the other > 2 which are smaller. Where do they go? If i put them on the very tip they do > not go along with the spars, spars are too small to fit correctly. Where > they fitcorrectly is where they should go. Maybe I am just not looking at > something properly? I am working on the HS.<< > > If you actually LOOK at those "smaller" templates, you'll notice the words > "VERTICAL STABILIZER" clearly written on each of them. That means they > define the VERTICAL stabilizer, not the horizontal stabilizer. The vertical > stabilizer is the one that sticks UP, rather than out to the sides. It's > the one that has the rudder attached to it. > > I strongly encourage you stick to the plans and not use any of those > airfoils on your airplane. You've already displayed a dangerous disregard > for "safe" building practices, as well as failure to do required research > for your planned modifications. I'd rather not have these empennage > airfoils or the "new" main wing airfoils be blamed for something later on, > that they had no responsibility for... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:21:27 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Tail ? for Mark Message-ID: <001301c2d455$e3c9b130$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Justin wrote: > No sir Mark. When i printed those out. I got two big templates of the HS and > 2 smaller templates HS. I know what the vertical Stab templates are and are > clearly marked. These are not those. If you would like me to scan these > smalled templates in I will. Maybe do they include the orginal airfoil then > the new one? Oh, now I see. You didn't actually look at my webpage where I show how I made my horizontal stablizer did you? That was the whole point of these airfoils. Rather than tapering to a piece of 5/8" spruce at the tip, it tapers to a REAL AIRFOIL, a smaller version of the root template. It's shown at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/kht.html . I guess it wouldn't hurt to just go ahead and stick a piece of 5/8" spruce out there like the plans show. Most KRs flying were built exactly that way... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:52:33 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Re: KR> Public Apology to Art Bruce Message-ID: <20030214075233.49343.qmail@web40902.mail.yahoo.com> John, Thanks for the apology. I am real sorry that another KRnetter has had problems with Bill Clapp. I am lucky he didn't have anything I wanted because I'd probably have lost money to him too. "BUYER BEWARE" is nowhere more important than on the internet. I don't blame John a bit for being really Pixxed at Bill, and I can understand him wanting to find him and get his money back and let everyone know what happened. And I think the blame for bringing this to KRnet should lie squarley on the shoulders of Bill Clapp. Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX --- flykr@juno.com wrote: > Folks, > > I wanted to apologize to Art Bruce publicly, and > > Safe flying, John __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:05:26 +0100 To: "KRnet" From: "Aripo" Subject: AS 10 Moni Message-ID: <006b01c2d408$834ec680$28a91997@aripo> ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C2D410.98C35AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fran AS 10 ( Aerosviluppi AS10 ) is Moni motorglider made under license by = the Italian company Aerosviluppi of Samarate , close to Milan. These = factory in the 80s' made 21 kits , at least 10 have flown now only one = or two are still in fling conditions. The majors differences between Moni are: completely new wings riveted = with new spars and spoilers, stretched fuselage with roomy canopy and = engine about 100 mm. ( 4 inch.) forward. Engine were an KFM Iame 107 two stroke , not wery affordable , ( two = stroke ???!!!) so I' ve changed these engine with a Moto Guzzi V 50 = four stroke , affordable but heavy. Good plane but very difficult and sensitive in turbulence and ... very = very small , not for cross country. Now my AS 10 rest in a Moto Guzzi motorcycle museum in the factory at = Mandello del Lario. Wings weel are two trolley weels 60 mm. dia.( 2"- 1/2) with steel fork , = custom made, and soldered to a round steel rod af about 3/8 ( 10 mm.) = fixed under the wing with a lock pin. Franco =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01C2D410.98C35AA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:15:38 -0800 (PST) To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Franco Negri's Plane Message-ID: <20030214161538.31634.qmail@web40910.mail.yahoo.com> Absolutely beautiful, Franco. Leonardo could not have done better. Also, your web-site is very well done, I really appreciate the way in which you have incorporated English for those of us who do not speak Italian. Very considerate. Also a good way to learn a little Aviation Italiano. Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:13:58 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: UlricMoh@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time Message-ID: <1cc.2aa8f83.2b7e8be6@aol.com> --part1_1cc.2aa8f83.2b7e8be6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo, thanks for your posting. I=B4m Uli, near Berlin-town (EDCE) and try t= o=20 get help, how to build an KR2S as an UL. The problem seemes to be Vmin lower= =20 65 km/h. If you have an adress from the netter, who builts it as UL, please=20 send to me by email. Thanks, UliM --part1_1cc.2aa8f83.2b7e8be6_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:30:13 -0400 To: From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time Message-ID: <002e01c2d467$ed3d4210$0100a8c0@LAPTOP> Uli: My name is Jim and I'm talking to you from Moncton in Canada. Just for your interest, I'm in my office with a heavy sweater, 'cause it's -45C outside and blowing with a serious TukTiuktuk hurricane outside. I know hoe to get your plane to the UL status. Build very light. In Canada, as well as other ICAO countries the stall is in landing configuration or ground effect. Build it really light and I've seen solo, 45 mph and less. Maybe that can help. Best regards Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time Hallo, thanks for your posting. I´m Uli, near Berlin-town (EDCE) and try to get help, how to build an KR2S as an UL. The problem seemes to be Vmin lower 65 km/h. If you have an adress from the netter, who builts it as UL, please send to me by email. Thanks, UliM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:29:49 -0600 To: From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time Message-ID: <000501c2d470$353533e0$0201a8c0@computer> Jim and all, Just to rub it in a little. It is +18 C (65F) here in the Florida panhandle today. Instead of KR work I have been getting the boat ready for the water. I do still have the center stick assembly (RR) and the Teak Grip for sale. $110.00 and $65.00 respectivly postage paid in US except Hawaii and Alaska. Ed Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Sellars" To: Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:30 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time > Uli: > My name is Jim and I'm talking to you from Moncton in Canada. Just for > your interest, I'm in my office with a heavy sweater, 'cause it's -45C > outside and blowing with a serious TukTiuktuk hurricane outside. I know hoe > to get your plane to the UL status. Build very light. In Canada, as well > as other ICAO countries the stall is in landing configuration or ground > effect. Build it really light and I've seen solo, 45 mph and less. Maybe > that can help. > Best regards Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:13 PM > Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time > > > Hallo, thanks for your posting. I´m Uli, near Berlin-town (EDCE) and try to > get help, how to build an KR2S as an UL. The problem seemes to be Vmin lower > 65 km/h. If you have an adress from the netter, who builts it as UL, please > send to me by email. Thanks, UliM > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:23:53 -0600 To: From: "Frank Dungan" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time Message-Id: I'll go out side right now and soak up some sun for you... It's 75F in Oklahoma (there a reason I no longer live in the north) >>> jsellars@auracom.com 02/14/03 02:30PM >>> Uli: My name is Jim and I'm talking to you from Moncton in Canada. Just = for your interest, I'm in my office with a heavy sweater, 'cause it's -45C outside and blowing with a serious TukTiuktuk hurricane outside. I know = hoe to get your plane to the UL status. Build very light. In Canada, as well as other ICAO countries the stall is in landing configuration or ground effect. Build it really light and I've seen solo, 45 mph and less. Maybe that can help. Best regards Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time Hallo, thanks for your posting. I m Uli, near Berlin-town (EDCE) and try = to get help, how to build an KR2S as an UL. The problem seemes to be Vmin = lower 65 km/h. If you have an adress from the netter, who builts it as UL, = please send to me by email. Thanks, UliM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org=20 For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=20 See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=20 or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:55:31 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: UlricMoh@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time Message-ID: <18b.16189bd6.2b801153@aol.com> --part1_18b.16189bd6.2b801153_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,Jim, thanks for your answer. I wish you better weather. Here spring is in ligt beginning, more a feeling, light green shining trees, birds trying songs. Rand wrote me, that there is no oppurtunity to get the kr2s slow enough. Meanwhile I looked at the UL type MCr01, that has wing-grids, what could be an solution. Regards from UliM --part1_18b.16189bd6.2b801153_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:58:26 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: UlricMoh@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time Message-ID: <54.a365316.2b801202@aol.com> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:36:35 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Credibilty Rating Message-ID: <000101c2d49e$aaa11580$0100a8c0@barry> Rick wrote: Personally I have bought a few things through the KRnet from these fine people. David Moore = 4, Dan Heath = 4, > ??? York = 4. As Buyer, check me out with those people and see if you want to trust me to buy something from you. If I get a "0" posted by my name, then don't take a chance selling to me. If I have a "4" I might be worth the risk. ------------------------------------------------------------ Rick, Thank you. What a simple idea. This would be well worth discussing. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: RE: KR> Public Apology to Art Bruce > To the wonderful ladies and gentlemen of the KRnet. > > I have been a reading member of the KRnet for about five years or so. Although I am not a a builder from scratch, I do have need to rebuild and maintain my KR2, "The Little Beast." I have watched many gifted builders give of their time to the KRnet so that people such as I could have an opportunity to enjoy this neat little bird safely. > > I think we have a net mom issue with the flykr@juno vs Bill Clapp and all. I for one am nauseated with all of the loose name calling. I am sorry that flykr@juno was cheated out of his $1000 or so. I know that hurts. But what hurts just as much is watching flykr@juno take space, time. and the energy from the dedicated builders who have given him much more than $1000 of good advice, and all the while totally ignoring the benefits of this wonderful group of builders. > > I think it is time to try to resolve matters such as this with a little more class and ultimately a lot more effectiveness. I would suggest that we have a rating system for people who sell over the KRnet which would give us an idea of how trustworthy a buyer or seller is before the deal is made. I would rather see "so and so seller" rated as a 0 or 1 2 3 or 4 and be done with it than to keep reading trash talk like that of flykr@juno. I know it is impossible to make everyone happy with this type of response, but I have known for quite a while, through many e-mails that flykr@juno thinks Bill Clapp is a thief. So let Bill have a credibility rating of "0" and be done with it. The list could be updated on a regular basis, and anyone who buys or sells on the KRnet could be rated. Personally I have bought a few things through the KRnet from these fine people. David Moore = 4, Dan Heath = 4, > ??? York = 4. As Buyer, check me out with those people and see if you want to trust me to buy something from you. If I get a "0" posted by my name, then don't take a chance selling to me. If I have a "4" I might be worth the risk. > > Rick Collins N886KR "The Little Beast" > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:48:01 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 parts for sale Message-ID: <000201c2d49e$ac000940$0100a8c0@barry> AviationMech@aol.com I've have read many of your posts, not one of them seem to have a name. Do you have a name? I think we all should put our names to your posts. Just my opinion Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:48 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR2 parts for sale > In a message dated 2/12/2003 3:14:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Waldokr2@aol.com writes: > > > Diehl wingskins $1000 > > > > I'm interested, are they still in the crate. Will you ship at that price? > AviationMech > KR-2 N110LR > 1984 to Present > www.members.aol.com:/aviationmech > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:25:51 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 building time/ Temp Message-ID: <004101c2d4a1$f2756c00$0100a8c0@barry> Jim You could be in Australia. It has been +40c and up to 45c. but just now at 1425 its about 28c. BEAUTIFUL. Keep warm Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 16:24:35 +1100 To: "krnet listing" From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Hand held Strobe Message-ID: <009601c2d4b2$8ad24b20$0100a8c0@barry> ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C2D50E.BAE31D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I found this strobe, could some clever dick modify to use on our Kr's http://www.prosartech.com/cpoint20/framesetcategory14605.htm Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01C2D50E.BAE31D60-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 23:36:54 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> Hand held Strobe Message-ID: <000f01c2d4b4$4179fa70$ed7ba8c0@computer> Even if you did wire this thing up in the KR it woudl be flashing too fast dont you think. Ever second it flashes. It would be alittle blinding but defentually get your traffics attention. Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "krnet listing" Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:24 PM Subject: KR> Hand held Strobe I found this strobe, could some clever dick modify to use on our Kr's http://www.prosartech.com/cpoint20/framesetcategory14605.htm Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 22:25:05 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: David Hartz Subject: KR>ART BRUCE? Message-ID: <20030215062505.48810.qmail@web41301.mail.yahoo.com> TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN! I WOULD MYSELF HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYONE ALIGNING ART WITH TROUBLE!HE SHOWED PATIENTS WITH ME AND I FEEL HE IS ABOVE REPROACH. DAVE --- Frank Ross wrote: > John, > Thanks for the apology. > I am real sorry that another KRnetter has had > problems > with Bill Clapp. I am lucky he didn't have anything > I > wanted because I'd probably have lost money to him > too. > "BUYER BEWARE" is nowhere more important than on the > internet. > I don't blame John a bit for being really Pixxed at > Bill, and I can understand him wanting to find him > and > get his money back and let everyone know what > happened. > And I think the blame for bringing this to KRnet > should lie squarley on the shoulders of Bill Clapp. > Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX > > --- flykr@juno.com wrote: > > Folks, > > > > I wanted to apologize to Art Bruce publicly, and > > > > Safe flying, John > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:41:21 +0100 To: From: "Christian Kogelmann" Subject: Re: KR> Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S Message-ID: <012601c2d500$4faf4cc0$561c2e3e@aptivacomputer> Justin, and the others who looked at the "new" plane: the whole airplane is very sensitive. It is like driving a sports-car, all the controls are very direct but balanced. The airforce pilot who did the second flight was impressed too. the 130kts are with 3000 RPM, so I expect a little higher speed once we get to 3200 or 3300. The Speed indication was verified with another airplane at 100 knots and the KR indicated just under 100kts. I still have high Cyl Head Temps at climb out. The current climb speed we using is 90kts (to keep cool). Engine baffles and proper sealing is more important than I thought. After the 9 years building (first time builder) and the countless hours spend building I am extremly pleased with the outcome. I am glad that the air force friend did the first flights and is offering his services to introduce me to the airplane. I do have about 80 hrs in different airplanes but the KR is another class, I guess I will spend more time with my friend before I take the KR solo... Fly safely Chris OE-VPD ----- Original Message ----- From: Justin To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:04 AM Subject: Re: KR> Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S > 130kts with that Type 1 is amazing! Good luck and safe flying. Notice any > pitch sensitivty at all?? > > Justin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: ; "Mark Langford" > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:43 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S > > > > Sweet...very sweet. Congratulations Christian > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Langford" > > To: "krnet" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:13 PM > > Subject: KR> Christian Kogelmann's new KR2S > > > > > > > NeHeads, > > > > > > We have a new KR2S flying. Austrian Christian Kogelmann's KR2S now has > 7 > > > hours on it. He has a brief flight report, and the finest wiring > diagram > > > you will EVER see for a KR2S on the web site at > > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/ckogelmann/ . Congratulations! > > > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 11:45:43 -0600 To: From: "David McKelvey" Subject: Go fly Message-ID: Netters, I got to thinking the other day (almost hurt myself) but in light of current world affairs, those of us who have something that flies may want to go fly it while they can. Especially those who live in countries that have been singled out as possible terrorist targets, US, UK, parts of the Middle East just to name a few. London has already closed some airport terminals while others are patroled with tanks and military personel. Think what you want about the prospect of war but remember Sept 12, 2001 when airspace was closed for quite some time. Having said this, please don't rush an aircraft into the air, this is only for those who have something ready for flight. Just a thought. Blue skies, Dave McKelvey Grapevine TX ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:00:48 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Go fly Message-ID: <1d0.2c8c2b4.2b8020a0@aol.com> --part1_1d0.2c8c2b4.2b8020a0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here in Washington we have lost more airspace tfr is 30 miles now this is very pain full to the flyers here but we have to do are part and not brake the rules or the govt might take more. if you have a transponder your all right but you have to file flight plan be searched apone landing not much fun for airports that use to be uncontroled one being the oldest in the usa college park. mac n1055a --part1_1d0.2c8c2b4.2b8020a0_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:58:15 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> Go fly Message-ID: <20030215.185816.2876.0.klw1953@juno.com> Hi again, I was just wondering what it would take to fly into College Park. Last year after 9/11 they denied me. I want to take the Metro into the Smithsonion.-------------Thanks On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:00:48 EST Flymaca711689@aol.com writes: > here in Washington we have lost more airspace tfr is 30 miles now > this is > very pain full to the flyers here but we have to do are part and not > brake > the rules or the govt might take more. if you have a transponder > your all > right but you have to file flight plan be searched apone landing not > much fun > for airports that use to be uncontroled one being the oldest in the > usa > college park. > > > > > > > mac n1055a > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 19:21:17 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Crooks on the Net Message-ID: <001901c2d559$b521ebe0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2D527.69E8CAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, or I should say Lawyers who are builders and on this net, is = there not something that can be done when one of the people on this net = cheat another member. Being able to buy or sell aviation related items via the net is a = good and very desirable thing for all members but not at the risk of = being cheated so my question is, is there any way a crook can be brought = to justice. If so please provide us with your legal know how so we can = put a stop to any and all cheating. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2D527.69E8CAE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 08:54:04 -0800 To: From: "Steve Glover" Subject: IT FLIES!!! Message-ID: <001701c2d5dc$039d0a20$c18afea9@IntelliSpec> ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2D598.F54EE990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, N 902G finally took a 35 minute flight on Saturday at the capable = hands of Richard Shirley. The CHT problem I thought I had was really = just a combination of probes and long runs on the ground. Everything = was in the green and Richard said, "It just didn't want to come down" = GPS top speed without wheel pants and a few other items to clean it up = was 149 MPH. My trim tab control wire became disconnected in flight but didn't create = any problems, thankfully. The engine apparently ran a bit rough a full = power so we will try to figure that out before the next flight. Richard = thinks I should be able to get another 2 - 400 RPM's once the roughness = is corrected. Overall, a great first flight and the plane is stable.... Steve Glover Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca. n925sg@earthlink.net ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2D598.F54EE990-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************