From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 18 Feb 2003 01:01:09 -0000 Issue 635 Date: Monday, February 17, 2003 5:02 PM krnet Digest 18 Feb 2003 01:01:09 -0000 Issue 635 Topics (messages 15221 through 15245): Re: IT FLIES!!! 15221 by: jim . synergy design 15222 by: Ronevogt.aol.com 15224 by: kevin 15229 by: Toney Roberts bigger tail section 15223 by: Justin 15226 by: jim . synergy design 15233 by: Justin 15234 by: Rick Wilson 15236 by: kevin Re: KR2 parts for sale 15225 by: The Waldrens Buying and Selling 15227 by: Robert Stone Re:Escrow Services 15228 by: Ross Youngblood 15239 by: Robert Stone 15241 by: Edwin Blocher 15242 by: Tim Brown 15243 by: Robert Stone Australian KR2s For Sale 15230 by: Phillip Matheson Re: Tax Time 15231 by: Lee removal of elevator 15232 by: Lee Kogelmann/wiringKR2S 15235 by: Louis Staalberg Re: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis 15237 by: David Packwood 15240 by: Ron Freiberger Re: GO FLY 15238 by: David Packwood Instrument panel labels 15244 by: JIM VANCE 15245 by: AviationMech.aol.com Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:15:48 -0800 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: Re: KR> IT FLIES!!! Message-ID: <000c01c2d5e7$6f88e780$0101a8c0@pavilion> Congratulations on a bouncing new baby airplane! It gives me incentive to kick my project back in gear. Jim Sporka ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glover" To: Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 8:54 AM Subject: KR> IT FLIES!!! Well, N 902G finally took a 35 minute flight on Saturday at the capable hands of Richard Shirley. The CHT problem I thought I had was really just a combination of probes and long runs on the ground. Everything was in the green and Richard said, "It just didn't want to come down" GPS top speed without wheel pants and a few other items to clean it up was 149 MPH. My trim tab control wire became disconnected in flight but didn't create any problems, thankfully. The engine apparently ran a bit rough a full power so we will try to figure that out before the next flight. Richard thinks I should be able to get another 2 - 400 RPM's once the roughness is corrected. Overall, a great first flight and the plane is stable.... Steve Glover Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca. n925sg@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:34:26 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Ronevogt@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> IT FLIES!!! Message-ID: --part1_ae.391eefb1.2b8125a2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It must be a stealth KR. RV --part1_ae.391eefb1.2b8125a2_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:10:49 -0600 To: From: "kevin" Subject: Re: KR> IT FLIES!!! Message-ID: <000801c2d5ef$1e73c9c0$b9943841@hppav> Congratulations! Great job! Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Glover" To: Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: KR> IT FLIES!!! Well, N 902G finally took a 35 minute flight on Saturday at the capable hands of Richard Shirley. The CHT problem I thought I had was really just a combination of probes and long runs on the ground. Everything was in the green and Richard said, "It just didn't want to come down" GPS top speed without wheel pants and a few other items to clean it up was 149 MPH. My trim tab control wire became disconnected in flight but didn't create any problems, thankfully. The engine apparently ran a bit rough a full power so we will try to figure that out before the next flight. Richard thinks I should be able to get another 2 - 400 RPM's once the roughness is corrected. Overall, a great first flight and the plane is stable.... Steve Glover Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca. n925sg@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:24:55 -0600 To: From: "Toney Roberts" Subject: Re: KR> IT FLIES!!! Message-ID: <001f01c2d62b$c32c66c0$1ec3a83f@com> Congratulations! ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Glover To: Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: KR> IT FLIES!!! Well, N 902G finally took a 35 minute flight on Saturday at the capable hands of Richard Shirley. The CHT problem I thought I had was really just a combination of probes and long runs on the ground. Everything was in the green and Richard said, "It just didn't want to come down" GPS top speed without wheel pants and a few other items to clean it up was 149 MPH. My trim tab control wire became disconnected in flight but didn't create any problems, thankfully. The engine apparently ran a bit rough a full power so we will try to figure that out before the next flight. Richard thinks I should be able to get another 2 - 400 RPM's once the roughness is corrected. Overall, a great first flight and the plane is stable.... Steve Glover Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca. n925sg@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:46:07 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: bigger tail section Message-ID: <003001c2d5eb$b0db5430$ed7ba8c0@computer> ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2D5B9.60165EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark and others who know alot about the KR's with their sensitivity. I = am strongly consitering making my HS on my KR a 8' with the "new" = airfoil. Simply because I was running off some #'s while at my hanger. = Airplanes tails are usualy 1/2 the length of the airplane or 60% of the = actual fuselage. Everyone talks about making the fuselage longer and making the HS = bigger but what about the VS? I havent read anything about making that = bigger. Is there any problems with how sensitive the rudder is in the = KR? Off subject but isnt the KR the same size inside as a C150? ALSO I = am going through paperwork on getting ownership of a C150 for parts. I = would be selling alot of this airplane if people are intrested, One item = maybe including the O-200 (want my corvair). Justin ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2D5B9.60165EA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 13:11:00 -0800 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: Re: KR> bigger tail section Message-ID: <000c01c2d5ff$e91f13e0$0101a8c0@pavilion> Justin, If the H.S is too big in relation to the V.S. it may block the airflow to the rudder in a spin, reducing or eliminating rudder/V.S effectiveness. My H.S. is 7' plus 2" per side for end fairing/balance weights. I made my elevator slightly less in chord length to keep the elevator area the same. My rudder and V.S is 6" taller than plans, to keep proportions approx. the same. Your results may vary. Hope this helps, Jim Sporka ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin" To: Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: KR> bigger tail section Mark and others who know alot about the KR's with their sensitivity. I am strongly consitering making my HS on my KR a 8' with the "new" airfoil. Simply because I was running off some #'s while at my hanger. Airplanes tails are usualy 1/2 the length of the airplane or 60% of the actual fuselage. Everyone talks about making the fuselage longer and making the HS bigger but what about the VS? I havent read anything about making that bigger. Is there any problems with how sensitive the rudder is in the KR? Off subject but isnt the KR the same size inside as a C150? ALSO I am going through paperwork on getting ownership of a C150 for parts. I would be selling alot of this airplane if people are intrested, One item maybe including the O-200 (want my corvair). Justin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:11:31 -0600 To: , "jim @ synergy design" From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> bigger tail section Message-ID: <001001c2d64b$6eeaad40$ed7ba8c0@computer> Mark, What do you suggest as a good HS size using the New airfoil. The material is 8' long or 6' long. Can always cut down to size. You added 1' which makes it a 7' HS. Do you feel that is the sweet #? Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim @ synergy design" To: Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:11 PM Subject: Re: KR> bigger tail section > Justin, If the H.S is too big in relation to the V.S. it may block the > airflow to the rudder in a spin, reducing or eliminating rudder/V.S > effectiveness. My H.S. is 7' plus 2" per side for end fairing/balance > weights. I made my elevator slightly less in chord length to keep the > elevator area the same. My rudder and V.S is 6" taller than plans, to keep > proportions approx. the same. Your results may vary. Hope this helps, > Jim Sporka > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:46 AM > Subject: KR> bigger tail section > > > Mark and others who know alot about the KR's with their sensitivity. I am > strongly consitering making my HS on my KR a 8' with the "new" airfoil. > Simply because I was running off some #'s while at my hanger. Airplanes > tails are usualy 1/2 the length of the airplane or 60% of the actual > fuselage. > > Everyone talks about making the fuselage longer and making the HS bigger > but what about the VS? I havent read anything about making that bigger. Is > there any problems with how sensitive the rudder is in the KR? > > Off subject but isnt the KR the same size inside as a C150? ALSO I am > going through paperwork on getting ownership of a C150 for parts. I would be > selling alot of this airplane if people are intrested, One item maybe > including the O-200 (want my corvair). > > Justin > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 08:23:40 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> bigger tail section Message-ID: <20030217162340.18927.qmail@web21201.mail.yahoo.com> Justin, So far it seems you want to change almost every part of the airplane you work on. Why not build to the plans as they are proven? Like myself, you don't seem to be an engineer, so the best thing to do would be to stick with the plans and if you want to add personal changes do so where it is not structural such as the instrument panel, canopy, etc. This is just my opinion, Rick Wilson. --- Justin wrote: > Mark, > What do you suggest as a good HS size using the > New airfoil. The > material is 8' long or 6' long. Can always cut down > to size. You added 1' > which makes it a 7' HS. Do you feel that is the > sweet #? > > Justin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jim @ synergy design" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:11 PM > Subject: Re: KR> bigger tail section > > > > Justin, If the H.S is too big in relation to the > V.S. it may block the > > airflow to the rudder in a spin, reducing or > eliminating rudder/V.S > > effectiveness. My H.S. is 7' plus 2" per side > for end fairing/balance > > weights. I made my elevator slightly less in chord > length to keep the > > elevator area the same. My rudder and V.S is 6" > taller than plans, to > keep > > proportions approx. the same. Your results may > vary. Hope this helps, > > Jim Sporka > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Justin" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:46 AM > > Subject: KR> bigger tail section > > > > > > Mark and others who know alot about the KR's with > their sensitivity. I am > > strongly consitering making my HS on my KR a 8' > with the "new" airfoil. > > Simply because I was running off some #'s while at > my hanger. Airplanes > > tails are usualy 1/2 the length of the airplane or > 60% of the actual > > fuselage. > > > > Everyone talks about making the fuselage > longer and making the HS > bigger > > but what about the VS? I havent read anything > about making that bigger. Is > > there any problems with how sensitive the rudder > is in the KR? > > > > Off subject but isnt the KR the same size > inside as a C150? ALSO I am > > going through paperwork on getting ownership of a > C150 for parts. I would > be > > selling alot of this airplane if people are > intrested, One item maybe > > including the O-200 (want my corvair). > > > > Justin > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org > , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:06:00 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Kevin Subject: Re: Re: KR> bigger tail section Message-ID: <1225586.1045501560072.JavaMail.nobody@gonzo.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Justin, Post photos of your work. Kevin. -------Original Message------- From: Justin Sent: 02/17/03 01:11 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org, "jim @ synergy design" Subject: Re: KR> bigger tail section > > Mark, What do you suggest as a good HS size using the New airfoil. The material is 8' long or 6' long. Can always cut down to size. You added 1' which makes it a 7' HS. Do you feel that is the sweet #? Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim @ synergy design" To: Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:11 PM Subject: Re: KR> bigger tail section > Justin, If the H.S is too big in relation to the V.S. it may block the > airflow to the rudder in a spin, reducing or eliminating rudder/V.S > effectiveness. My H.S. is 7' plus 2" per side for end fairing/balance > weights. I made my elevator slightly less in chord length to keep the > elevator area the same. My rudder and V.S is 6" taller than plans, to keep > proportions approx. the same. Your results may vary. Hope this helps, > Jim Sporka > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:46 AM > Subject: KR> bigger tail section > > > Mark and others who know alot about the KR's with their sensitivity. I am > strongly consitering making my HS on my KR a 8' with the "new" airfoil. > Simply because I was running off some #'s while at my hanger. Airplanes > tails are usualy 1/2 the length of the airplane or 60% of the actual > fuselage. > > Everyone talks about making the fuselage longer and making the HS bigger > but what about the VS? I havent read anything about making that bigger. Is > there any problems with how sensitive the rudder is in the KR? > > Off subject but isnt the KR the same size inside as a C150? ALSO I am > going through paperwork on getting ownership of a C150 for parts. I would be > selling alot of this airplane if people are intrested, One item maybe > including the O-200 (want my corvair). > > Justin > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 11:13:30 -0800 To: From: "The Waldrens" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 parts for sale Message-ID: <001d01c2d5ef$82bfc0a0$90f0fea9@holly---paden-s> Bob, Hi, I just called you from California and spoke to you about purchasing the canopy frame and the forward deck. The price sounds good if they are in good shape. The shipping cost doesn't matter to me. The savings of buying these from you over R.R. will more than off-set the cost, besides, I am in no hurry. We can put them on the slow boat from China and save a buck. I want to buy these items, so if those other offers fall through, e-mail me back or give me a call and I will put a check or money order in the mail (which ever you prefer). Thanks, Paden Waldren (530)333-4008 -----Original Message----- From: Waldokr2@aol.com To: krnet@mailinglists.org Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 12:14 PM Subject: KR> KR2 parts for sale >Kr2 parts for sale; > >canopy frame $100 >forward deck $80 >Diehl nose gear $400 >Diehl wingskins $1000 >Riteangle AOA indicator $125 >Stub wing skins $225 >GPAC economy seat belt & shoulder harness $35 >Aero-trim aileron & rudder trim control system $350 > >Bob McDonough >waldokr2@aol.com >Gainesville, FL >Phone 352 379 3144 > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:23:55 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Buying and Selling Message-ID: <001201c2d623$401f7cc0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2D5F0.F2256700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Netters, As most of you who read the posts on this net on a daily basis know = of the message I sent out asking any member who is a lawyer to advise of = a safe way to buy or sell and not be cheated by some of our members who = are prone to cheat if they can and you all know who I am talking about. = I got a response from a lawyer by the name of Tim Brown who not = only suggested a way to insure that sellers get paid and that buyers = receive what they paid for. Tim is willing to act as a third party or = escrow office. Any buyers or sellers who are interested in using this = valuable service offered by a lawyer, Net member, and KR builder please = contact Tim. His e-mail address is: timwbrown@yahoo.com Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2D5F0.F2256700-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:58:30 -0800 To: "KRNet" , KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re:Escrow Services Message-Id: The lawyer you mentioned might be great... however E-bay already offers a proven escrow service that you can request sellers to use when you buy or sell items. It is mainly set up for sellers, but I think you can use it if you are a buyer. There is a fee for the service. -- Ross 2/16/2003 5:23:55 PM, "Robert Stone" wrote: Ross Youngblood http://N541RY.com mailto:rossy65@attbi.com (Home) mailto:ross_youngblood@credence.com (Work) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:18:16 -0600 To: , From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services Message-ID: <000f01c2d6b9$567e3240$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Ross, When the lawyer Tim said he would be willing to act as an escrow office there was no mention of a fee. I don't know if he will require one or not. I just figured that any sellers or buyers could contact him and use or not use his service. Bob Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Youngblood" To: "KRNet" ; Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: KR> Re:Escrow Services > The lawyer you mentioned might be great... however E-bay > already offers a proven escrow service that you can request > sellers to use when you buy or sell items. It is mainly set > up for sellers, but I think you can use it if you are a buyer. > There is a fee for the service. > -- Ross > > 2/16/2003 5:23:55 PM, "Robert Stone" wrote: > > Ross Youngblood > http://N541RY.com > mailto:rossy65@attbi.com (Home) > mailto:ross_youngblood@credence.com (Work) > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:01:02 -0600 To: From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services Message-ID: <003201c2d6d0$104b30e0$0201a8c0@computer> Tim Brown is a KR guy and on the KR Net. I'd sure rather pay him a fee than E-Bay. My gut feeling is that for the KR Net guys his fee would little to nothing. How about it Tim? Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Stone" To: ; Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:18 PM Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services > Ross, > When the lawyer Tim said he would be willing to act as an escrow office > there was no mention of a fee. I don't know if he will require one or not. > I just figured that any sellers or buyers could contact him and use or not > use his service. > > Bob Stone > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross Youngblood" > To: "KRNet" ; > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 7:58 PM > Subject: KR> Re:Escrow Services > > > > The lawyer you mentioned might be great... however E-bay > > already offers a proven escrow service that you can request > > sellers to use when you buy or sell items. It is mainly set > > up for sellers, but I think you can use it if you are a buyer. > > There is a fee for the service. > > -- Ross > > > > 2/16/2003 5:23:55 PM, "Robert Stone" wrote: > > > > Ross Youngblood > > http://N541RY.com > > mailto:rossy65@attbi.com (Home) > > mailto:ross_youngblood@credence.com (Work) > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:29:23 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Tim Brown Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services Message-ID: <20030217222923.59597.qmail@web40903.mail.yahoo.com> Ok I'll jump in now. My thought of how this would work is as follows (and I'm open to ideas) Buyer and seller both contact me with brief buyer seller details. Buyer sends me a check for the purchase amount plus something like $2.00 to cover postage and handling. I deposit the check into my checking account and advise the seller. Absent hearing from me that the check bounced, seller sends to buyer ten days after my deposit of buyer's check. This ten day period should be plenty of time for me to learn if the check is no good. Buyer notifies me when item arrives and I send my personal check to seller. I only do what mutually seller and buyer tell me to do. If buyer is unhappy with the merchandise, buyer returns it to seller at his expense and I return buyer's purchase price. If there is a squabble, I hold onto the money until the squabble is worked out. Parties would have to do a reply to my instructions agreeing to this procedure or some other procedure that they agree upon. I would, of course, assume to liability for anything other than that set forth in the agreement. OK...getting to legaleze now so I'll stop. Yes, this may take close to a month to consummate but everyone knows for sure that the item arrived and the money will, too. Anyone wanting to use this process merely shoots me an e-mail off the net and all subsequent e-mails are off the net. Ok...I'm done. Tim Lake Arrowhead, California timwbrown@yahoo.com --- Edwin Blocher wrote: > Tim Brown is a KR guy and on the KR Net. I'd > sure rather pay him a fee than > E-Bay. My gut feeling is that for the KR Net > guys his fee would little to > nothing. How about it Tim? > Ed Blocher > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:52:52 -0600 To: From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services Message-ID: <000901c2d6d7$4dbaddc0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Tim, Your two dollar fee for mailing/etc is like insurance against being cheated and it's the cheapest insurance I ever heard of. A friend of mine kept locking himself out of his car and had to pay Pop-a-Lock $20.oo every time he did it. I suggested to him, have a extra door key made at a cost of $1.25 and stick it in your wallet. The next time you lock yourself out just pull it out of your wallet and open your car door. He complimented me for being so smart. I think he has mistaken intelligence for common as dirt good old fashioned horse sense. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Brown" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services > Ok I'll jump in now. > > My thought of how this would work is as follows > (and I'm open to ideas) > > Buyer and seller both contact me with brief buyer > seller details. > > Buyer sends me a check for the purchase amount > plus something like $2.00 to cover postage and > handling. > > I deposit the check into my checking account and > advise the seller. Absent hearing from me that > the check bounced, seller sends to buyer ten days > after my deposit of buyer's check. This ten day > period should be plenty of time for me to learn > if the check is no good. > > Buyer notifies me when item arrives and I send my > personal check to seller. I only do what > mutually seller and buyer tell me to do. If > buyer is unhappy with the merchandise, buyer > returns it to seller at his expense and I return > buyer's purchase price. If there is a squabble, > I hold onto the money until the squabble is > worked out. Parties would have to do a reply to > my instructions agreeing to this procedure or > some other procedure that they agree upon. I > would, of course, assume to liability for > anything other than that set forth in the > agreement. OK...getting to legaleze now so I'll > stop. > > Yes, this may take close to a month to consummate > but everyone knows for sure that the item arrived > and the money will, too. > > Anyone wanting to use this process merely shoots > me an e-mail off the net and all subsequent > e-mails are off the net. > > Ok...I'm done. > > Tim > Lake Arrowhead, California > timwbrown@yahoo.com > > > --- Edwin Blocher wrote: > > Tim Brown is a KR guy and on the KR Net. I'd > > sure rather pay him a fee than > > E-Bay. My gut feeling is that for the KR Net > > guys his fee would little to > > nothing. How about it Tim? > > Ed Blocher > > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 13:57:00 +1100 To: "krnet listing" From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Australian KR2s For Sale Message-ID: <001401c2d630$4096e3c0$0100a8c0@barry> ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2D68C.7158B680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As listed in the Aviation Trader, Feb. 03 "Rand Robinson KRII Stretch. Project mostly complete POA 0266882205." I have not been able to contact this add as yet. I have NO info on it. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2D68C.7158B680-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:03:20 -0700 To: From: "Lee" Subject: Re: KR> Tax Time Message-ID: <003b01c2d631$22e43d40$7001a8c0@D3DF1Y11> I know better than anybody that mistakes can happen. no problem, have a Great day. Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:07 PM Subject: Re: KR> Tax Time > Uh-huh...that's why it was sent to a couple dozen lists....all by accident > I'm sure. > > Oh yeah, I was born yesterday too. > > In a message dated 2/13/2003 1:58:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Sutstoy@aol.com writes: > > > > Sorry gang, > > Did not mean to send this to the list. > > > > Aloha > > Joe :>}) > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:19:29 -0700 To: From: "Lee" Subject: removal of elevator Message-ID: <00c901c2d633$63fa9d40$7001a8c0@D3DF1Y11> ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C2D5F8.B5D472C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable netters, I am in the process of updating, and renovating an old KR2 1984 was the = year built. Does anybody have a suggestion on how to remove the = elevator? Lee Van Dyke ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C2D5F8.B5D472C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:29:27 -0700 To: "KRNET" From: "Louis Staalberg" Subject: Kogelmann/wiringKR2S Message-ID: <000f01c2d6a1$d5ca9f60$0200a8c6@toshiba> To Mark Langford and net. I tried to download this diagram and got page 1 of 5, then page 2 of 5 and then three more blank pages. Any ideas how to get the rest? They are indeed super nice drawings. Regards, Louis Louis Staalberg N9FL@cybertrails.com Payson, Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:17:49 -0600 To: "Darla Packwood" , "FLOYD J ELMORE" , "Gayle Gaston" , "KRnet" From: "David Packwood" Subject: Fw: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C2D67E.96966FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DennyHDad@aol.com=20 To: MegHMom@aol.com ; davam1947@juno.com ; imgoneflyin@msn.com=20 Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis >A Little Boy & His Fishing Pole=20 >=20 >This true story is about someone in Indiana and I couldn't resist = passing it=20 >on....gives one pause for thought....=20 >=20 >Howard County Sheriff Jerry Marr got a disturbing call one Saturday=20 >afternoon=20 >a few months ago.=20 >=20 >His 6-year-old grandson Mikey had been hit by a car while fishing with = his=20 >dad. The father and son were near a bridge by the Kokomo Reservoir when = a=20 >woman lost control of her car,slid off the bridge and hit Mikey at a = rate of=20 >=20 >about 50 mph. Sheriff Marr had seen the results of accidents like his = and=20 >feared the worst.When he got to Saint Joseph Hospital, he rushed = through the=20 >=20 >emergency room to find Mikey=20 >conscious and in fairly good spirits Mikey, what happened?" Sheriff = Marr=20 >asked. Mikey replied, "Well, Papaw, I was fishin' with Dad, and some = lady=20 >runned me over, I flew into a mud puddle, and broke my fishin' pole and = I=20 >didn't get to catch no fish!"=20 >=20 >As it turned out, the impact propelled Mikey about 500 feet, over a few = >trees=20 >and an=20 >embankment and in the middle of a mud puddle. His only injuries were to = his=20 >right femur bone which had broken in two places. Mikey had surgery to = place=20 >pins in his leg. Otherwise the boy is fine. Since all the boy could = talk=20 >about was that his=20 >fishing pole was broken, the Sheriff went out to Wal-mart and bought = him a=20 >new one while he was in surgery so he could have it when he came out. = The=20 >next day the Sheriff sat with Mikey to keep him company in the = hospital.=20 >Mikey was=20 >enjoying his new fishing pole and talked about when he could go fishing = >again=20 >as he cast into the trash can.=20 >=20 >When they were alone, Mikey, matter-of-factly, said, "Papaw, did you = know=20 >Jesus is real?"=20 >"Well," the Sheriff replied, a little startled."Yes, Jesus is real to = all=20 >who=20 >believe in him and love him in their hearts."=20 >"No," said Mikey. "I mean Jesus is REALLY real."=20 >"What do you mean?" asked the Sheriff.=20 >"I know he's real 'cause I saw him," said Mikey, still casting into the = >trash=20 >can.=20 >"You did?" said the Sheriff.=20 >"Yep," said Mikey. "When that lady runned me over and broke my fishing = pole,=20 >=20 >Jesus caught me in his arms and laid me down in the mud puddle."=20 >=20 >GIVES YOU GOOSE BUMPS DOESN'T IT!?=20 >=20 >And so.........=20 >I asked the Lord to bless you=20 >As I prayed for you today=20 >To guide you and protect you=20 >As you go along your way=20 >His love is always with you=20 >His promises are true=20 >And when we give Him all our cares=20 >You know He will see us through=20 >So when the road you're traveling on=20 >Seems difficult at best=20 >Just remember I'm here praying=20 >And GOD WILL DO THE REST.=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C2D67E.96966FE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:49:28 -0500 To: From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: RE: KR> Fw: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis Message-ID: I'm from Howard County Indiana, and I don't believe any car knocked anyone 500 feet through the air. Further, you need to find another agenda for miracle stories. Also, we don't talk like that in North Central Indiana, or Southern Indiana. The other miracle is that Jerry Marr didn't get some Jail time while being deposed. Please leave this stuff off the net, and consider credibility. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: David Packwood [mailto:ImGoneFlyin@msn.com] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:18 PM To: Darla Packwood; FLOYD J ELMORE; Gayle Gaston; KRnet Subject: KR> Fw: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: DennyHDad@aol.com To: MegHMom@aol.com ; davam1947@juno.com ; imgoneflyin@msn.com Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis >A Little Boy & His Fishing Pole > >This true story is about someone in Indiana and I couldn't resist passing it >on....gives one pause for thought.... > >Howard County Sheriff Jerry Marr got a disturbing call one Saturday >afternoon >a few months ago. > >His 6-year-old grandson Mikey had been hit by a car while fishing with his >dad. The father and son were near a bridge by the Kokomo Reservoir when a >woman lost control of her car,slid off the bridge and hit Mikey at a rate of > >about 50 mph. Sheriff Marr had seen the results of accidents like his and >feared the worst.When he got to Saint Joseph Hospital, he rushed through the > >emergency room to find Mikey >conscious and in fairly good spirits Mikey, what happened?" Sheriff Marr >asked. Mikey replied, "Well, Papaw, I was fishin' with Dad, and some lady >runned me over, I flew into a mud puddle, and broke my fishin' pole and I >didn't get to catch no fish!" > >As it turned out, the impact propelled Mikey about 500 feet, over a few >trees >and an >embankment and in the middle of a mud puddle. His only injuries were to his >right femur bone which had broken in two places. Mikey had surgery to place >pins in his leg. Otherwise the boy is fine. Since all the boy could talk >about was that his >fishing pole was broken, the Sheriff went out to Wal-mart and bought him a >new one while he was in surgery so he could have it when he came out. The >next day the Sheriff sat with Mikey to keep him company in the hospital. >Mikey was >enjoying his new fishing pole and talked about when he could go fishing >again >as he cast into the trash can. > >When they were alone, Mikey, matter-of-factly, said, "Papaw, did you know >Jesus is real?" >"Well," the Sheriff replied, a little startled."Yes, Jesus is real to all >who >believe in him and love him in their hearts." >"No," said Mikey. "I mean Jesus is REALLY real." >"What do you mean?" asked the Sheriff. >"I know he's real 'cause I saw him," said Mikey, still casting into the >trash >can. >"You did?" said the Sheriff. >"Yep," said Mikey. "When that lady runned me over and broke my fishing pole, > >Jesus caught me in his arms and laid me down in the mud puddle." > >GIVES YOU GOOSE BUMPS DOESN'T IT!? > >And so......... >I asked the Lord to bless you >As I prayed for you today >To guide you and protect you >As you go along your way >His love is always with you >His promises are true >And when we give Him all our cares >You know He will see us through >So when the road you're traveling on >Seems difficult at best >Just remember I'm here praying >And GOD WILL DO THE REST. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:18:50 -0600 To: "KRnet" , "DennyHDad Hesher" , "Darla Packwood" , "Gayle Gaston" From: "David Packwood" Subject: Fw: GO FLY Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C2D67E.BB07D030 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00A3_01C2D67E.BB07D030" ------=_NextPart_001_00A3_01C2D67E.BB07D030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1257" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: FLOYD J ELMORE=20 To: Sam Dunlap ; Bob Gregory ; Richard Bodine ; Eadsridge ; David = williams ; David Packwood ; Langley jim ; Lloydsondra=20 Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:23 AM Subject: GO FLY =20 ------=_NextPart_001_00A3_01C2D67E.BB07D030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1257" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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------=_NextPart_001_00A3_01C2D67E.BB07D030-- ------=_NextPart_000_00A2_01C2D67E.BB07D030-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:25:57 -0600 To: "kr net" From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: Instrument panel labels Message-ID: <001101c2d6e4$4fa81be0$0900a8c0@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2D6B2.03F97CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I may not be using the correct search words, but I've found very little = in the archives pertaining to lettering on the instrument panel. What works well to label switches on a painted panel? Will the computer = printed adhesive backed labels suffice, or is there a more professional = way to do it? Thanks, Jim Vance = Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2D6B2.03F97CC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:01:23 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Instrument panel labels Message-ID: <155.1be96a3a.2b82dfe3@aol.com> --part1_155.1be96a3a.2b82dfe3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Buy a kit from Spurce or Wicks or Sporties AviationMech KR-2 N110LR 1984 to Present www.members.aol.com:/aviationmech --part1_155.1be96a3a.2b82dfe3_boundary-- ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************