From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 19 Feb 2003 12:52:37 -0000 Issue 636 Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 4:53 AM krnet Digest 19 Feb 2003 12:52:37 -0000 Issue 636 Topics (messages 15246 through 15275): Re: Instrument panel labels 15246 by: Dan Heath 15247 by: gleone 15248 by: JEHayward.aol.com 15250 by: ECLarsen81.aol.com Re: Re:Escrow Services 15249 by: Ron Freiberger 15264 by: n886kr.netscape.net 15265 by: Tim Brown 15271 by: Edwin Blocher Re: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis 15251 by: wstarrs removal of elevator 15252 by: Lee 15256 by: Phillip Matheson 15257 by: Phillip Matheson 15259 by: Dan Heath 15267 by: GARYKR2.cs.com Cessna parts for sale 15253 by: Justin 15255 by: David Hartz 15260 by: Ron Eason 15268 by: "" To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:16:08 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Instrument panel labels Message-Id: <3E51B388.000001.01204@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_W6LHQL80000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All of my switches were in a line at the bottom of the panel and I went t= o a trophy shop and had a little trophy label made to identify the switches.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Monday, February 17, 2003 04:23:28 PM=0D To: kr net=0D Subject: KR> Instrument panel labels=0D =0D I may not be using the correct search words, but I've found very little i= n the archives pertaining to lettering on the instrument panel.=0D =0D What works well to label switches on a painted panel? Will the computer printed adhesive backed labels suffice, or is there a more professional w= ay to do it?=0D =0D Thanks,=0D Jim Vance=0D Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com --------------Boundary-00=_W6LHQL80000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:45:27 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: gleone Subject: Re: KR> Instrument panel labels Message-ID: <3E518227.5D772032@tritel.net> --------------69815C811C63151B2FF92B4E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Being that I do custom engraving, I plan to engrave my panel myself. Dan Heath wrote: > All of my switches were in a line at the bottom of the panel and I went to a > trophy shop and had a little trophy label made to identify the switches. > > > > N64KR > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > > > See you in Red Oak - 2003 > > > > See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: KRnet@mailinglists.org > > Date: Monday, February 17, 2003 04:23:28 PM > > To: kr net > > Subject: KR> Instrument panel labels > > > > I may not be using the correct search words, but I've found very little in > the archives pertaining to lettering on the instrument panel. > > What works well to label switches on a painted panel? Will the computer > printed adhesive backed labels suffice, or is there a more professional way > to do it? > > Thanks, > > Jim Vance > > Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com --------------69815C811C63151B2FF92B4E-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:49:26 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Instrument panel labels Message-ID: <12b.2311712e.2b82eb26@aol.com> In a message dated 2/17/03 5:32:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, VANCE@CLAFLINWILDCATS.COM writes: << What works well to label switches on a painted panel? Will the computer printed adhesive backed labels suffice, or is there a more professional way to do it? >> I bought a sheet of decals for about $10 from Wicks. It had everything I needed in small black-on-clear vinyl stick-on decals (plus a lot I didn't need). They look good. Jim H. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 22:00:09 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: ECLarsen81@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Instrument panel labels Message-ID: <1d9.2f8b0c8.2b82fbb9@aol.com> Jim, I like using the 1/8 and 3/32 inch rub-on transfer letters myself, I can get the different sizes at the local art supply store in either black or white. For standard wording, Wag Areo carries placarding for different types of planes in the rub-on variety as well. I keep a small stock at the shop. Once applied, I use a clear urethane and an air brush to seal them. Special applications such as lines and arcs (dimmers, etc.), I lay out with fisk and use "00" or "000" brushes or air brush. In the past, I've also used PC board layout tapes for the lines and arcs sealed with clear, but they are thick and create a raised line. My two cents. Ed Larsen In a message dated 2/17/2003 7:29:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, VANCE@CLAFLINWILDCATS.COM writes: << may not be using the correct search words, but I've found very little in the archives pertaining to lettering on the instrument panel. What works well to label switches on a painted panel? Will the computer printed adhesive backed labels suffice, or is there a more professional way to do it? Thanks, Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com >> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:57:21 -0500 To: From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: RE: KR> Re:Escrow Services Message-ID: There is a good escrow service through the USPS. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Brown [mailto:timwbrown@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 5:29 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services Ok I'll jump in now. My thought of how this would work is as follows (and I'm open to ideas) Buyer and seller both contact me with brief buyer seller details. Buyer sends me a check for the purchase amount plus something like $2.00 to cover postage and handling. I deposit the check into my checking account and advise the seller. Absent hearing from me that the check bounced, seller sends to buyer ten days after my deposit of buyer's check. This ten day period should be plenty of time for me to learn if the check is no good. Buyer notifies me when item arrives and I send my personal check to seller. I only do what mutually seller and buyer tell me to do. If buyer is unhappy with the merchandise, buyer returns it to seller at his expense and I return buyer's purchase price. If there is a squabble, I hold onto the money until the squabble is worked out. Parties would have to do a reply to my instructions agreeing to this procedure or some other procedure that they agree upon. I would, of course, assume to liability for anything other than that set forth in the agreement. OK...getting to legaleze now so I'll stop. Yes, this may take close to a month to consummate but everyone knows for sure that the item arrived and the money will, too. Anyone wanting to use this process merely shoots me an e-mail off the net and all subsequent e-mails are off the net. Ok...I'm done. Tim Lake Arrowhead, California timwbrown@yahoo.com --- Edwin Blocher wrote: > Tim Brown is a KR guy and on the KR Net. I'd > sure rather pay him a fee than > E-Bay. My gut feeling is that for the KR Net > guys his fee would little to > nothing. How about it Tim? > Ed Blocher > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:39:28 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: n886kr@netscape.net Subject: Re:Escrow Services Message-ID: <5509D73E.2B81C350.0005EAA5@netscape.net> Tim and KRnetters, I feel like we are making very positve progress in developing an effective means of ensuring happy buyers and sellers. Are there any suggestions from the KRnetters on electronic transfer of funds, i.e. Pay Pal, etc. that may speed up the process. A month waiting on a critical part could seem like an eternity during prime flying season (Jan 1 thru Dec 31) :>). I certainly like the idea of any dissatisfaction being handled off net. Rick Collins, N886KR Little Beast Tim Brown wrote: >Ok I'll jump in now. > >My thought of how this would work is as follows >(and I'm open to ideas) > >Buyer and seller both contact me with brief buyer >seller details. > >Buyer sends me a check for the purchase amount >plus something like $2.00 to cover postage and >handling. > >I deposit the check into my checking account and >advise the seller. Absent hearing from me that >the check bounced, seller sends to buyer ten days >after my deposit of buyer's check. This ten day >period should be plenty of time for me to learn >if the check is no good. > >Buyer notifies me when item arrives and I send my >personal check to seller. I only do what >mutually seller and buyer tell me to do. If >buyer is unhappy with the merchandise, buyer >returns it to seller at his expense and I return >buyer's purchase price. If there is a squabble, >I hold onto the money until the squabble is >worked out. Parties would have to do a reply to >my instructions agreeing to this procedure or >some other procedure that they agree upon. I >would, of course, assume to liability for >anything other than that set forth in the >agreement. OK...getting to legaleze now so I'll >stop. > >Yes, this may take close to a month to consummate >but everyone knows for sure that the item arrived >and the money will, too. > >Anyone wanting to use this process merely shoots >me an e-mail off the net and all subsequent >e-mails are off the net. > >Ok...I'm done. > >Tim >Lake Arrowhead, California >timwbrown@yahoo.com > > >--- Edwin Blocher wrote: >> Tim Brown is a KR guy and on the KR Net. I'd >> sure rather pay him a fee than >> E-Bay. My gut feeling is that for the KR Net >> guys his fee would little to >> nothing. How about it Tim? >> Ed Blocher >> Santa Rosa Beach, FL >> > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day >http://shopping.yahoo.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 14:58:42 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Tim Brown Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services Message-ID: <20030218225842.7243.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> The simple solution is to send a Cashier's Check. Then a couple days in the mail to "escrow" and a quick e-mail to the seller and the item is on its way. That way, it really wouldn't take any longer than if you did it the way it has always been done. Tim --- n886kr@netscape.net wrote: > Tim and KRnetters, > > I feel like we are making very positve progress > in developing an effective means of ensuring > happy buyers and sellers. Are there any > suggestions from the KRnetters on electronic > transfer of funds, i.e. Pay Pal, etc. that may > speed up the process. A month waiting on a > critical part could seem like an eternity > during prime flying season (Jan 1 thru Dec 31) > :>). I certainly like the idea of any > dissatisfaction being handled off net. > > Rick Collins, N886KR Little Beast > > > Tim Brown wrote: > > >Ok I'll jump in now. > > > >My thought of how this would work is as > follows > >(and I'm open to ideas) > > > >Buyer and seller both contact me with brief > buyer > >seller details. > > > >Buyer sends me a check for the purchase amount > >plus something like $2.00 to cover postage and > >handling. > > > >I deposit the check into my checking account > and > >advise the seller. Absent hearing from me > that > >the check bounced, seller sends to buyer ten > days > >after my deposit of buyer's check. This ten > day > >period should be plenty of time for me to > learn > >if the check is no good. > > > >Buyer notifies me when item arrives and I send > my > >personal check to seller. I only do what > >mutually seller and buyer tell me to do. If > >buyer is unhappy with the merchandise, buyer > >returns it to seller at his expense and I > return > >buyer's purchase price. If there is a > squabble, > >I hold onto the money until the squabble is > >worked out. Parties would have to do a reply > to > >my instructions agreeing to this procedure or > >some other procedure that they agree upon. I > >would, of course, assume to liability for > >anything other than that set forth in the > >agreement. OK...getting to legaleze now so > I'll > >stop. > > > >Yes, this may take close to a month to > consummate > >but everyone knows for sure that the item > arrived > >and the money will, too. > > > >Anyone wanting to use this process merely > shoots > >me an e-mail off the net and all subsequent > >e-mails are off the net. > > > >Ok...I'm done. > > > >Tim > >Lake Arrowhead, California > >timwbrown@yahoo.com > > > > > >--- Edwin Blocher > wrote: > >> Tim Brown is a KR guy and on the KR Net. I'd > >> sure rather pay him a fee than > >> E-Bay. My gut feeling is that for the KR Net > >> guys his fee would little to > >> nothing. How about it Tim? > >> Ed Blocher > >> Santa Rosa Beach, FL > >> > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's > Day > >http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: > krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > >See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. > Upgrade now! > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail > account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: > krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:45:22 -0600 To: From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services Message-ID: <001e01c2d7d1$b6e20e40$0201a8c0@computer> Another thought. I get money orders without any charge at my bank or you can get them for a couple of bucks at the Post Office. Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Brown" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services > The simple solution is to send a Cashier's Check. > > Then a couple days in the mail to "escrow" and a > quick e-mail to the seller and the item is on its > way. That way, it really wouldn't take any > longer than if you did it the way it has always > been done. > > Tim > > > --- n886kr@netscape.net wrote: > > Tim and KRnetters, > > > > I feel like we are making very positve progress > > in developing an effective means of ensuring > > happy buyers and sellers. Are there any > > suggestions from the KRnetters on electronic > > transfer of funds, i.e. Pay Pal, etc. that may > > speed up the process. A month waiting on a > > critical part could seem like an eternity > > during prime flying season (Jan 1 thru Dec 31) > > :>). I certainly like the idea of any > > dissatisfaction being handled off net. > > > > Rick Collins, N886KR Little Beast > > > > > > Tim Brown wrote: > > > > >Ok I'll jump in now. > > > > > >My thought of how this would work is as > > follows > > >(and I'm open to ideas) > > > > > >Buyer and seller both contact me with brief > > buyer > > >seller details. > > > > > >Buyer sends me a check for the purchase amount > > >plus something like $2.00 to cover postage and > > >handling. > > > > > >I deposit the check into my checking account > > and > > >advise the seller. Absent hearing from me > > that > > >the check bounced, seller sends to buyer ten > > days > > >after my deposit of buyer's check. This ten > > day > > >period should be plenty of time for me to > > learn > > >if the check is no good. > > > > > >Buyer notifies me when item arrives and I send > > my > > >personal check to seller. I only do what > > >mutually seller and buyer tell me to do. If > > >buyer is unhappy with the merchandise, buyer > > >returns it to seller at his expense and I > > return > > >buyer's purchase price. If there is a > > squabble, > > >I hold onto the money until the squabble is > > >worked out. Parties would have to do a reply > > to > > >my instructions agreeing to this procedure or > > >some other procedure that they agree upon. I > > >would, of course, assume to liability for > > >anything other than that set forth in the > > >agreement. OK...getting to legaleze now so > > I'll > > >stop. > > > > > >Yes, this may take close to a month to > > consummate > > >but everyone knows for sure that the item > > arrived > > >and the money will, too. > > > > > >Anyone wanting to use this process merely > > shoots > > >me an e-mail off the net and all subsequent > > >e-mails are off the net. > > > > > >Ok...I'm done. > > > > > >Tim > > >Lake Arrowhead, California > > >timwbrown@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > >--- Edwin Blocher > > wrote: > > >> Tim Brown is a KR guy and on the KR Net. I'd > > >> sure rather pay him a fee than > > >> E-Bay. My gut feeling is that for the KR Net > > >> guys his fee would little to > > >> nothing. How about it Tim? > > >> Ed Blocher > > >> Santa Rosa Beach, FL > > >> > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do you Yahoo!? > > >Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's > > Day > > >http://shopping.yahoo.com > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To post to the list, email: > > krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > >For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > >See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. > > Upgrade now! > > > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > > > > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail > > account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: > > krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > http://shopping.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:13:04 -0700 To: , From: "wstarrs" Subject: Re: KR> Fw: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis Message-ID: <004001c2d704$096a5600$9200a8c0@bstarrs> Did the Frinch steel your Fristmas or some thing like that ? Bah! Humbug! Let us not start another war over such minuisha. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Freiberger" To: Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: RE: KR> Fw: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis > I'm from Howard County Indiana, and I don't believe any car knocked anyone > 500 feet through the air. Further, you need to find another agenda for > miracle stories. Also, we don't talk like that in North Central Indiana, or > Southern Indiana. > > The other miracle is that Jerry Marr didn't get some Jail time while being > deposed. > > Please leave this stuff off the net, and consider credibility. > > > > Ron Freiberger > mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Packwood [mailto:ImGoneFlyin@msn.com] > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:18 PM > To: Darla Packwood; FLOYD J ELMORE; Gayle Gaston; KRnet > Subject: KR> Fw: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: DennyHDad@aol.com > To: MegHMom@aol.com ; davam1947@juno.com ; imgoneflyin@msn.com > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 4:33 PM > Subject: Thought you might enjoy this, Dennis > > > >A Little Boy & His Fishing Pole > > > >This true story is about someone in Indiana and I couldn't resist passing > it > >on....gives one pause for thought.... > > > >Howard County Sheriff Jerry Marr got a disturbing call one Saturday > >afternoon > >a few months ago. > > > >His 6-year-old grandson Mikey had been hit by a car while fishing with his > >dad. The father and son were near a bridge by the Kokomo Reservoir when a > >woman lost control of her car,slid off the bridge and hit Mikey at a rate > of > > > >about 50 mph. Sheriff Marr had seen the results of accidents like his and > >feared the worst.When he got to Saint Joseph Hospital, he rushed through > the > > > >emergency room to find Mikey > >conscious and in fairly good spirits Mikey, what happened?" Sheriff Marr > >asked. Mikey replied, "Well, Papaw, I was fishin' with Dad, and some lady > >runned me over, I flew into a mud puddle, and broke my fishin' pole and I > >didn't get to catch no fish!" > > > >As it turned out, the impact propelled Mikey about 500 feet, over a few > >trees > >and an > >embankment and in the middle of a mud puddle. His only injuries were to his > >right femur bone which had broken in two places. Mikey had surgery to place > >pins in his leg. Otherwise the boy is fine. Since all the boy could talk > >about was that his > >fishing pole was broken, the Sheriff went out to Wal-mart and bought him a > >new one while he was in surgery so he could have it when he came out. The > >next day the Sheriff sat with Mikey to keep him company in the hospital. > >Mikey was > >enjoying his new fishing pole and talked about when he could go fishing > >again > >as he cast into the trash can. > > > >When they were alone, Mikey, matter-of-factly, said, "Papaw, did you know > >Jesus is real?" > >"Well," the Sheriff replied, a little startled."Yes, Jesus is real to all > >who > >believe in him and love him in their hearts." > >"No," said Mikey. "I mean Jesus is REALLY real." > >"What do you mean?" asked the Sheriff. > >"I know he's real 'cause I saw him," said Mikey, still casting into the > >trash > >can. > >"You did?" said the Sheriff. > >"Yep," said Mikey. "When that lady runned me over and broke my fishing > pole, > > > >Jesus caught me in his arms and laid me down in the mud puddle." > > > >GIVES YOU GOOSE BUMPS DOESN'T IT!? > > > >And so......... > >I asked the Lord to bless you > >As I prayed for you today > >To guide you and protect you > >As you go along your way > >His love is always with you > >His promises are true > >And when we give Him all our cares > >You know He will see us through > >So when the road you're traveling on > >Seems difficult at best > >Just remember I'm here praying > >And GOD WILL DO THE REST. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:09:34 -0700 To: From: "Lee" Subject: removal of elevator Message-ID: <000c01c2d714$50b25f20$7001a8c0@D3DF1Y11> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2D6D9.A2892760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable netters, I am in the process of updating, and renovating an old KR2 1984 was the = year built. Does anybody have a suggestion on how to remove the = elevator? Do I start cutting? what is the best way to remove the old = elevator. Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ lee@vandyke5.com ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2D6D9.A2892760-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:05:48 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> removal of elevator Message-ID: <001101c2d735$50b25c20$8797dccb@Matheson> Lee. I removed my elevator, by cutting the centre of the V/ Fin with a jig saw( sabre saw) Of cause I will have to reglass the Fin. or you could cut the elevator in half and remove it, build you new elevator spar and hinges onto the H/S and finish your elevator on the plane. I was even told to build a new one in two peaces and join it on the plane. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 See our engines at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:26:24 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> removal of elevator Message-ID: <000d01c2d738$3102c240$8797dccb@Matheson> Or cut the glass and foam off while on the plane and redo on the plane, using the same spar and ribs. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 See our engines at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee" To: Sent: 17 February 2003 14:19 Subject: KR> removal of elevator netters, I am in the process of updating, and renovating an old KR2 1984 was the year built. Does anybody have a suggestion on how to remove the elevator? Lee Van Dyke ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 05:51:59 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> removal of elevator Message-Id: <3E523A7F.000003.01204@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_NUBIG6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why do you need to remove the old elevator. This is not a good thing to = do and maybe there is a better solution.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:09:47 PM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: KR> removal of elevator=0D =0D netters,=0D =0D I am in the process of updating, and renovating an old KR2 1984 was the y= ear built. Does anybody have a suggestion on how to remove the elevator? Do I start cutting? what is the best way to remove the old elevator.=0D =0D Lee Van Dyke=0D Mesa AZ=0D lee@vandyke5.com --------------Boundary-00=_NUBIG6G0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:33:26 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: GARYKR2@cs.com Subject: Re: KR> removal of elevator Message-ID: <17a.16cfe166.2b8438e6@cs.com> In a message dated 2/18/03 5:21:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, matheson@dodo.com.au writes: << I am in the process of updating, and renovating an old KR2 1984 was the year built. Does anybody have a suggestion on how to remove the elevator? Lee Van Dyke >> I have my "2" set up so I can remove the elevator. What I did was to cut out a small portion of the vertical stab spar. Then I installed two plates made from 4130 on each side of the spar. Same theory as wing attach fittings. The piece of spar you cut out is placed between the two plates where it came out from. Hope this helps you. There is over 400 hours on my bird with no problems. Gary Hinkle (A/P) Middletown,Pa. garykr2@cs.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:52:42 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: Cessna parts for sale Message-ID: <002201c2d7d2$c16bb2c0$ed7ba8c0@computer> ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2D7A0.71AA98A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If anyone is intrested in buying some C-150 insterments. Let me know. I have an airspeed indicater 40-180mph with 160mph redline=20 Altimeter VSI 0-2000VPM indications Tach with 2750Red line (O-200 engine) CHT guage, standard needle The normal cessna 150 guages (oil pressure,oil tempature, fuel Left and = fuel Right,) All switches,=20 Rudder petals MAYBE the O-200 will be forsale also.I havent looked at it to see what = is all there. This is an airplane that is "salvage" Never crashed but abanded and has = been sitting since 94. 1966 Cessna 150. Make offers to me in a private e-mail if intrested. Justin ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2D7A0.71AA98A0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:43:21 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: David Hartz Subject: Re: KR> Cessna parts for sale Message-ID: <20030218074321.78149.qmail@web41312.mail.yahoo.com> JUSTIN IS THERE A ARTIFICIAL HORIZON?IF THERE IS A ENGINE ,GET ME A PRICE. DAVE---707-684-0294 --- Justin wrote: > If anyone is intrested in buying some C-150 > insterments. Let me know. > > I have an airspeed indicater 40-180mph with 160mph > redline > Altimeter > VSI 0-2000VPM indications > Tach with 2750Red line (O-200 engine) > CHT guage, standard needle > The normal cessna 150 guages (oil pressure,oil > tempature, fuel Left and fuel Right,) > All switches, > Rudder petals > > MAYBE the O-200 will be forsale also.I havent looked > at it to see what is all there. > > This is an airplane that is "salvage" Never crashed > but abanded and has been sitting since 94. 1966 > Cessna 150. > > Make offers to me in a private e-mail if intrested. > > Justin > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 07:34:23 -0800 To: From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Cessna parts for sale Message-Id: <200302180734.AA118292634@jrl-engineering.com> Justin, Could you find out the cost of these items that are for sale? I own a 150. How about the radios? Prop? Ron ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Justin" Reply-To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:52:42 -0600 >If anyone is intrested in buying some C-150 insterments. Let me know. > >I have an airspeed indicater 40-180mph with 160mph redline >Altimeter >VSI 0-2000VPM indications >Tach with 2750Red line (O-200 engine) >CHT guage, standard needle >The normal cessna 150 guages (oil pressure,oil tempature, fuel Left and fuel Right,) >All switches, >Rudder petals > >MAYBE the O-200 will be forsale also.I havent looked at it to see what is all there. > >This is an airplane that is "salvage" Never crashed but abanded and has been sitting since 94. 1966 Cessna 150. > >Make offers to me in a private e-mail if intrested. > >Justin > > -- Ronald R. Eason Sr. Pres. & CEO, KCMO Office J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd. 816-468-4091, Kansas City, MO. Jim Eason V.P, 770-446-1291, Atlanta, Georgia Web Page: www.jrl-engineering.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:57:30 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "" Cc: Subject: RE: KR> Cessna parts for sale Message-Id: <20030219025730.43063B6CD@xmxpita.excite.com> --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__d697c03c8e1323ee87886d6a096e293e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit how much for the plane--- On Tue 02/18, Justin < jmw116@socal.rr.com > wrote: From: Justin [mailto: jmw116@socal.rr.com]To: KRnet@mailinglists.orgDate: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:52:42 -0600Subject: KR> Cessna parts for saleIf anyone is intrested in buying some C-150 insterments. Let me know.I have an airspeed indicater 40-180mph with 160mph redline AltimeterVSI 0-2000VPM indicationsTach with 2750Red line (O-200 engine)CHT guage, standard needleThe normal cessna 150 guages (oil pressure,oil tempature, fuel Left and fuel Right,)All switches, Rudder petalsMAYBE the O-200 will be forsale also.I havent looked at it to see what is all there.This is an airplane that is "salvage" Never crashed but abanded and has been sitting since 94. 1966 Cessna 150.Make offers to me in a private e-mail if intrested.Justin _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__d697c03c8e1323ee87886d6a096e293e-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:58:00 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "" Cc: Subject: RE: KR> Cessna parts for sale Message-Id: <20030219025800.A32DCB6CD@xmxpita.excite.com> --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__d669cca768f2615cb8434a471c310cb8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- On Tue 02/18, Justin < jmw116@socal.rr.com > wrote: From: Justin [mailto: jmw116@socal.rr.com]To: KRnet@mailinglists.orgDate: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:52:42 -0600Subject: KR> Cessna parts for saleIf anyone is intrested in buying some C-150 insterments. Let me know.I have an airspeed indicater 40-180mph with 160mph redline AltimeterVSI 0-2000VPM indicationsTach with 2750Red line (O-200 engine)CHT guage, standard needleThe normal cessna 150 guages (oil pressure,oil tempature, fuel Left and fuel Right,)All switches, Rudder petalsMAYBE the O-200 will be forsale also.I havent looked at it to see what is all there.This is an airplane that is "salvage" Never crashed but abanded and has been sitting since 94. 1966 Cessna 150.Make offers to me in a private e-mail if intrested.Justin _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --EXCITEBOUNDARY_000__d669cca768f2615cb8434a471c310cb8-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:56:09 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: heavy engine "beefing up" Message-ID: <006f01c2d7d3$3801f980$ed7ba8c0@computer> ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C2D7A0.ED522CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was speaking with an engeier buddy about how he would beef up the = airframe to take the extra 10% in weight for the corvair. His suggestion = to me after lots of looking over the plans was to simply put 2 layers of = unti directional glass over the "slanted" peices of wood from the = firewall to the leading wing spar. Any commets on this being good enough. What have others done? = Looking at the bulkheads they seem to be plenty strong enough to take = the weight. Justin ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C2D7A0.ED522CC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:05:28 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Chris Giesel" Subject: Re: KR> heavy engine "beefing up" Message-ID: Justin, You and your engineer friend should get some engineering information on the plywood, and fiberglass/resin ( aircraft spruce provide specs in their catalog) and do some math to get stress analysis data. The only way that anybody can predict the strength or any other characteristic of a matereal is through mathematical analysis and then experimentation. Good luck, Chris >From: "Justin" >Reply-To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >To: >Subject: KR> heavy engine "beefing up" >Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:56:09 -0600 > >I was speaking with an engeier buddy about how he would beef up the >airframe to take the extra 10% in weight for the corvair. His suggestion to >me after lots of looking over the plans was to simply put 2 layers of unti >directional glass over the "slanted" peices of wood from the firewall to >the leading wing spar. > > Any commets on this being good enough. What have others done? Looking >at the bulkheads they seem to be plenty strong enough to take the weight. > >Justin _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:12:44 +0200 To: From: "JC Marais" Subject: Thought you might enjoy this, David / Canopy frame Message-ID: <01f101c2d739$c6617a60$13b8ef9b@jc> Dear David Packwood, Thank you very much for this lovely story about the boy who fell into mud. I think you accidentally did not paste the full message when you posted it. The part connecting it to a KR plane somehow got lost. As far as I understand, this message board is for the exclusive use of KR planes, or at least KR-related discussions. AND just to put my letters where my mouth is... I started building a frame for the canopy. My idea is to make is a forward hinge. I never thought is would be so tricky to get that big flimsy piece of foam shaped into a frame. Any hints would be appreciated. Regards. JC JC Marais South Africa jcmarais@intekom.co.za ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 21:31:20 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: virgnvs@juno.com Subject: Re: KR> Fw: GO FLY Message-ID: <20030218.104131.-343197.3.virgnvs@juno.com> ----__JNP_000_0c7f.551b.1f38 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_3d29.2114.711d This message is in MIME format. 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----__JNP_000_3d29.2114.711d-- ----__JNP_000_0c7f.551b.1f38-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:12:00 -0300 To: "molan" , From: "molan" Subject: Re: KR2S SPORT AVIATION Message-ID: <001801c2d789$ffb8fcc0$c90eb1c8@z4o4j2> > > Hello Folks, > The Brazilian KR2S featured in Sport Aviation JAN/2003 is mine ! I just > receive the magazine yesterday FEB 17. > molan@terra.com.br > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:48:49 -0600 To: From: "Edwin Blocher" Subject: Re: KR> Re: KR2S SPORT AVIATION Message-ID: <002801c2d7d2$320b4aa0$0201a8c0@computer> Great looking plane, in fact I have it as my wallpaper on my desktop. ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "molan" To: "molan" ; Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: KR> Re: KR2S SPORT AVIATION > > > > > Hello Folks, > > The Brazilian KR2S featured in Sport Aviation JAN/2003 is mine ! I just > > receive the magazine yesterday FEB 17. > > molan@terra.com.br > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 18:23:26 -0800 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: what happened to the earth rounding kr? Message-ID: <001401c2d7bd$e38aa420$0101a8c0@pavilion> ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2D77A.D4101180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know what happened to, or a progress report from the guy = flying around the world in a KR ? Wondering if world events are = interfering with the flight. Thanks, Jim Sporka=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C2D77A.D4101180-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 05:35:33 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Johnbellselsey@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> what happened to the earth rounding kr? Message-ID: <50.1852d9d0.2b84b7f5@aol.com> --part1_50.1852d9d0.2b84b7f5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jim, I guess you are referring to Colin Hales and Nadine Brauns who have recently flown from England to Australia and were planning to continue via the USA back to the UK. If so there is an excellent feature in the latest Popular Flying Association (The UK homebuilders association) magazine 'Popular Flying.' It is in the March/April issue just released with the concluding part in the May/June issue. I just looked on the PFA Webbsite and apparently they have returned to the UK on the 16th January and had the KR2 shipped back to France. The PFA Webbsite is www.pfa.org.uk John Bell --part1_50.1852d9d0.2b84b7f5_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 22:03:55 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Frank Ross Subject: Escrow Services Message-ID: <20030219060355.31845.qmail@web40911.mail.yahoo.com> I must be missing something here. I thought the problem was with people not getting the product they paid for, not with the payment. How does cashier's checks and money orders help? Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX --- Edwin Blocher wrote: > Another thought. I get money orders without any > charge at my bank or you can > get them for a couple of bucks at the Post Office. > Ed Blocher > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > eblocher@earthlink.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Brown" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:58 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Re:Escrow Services > > > > The simple solution is to send a Cashier's Check. > > > > Then a couple days in the mail to "escrow" and a > > quick e-mail to the seller and the item is on its > > way. That way, it really wouldn't take any > > longer than if you did it the way it has always > > been done. > > > > Tim __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 06:44:40 -0600 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Escrow Services Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030219064440.007ce960@pop.midwest.net> At 10:03 PM 2/18/03 -0800, you wrote: >I must be missing something here. >I thought the problem was with people not getting the >product they paid for, not with the payment. >How does cashier's checks and money orders help? >Frank Ross in San Antonio, TX ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ They are talking about a third party holding the funds until the item is shipped. The funds are released to the seller after he/she is found to be on the "up and up". It seems the money orders or cashier checks would have to be made to the third party in case they have to be cashed and returned. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************