From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 1 Mar 2003 04:24:50 -0000 Issue 644 Date: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:25 PM krnet Digest 1 Mar 2003 04:24:50 -0000 Issue 644 Topics (messages 15463 through 15486): Re: Back in the States 15463 by: wstarrs 15464 by: ROBERT COOPER 15467 by: Robert Stone 15484 by: Ron Eason KR Gathering 15465 by: Anthony Underwood 15468 by: Dan Heath 15469 by: Kenneth L Wiltrout 15473 by: ROBERT COOPER 15482 by: Ron Lee Windshields 15466 by: Eric Evezard 15470 by: Dan Heath 15472 by: Frank Dungan 15474 by: ninecraven.attbi.com Re: February KROnline 15471 by: larry severson 15479 by: Dan Heath 15483 by: Ron Eason Re: N4DD 15475 by: Brian Kraut 15478 by: JEAN VERON Re: EAA and the KR 15476 by: Ron Eason Re: REFINISHING MY WINGS 15477 by: Dan Heath 15485 by: Brian Kraut 15486 by: jim . synergy design Re: light weight transponders 15480 by: AviationMech.aol.com 15481 by: Phil Payne Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 07:35:45 -0700 To: From: "wstarrs" Subject: Re: KR> Back in the States Message-ID: <003b01c2df36$aea6f300$9200a8c0@bstarrs> ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C2DEFC.01910000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WELCOME HOME ! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Esch=20 To: krnet@mailinglists.org=20 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:06 AM Subject: KR> Back in the States All Just like to let everyone know on the KR list that I am back in the = states. Been in the wonderful country of Afghanistan for the past 5-6 = months. It is good to be back and now waiting for the word to when I will be = going back home to the state of Oregon, so I can get the building bug = back. John Esch __________________________________________________________________ J Esch ICQ#: 164487116 Current ICQ status: =20 + More ways to contact me=20 __________________________________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C2DEFC.01910000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:50:26 -0500 To: From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> Back in the States Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C2DF1F.96D1B060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Welcome back to the Good Ole US of A. Thanks for your service. Now go = have a Cheeseburger in Paradise. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Esch=20 To: krnet@mailinglists.org=20 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: KR> Back in the States All Just like to let everyone know on the KR list that I am back in the = states. Been in the wonderful country of Afghanistan for the past 5-6 = months. It is good to be back and now waiting for the word to when I will be = going back home to the state of Oregon, so I can get the building bug = back. John Esch __________________________________________________________________ J Esch ICQ#: 164487116 Current ICQ status: =20 + More ways to contact me=20 __________________________________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C2DF1F.96D1B060-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:39:07 -0600 To: From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Back in the States Message-ID: <001d01c2df50$4f099140$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Good advice Jack, but you forgot the french fries. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBERT COOPER" To: Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: Re: KR> Back in the States John Welcome back to the Good Ole US of A. Thanks for your service. Now go have a Cheeseburger in Paradise. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Esch To: krnet@mailinglists.org Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 9:06 AM Subject: KR> Back in the States All Just like to let everyone know on the KR list that I am back in the states. Been in the wonderful country of Afghanistan for the past 5-6 months. It is good to be back and now waiting for the word to when I will be going back home to the state of Oregon, so I can get the building bug back. John Esch __________________________________________________________________ J Esch ICQ#: 164487116 Current ICQ status: + More ways to contact me __________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 20:02:45 -0600 To: From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Back in the States Message-ID: <002201c2df96$a6ff8fd0$6501a8c0@Administration> ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2DF64.5C576430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Welcome home. hope everything is well with you. Lets build KR's. KRRon ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Esch=20 To: krnet@mailinglists.org=20 Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: KR> Back in the States All Just like to let everyone know on the KR list that I am back in the = states. Been in the wonderful country of Afghanistan for the past 5-6 = months. It is good to be back and now waiting for the word to when I will be = going back home to the state of Oregon, so I can get the building bug = back. John Esch __________________________________________________________________ J Esch ICQ#: 164487116 Current ICQ status: =20 + More ways to contact me=20 __________________________________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C2DF64.5C576430-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:17:38 -0500 To: "'KRnet@mailinglists.org'" From: Anthony Underwood Subject: KR Gathering Message-ID: <01C2DF23.6648ED60.xbs4fiverivers@xrxgsn.com> Hay everybody.I was wornding if there would be any interest in a future gathering here in the beautiful muontains of east Tennessee.There are several airports to chose from and i would be happy to host it,I'll be watching for input. Anthony Underwood ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:56:14 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering Message-Id: <3E5FCCEE.00000B.01052@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_Q5E1CJD0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anthony,=0D =0D That sounds great. You will have to watch the weather patterns and pick = a good time for weather in the mountains. That may be a little far east, b= ut I am for it.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Friday, February 28, 2003 09:17:04 AM=0D To: 'KRnet@mailinglists.org'=0D Subject: KR> KR Gathering=0D =0D Hay everybody.I was wornding if there would be any interest in a future =0D gathering here in the beautiful muontains of east Tennessee.There are =0D several airports to chose from and i would be happy to host it,I'll be =0D watching for input. Anthony Underwood=0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_Q5E1CJD0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:56:38 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering Message-ID: <20030228.125638.2472.2.klw1953@juno.com> Where were you thinking of having it? My wife loves country music. On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:17:38 -0500 Anthony Underwood writes: > Hay everybody.I was wornding if there would be any interest in a > future > gathering here in the beautiful muontains of east Tennessee.There > are > several airports to chose from and i would be happy to host it,I'll > be > watching for input. Anthony Underwood > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 14:34:39 -0500 To: From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering Message-ID: East Tennessee would be great for me, but it is probably too far east for left coasters. I'm originally from East TN, and go back there 2 or 3 times a year. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth L Wiltrout" To: Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 12:56 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR Gathering > Where were you thinking of having it? My wife loves country music. > > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:17:38 -0500 Anthony Underwood > writes: > > Hay everybody.I was wornding if there would be any interest in a > > future > > gathering here in the beautiful muontains of east Tennessee.There > > are > > several airports to chose from and i would be happy to host it,I'll > > be > > watching for input. Anthony Underwood > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply > > all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:13:03 -0700 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Ron Lee Subject: KR Gathering Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228181107.00a17e40@127.0.0.1> I suggest going to this site and searching for the phrase (without quotes) "2004 gathering" You will see the typical talk about selecting a site and some of the likely criteria. Most of all you will see that the decision is made at the previous year's gathering. Oops, here is the link: http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp Ron Lee At 12:17 PM 2/28/03 -0500, you wrote: >Hay everybody.I was wornding if there would be any interest in a future >gathering here in the beautiful muontains of east Tennessee.There are >several airports to chose from and i would be happy to host it,I'll be >watching for input. Anthony Underwood ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:25:10 +0200 To: "KR MAIL" From: "Eric Evezard" Subject: Windshields Message-ID: <001601c2df4e$76cd3bc0$7dce07c4@erick> ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2DF5F.1BED0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Netters, It is amazing to see the different thicknesses,shapes etc. of KR = windshields.Is there any test to see if they are strong enough before = taking to the air.? For instance how much pressure difference could one = expect from say static revs at 3000 pm and 3000 revs at say flying at = 1000 ft ? Now trigger happy flame gunners I am only generalising as = there are so many variables for a precise answer but generally speaking = what is the answer ? Furthermore,how does one know it the = windshield/canopy will stay put at redline airspeed ? Best Regards, Eric Evezard, South Africa. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2DF5F.1BED0300-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:03:25 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Windshields Message-Id: <3E5FCE9D.00000D.01052@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_PHE124L0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, and You don't. Unless you happen to have a wind tunnel at your dispo= sal =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Friday, February 28, 2003 09:23:32 AM=0D To: KR MAIL=0D Subject: KR> Windshields=0D =0D Hi Netters,=0D It is amazing to see the different thicknesses,shapes etc. of KR windshie= lds Is there any test to see if they are strong enough before taking to the a= ir ? For instance how much pressure difference could one expect from say sta= tic revs at 3000 pm and 3000 revs at say flying at 1000 ft ? Now trigger happ= y flame gunners I am only generalising as there are so many variables for a precise answer but generally speaking what is the answer ? Furthermore,ho= w does one know it the windshield/canopy will stay put at redline airspeed = ?=0D Best Regards,=0D Eric Evezard,=0D South Africa.=20 --------------Boundary-00=_PHE124L0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:16:53 -0600 To: From: "Frank Dungan" Subject: Re: KR> Windshields Message-Id: For what its worth... At Beechcraft we were more concerned with bird strike durability. We would test windscreens by launching chickens at them - - simulating = cruise speed.=20 All you need is an air powered cannon to shoot chickens at 100+ mph. (The Hawker folks figured out this works better if you thaw the chicken = first) fd >>> DanRH@AllTel.net 02/28/03 03:03PM >>> No, and You don't. Unless you happen to have a wind tunnel at your = disposal =20 N64KR =20 Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC =20 DanRH@KR-Builder.org=20 =20 See you in Red Oak - 2003 =20 See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=20 =20 -------Original Message------- =20 From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=20 Date: Friday, February 28, 2003 09:23:32 AM To: KR MAIL Subject: KR> Windshields =20 Hi Netters, It is amazing to see the different thicknesses,shapes etc. of KR windshield= s Is there any test to see if they are strong enough before taking to the = air ? For instance how much pressure difference could one expect from say = static revs at 3000 pm and 3000 revs at say flying at 1000 ft ? Now trigger happy flame gunners I am only generalising as there are so many variables for a precise answer but generally speaking what is the answer ? Furthermore,how does one know it the windshield/canopy will stay put at redline airspeed ? Best Regards, Eric Evezard, South Africa.=20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:45:33 +0000 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org (KR List) From: ninecraven@attbi.com Subject: windshields A fair test could be to create a mock up; install on a pickup so that it is up over the cab, and drive around at highway speeds to check its deflection. Paul Derry, NH -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:40:56 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry severson Subject: RE: KR> February KROnline Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030228103820.00b424b0@pop-server.socal.rr.com> I would be interested in everything that Phil asked for. I would also be interested in writing; unfortunately, I just got my garage ravaged KR2. It is also my first attempt. so all I have are questions, not knowledge. 1. design and fabrication of landing gear leg attachments complete >with fabrication drawings that others have used. >2. design and fabrication of nose wheel leg assemblies. >3. design, fabrication and installation of aluminum wing tanks >4. details of various seat configurations including 3-D contoured >bucket seats, 2-D contour (the common type), flat board and canvas >5. sliding canopy arrangements including discussion of the air loads >on canopies >6. discussion of push-rod control systems vs cable and pulley systems >7. discussion of relative merits of spoilers vs flaps and their >effects on stall speed, descent angle, controllability etc >8. discussion of the effects of vertical stabiliser area on stability, >controllability, spin resistance, drag etc >9. as above for horizontal stabiliser >10. discussion of options for attachment of seat belts > >There must be lots more. > >How about it guys? > >Phil Maley >Perth Australia Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:23:43 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: RE: KR> February KROnline Message-Id: <3E6019AF.000003.01336@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_JBT1G6G0000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You know, I could probably write something on all of those subjects. The problem is, I don't have any statistics or engineering facts to back any = of it up. I'm just like most of you out there, in that, I have learned everything that I know about building this little plane and all the thing= s that go with it, just from doing it and being around other people who do = it.=0D =0D I can write about how I build the seats, actually, I have already done th= at. I can write about how I built the canopy, actually, I have already done that. If anyone is interested in that sort of thing in KR Online, I can take that information, beef it up, pick out some pictures and send it to Mark as an article.=0D =0D I will be glad to do this, but all you get is the experience of what work= ed and what did not.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:41:04 AM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: RE: KR> February KROnline=0D =0D I would be interested in everything that Phil asked for.=0D I would also be interested in writing; unfortunately, I just got my garag= e =0D ravaged KR2. It is also my first attempt. so all I have are questions, no= t =0D knowledge.=0D 1. design and fabrication of landing gear leg attachments complete=0D >with fabrication drawings that others have used.=0D >2. design and fabrication of nose wheel leg assemblies.=0D >3. design, fabrication and installation of aluminum wing tanks=0D >4. details of various seat configurations including 3-D contoured=0D >bucket seats, 2-D contour (the common type), flat board and canvas=0D >5. sliding canopy arrangements including discussion of the air loads=0D >on canopies=0D >6. discussion of push-rod control systems vs cable and pulley systems=0D >7. discussion of relative merits of spoilers vs flaps and their=0D >effects on stall speed, descent angle, controllability etc=0D >8. discussion of the effects of vertical stabiliser area on stability,=0D >controllability, spin resistance, drag etc=0D >9. as above for horizontal stabiliser=0D >10. discussion of options for attachment of seat belts=0D >=0D >There must be lots more.=0D >=0D >How about it guys?=0D >=0D >Phil Maley=0D >Perth Australia=0D =0D Larry Severson=0D Fountain Valley, CA 92708=0D (714) 968-9852=0D larry2@socal.rr.com=0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_JBT1G6G0000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:54:40 -0600 To: , "Mark Langford" From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> February KROnline Message-ID: <000901c2df95$85c952c0$6501a8c0@Administration> Thanks Mark, Jim and Richard. Good work. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "krnet" Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:27 PM Subject: KR> February KROnline > The February issue of KROnline is "published", and located at > http://www.krnet.org/kronline/feb2003/ . Thanks to Jim and Richard for > spending the time to write these articles. > > I asked for article submissions for the March issue about 6 weeks ago, and > have received none, nada, zip. Unless there's a huge turn-around in support > for the KROnline concept, this will be the last one that I bother with. So > much for all those loud calls to keep the Newsletter going! And Don thinks > Larry killed the Newsletter. Nope. KRNetters killed it, first by > unsubscribing, and second by not supporting it with submissions. I thought > if I revived it I'd be able to muster enough support to keep an Online > version going. I was wrong... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:21:04 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: Re: Re: Re: KR> N4DD Message-ID: <3707949.1046463381823.JavaMail.nobody@huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> I called them and asked. They said that they have on occasion bought aircraft that they needed, but generally only take donations. They said that they would probably not want to buy N4DD. Oh well. -------Original Message------- From: JEAN VERON Sent: 02/28/03 07:10 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD > > NO, I think that they take donations but I don't think they buy anything.Unfortunatly I need cash to support a C-150 that is not paying its own way. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD > That plane is a piece of homebuilding history. Have you contacted the EAA museum to see if they will buy it? > > -------Original Message------- > From: JEAN VERON > Sent: 02/25/03 12:18 PM > To: KRNet > Subject: Re: KR> N4DD > > > > > N4DD was built by Dan Diehl in 1976. I converted it to Cont. O-200 power > about 2 years ago. It has about 40 hours on it since rebuild. New crank, mags > and bearings. Icom A-200 comm., ARC transponder,AmeriKing encoder, > Flightcom intercom, wired for handheld GPS and ELT. Aircraft is located at R.L. > Jones Riverside Airport in Jenks, OK (a suburb of Tulsa). Asking $12,500. > Sorry to use KRNet space for this but Fran did not send me his address. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fran Giroux > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:00 PM > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: Re: KR> Robert Cringley > > I am looking for a KR2. What is the story on N4DD? > > Fran > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JEAN VERON" > To: "KRNet" > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:19 PM > Subject: KR> Robert Cringley > > > I am sorry to have to use the net but I have lost Mr. Cringleys E-mail > address. The fellow that was going to buy N4DD has not responded so if you > are still interested contact me direct. > Thanks > Jean > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at href="http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp">http://www.maddyhome.com/kr srch/index.jsp > or href="http://www.bouyea.net/">http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:27:42 -0600 To: From: "JEAN VERON" Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD Message-ID: The 150 is supposed to be a business. But since 9-11 it hasn't even paid its own way. Rental & instruction. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin" To: Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD > Your chooseing a Cessna 150 over a KR?? Why? > > Justin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JEAN VERON" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:10 PM > Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD > > > > NO, I think that they take donations but I don't think they buy > > anything.Unfortunatly I need cash to support a C-150 that is not paying > its > > own way. > > Jean > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brian Kraut" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:38 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD > > > > > > > That plane is a piece of homebuilding history. Have you contacted the > EAA > > museum to see if they will buy it? > > > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > From: JEAN VERON > > > Sent: 02/25/03 12:18 PM > > > To: KRNet > > > Subject: Re: KR> N4DD > > > > > > > > > > > N4DD was built by Dan Diehl in 1976. I converted it to Cont. O-200 > power > > > about 2 years ago. It has about 40 hours on it since rebuild. New crank, > > mags > > > and bearings. Icom A-200 comm., ARC transponder,AmeriKing encoder, > > > Flightcom intercom, wired for handheld GPS and ELT. Aircraft is located > at > > R.L. > > > Jones Riverside Airport in Jenks, OK (a suburb of Tulsa). Asking > $12,500. > > > Sorry to use KRNet space for this but Fran did not send me his address. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Fran Giroux > > > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:00 PM > > > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org > > > Subject: Re: KR> Robert Cringley > > > > > > I am looking for a KR2. What is the story on N4DD? > > > > > > Fran > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "JEAN VERON" > > > To: "KRNet" > > > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:19 PM > > > Subject: KR> Robert Cringley > > > > > > > > > I am sorry to have to use the net but I have lost Mr. Cringleys E-mail > > > address. The fellow that was going to buy N4DD has not responded so if > you > > > are still interested contact me direct. > > > Thanks > > > Jean > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at > > > > > href="http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp">http://www.maddyhome.com/kr > > srch/index.jsp > > > or > > href="http://www.bouyea.net/">http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word > > files > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 20:47:40 -0600 To: From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> EAA and the KR Message-ID: <001001c2ded3$c2b62d60$6501a8c0@Administration> Thanks for taking the on. I will contribute. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR-Net" Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:19 PM Subject: KR> EAA and the KR I am going to compile all of the responses I get concerning my proposal and will let everyone know the results next weekend. I feel one week will give me enough time to determine if this is worth pursuing. So far I have two responses. One for a monetary donation (very generous I might add) and the other for materials for a plaque. From all the displays I have seen at EAA, I would think they would be looking for a monetary donation and they would design the display to complement all the rest in the museum. This proposal to the EAA will take some time and if we decide to propose it to the EAA, all monies would be held in an escrow account until final. Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 13:04:43 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> REFINISHING MY WINGS Message-Id: <3E5FCEEB.00000F.01052@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_VJE1SPT1VA4000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Friday, February 28, 2003 05:58:15 AM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> REFINISHING MY WINGS=0D =0D Dan,=0D You may wish to apply lite coat of prime then use a sealer before applyin= g the finish coats.=0D =0D KRRon=0D =0D =0D =0D ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------=0D From: "Dan Heath" =0D Reply-To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 06:23:42 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)=0D =0D >Darren,=0D =0D >=0D =0D >I am going to have to re-do the outboard wings for our plane. They were=0D >done with Dupont Centari and the person who did it, did a very poor job.= =0D =0D >=0D =0D >I will wet sand it down with 100 to get off the runs, then go to 220 to = get=0D >it smooth. I will then wet sand it with 400 and apply paint. I am leavin= g=0D >open the option of applying primer between the 220 and 400, which I may = do,=0D >because I am now using PPG Acrylic enamel.=0D =0D > =0D =0D >N64KR=0D =0D > =0D =0D >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D > =0D =0D >DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D > =0D =0D >See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D > =0D =0D >See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D =0D >See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D > =0D =0D >-------Original Message-------=0D =0D > =0D =0D >From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D =0D >Date: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 05:27:05 PM=0D =0D >To: krnet=0D =0D >Subject: KR> REFINISHING MY WINGS=0D =0D > =0D =0D >Hi All=0D =0D >I'm refinishing my wings. No idea what paint is on them now but with the= =0D >hanger rash on them I need to go for the new finish. What grit paper sho= uld=0D >I finish off with before calling it good enough to paint. Not looking to= =0D >make grand champion on this bird. =0D =0D >Darren Pond=0D >=0D =0D --=0D Ronald R. Eason Sr.=0D Pres. & CEO, KCMO Office=0D J.R.L. Engineering Consortium Ltd.=0D 816-468-4091, Kansas City, MO. =0D Jim Eason V.P, 770-446-1291, Atlanta, Georgia=0D Web Page: www.jrl-engineering.com=0D =0D --=0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_VJE1SPT1VA4000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 23:04:34 -0500 To: Steve Glover , krnet From: Brian Kraut Subject: Re: KR> REFINISHING MY WINGS Message-ID: <3E603152.9@earthlink.net> Never thought of that one, but it sounds like it would work good. I assume you held the blade somewhat perpinducalar to the surface and just scraped it along? I have a triangular metal deburring tool with sharp corners. I just went out and tried it on my cowling. From the result I got on the small section I did it looks like 6 hours for the whole plane is about right. Don't even need to wear a dust mask. Ahh, the things we learn after we have already done it the hard way. I am copying this to the list so hopefully the next poor fool doesn't have to spend two weeks worth of nights sanding. Steve Glover wrote: >I stripped my whole plane in about 6 hours with a razor blade. I learned >this from the EZ guys for refinishing the Long and Vari's. It worked pretty >well. I probably went through 50 razor blades though. > >Regards, >Steve Glover > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Kraut" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:22 PM >Subject: Re: KR> REFINISHING MY WINGS > > >>I got a good finish with 220. Since you don't know what kind of paint >>is on there now I would use the recommended primer for the paint you are >>using instead of putting the new paint right over the old. I had the >>same problem with mine and I decided to sand all the old paint off first >>trying to keep as much of the black carbon based UV blocking primer >>intact then putting a few coats Smooth Prime over that. >> >>That turned out to be a whole lot more work than I bargained for. I >>used 50 grit sandpaper to start on a random orbit pneumatic sander and a >>huge rented compressor because the sander needed so much air. I >>probably had 40 hours into sanding with the 50 grit just to get the old >>paint off. >> >>I swear the guy who built the plane mixed diamond dust into the original >>paint. I tried every kind of sandpaper I could get and even a wire >>brush on a Makita disk grinder. I was like sanding glass with a soft >>rag. As soon as I finished sanding all the old paint off I found a note >>scribbled on the back of a manual I got with the plat that said what the >>paint was. >> >>Darren & Christine Pond wrote: >> >>>Hi All >>>I'm refinishing my wings. No idea what paint is on them now but with the >>> >hanger rash on them I need to go for the new finish. What grit paper should >I finish off with before calling it good enough to paint. Not looking to >make grand champion on this bird. > >>>Darren Pond >>> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >>To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >>See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >>or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 21:40:15 -0800 To: , From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: Re: KR> REFINISHING MY WINGS Message-ID: <001601c2dfb5$0ae5c460$0101a8c0@pavilion> Try using a cabinet scraper. It is a 3'x6" piece of steel that you "burnish"(a slight hook created by running it across a special sharpener) this makes it much smoother and efficient to use. Scraper and burnisher tool less than 30 bucks at a woodworkers store. It'll last forever, and when it gets dull,you just run it across the burnisher to refresh it. It is somewhat flexible as well for gently curved surfaces. Works great for smoothing cured 'glass too. Jim Sporka----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: "Steve Glover" ; "krnet" Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 8:04 PM Subject: Re: KR> REFINISHING MY WINGS > Never thought of that one, but it sounds like it would work good. I > assume you held the blade somewhat perpinducalar to the surface and just > scraped it along? I have a triangular metal deburring tool with sharp > corners. I just went out and tried it on my cowling. From the result I > got on the small section I did it looks like 6 hours for the whole plane > is about right. Don't even need to wear a dust mask. > > Ahh, the things we learn after we have already done it the hard way. I > am copying this to the list so hopefully the next poor fool doesn't have > to spend two weeks worth of nights sanding. > > Steve Glover wrote: > > >I stripped my whole plane in about 6 hours with a razor blade. I learned > >this from the EZ guys for refinishing the Long and Vari's. It worked pretty > >well. I probably went through 50 razor blades though. > > > >Regards, > >Steve Glover > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Brian Kraut" > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:22 PM > >Subject: Re: KR> REFINISHING MY WINGS > > > > > >>I got a good finish with 220. Since you don't know what kind of paint > >>is on there now I would use the recommended primer for the paint you are > >>using instead of putting the new paint right over the old. I had the > >>same problem with mine and I decided to sand all the old paint off first > >>trying to keep as much of the black carbon based UV blocking primer > >>intact then putting a few coats Smooth Prime over that. > >> > >>That turned out to be a whole lot more work than I bargained for. I > >>used 50 grit sandpaper to start on a random orbit pneumatic sander and a > >>huge rented compressor because the sander needed so much air. I > >>probably had 40 hours into sanding with the 50 grit just to get the old > >>paint off. > >> > >>I swear the guy who built the plane mixed diamond dust into the original > >>paint. I tried every kind of sandpaper I could get and even a wire > >>brush on a Makita disk grinder. I was like sanding glass with a soft > >>rag. As soon as I finished sanding all the old paint off I found a note > >>scribbled on the back of a manual I got with the plat that said what the > >>paint was. > >> > >>Darren & Christine Pond wrote: > >> > >>>Hi All > >>>I'm refinishing my wings. No idea what paint is on them now but with the > >>> > >hanger rash on them I need to go for the new finish. What grit paper should > >I finish off with before calling it good enough to paint. Not looking to > >make grand champion on this bird. > > > >>>Darren Pond > >>> > >> > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >> > >>To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >>For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >> > >>See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >>or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 19:03:25 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> light weight transponders Message-ID: <54.b8874fc.2b9152cd@aol.com> --part1_54.b8874fc.2b9152cd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/26/2003 9:12:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, kr2jm@d-web.com writes: > C transponder is required If you can't find or afford one of the small round transponders, I recommend you buy an AT50A. They have been around for years and they are always in Trade A Plane for around $550. All you then need is an ACK encoder and you are all set for the controlled air space. Besides in aviation electronics the terms small and cheap don't often come in the same package. I always fly controlled air space. AviationMech KR-2 N110LR 1984 to Present www.members.aol.com:/aviationmech --part1_54.b8874fc.2b9152cd_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:31:58 -0600 To: From: "Phil Payne" Subject: Re: KR> light weight transponders Message-ID: <017501c2df89$fbae1a40$b1cc44c6@oemcomputer> That's what I have done except I haven't installed the transponder yet. I don't know enough to do the wiring and haven't decided if a tray is really required or it can be installed without a tray. If someone knows enough about putting together a working transponder system from separate components, that would be a great article. Phil Payne N39PP ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:03 PM Subject: Re: KR> light weight transponders > In a message dated 2/26/2003 9:12:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, > kr2jm@d-web.com writes: > > > C transponder is required > > If you can't find or afford one of the small round transponders, I recommend > you buy an AT50A. They have been around for years and they are always in > Trade A Plane for around $550. All you then need is an ACK encoder and you > are all set for the controlled air space. Besides in aviation electronics > the terms small and cheap don't often come in the same package. I always fly > controlled air space. > AviationMech > KR-2 N110LR > 1984 to Present > www.members.aol.com:/aviationmech > ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************