From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 2 Mar 2003 04:31:22 -0000 Issue 645 Date: Saturday, March 01, 2003 9:31 PM krnet Digest 2 Mar 2003 04:31:22 -0000 Issue 645 Topics (messages 15487 through 15516): cowling 15487 by: USAFWalker.aol.com 15505 by: Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff 15506 by: Mark Langford 15507 by: JEAN VERON 15513 by: Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff Re: EAA and the KR 15488 by: Phillip Matheson OKUME PLYWOOD 15489 by: Justin 15497 by: jim . synergy design Landing gear 15490 by: Justin 15492 by: Mark Jones 15509 by: Phillip Matheson 15515 by: AviationMech.aol.com Re: transponder 15491 by: Serge Vidal Re: parking the KR2 over night(s) 15493 by: Bobby Muse 15495 by: Rick Wilson 15496 by: Bobby Muse 15498 by: larry severson 15499 by: Mark Jones 15500 by: Mark Langford Re: N4DD 15494 by: JEAN VERON Web Page Update 15501 by: Mark Jones 15502 by: Robert Stone 15503 by: Mark Langford 15504 by: Mark Jones 15508 by: Robert Stone 15511 by: Phillip Matheson Les Palmer 15510 by: Timboyer2.wmconnect.com 15512 by: Ronevogt.aol.com Re: THANKS RV 15514 by: Timboyer2.wmconnect.com dual stick setup 15516 by: Mark Langford Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 23:46:32 EST To: krnet@mailinglists.org From: USAFWalker@aol.com Subject: cowling Message-ID: <10d.209addb3.2b919528@aol.com> --part1_10d.209addb3.2b919528_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have a cowling laying around they would like to sell? Let me know at usafwalker@aol.com Thanks Dan --part1_10d.209addb3.2b919528_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:37:06 -0800 To: "Krnet" From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: Cowling Message-ID: <007701c2e032$56305570$b3ac2804@home> ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01C2DFEF.44FBB6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone tell me if a KR2S cowling can be fitted to a KR2 firewall ? I = have a KR2 which I started before the S supplement was out, but was told = by Rand to lengthen to what turned out to be the KR2S length. I bought = the KR2S supplement plans later after they published them. The 2S I have = is SN# 542 and I have KR2 # 7427 book #67 or 77. I also have an earlier = set which I got around 1984 which is SN # 7169 book # 65. I know the = firewall I have is narrower, but was wondering if the pre-molded 2S = cowling is flexible enough to make it conform to the smaller firewall. Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA email: c.midkiff@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_0074_01C2DFEF.44FBB6C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 15:22:25 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Cowling Message-ID: <021501c2e038$a7e09960$1202a8c0@basement> Bud Midkiff wrote: >Can anyone tell me if a KR2S cowling can be fitted to a KR2 firewall ? I don't know how flexible an RR cowling is, but if it's made the way they made the KR2 cowling, it's pretty flexible indeed. And since all the curves except the bottom corners are gentle, I would bet that it would conform just fine. In fact, it'll hang over at the bottom 3 or 4 inches, and you'll have a ready made exhaust vent for both exhaust and engine cooling air, like I intentionally designed into mine (see the top photo at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford . If it hung over too much, you could cut out a pizza slice and "take it up" at the bottom to make it the size you want. I'd much rather try to put a KR2S cowling on a KR2, than the other way around! Unless somebody replies that it's made up with a foam or honeycomb core and is pretty stiff, I'd try it... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:47:21 -0600 To: From: "JEAN VERON" Subject: Re: KR> Cowling Message-ID: The KR-2S cowling that Dan Diehl sells will not. I know because I built the mold for him. I put the -2S firewall on N4DD and faired it in to the fuselage with foam when I put the O-200 in it for extra room in the engine compartment. It also eliminated those cheeks. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" To: "Krnet" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: KR> Cowling Can anyone tell me if a KR2S cowling can be fitted to a KR2 firewall ? I have a KR2 which I started before the S supplement was out, but was told by Rand to lengthen to what turned out to be the KR2S length. I bought the KR2S supplement plans later after they published them. The 2S I have is SN# 542 and I have KR2 # 7427 book #67 or 77. I also have an earlier set which I got around 1984 which is SN # 7169 book # 65. I know the firewall I have is narrower, but was wondering if the pre-molded 2S cowling is flexible enough to make it conform to the smaller firewall. Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA email: c.midkiff@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 17:07:14 -0800 To: From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: Re: KR> Cowling Message-ID: <002601c2e058$113030f0$b3ac2804@home> Thanks Mark & Jean for the responses ! I put a call in to Jennette to see how her's are, but haven't heard back from her yet. Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA email: c.midkiff@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 1:22 PM Subject: Re: KR> Cowling > Bud Midkiff wrote: > > >Can anyone tell me if a KR2S cowling can be fitted to a KR2 firewall ? > > I don't know how flexible an RR cowling is, but if it's made the way they > made the KR2 cowling, it's pretty flexible indeed. And since all the curves > except the bottom corners are gentle, I would bet that it would conform just > fine. In fact, it'll hang over at the bottom 3 or 4 inches, and you'll have > a ready made exhaust vent for both exhaust and engine cooling air, like I > intentionally designed into mine (see the top photo at > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford . If it hung over too much, you could cut > out a pizza slice and "take it up" at the bottom to make it the size you > want. I'd much rather try to put a KR2S cowling on a KR2, than the other > way around! > > Unless somebody replies that it's made up with a foam or honeycomb core and > is pretty stiff, I'd try it... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:43:24 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> EAA and the KR Message-ID: <003201c2dfc6$b0e1c560$cc96dccb@Matheson> Mark, I may be in Australia, but what a great idea, I'm not sure what I can go. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 See our engines at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR-Net" Sent: 28 February 2003 13:19 Subject: KR> EAA and the KR I am going to compile all of the responses I get concerning my proposal and will let everyone know the results next weekend. I feel one week will give me enough time to determine if this is worth pursuing. So far I have two responses. One for a monetary donation (very generous I might add) and the other for materials for a plaque. From all the displays I have seen at EAA, I would think they would be looking for a monetary donation and they would design the display to complement all the rest in the museum. This proposal to the EAA will take some time and if we decide to propose it to the EAA, all monies would be held in an escrow account until final. Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 00:34:41 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: OKUME PLYWOOD Message-ID: <000801c2dfbc$a3a720c0$dcda1818@computer> ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2DF8A.58F11270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know anythign about this plywood. It is sold from spruce. Is = it ok to use on the KR for sheeting the outsides of the fuselage? It is = aircraft wood but why so much cheaper? Basswood is $79.50 for the same = size wood when this stuff if $39.50. Catch??? Justin KR2S Installing final crossmembers and tail-post ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2DF8A.58F11270-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 11:05:50 -0800 To: From: "jim @ synergy design" Subject: Re: KR> OKUME PLYWOOD Message-ID: <002501c2e025$944d4960$0101a8c0@pavilion> Justin, The okume ply is not as strong(a little softer wood) as the birch or mahogany(basswood core). Also the birch/mahogany ply is 3 equal thicknesses of laminations, where the okume has a 1.3 mm(.051",just under 1/16") face veneers. That would leave .023" for the core material(unknown?), this would probably make it easier to bend, I think they use this for wing skins on the Rihn One Design, They may be able to give you more on the specific strengths. Personally, I would use the 3/32 birch. I recall there are 3 4x8 sheets. ASS price 266.25, the okume is 107.10,= @159 difference. The birch is slightly heavier than the mahogany, but stronger as well.. Note that on your spar plans it calls out for BIRCH ply ,grain running VERTICALLY both faces. RR specifically used Birch instead of Mahogany for the extra strength( I asked them personally). Sorry this was so long, Hope it helps, Jim Sporka P.S. I sometimes use 5/8"Okume(13 alternating laminations inc. face veneers) ply for low end cabinet drawers. It is noticeably more flexible than 1/2" birch ply(9 equal laminations).food for thought. --- Original Message ----- From: "Justin" To: Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:34 PM Subject: KR> OKUME PLYWOOD Does anyone know anythign about this plywood. It is sold from spruce. Is it ok to use on the KR for sheeting the outsides of the fuselage? It is aircraft wood but why so much cheaper? Basswood is $79.50 for the same size wood when this stuff if $39.50. Catch??? Justin KR2S Installing final crossmembers and tail-post ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 00:41:23 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: Landing gear Message-ID: <001c01c2dfbd$9364b960$dcda1818@computer> ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C2DF8B.48B4ECA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Im getting close to the time of ordering my landing gear. I want to = make the right decion on which to choose. Just from what I have read = about the Dan Deil gear is great but allows very little prop clearence. = The grove gear allows 2" more then the Deil gear. With this extra gear = hanging out whats that doing as far as drag. Prop clearance and the Corvair; (which I plan to run) can swing a = bigger prop than a VW can. Correct me if im wrong but the bigger the = prop the more bite you can get with less pitch, which woudl be positive = thing for speed? Any suggestions or commets on what gear to use for a Corvair powered = KR2S. Justin ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C2DF8B.48B4ECA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 07:24:54 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Landing gear Message-ID: <001601c2dff5$f2560360$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Justin, Take a look at my plane in my web site below. I am using the Diehl tri-gear. From the center of the prop to the ground, I have a clearance of 38 inches. I also have the Corvair engine. Now, I swing a pretty big prop. Right now it is 54 inches but by the time I take to the air, I will have a 60 inch prop. I could actually go bigger if I deemed necessary. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin" To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:41 AM Subject: KR> Landing gear Im getting close to the time of ordering my landing gear. I want to make the right decion on which to choose. Just from what I have read about the Dan Deil gear is great but allows very little prop clearence. The grove gear allows 2" more then the Deil gear. With this extra gear hanging out whats that doing as far as drag. Prop clearance and the Corvair; (which I plan to run) can swing a bigger prop than a VW can. Correct me if im wrong but the bigger the prop the more bite you can get with less pitch, which woudl be positive thing for speed? Any suggestions or commets on what gear to use for a Corvair powered KR2S. Justin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 10:59:52 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Landing gear Message-ID: <000f01c2e04e$a9e938a0$0100a8c0@barry> Austin. I am no expert, I do not know about the Grove gear, But I have the Tri. Deihl gear, I will be using a rear drive , geared reduction VW, 63" 3 Blade prop, I intend extending the bracket on the end of the main leg to get a few more inches of clearance, The new front strut comes longer, and is says in the instructions to shorten it , but I will not do that. But until I have my engine and prop, I can only guess. So I'll have to wait till I get them. to be shore. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com www.homebuilt-aviation.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 21:04:34 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: AviationMech@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Landing gear Message-ID: <17d.17d48385.2b92c0b2@aol.com> --part1_17d.17d48385.2b92c0b2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/1/2003 3:41:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmw116@socal.rr.com writes: > ordering my landing gear. On N110LR I converted from the original retract to the Rand gear. I highly recommend this gear AviationMech KR-2 N110LR 1984 to Present www.members.aol.com:/aviationmech --part1_17d.17d48385.2b92c0b2_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 11:27:14 +0200 To: , From: "Serge Vidal" Subject: RE: KR> transponder Message-ID: <002901c2dfd4$d8ceaf80$dff721c4@sergevidal12> When I bought ZS-WEC, it already had a transponder. That is an old Bendix model (I think it is a KT-76). This thing is as huge as it is antiquated, and due to lack of depth behind the instrument panel, the original cleverly put it against the left hand wall, near the pilot's knee. I later inverted the bracket, because as it was, I could not read the figures. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Johannesburg, South Africa -----Original Message----- From: Brian Kraut [mailto:engalt@earthlink.net] Sent: 27 February 2003 03:38 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> transponder The FARs say you need to be able to speak and understand the English language, but there is no mention of having good grammer so I guess you are safe! To answer your question, Becker Avionics makes a nice small transponder that fits in a round instrument hole. It is a little pricey, and it hasn't been around that long so you are not likely to find a good deal on a used one yet, but it is ideal for a KR. http://www.becker-avionics.com/product/index.htm I think Aircraft Spruce sell them in the U.S. www.aircraftspruce.com Flymaca711689@aol.com wrote: >Dam bust my chops. > What I meant was without a transponder your going to have company >and that it scared me just the thought of his vortices ripping me a part. >IM getting a transponder and I read the notoms at each flight !!! > > > >bad grammar Mac >(flying) kr2 n1055a > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:42:28 -0600 To: From: "Bobby Muse" Subject: Re: KR> parking the KR2 over night(s) Message-ID: <013201c2e000$eec67300$1b053fd1@computer> What you describe is exactly what I did. My canopy is a single gullwing door and a removable forward deck/tank(18 gallons). All around the door which has a small lip on the sides and top frame with the top longeron on the bottom , I used a peel and stick weather-stripping from the Home Depot. My removable forward deck/tank has a overlap lip on all four sides to keep the water out. The lip just forward of the windshield has a 1/4" rain grove to catch any water and direct it away from the inside. With the all-around lip, a tight fit and a very thin piece of weather-stripping where needed, you should be A.O.K.. Bobby Muse(N122B) Wimberley, TX ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 02:21 AM Subject: KR> parking the KR2 over night(s) > > Has anyone tried using weatherstripping? They make various thickness of > weatherstripping that could be appied to the bottom of the canopy frame. I > have noticed on most peoples canopy frames that they are not all that thick > and could glue and good size strip onto the frame. And for anyone who has a > removable forward deck/ fuel tank or luggage then you can always make a lip > on the tank/luggage that overlaps the deck in front of the compartment and > use strip foam that has adhesive on one side and put that on the compartment > half. I have played with the idea and did some tests on these ideas with my > friend and we have had great results. We plan on making the forward deck a > fuel cell and we use a 1/2 inch one sided sticky foam around the tank to keep > water out. we used automotive weatherstripping that we picked up from a local > shop that is a 3/8 inch thick channel strip. How we did it was we made a 1/2 > deep lips inside the cockpit than put the channel strip over the lip giving > us a good tight fit when the canopy is colsed. Anyone else done this before > or given thought to it? > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:44:52 -0800 (PST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Rick Wilson Subject: Re: KR> parking the KR2 over night(s) Message-ID: <20030301164452.82678.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> Bobby, What did you use for the windshield for your KR2? I was told it was cut from a standard kr2 canopy. Also what are your side glasses made from? Thanks, Rick Wilson. --- Bobby Muse wrote: > What you describe is exactly what I did. > > My canopy is a single gullwing door and a removable > forward deck/tank(18 > gallons). All around the door which has a small lip > on the sides and top > frame with the top longeron on the bottom , I used a > peel and stick > weather-stripping from the Home Depot. My removable > forward deck/tank has a > overlap lip on all four sides to keep the water out. > The lip just forward > of the windshield has a 1/4" rain grove to catch any > water and direct it > away from the inside. With the all-around lip, a > tight fit and a very thin > piece of weather-stripping where needed, you should > be A.O.K.. > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > Wimberley, TX > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 02:21 AM > Subject: KR> parking the KR2 over night(s) > > > > > > Has anyone tried using weatherstripping? They make > various thickness of > > weatherstripping that could be appied to the > bottom of the canopy frame. I > > have noticed on most peoples canopy frames that > they are not all that > thick > > and could glue and good size strip onto the frame. > And for anyone who has > a > > removable forward deck/ fuel tank or luggage then > you can always make a > lip > > on the tank/luggage that overlaps the deck in > front of the compartment and > > use strip foam that has adhesive on one side and > put that on the > compartment > > half. I have played with the idea and did some > tests on these ideas with > my > > friend and we have had great results. We plan on > making the forward deck a > > fuel cell and we use a 1/2 inch one sided sticky > foam around the tank to > keep > > water out. we used automotive weatherstripping > that we picked up from a > local > > shop that is a 3/8 inch thick channel strip. How > we did it was we made a > 1/2 > > deep lips inside the cockpit than put the channel > strip over the lip > giving > > us a good tight fit when the canopy is colsed. > Anyone else done this > before > > or given thought to it? > > > > > > > have a roll of body shop > > predicted I can tape up the > > not a problem. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , > NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: > krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 11:17:25 -0600 To: From: "Bobby Muse" Subject: Re: KR> parking the KR2 over night(s) Message-ID: <001901c2e016$8da68cc0$12053fd1@computer> To answer your question, the windshield and the side window are all Plexiglas from the same bubble canopy. Actually, my canopy was cut from a Super KR canopy that purchased as a full bubble from Applied Plastic(Ohio). It is the same as a regular KR canopy which is cut in half to make two KR canopies. The Super KR canopy is about three inches higher than a standard KR canopy. Because I had the full bubble, I was able adjust(cut, test, rotate, mark, cut, etc.) the canopy until I had it positioned where I wanted it. I determined where the rear of the canopy was and cut off the excess. The canopy was then being held in place by clamps and shims. I was able to get in the airplane and with pieces of cardboard, determine the shape of the canopy support frames. I removed the canopy, built the support frames and door frames, including the hinge system with a lot of thought and trial and error. At this time the windshield and side windows are still one piece. After the fit was complete, I bonded the Plexiglas canopy in place. After it dried, I used a dremel tool with a cutoff wheel and cut out the door. Bobby Muse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wilson" To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:44 AM Subject: Re: KR> parking the KR2 over night(s) > Bobby, What did you use for the windshield for your > KR2? I was told it was cut from a standard kr2 canopy. > Also what are your side glasses made from? Thanks, > Rick Wilson. > --- Bobby Muse wrote: > > What you describe is exactly what I did. > > > > My canopy is a single gullwing door and a removable > > forward deck/tank(18 > > gallons). All around the door which has a small lip > > on the sides and top > > frame with the top longeron on the bottom , I used a > > peel and stick > > weather-stripping from the Home Depot. My removable > > forward deck/tank has a > > overlap lip on all four sides to keep the water out. > > The lip just forward > > of the windshield has a 1/4" rain grove to catch any > > water and direct it > > away from the inside. With the all-around lip, a > > tight fit and a very thin > > piece of weather-stripping where needed, you should > > be A.O.K.. > > > > Bobby Muse(N122B) > > Wimberley, TX > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 10:38:58 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: larry severson Subject: Re: KR> parking the KR2 over night(s) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030301103709.00b526e8@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Is anyone flying with a removable front deck? How about combined with the design canopy setup? At 08:42 AM 3/1/2003 -0600, you wrote: >What you describe is exactly what I did. > >My canopy is a single gullwing door and a removable forward deck/tank(18 >gallons). Bobby Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:45:41 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> parking the KR2 over night(s) Message-ID: <005c01c2e022$c2898ee0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Mine is not flying yet but here is what I am doing with my front deck. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/hood.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry severson" To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:38 PM Subject: Re: KR> parking the KR2 over night(s) > Is anyone flying with a removable front deck? How about combined with the > design canopy setup? > > At 08:42 AM 3/1/2003 -0600, you wrote: > >What you describe is exactly what I did. > > > >My canopy is a single gullwing door and a removable forward deck/tank(18 > >gallons). > > Bobby > > > Larry Severson > Fountain Valley, CA 92708 > (714) 968-9852 > larry2@socal.rr.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 12:49:50 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> parking the KR2 over night(s) Message-ID: <01d801c2e023$57412700$1202a8c0@basement> larry severson wrote: > Is anyone flying with a removable front deck? How about combined with the > design canopy setup? Bobby's has been flying for something like 8 years with removable forward deck and canopy that he just described. He detailed the building process in an old Newsletter, which is where I got the idea from. There are some photos of his plane on the www.krnet.org website, under "completed KRs", "Bobby Muse's KR2". Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 08:47:22 -0600 To: "KRNet" From: "JEAN VERON" Subject: Re: Re: Re: KR> N4DD Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2DFCF.2CFDA580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for checking. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Kraut Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:46 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: Re: Re: KR> N4DD I called them and asked. They said that they have on occasion bought air= craft that they needed, but generally only take donations. They said tha= t they would probably not want to buy N4DD. Oh well. -------Original Message------- From: JEAN VERON Sent: 02/28/03 07:10 PM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD > =20 > NO, I think that they take donations but I don't think they buy anything.Unfortunatly I need cash to support a C-150 that is not paying its own way. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD > That plane is a piece of homebuilding history. Have you contacted the EAA museum to see if they will buy it? > > -------Original Message------- > From: JEAN VERON > Sent: 02/25/03 12:18 PM > To: KRNet > Subject: Re: KR> N4DD > > > > > N4DD was built by Dan Diehl in 1976. I converted it to Cont. O-200 power > about 2 years ago. It has about 40 hours on it since rebuild. New crank= , mags > and bearings. Icom A-200 comm., ARC transponder,AmeriKing encoder, > Flightcom intercom, wired for handheld GPS and ELT. Aircraft is located at R.L. > Jones Riverside Airport in Jenks, OK (a suburb of Tulsa). Asking $12,500. > Sorry to use KRNet space for this but Fran did not send me his address. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fran Giroux > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:00 PM > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org > Subject: Re: KR> Robert Cringley > > I am looking for a KR2. What is the story on N4DD? > > Fran > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JEAN VERON" > To: "KRNet" > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:19 PM > Subject: KR> Robert Cringley > > > I am sorry to have to use the net but I have lost Mr. Cringleys E-mail > address. The fellow that was going to buy N4DD has not responded so if you > are still interested contact me direct. > Thanks > Jean > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at href=3D"http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp">http://www.maddyhome.c= om/kr srch/index.jsp > or href=3D"http://www.bouyea.net/">http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.c= om/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word f= iles > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =20 For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.c= om/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word f= iles > =20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =20 For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C2DFCF.2CFDA580-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 13:22:32 -0600 To: "KR-Net" , "CorVaircraft Net" From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Web Page Update Message-ID: <008701c2e027$e8bc5c00$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C2DFF5.9DE04F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I have just updated my homepage on my web site with a new Main Page = photo and have also posted the new weight as of today. Check it out: = http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C2DFF5.9DE04F20-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:11:13 -0600 To: From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Web Page Update Message-ID: <002301c2e02e$b9b72460$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Mark, On your web site, of the two photo's in the photo of the week, the first one is not there. What is there is a little box in the upper left corner with a red X in it. The second photo with your aircraft upside down is there and I must say you do beautiful work. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR-Net" ; "CorVaircraft Net" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 1:22 PM Subject: KR> Web Page Update Hello all, I have just updated my homepage on my web site with a new Main Page photo and have also posted the new weight as of today. Check it out: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:13:05 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Web Page Update Message-ID: <01ff01c2e02e$f81728e0$1202a8c0@basement> Robert Stone wrote: > On your web site, of the two photo's in the photo of the week, the > first one is not there. What is there is a little box in the upper left > corner with a red X in it. The second photo with your aircraft upside down > is there and I must say you do beautiful work. Right click on the little box with red x and choose "show picture" or "display image" or whatever it is, and I think you'll see it. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 14:16:44 -0600 To: From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Web Page Update Message-ID: <00a301c2e02f$7abd3460$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Thanks Robert. Sometimes when I do not get all the photos on a web site I simply hit refresh and usually they will all appear. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Stone" To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:11 PM Subject: Re: KR> Web Page Update > Mark, > On your web site, of the two photo's in the photo of the week, the > first one is not there. What is there is a little box in the upper left > corner with a red X in it. The second photo with your aircraft upside down > is there and I must say you do beautiful work. > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX > rstone4@hot.rr.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KR-Net" ; "CorVaircraft Net" > > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 1:22 PM > Subject: KR> Web Page Update > > > Hello all, > I have just updated my homepage on my web site with a new Main Page photo > and have also posted the new weight as of today. Check it out: > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 16:52:02 -0600 To: From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Web Page Update Message-ID: <001001c2e045$2fae1be0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Mark Langford, Thanks for the instruction, I still have much to learn on the computer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Re: KR> Web Page Update > Robert Stone wrote: > > > On your web site, of the two photo's in the photo of the week, the > > first one is not there. What is there is a little box in the upper left > > corner with a red X in it. The second photo with your aircraft upside > down > > is there and I must say you do beautiful work. > > Right click on the little box with red x and choose "show picture" or > "display image" or whatever it is, and I think you'll see it. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:28:04 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Web Page Update Message-ID: <002f01c2e052$9cd5e9c0$0100a8c0@barry> Mark, Well done, it is looking good. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines at; www.vw-engines.com www.homebuilt-aviation.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:14:06 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Timboyer2@wmconnect.com Subject: Les Palmer Message-ID: --part1_f4.29d70192.2b92a6ce_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if Les Palmer has a email address and what that might be? He spoke to my wife in Nov of 2002 and asked that we contact him when after we get our KR home from Mich and begin to finish constructing it we got the boat finished and on its gear the wing spars are done and we're waiting on the diel wing skins to arrive she just wanted to let him know. Thanks Tim & Pat --part1_f4.29d70192.2b92a6ce_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 19:58:38 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Ronevogt@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Les Palmer Message-ID: <7b.b67fba6.2b92b13e@aol.com> --part1_7b.b67fba6.2b92b13e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim and Pat; Les does not have email, but he does have a phone number. And that number is....(972) 241-4387. He is currently flying a KR-2s with ej-22. Give him a call. He'd love to hear from you. RV --part1_7b.b67fba6.2b92b13e_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 20:34:37 EST To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Timboyer2@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> THANKS RV Message-ID: --part1_b8.3ad11b40.2b92b9ad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you so much for your help we lost his Ph# from the last time my wife spoke to him he was a big help in the purchasing of our KR project and been wanting to tell him about the KR we got Thanks Again Tim & Pat --part1_b8.3ad11b40.2b92b9ad_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 22:31:48 -0600 To: "krnet" From: "Mark Langford" Subject: dual stick setup Message-ID: <000d01c2e074$a466e4b0$2402a8c0@800Athlon> StickHeads, I've been working on my dual stick mechanism for something like a month (and you wonder why I'm not flying yet), and thought I'd offer the photo at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/03030133m.jpg as proof that I'm getting close to being done with it all. Welds are not pretty, but will definitely work, and more importantly, I did them myself. It's basically a variation of previous designs that have appeared in the Newsletter, but using convenient (and obtainable from Wicks) cross-sections of 4130, and some off-the-shelf parts that simplify construction. The main tube is thinwall 1.25" OD, the angled "risers" are 1", and the rectangular part that constrains lateral movement of the stick is 1"x 1.5". Nuts will be welded top and bottom to act as control stops tomorrow. Washers are welded on to limit side-to-side travel to zero, and nylon "clamp blocks" from McMaster-Carr are used as bearing blocks (they have to be hogged out a tad with a drum sander for clearance). The aluminum clamp in the middle will have the elevator bellcrank welded to it shortly, and will be somewhat adjustable. Tomorrow it will get a coat of Audi silver paint with clearcoat, since I have to paint my wife's new mirror anyway. Somehow a trashcan managed to completely rip its predecessor clean off the car, despite the folding mechanism that's supposed to prevent such things from happening to a $400 heated mirror. Oh, and it was a cop neighbor's trashcan, to boot. Fortunately, I shop the internet junkyards, rather than the stealership, so mine "only" cost a hundred bucks. Right now it all weighs 1 pound, 12 ounces, so I expect it to be right at 2 pounds total with sticks and mounting bolts. The beauty of this system is that the sticks rotate about the axis of the aileron cable, so there is no stretching of the aileron cable when operating the elevator, and therefore no bias of elevator position by aileron cable tension, nor constant needless stretching of the aileron cables. I wonder how many KRs fly "funny" due to the fact that the aileron cables are pulling the elevator to a certain position because of the stock geometry. On the other hand, careful tweaking of the stock system might just bias the system to a centerpoint that would reduce sensitivity a tad, if you're the optimistic type! I'll do a full page with all the details on this later, but some folks had asked what I was up to with the dual stick thing... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************