From: To: Subject: krnet Digest 5 Mar 2003 23:34:39 -0000 Issue 648 Date: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:35 PM krnet Digest 5 Mar 2003 23:34:39 -0000 Issue 648 Topics (messages 15577 through 15606): Re: KR Net, etc. 15577 by: foamhead.ls.net 15583 by: Justin KR for sale 15578 by: ROBERT COOPER Re: Cowling reinforcement 15579 by: Dan Heath 15585 by: Bobby Muse 15586 by: Bobby Muse 15587 by: Anthony Underwood 15588 by: Bobby Muse 15597 by: JIM VANCE Re: KR pilot needed 15580 by: Jim Faughn 15594 by: chris gardiner 15595 by: Brian Kraut Re: I-KRFN Website updated 15581 by: Brian Kraut Re: Control Rods 15582 by: Phillip Matheson Gadget head alert!! 15584 by: Dana Overall Fly in 15589 by: Anthony Underwood Proper spelling 15590 by: Anthony Underwood Re: EAA and the KR 15591 by: Ross Youngblood 15593 by: ROBERT COOPER KR2 Pic 15592 by: foamhead.ls.net Strobe Lights & LED's 15596 by: Phillip Matheson KRs and RVs 15598 by: Mark Langford 15604 by: Brian Kraut 15605 by: Dana Overall Virus or Worm 15599 by: Robert Stone 15600 by: Mark Langford 15601 by: virgnvs.juno.com 15602 by: Ron Freiberger 15603 by: Robert Stone Re: February KROnline 15606 by: John Baker Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 20:46:38 -0500 (EST) To: From: Subject: Re: KR> KR Net, etc. Message-ID: <39889.205.188.209.6.1046742398.squirrel@webmail.ls.net> I do not have a great many skills or a lot of knowledge but if I can be of any help let me know. Bob Farmer 105 Boxer Lane Fries, 24330 bob@foamhead.com 276 744 7115 > Right now I am so disgusted at all the "experts and their opinion" that > if someone wanted to buy my project, I would sell it. Offer a comment, > not an opinion, and get a negative response somehow doesn't seem like > what this should be all about. And while I'm venting, How about you guys > with all the answers signing your e-mails with your name and e-mail > address. Someone might like to know who the Heck you are and respond to > you off-net. Sorry guys, > ED > Ed Blocher > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > eblocher@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 00:42:35 -0600 To: From: "Justin" Subject: Re: KR> KR Net, etc. Message-ID: <001301c2e219$406d9b60$dcda1818@computer> I couldnt agree more ed. So your selling your KR project what is it and how far are you? Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR Net, etc. > I do not have a great many skills or a lot of knowledge but if I can be of > any help let me know. > > Bob Farmer > 105 Boxer Lane > Fries, 24330 > bob@foamhead.com > 276 744 7115 > > > Right now I am so disgusted at all the "experts and their opinion" that > > if someone wanted to buy my project, I would sell it. Offer a comment, > > not an opinion, and get a negative response somehow doesn't seem like > > what this should be all about. And while I'm venting, How about you guys > > with all the answers signing your e-mails with your name and e-mail > > address. Someone might like to know who the Heck you are and respond to > > you off-net. Sorry guys, > > ED > > Ed Blocher > > Santa Rosa Beach, FL > > eblocher@earthlink.net > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:20:12 -0500 To: "krnet" From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: KR for sale Message-ID: ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C2E1CA.ADCAFD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable KR-2 for sale on Banstormers. http://barnstormers2000.com/show_referred_ad.asp?ID=3D99985 Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C2E1CA.ADCAFD00-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:05:45 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) To: From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Cowling reinforcement Message-Id: <3E644239.000001.00424@dan> --------------Boundary-00=_LLN7QL80000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used some LastOFoam for our canopy frame. It is great stuff to work wi= th.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Date: Monday, March 03, 2003 06:39:39 AM=0D To: KRnet@mailinglists.org=0D Subject: Re: KR> Cowling reinforcement=0D =0D JIM VANCE wrote:=0D =0D >Has anyone had experience with using honecomb for stiffening panels?=0D =0D Honeycomb works great with oven-cured prepreg stuff such as RR, Lancair, = and=0D RV "factory" parts, but it's not practical for homebuilders, in my humble= =0D opinion. If you try to lay it up in the conventional manner, the honeycom= b=0D will absorb a lot of the epoxy, making it way too heavy, and potentially=0D starving the glass. I'd stick to Lastofoam for core material, myself...=0D =0D Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL=0D mailto:langford@hiwaay.net=0D see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford=0D =0D =0D ---------------------------------------------------------------------=0D To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all"=0D =0D To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org =0D For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org=0D =0D See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp=0D or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_LLN7QL80000000000000-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 06:59:23 -0600 To: From: "Bobby Muse" Subject: Re: KR> Cowling reinforcement Message-ID: <002d01c2e24d$e21b8a10$1d053fd1@computer> I agree with Scott. But you can add to the process that you also need a vacuum system as well. When I worked for Lockheed on the C5A project, we made mostly large panels using honeycomb/sandwiched construction. It was very light weight. But another simple method of stiffening your composite parts that I learned at Lockheed was to cut a small strip of foam(1/4"x1/4" or 1/2"x1/2"). You place the strip where you need to stiffen and then add one or two layers of glass over the top of the strip. Glassing over the top is made earlier if you sand a taper on both sides and slightly round the top. Bobby Muse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Cable" To: Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 09:43 AM Subject: Re: KR> Cowling reinforcement > > Jim, > Using honeycomb for stiffening your composite panels is a great way to go IF: > 1.) You have a female mold to do your layups in/on. > 2.) You have a controlled environment to work in. > 3.) You have access to radiographic or X-Ray inspection processes. > 4.) autoclave > The biggest problem when using hoeycomb is that the honeycomb tends to absorb the epoxy, either crushes, or cuts the laminate fibers, or moves around during the curing process. > Big aerospace companies that use this stuff have propreitary processes & materials to counteract these tendancies. So unless you have access to these types of facilities, stick to the proven processes outlined on the web and builders manuals. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:19:31 -0600 To: From: "Bobby Muse" Subject: Re: KR> Cowling reinforcement Message-ID: <00c801c2e250$b1eee640$1d053fd1@computer> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Muse" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 06:59 AM Subject: Re: KR> Cowling reinforcement I meant to say "Glassing over the top is made if easier > you sand a taper on both sides and slightly round the top. > > Bobby Muse > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:38:06 -0500 To: "'KRnet@mailinglists.org'" From: Anthony Underwood Subject: RE: KR> Cowling reinforcement Message-ID: <01C2E229.680CC8C0.xbs4fiverivers@xrxgsn.com> Bobby, do you still live in Texas? How can i get in tuch with your dad to invite him to a fly in about an hour or so from where he lives.Anthony Underwood -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Muse [SMTP:bmuse@ev1.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:20 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Cowling reinforcement ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Muse" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 06:59 AM Subject: Re: KR> Cowling reinforcement I meant to say "Glassing over the top is made if easier > you sand a taper on both sides and slightly round the top. > > Bobby Muse > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 07:41:35 -0600 To: From: "Bobby Muse" Cc: "Robert Muse, Sr" Subject: Re: KR> Cowling reinforcement Message-ID: <00f201c2e253$c6e5d830$1d053fd1@computer> Yes, I do live in Texas. My dad can be emailed at bobgladys@worldnet.att.net but the phone # is 770/973-3150. --- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Underwood" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 07:38 AM Subject: RE: KR> Cowling reinforcement > Bobby, do you still live in Texas? How can i get in tuch with your dad to > invite him to a fly in about an hour or so from where he lives.Anthony > Underwood > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 04:58:29 -0600 To: "kr net" From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: Cowling reinforcement Message-ID: <002c01c2e306$28d5bbc0$0200a8c0@oemcomputer> ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C2E2D3.DD504F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Many thanks for all of the excellent replies to my query about using = honeycomb. Building is a learning experience, and I really appreciate = your sharing of your expertise. Jim Vance ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C2E2D3.DD504F80-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:11:35 -0600 To: "KR Net Response" From: "Jim Faughn" Subject: Re: KR> KR pilot needed Message-ID: <000501c2e1fb$c58a20c0$c0476ad8@jfaughn> I'm in St. Louis and the snow is melting now,, we have more on the way in 2 days and again on Sunday. I'm taking my wife on a cruise on Saturday, it's her 50th and she wanted the cruise instead of a party, what's up with her???? Anyway, If you want to look at late March or early April, we will be flying again. Sometimes you can get cheap tickets to St. Louis and believe me that if you are current and your plane isn't aft cg, in an hour or less you will be comfortable in a KR. My plane is ok and I can take a passenger up to about 190 pounds. Jim Faughn N891JF 4323D Laclede Ave. St. Louis, MO 63108 (314)652-7659 Mailto:jfaughn@mvp.net http://members.socket.net/~jfaughn/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 21:57:25 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: chris gardiner Subject: Re: KR> KR pilot needed Message-ID: <3E656795.2080906@attcanada.ca> --------------030103090503090202000905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian, the last number I had for Tom was : 352 214 1509 or 904 462 5362 (cell). Tom was kind enough to give me a ride and a little stick time ( at altitude) which probably helped me survive my first flight in my KR2S. Great guy, very nice KR . Look him up. Regards Chris Gardiner C-GKRZ Brian Kraut wrote: >Someone else suggested him last week to me. I haven't been able to find him. Does anyone have his phone number or email address? > >-------Original Message------- >From: Dana Overall >Sent: 03/03/03 05:48 AM >To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: Re: KR> KR pilot needed > >>Brian, do a search for Tom Crawford. He lives in Gainesville, has a SNF >> >award winning tri gear KR. > > >Dana Overall >Richmond, KY >href="http://rvflying.tripod.com">http://rvflying.tripod.com >do not archive > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >href="http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus">http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at href="http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp">http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or href="http://www.bouyea.net/">http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > --------------030103090503090202000905-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:54:51 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: Re: KR> KR pilot needed Message-ID: <3E65750B.9060201@earthlink.net> I got his home and work number. He is on vacation now so I hope to get him on the phone next week. Two people said he sold his plane, but I will call him just in case. Even if his plane is gone he may be willing to test fly mine and give me some time in it. Thanks for the help. chris gardiner wrote: > Brian, the last number I had for Tom was : 352 214 1509 or 904 462 > 5362 (cell). > > Tom was kind enough to give me a ride and a little stick time ( at > altitude) which probably helped me survive my first flight in my KR2S. > Great guy, very nice KR . > > Look him up. > > Regards > > Chris Gardiner > C-GKRZ > > > Brian Kraut wrote: > >> Someone else suggested him last week to me. I haven't been able to >> find him. Does anyone have his phone number or email address? >> >> -------Original Message------- >> From: Dana Overall >> Sent: 03/03/03 05:48 AM >> To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >> Subject: Re: KR> KR pilot needed >> >>> Brian, do a search for Tom Crawford. He lives in Gainesville, has >>> a SNF >> >> award winning tri gear KR. >> >> >> Dana Overall >> Richmond, KY >> > href="http://rvflying.tripod.com">http://rvflying.tripod.com >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > target=_blank >> href="http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus">http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For >> additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at > href="http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp">http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> >> or > href="http://www.bouyea.net/">http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word >> files >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For >> additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 23:35:28 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Brian Kraut Subject: Re: KR> I-KRFN Website updated Message-ID: <3E642D10.4010100@earthlink.net> Nice job on the whole plane. ROBERT COOPER wrote: >Franco >Very nice job on the speed brake. I like the way it will be flush when not >deployed. >Jack Cooper >mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com >http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 >Fayetteville, NC. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Aripo" >To: "KRnet" >Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:44 AM >Subject: KR> I-KRFN Website updated > > >To all > >Hi netters , I've just updated my website www.negri.cjb.net with new >composite speed brake with bowden actuator and definitive Rotax cowling and >more , new fresh air NACA inlets etc. > >Ciao >Franco Negri >I-KRFN > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:33:23 +1100 To: From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Control Rods Message-ID: <002801c2e20f$93e76f00$0100a8c0@barry> Richard, Yes I'm almost finished making my unit. I did sent a copy of the drawings to Mark Langford. Maybe he can help you with a copy. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines and Home built kits and parts at; www.vw-engines.com www.homebuilt-aviation.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:50:00 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Gadget head alert!! Message-ID: Dynondevelopment.com started taking orders for their EFIS unit yesterday. This is long awaited intro to the solid state EFIS world. Go take a look at what you get for the money and weight savings. Of course you will have the dullest looking, but fully functional, panel out there. Throw in the new Anywhere Map with artificial horizon on an IPAQ, a couple cheap engine instruments, and you're up and running. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 11:50:33 -0500 To: "'KRnet@mailinglists.org'" From: Anthony Underwood Subject: Fly in Message-ID: <01C2E244.47598DA0.xbs4fiverivers@xrxgsn.com> Just in case anyboby is intersted and doesn't live to far away. there will be a very nice fly in at Greenville,Tn.(GCY) May 31 -Jun 1. 6000 + runway.This is a fly in not a air show, that way the FAA doesn't come snooping around. There will be a P-38, P-40, P-47,AT-6, Gruman TBM, F6F Hailcat from the Panes of Fame in Cal. And maby a PBY. If there are any KR's that could come it would be great. The fly in is opean to all airplanes, and it would be nice to get a good turn out of homebuilt's, The war bird's aren't the main atraction, the more general avation and homebuilts the better. Any questions, call me. Anthony Underwood,423-587-0624. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 12:07:13 -0500 To: "'KRnet@mailinglists.org'" From: Anthony Underwood Subject: Proper spelling Message-ID: <01C2E246.99834420.xbs4fiverivers@xrxgsn.com> Please don't send the internet police after me. I'LL CONFESS, I SPELLED HELLCAT wrong, if you want, i'll write it a thousand times, and then resend it a thousand times. Anthony ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 12:08:00 -0800 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org, KRnet@mailinglists.org From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR> EAA and the KR Message-Id: I would contribute $10-20. I think we should get the nifty KRnet logo on the plaque, but any plaque would do. - Ross 2/27/2003 4:25:41 PM, "Mark Jones" wrote: >Actually the EAA has one of the original KR2's. I can not remember the N >number. The plane is located in the FAA pavilion. When you walk in the front >door it is on the right sitting on top of the offices along with a couple >other planes. There is no sign, plaque or any other reference to it. Maybe >we as a KR family should contribute to the cause and donate a plaque to the >EAA and put together a petition to have the plane displayed in the museum >year round. After all Ken Rand was the pioneer of composites and he deserves >the recognition. That way the public can see all year and not just during >AirVenture. What do you guys think? If this sounds like a good idea, I will >be glad to head it up as I go by EAA headquarters in Oshkosh usually twice a >week. Let's discuss this. > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) >Wales, WI USA >E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com >Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "JEAN VERON" >To: >Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:10 PM >Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD > > >> NO, I think that they take donations but I don't think they buy >> anything.Unfortunatly I need cash to support a C-150 that is not paying >its >> own way. >> Jean >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brian Kraut" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:38 AM >> Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD >> >> >> > That plane is a piece of homebuilding history. Have you contacted the >EAA >> museum to see if they will buy it? >> > >> > -------Original Message------- >> > From: JEAN VERON >> > Sent: 02/25/03 12:18 PM >> > To: KRNet >> > Subject: Re: KR> N4DD >> > >> > > >> > > N4DD was built by Dan Diehl in 1976. I converted it to Cont. O-200 >power >> > about 2 years ago. It has about 40 hours on it since rebuild. New crank, >> mags >> > and bearings. Icom A-200 comm., ARC transponder,AmeriKing encoder, >> > Flightcom intercom, wired for handheld GPS and ELT. Aircraft is located >at >> R.L. >> > Jones Riverside Airport in Jenks, OK (a suburb of Tulsa). Asking >$12,500. >> > Sorry to use KRNet space for this but Fran did not send me his address. >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Fran Giroux >> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:00 PM >> > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >> > Subject: Re: KR> Robert Cringley >> > >> > I am looking for a KR2. What is the story on N4DD? >> > >> > Fran >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "JEAN VERON" >> > To: "KRNet" >> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:19 PM >> > Subject: KR> Robert Cringley >> > >> > >> > I am sorry to have to use the net but I have lost Mr. Cringleys E-mail >> > address. The fellow that was going to buy N4DD has not responded so if >you >> > are still interested contact me direct. >> > Thanks >> > Jean >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> > >> > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> > >> > See the KRNet archives at > > >> >href="http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp">http://www.maddyhome.com/kr >> srch/index.jsp >> > or > > href="http://www.bouyea.net/">http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word >> files >> > > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> > >> > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> > >> > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" >> >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org >> >> See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files >> >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > Ross Youngblood http://N541RY.com mailto:rossy65@attbi.com (Home) mailto:ross_youngblood@credence.com (Work) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 21:23:04 -0500 To: , From: "ROBERT COOPER" Subject: Re: KR> EAA and the KR Message-ID: I will also contribute $20.00 Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ross Youngblood" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: Re: KR> EAA and the KR > I would contribute $10-20. > I think we should get the nifty KRnet logo on the plaque, but > any plaque would do. > - Ross > > 2/27/2003 4:25:41 PM, "Mark Jones" wrote: > > >Actually the EAA has one of the original KR2's. I can not remember the N > >number. The plane is located in the FAA pavilion. When you walk in the front > >door it is on the right sitting on top of the offices along with a couple > >other planes. There is no sign, plaque or any other reference to it. Maybe > >we as a KR family should contribute to the cause and donate a plaque to the > >EAA and put together a petition to have the plane displayed in the museum > >year round. After all Ken Rand was the pioneer of composites and he deserves > >the recognition. That way the public can see all year and not just during > >AirVenture. What do you guys think? If this sounds like a good idea, I will > >be glad to head it up as I go by EAA headquarters in Oshkosh usually twice a > >week. Let's discuss this. > > > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) > >Wales, WI USA > >E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > >Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "JEAN VERON" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:10 PM > >Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD > > > > > >> NO, I think that they take donations but I don't think they buy > >> anything.Unfortunatly I need cash to support a C-150 that is not paying > >its > >> own way. > >> Jean > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Brian Kraut" > >> To: > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:38 AM > >> Subject: Re: Re: KR> N4DD > >> > >> > >> > That plane is a piece of homebuilding history. Have you contacted the > >EAA > >> museum to see if they will buy it? > >> > > >> > -------Original Message------- > >> > From: JEAN VERON > >> > Sent: 02/25/03 12:18 PM > >> > To: KRNet > >> > Subject: Re: KR> N4DD > >> > > >> > > > >> > > N4DD was built by Dan Diehl in 1976. I converted it to Cont. O-200 > >power > >> > about 2 years ago. It has about 40 hours on it since rebuild. New crank, > >> mags > >> > and bearings. Icom A-200 comm., ARC transponder,AmeriKing encoder, > >> > Flightcom intercom, wired for handheld GPS and ELT. Aircraft is located > >at > >> R.L. > >> > Jones Riverside Airport in Jenks, OK (a suburb of Tulsa). Asking > >$12,500. > >> > Sorry to use KRNet space for this but Fran did not send me his address. > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: Fran Giroux > >> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 10:00 PM > >> > To: KRnet@mailinglists.org > >> > Subject: Re: KR> Robert Cringley > >> > > >> > I am looking for a KR2. What is the story on N4DD? > >> > > >> > Fran > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "JEAN VERON" > >> > To: "KRNet" > >> > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:19 PM > >> > Subject: KR> Robert Cringley > >> > > >> > > >> > I am sorry to have to use the net but I have lost Mr. Cringleys E-mail > >> > address. The fellow that was going to buy N4DD has not responded so if > >you > >> > are still interested contact me direct. > >> > Thanks > >> > Jean > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >> > > >> > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >> > > >> > See the KRNet archives at >> > > >> > >href="http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp">http://www.maddyhome.com/k r > >> srch/index.jsp > >> > or >> > href="http://www.bouyea.net/">http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word > >> files > >> > > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >> > > >> > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >> > > >> > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >> > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > >> > > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >> > >> To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >> > >> See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >> or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > >> > >> > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > > > > > Ross Youngblood > http://N541RY.com > mailto:rossy65@attbi.com (Home) > mailto:ross_youngblood@credence.com (Work) > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 19:56:38 -0500 (EST) To: From: Subject: KR2 Pic Message-ID: <58891.205.188.209.6.1046825798.squirrel@webmail.ls.net> Louis Staalberg has sent me some pic of his KR2 with retractable tri-gear. Just go to www.foamhead.com and click on the 'builder pages' link to see them. Bob Farmer bob@foamhead.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 16:53:14 +1100 To: "krnet listing" From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Strobe Lights & LED's Message-ID: <016801c2e2db$89ae1e40$0100a8c0@barry> ------=_NextPart_000_0165_01C2E337.B7BFC520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone had a look at these strobes yet. Some look OK to me. http://www.lshlights.bigstep.com/ Click on the strobe lights ? LED on the left of the page. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au 61 3 58833588 NSW Australia. See our VW engines and Home built kits and parts at; www.vw-engines.com www.homebuilt-aviation.com ------=_NextPart_000_0165_01C2E337.B7BFC520-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 06:58:53 -0600 To: From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KRs and RVs Message-ID: <004101c2e316$f9f2f4b0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Mark Jones wrote: > Hey Mark....it's not April 1st....what's up? Are you trying to tell us > something or just trying to scare the heck out of us? Just thinking out loud about the RV10. My wife put me on notice about 5 years ago that we needed a real four-place plane to take the kids on vacations and family get-togethers. Although I've been thinking I'd design a four-passenger Corvair-powered Skymaster-like twin, the realization has set in that it would take at least 10 years to design and build something like that, and I have to finish the KR before I even start thinking about it! While Dana was down here a few weeks ago he clued me in about the upcoming four-place RV-10. I bounced it off the "boss" and she said "what's the holdup?". And while I've been reluctant to let my 9 year old son even touch the KR, I can see him being a real part of building an RV-10. I suspect my 8 year old daughter may be even more help! This is not to say that I'm not still completely committed to KRs and their future, and I have a feeling that me and my KR will be together "'til death do us part", but there's a need for a four-place as long as the kids still live at home, which will probably be another 10-12 years. After that, I could sell the thing for not only what I have in it, but will actually recoupe my building time to the tune of $20-$30 an hour as well. I'd have to sell my KR for $150,000 to be able to say the same about it, but that's not why I built it either. KRs and RVs are two completely different building and flying philosophies. One is a means to create a unique display of your skill, ability, resourcefulness, and perserverence, that can be built with common hand tools in a very small space on a small budget. The end result is a screamin' VFR plane that flies on peanuts and draws a crowd wherever it's parked. The other is quick and easy to build, requires no headscratchin' (just a big checkbook), and comfortably hauls passengers and their baggage, IFR if required. The end result is an aircraft that's exactly like its siblings, with predictable handling, speed, landing qualities, safety record (and thus insurability), and resale value. See http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int.htm for more details. Different strokes for different folks. They both have their place, and I hope to build one of each... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:30:58 -0500 (EST) To: KRnet@mailinglists.org, Mark Langford From: Brian Kraut Subject: Re: KR> KRs and RVs Message-ID: <400777.1046899589312.JavaMail.nobody@bert.psp.pas.earthlink.net> I tried to put a deposit on the RV-10 at Sun-N-Fun last year and they said no way. I emailed them last week and they said they may be ready to take deposits in a few months. They are also supposed to have the cockpit mockup at SNF this year. I have a wife and a son and the KR is to keep me flying for the next few years while I build a four place. I am still wrestling with the idea of doing an RV-10 verses continuing my design on a 4 place with the same general size and performance of a Lancair, but the easy building method of spruce, foam, and glass like the KR. -------Original Message------- From: Mark Langford Sent: 03/05/03 07:58 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: KR> KRs and RVs > > Mark Jones wrote: > Hey Mark....it's not April 1st....what's up? Are you trying to tell us > something or just trying to scare the heck out of us? Just thinking out loud about the RV10. My wife put me on notice about 5 years ago that we needed a real four-place plane to take the kids on vacations and family get-togethers. Although I've been thinking I'd design a four-passenger Corvair-powered Skymaster-like twin, the realization has set in that it would take at least 10 years to design and build something like that, and I have to finish the KR before I even start thinking about it! While Dana was down here a few weeks ago he clued me in about the upcoming four-place RV-10. I bounced it off the "boss" and she said "what's the holdup?". And while I've been reluctant to let my 9 year old son even touch the KR, I can see him being a real part of building an RV-10. I suspect my 8 year old daughter may be even more help! This is not to say that I'm not still completely committed to KRs and their future, and I have a feeling that me and my KR will be together "'til death do us part", but there's a need for a four-place as long as the kids still live at home, which will probably be another 10-12 years. After that, I could sell the thing for not only what I have in it, but will actually recoupe my building time to the tune of $20-$30 an hour as well. I'd have to sell my KR for $150,000 to be able to say the same about it, but that's not why I built it either. KRs and RVs are two completely different building and flying philosophies. One is a means to create a unique display of your skill, ability, resourcefulness, and perserverence, that can be built with common hand tools in a very small space on a small budget. The end result is a screamin' VFR plane that flies on peanuts and draws a crowd wherever it's parked. The other is quick and easy to build, requires no headscratchin' (just a big checkbook), and comfortably hauls passengers and their baggage, IFR if required. The end result is an aircraft that's exactly like its siblings, with predictable handling, speed, landing qualities, safety record (and thus insurability), and resale value. See http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int.htm for more details. Different strokes for different folks. They both have their place, and I hope to build one of each... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:04:52 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> KRs and RVs Message-ID: I know this is not the RV list but several things to consider about a manufactured kit such as the 10. You get all nuts, bolts, rod end bearings, washers, pushrods, rivets, elbows, brakes, canopy, cowl, fairings, nosewheel, rudder pedals, vent line, brake line............well you get the picture. The only things you have to consider (and you can get these from Van's also) are wingtip lights, engine and instruments. For those who think something like this is out of a price range, the 10 is supposed to sell for something like 22K.......for everything to build the airplane!! I don't think you could buy all the parts to design and build your own 4 place for less than the 22K. The 1200 hours to build is realistic also. 10 hours a week.......two years..........20 hours a week......one year. They sell the components so you can pay as you build.....sorry, I mean assemble. If I had the money to have order all the components at the same time, there is not a doubt in my mind I could have my 7 flying in a calender year at 20 hours a week. A 2 place has it's place but this four seater is going to be the real thing. Another thing, when Van's says it's going to be a four seater, it will be plus baggage. You're going to be able to pick up a nice RV-4,6,7,8,9 when he starts selling the 10. Now back to our regular KR programming. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:14:20 -0600 To: From: "Robert Stone" Cc: "KRNet" Subject: Virus or Worm Message-ID: <002701c2e329$e90246c0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C2E2F7.9AE825E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are sending out mail that is contaminated. Here is the alert = notice I got from my server. If you will take notice of paragraph 6 in = the alert notice, I am instructed to inform you of this problem. = Attachments are not permitted on the KRNet and if you continue to attach = material to your e-mails sent to the KRNet you could end up being = removed for non-compliance with the rules. A copy of this entire = message is being sent to the KRNet manager. ALERT!!! This e-mail in its original form contained one or more attached files = that were infected with a virus or worm, or contained another type of = security threat.=20 The following attachments were infected and have been repaired: No attachments are in this category. The following attachments were deleted due to an inability to clean = them: 1. height.pif: W32.Klez.H@mm The Following attachments were not delivered due to inbound mail policy = violations: No attachments are in this category. 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If you will take notice of paragraph 6 in the alert notice, I am instructed to inform you of this problem. Attachments are not permitted on the KRNet and if you continue to attach material to your e-mails sent to the KRNet you could end up being removed for non-compliance with the rules. A copy of this entire message is being sent to the KRNet manager.<< The message didn't come through KRnet, nor was it probably sent by dcda@tpnol.o . In fact, I'll bet you money that dcda@tpnol.o isn't even ON KRNet! (I could check but I'm too lazy). Here's something I posted last August, that still applies... ----------------------------- Pat Driscoll wrote: >>I did not send out any messages to the net. Any ideas?? My first guess would be the KLEZ virus. You probably don't have it as long as you didn't open it. And the funny thing is that the message didn't come from KRnet either. The virus just picks email addresses from the victim's address book and "cloaks" the output to appear as if it came from there, rather than where it actually originated. That way, you notify the sender and the sender almost always says "I don't have it, I'm sure", and he's right. It came to you from somewhere else, with his return address on it. Whoever unknowingly emailed the virus had previously emailed krnet@mailinglists.org , so it was placed automatically in his address book, and became input for this twisted virus! Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Stone" To: Cc: "KRNet" Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:14 AM Subject: KR> Virus or Worm You are sending out mail that is contaminated. Here is the alert notice I got from my server. If you will take notice of paragraph 6 in the alert notice, I am instructed to inform you of this problem. Attachments are not permitted on the KRNet and if you continue to attach material to your e-mails sent to the KRNet you could end up being removed for non-compliance with the rules. A copy of this entire message is being sent to the KRNet manager. ALERT!!! This e-mail in its original form contained one or more attached files that were infected with a virus or worm, or contained another type of security threat. The following attachments were infected and have been repaired: No attachments are in this category. The following attachments were deleted due to an inability to clean them: 1. height.pif: W32.Klez.H@mm The Following attachments were not delivered due to inbound mail policy violations: No attachments are in this category. Road Runner does not contact the sender of the infected attachment(s) in the event that they were not actually sent from the indicated party. Please contact the sender directly to alert them of their issue with infected files if you wish to do so. For more information on Road Runner's virus filtering initiative, visit our Help & Member Services pages at http://help.rr.com, or the virus filtering information page directly at http://help.rr.com/faqs/e_mgsp.html. ------------ Original message text follows ------------ This is a very good tool I wish you would like it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:05:34 -0500 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: virgnvs@juno.com Subject: Re: KR> Virus or Worm Message-ID: <20030305.110636.-488575.1.virgnvs@juno.com> To whom was this intended ? This was not sent from me ! ,Virg On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:14:20 -0600 "Robert Stone" writes: > You are sending out mail that is contaminated. Here is the > alert notice I got from my server. If you will take notice of > paragraph 6 in the alert notice, I am instructed to inform you of > this problem. Attachments are not permitted on the KRNet and if you > continue to attach material to your e-mails sent to the KRNet you > could end up being removed for non-compliance with the rules. A > copy of this entire message is being sent to the KRNet manager. > > > > ALERT!!! > This e-mail in its original form contained one or more attached > files that were infected with a virus or worm, or contained another > type of security threat. > > The following attachments were infected and have been repaired: > No attachments are in this category. > > The following attachments were deleted due to an inability to clean > them: > 1. height.pif: W32.Klez.H@mm > > The Following attachments were not delivered due to inbound mail > policy violations: > No attachments are in this category. > > > Road Runner does not contact the sender of the infected > attachment(s) in the event that they were not actually sent from the > indicated party. > > Please contact the sender directly to alert them of their issue with > infected files if you wish to do so. > > For more information on Road Runner's virus filtering initiative, > visit our Help & Member Services pages at http://help.rr.com, or the > virus filtering information page directly at > http://help.rr.com/faqs/e_mgsp.html. > > ------------ Original message text follows ------------ > > This is a very good tool > I wish you would like it. Virgil N. Salisbury AMSOIL WWW.LUBEDEALER.COM/SALISBURY ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:17:12 -0500 To: From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: RE: KR> Virus or Worm Message-ID: Just yet another case of "reply" becoming "reply to net" because we are taking care of the least ept. (?? Is the coreect, or should I say most inept??) Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: virgnvs@juno.com [mailto:virgnvs@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:06 AM To: KRnet@mailinglists.org Subject: Re: KR> Virus or Worm To whom was this intended ? This was not sent from me ! ,Virg On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:14:20 -0600 "Robert Stone" writes: > You are sending out mail that is contaminated. Here is the > alert notice I got from my server. If you will take notice of > paragraph 6 in the alert notice, I am instructed to inform you of > this problem. Attachments are not permitted on the KRNet and if you > continue to attach material to your e-mails sent to the KRNet you > could end up being removed for non-compliance with the rules. A > copy of this entire message is being sent to the KRNet manager. > > > > ALERT!!! > This e-mail in its original form contained one or more attached > files that were infected with a virus or worm, or contained another > type of security threat. > > The following attachments were infected and have been repaired: > No attachments are in this category. > > The following attachments were deleted due to an inability to clean > them: > 1. height.pif: W32.Klez.H@mm > > The Following attachments were not delivered due to inbound mail > policy violations: > No attachments are in this category. > > > Road Runner does not contact the sender of the infected > attachment(s) in the event that they were not actually sent from the > indicated party. > > Please contact the sender directly to alert them of their issue with > infected files if you wish to do so. > > For more information on Road Runner's virus filtering initiative, > visit our Help & Member Services pages at http://help.rr.com, or the > virus filtering information page directly at > http://help.rr.com/faqs/e_mgsp.html. > > ------------ Original message text follows ------------ > > This is a very good tool > I wish you would like it. Virgil N. Salisbury AMSOIL WWW.LUBEDEALER.COM/SALISBURY --------------------------------------------------------------------- To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 13:01:01 -0600 To: , "Mark Langford" From: "Robert Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Virus or Worm Message-ID: <009301c2e349$961e96a0$05d81a18@hot.rr.com> Mark, You are correct, the message I sent to the sender came back as non-existent. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hor.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:53 AM Subject: Re: KR> Virus or Worm > Robert Stone wrote: > > >> You are sending out mail that is contaminated. Here is the alert > notice I got from my server. If you will take notice of paragraph 6 in the > alert notice, I am instructed to inform you of this problem. Attachments > are not permitted on the KRNet and if you continue to attach material to > your e-mails sent to the KRNet you could end up being removed for > non-compliance with the rules. A copy of this entire message is being sent > to the KRNet manager.<< > > The message didn't come through KRnet, nor was it probably sent by > dcda@tpnol.o . In fact, I'll bet you money that dcda@tpnol.o isn't even ON > KRNet! (I could check but I'm too lazy). Here's something I posted last > August, that still applies... > ----------------------------- > Pat Driscoll wrote: > > >>I did not send out any messages to the net. Any ideas?? > > My first guess would be the KLEZ virus. You probably don't have it as long > as you didn't open it. And the funny thing is that the message didn't come > from KRnet either. The virus just picks email addresses from the victim's > address book and "cloaks" the output to appear as if it came from there, > rather than where it actually originated. That way, you notify the sender > and the sender almost always says "I don't have it, I'm sure", and he's > right. It came to you from somewhere else, with his return address on it. > Whoever unknowingly emailed the virus had previously emailed > krnet@mailinglists.org , so it was placed automatically in his address > book, and became input for this twisted virus! > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > mailto:langford@hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Stone" > To: > Cc: "KRNet" > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:14 AM > Subject: KR> Virus or Worm > > > You are sending out mail that is contaminated. Here is the alert > notice I got from my server. If you will take notice of paragraph 6 in the > alert notice, I am instructed to inform you of this problem. Attachments > are not permitted on the KRNet and if you continue to attach material to > your e-mails sent to the KRNet you could end up being removed for > non-compliance with the rules. A copy of this entire message is being sent > to the KRNet manager. > > > > ALERT!!! > This e-mail in its original form contained one or more attached files that > were infected with a virus or worm, or contained another type of security > threat. > > The following attachments were infected and have been repaired: > No attachments are in this category. > > The following attachments were deleted due to an inability to clean them: > 1. height.pif: W32.Klez.H@mm > > The Following attachments were not delivered due to inbound mail policy > violations: > No attachments are in this category. > > > Road Runner does not contact the sender of the infected attachment(s) in the > event that they were not actually sent from the indicated party. > > Please contact the sender directly to alert them of their issue with > infected files if you wish to do so. > > For more information on Road Runner's virus filtering initiative, visit our > Help & Member Services pages at http://help.rr.com, or the virus filtering > information page directly at http://help.rr.com/faqs/e_mgsp.html. > > ------------ Original message text follows ------------ > > This is a very good tool > I wish you would like it. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > > To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org > For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > > See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 23:34:45 +0000 To: KRnet@mailinglists.org From: "John Baker" Subject: RE: KR> February KROnline Message-ID: Please do. Those of us that are new on the KR group will benefit from the knowledge of those of you that have been here longer than us. John Baker >From: "Dan Heath" >Reply-To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >To: >Subject: RE: KR> February KROnline >Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 18:23:43 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) > >You know, I could probably write something on all of those subjects. The >problem is, I don't have any statistics or engineering facts to back any of >it up. I'm just like most of you out there, in that, I have learned >everything that I know about building this little plane and all the things >that go with it, just from doing it and being around other people who do >it. > >I can write about how I build the seats, actually, I have already done >that. > I can write about how I built the canopy, actually, I have already done >that. If anyone is interested in that sort of thing in KR Online, I can >take that information, beef it up, pick out some pictures and send it to >Mark as an article. > >I will be glad to do this, but all you get is the experience of what worked >and what did not. > >N64KR > >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > >DanRH@KR-Builder.org > >See you in Red Oak - 2003 > >See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic >See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > >-------Original Message------- > >From: KRnet@mailinglists.org >Date: Friday, February 28, 2003 10:41:04 AM >To: KRnet@mailinglists.org >Subject: RE: KR> February KROnline > >I would be interested in everything that Phil asked for. >I would also be interested in writing; unfortunately, I just got my garage >ravaged KR2. It is also my first attempt. so all I have are questions, not >knowledge. >1. design and fabrication of landing gear leg attachments complete > >with fabrication drawings that others have used. > >2. design and fabrication of nose wheel leg assemblies. > >3. design, fabrication and installation of aluminum wing tanks > >4. details of various seat configurations including 3-D contoured > >bucket seats, 2-D contour (the common type), flat board and canvas > >5. sliding canopy arrangements including discussion of the air loads > >on canopies > >6. discussion of push-rod control systems vs cable and pulley systems > >7. discussion of relative merits of spoilers vs flaps and their > >effects on stall speed, descent angle, controllability etc > >8. discussion of the effects of vertical stabiliser area on stability, > >controllability, spin resistance, drag etc > >9. as above for horizontal stabiliser > >10. discussion of options for attachment of seat belts > > > >There must be lots more. > > > >How about it guys? > > > >Phil Maley > >Perth Australia > >Larry Severson >Fountain Valley, CA 92708 >(714) 968-9852 >larry2@socal.rr.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To post to the list, email: krnet@mailinglists.org , NOT "reply all" > >To UNsubscribe, e-mail: krnet-unsubscribe@mailinglists.org >For additional commands, e-mail: krnet-help@mailinglists.org > >See the KRNet archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >or http://www.bouyea.net/ for the Word files > >. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ End of krnet Digest ***********************************