Received: from [206.142.247.18] by bou2100 (ArGoSoft Mail Server Freeware, Version 1.70 (1.7.0.3)); Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:05:24 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1982zv-000Bqe-00; Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:00:07 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8126127088916375==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: krnet-request@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1 To: krnet@mylist.net X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sender: krnet-bounces@mylist.net Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:00:07 -0700 --===============8126127088916375== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: KRnet Digest, Vol 13, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." --===============8126127088916375== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Today's Topics (16 messages) Today's Topics: 1. landing light covers (Oscar Zuniga) 2. quantity indicator systems. (larry severson) 3. RE: quantity indicator systems. (Ron Freiberger) 4. RE: quantity indicator systems. (larry severson) 5. Re: Engine (Justin) 6. Re: Engine 7. Re: quantity indicator systems. (gleone) 8. RE: quantity indicator systems. (Ron Freiberger) 9. Re: Engine (Mark Youkey) 10. Re: quantity indicator systems. 11. Re: quantity indicator systems. (larry severson) 12. Re: quantity indicator systems. (Robert Stone) 13. Re: quantity indicator systems. (gleone) 14. Re: quantity indicator systems. (ROBERT COOPER) 15. Re: quantity indicator systems. (Robert Stone) 16. Engine Conversions (Mark Youkey) --===============8126127088916375== Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="===============58454379697995762==" MIME-Version: 1.0 --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 14:36:54 -0500 From: "Oscar Zuniga" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>landing light covers Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Oh, yes indeed it will affect the lamp life on landing lights if they are subjected to vibration and shock and if they are of the filament type. Take a household light bulb and rap it lightly against your palm, then try it in your fixture. Odds are that the filament will fracture with a rap or jar. There are household "rough service" lamps available for use in trouble lights/drop lights/work lights and for use on machinery, also some rated at 130 volts instead of 120, and the common feature among these is that the filaments are made a bit heavier and may also have additional support inside the glass globe. But they are still somewhat fragile. Granted, automotive and aircraft lamps are made to withstand more shock and vibration than household lamps, but mounting one on your landing gear wheelpants is just asking for shorter life. The halogen units are a bit different than standard tungsten filament incandescent lamps in that the source is a small quartz tube with a tightly-wound filament inside, which gives the filament more sturdiness than a tungsten filament... and may be OK. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 14:46:16 -0700 From: larry severson To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030421144338.00bcd420@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 I bought a partially completed KR2 with outboard wing tanks that have no quantity indicator system or venting. Does anyone have an effective quantity indicating system for such a KR2 rig? Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:54:07 -0400 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030421144338.00bcd420@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Do you mean without cutting into the tank to do so? Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of larry severson Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 5:46 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>quantity indicator systems. I bought a partially completed KR2 with outboard wing tanks that have no quantity indicator system or venting. Does anyone have an effective quantity indicating system for such a KR2 rig? Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 15:00:49 -0700 From: larry severson To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com, KR builders and pilots Subject: RE: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030421145956.0306a640@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030421144338.00bcd420@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4 Is that possible? At 05:54 PM 4/21/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Do you mean without cutting into the tank to do so? > > >I bought a partially completed KR2 with outboard wing tanks that have no >quantity indicator system or venting. Does anyone have an effective >quantity indicating system for such a KR2 rig? Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 03:43:24 -0500 From: "Justin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Engine Message-ID: <000a01c308ab$3ce81b60$83d81818@computer> References: <179.191d1c49.2bd47146@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Early as you can saturday or sunday morning. Set me up a time and date and i will drive up there. No way it would fit in a tomahawk? Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: KR>Engine > Justin; > You better come and get that engine soon...or it will end up on > E-Bay...for $300. > > RV > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 18:49:51 EDT From: Ronevogt@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Engine Message-ID: <4a.1b97d898.2bd5cf8f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Justin; Saturday at noon sounds good to me. Call me at (805) 967-6761 before you take off on Sat. And...send me your phone number just in case something comes up. Ron --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 17:56:07 -0600 From: gleone To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: <3EA48517.9C338EFE@tritel.net> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030421144338.00bcd420@pop-server.socal.rr.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20030421145956.0306a640@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A88833FE17659A9160773790" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A88833FE17659A9160773790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can use a float-wire guage through the filler cap. It's been used for years on a number of planes but the Volksplane comes to mind right now. All you have to do is modify the filler cap with the float guage. larry severson wrote: > Is that possible? > > At 05:54 PM 4/21/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >Do you mean without cutting into the tank to do so? > > > > > >I bought a partially completed KR2 with outboard wing tanks that have no > >quantity indicator system or venting. Does anyone have an effective > >quantity indicating system for such a KR2 rig? > > Larry Severson > Fountain Valley, CA 92708 > (714) 968-9852 > larry2@socal.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --------------A88833FE17659A9160773790 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="gleone.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for gleone Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gleone.vcf" begin:vcard n:;gleone x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:gleone@tritel.net fn:gleone end:vcard --------------A88833FE17659A9160773790-- --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 20:29:07 -0400 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3EA48517.9C338EFE@tritel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 You may have to slow down to Cub/Volksplane speed to read it! Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com You can use a float-wire guage through the filler cap. It's been used for years on a number of planes but the Volksplane comes to mind right now. All you have to do is modify the filler cap with the float guage. --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:07:55 -0500 From: "Mark Youkey" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Engine Message-ID: <001101c30873$fd53e1a0$90780c44@ok.cox.net> References: <4a.1b97d898.2bd5cf8f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 Shouldn't this coordination be done person to person, rather than in my inbox, also? Mark Youkey myoukey@cox.net Okalhoma City ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: Re: KR>Engine > Justin; > Saturday at noon sounds good to me. Call me at (805) 967-6761 before > you take off on Sat. And...send me your phone number just in case something > comes up. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 23:55:27 EDT From: Crkr2s@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Larry, Have you thought of using a sight tube like the one for the header tank? I use to fly an American Yankee and it had wing tanks and it used sight tubes as fuel gauges. I'm planning on having wing tanks w/o a header tank and that's the method I plan to use. I'm also open to other suggestions. Chuck Wyatt Tehuacana, Texas crkr2s@aol.com --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:07:01 -0700 From: larry severson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030421210447.03093c58@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11 Both the Yankee and Cheeta have the sight gages, but I haven't been able to see how they are set up. >Have you thought of using a sight tube like the one for the header tank? >I use to fly an American Yankee and it had wing tanks and it used sight tubes >as fuel gauges. I'm planning on having wing tanks w/o a header tank and >that's the method I plan to use. I'm also open to other suggestions. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:01:02 -0500 From: "Robert Stone" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: <000401c308d7$9cd4f9e0$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 Chuck, To the best of my knowledge a sight gauge is a see-thru glass or plastic tube that must be mounted at the same height as the gas tank because the level of fuel it shows is the same as the level in the tank. I am curious to know how you are going to make this work in wing tanks? Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstosne4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:55 PM Subject: Re: KR>quantity indicator systems. > Larry, > Have you thought of using a sight tube like the one for the header tank? > I use to fly an American Yankee and it had wing tanks and it used sight tubes > as fuel gauges. I'm planning on having wing tanks w/o a header tank and > that's the method I plan to use. I'm also open to other suggestions. > > Chuck Wyatt > Tehuacana, Texas > crkr2s@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:34:04 -0600 (Mountain Daylight Time) From: "gleone" To: Subject: Re: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: <3EA552DC.00000A.00280@gleone> References: <000401c308d7$9cd4f9e0$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_SS1RH890000000000000" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 13 --------------Boundary-00=_SS1RH890000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He could probably require contact Grumman and ask for the details. My Tr= -2 used sight gages but how they got it to read is a mystery to me. They worked very well, though.=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 8:02:47 AM=0D To: KR builders and pilots=0D Subject: Re:KR>quantity indicator systems.=0D =0D Chuck,=0D To the best of my knowledge a sight gauge is a see-thru glass or=0D plastic tube that must be mounted at the same height as the gas tank beca= use=0D the level of fuel it shows is the same as the level in the tank.=0D I am curious to know how you are going to make this work in wing tanks?=0D =0D Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx=0D rstosne4@hot.rr.com=0D =0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: =0D To: =0D Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:55 PM=0D Subject: Re: KR>quantity indicator systems.=0D =0D =0D > Larry,=0D > Have you thought of using a sight tube like the one for the header tank= ?=0D > I use to fly an American Yankee and it had wing tanks and it used sight= =0D tubes=0D > as fuel gauges. I'm planning on having wing tanks w/o a header tank and= =0D > that's the method I plan to use. I'm also open to other suggestions.=0D >=0D > Chuck Wyatt=0D > Tehuacana, Texas=0D > crkr2s@aol.com=0D > _______________________________________________=0D > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =0D =2E --------------Boundary-00=_SS1RH890000000000000-- --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 10:29:37 -0400 From: "ROBERT COOPER" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030421144338.00bcd420@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 14 Larry The wings I got from Gene Byrd had no fuel indicating system. I cut a hole in the top of the tank and placed a float inside the tank. I have pictures of the process but have not put them on the website yet. I'll build a page then let you know so you can see the process I used. Are you sure the tank is not vented? It may have a vented cap. Jack Cooper mailto:kr2cooper@msn.com http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2 Fayetteville, NC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry severson" To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: KR>quantity indicator systems. > I bought a partially completed KR2 with outboard wing tanks that have no > quantity indicator system or venting. Does anyone have an effective > quantity indicating system for such a KR2 rig? > > Larry Severson > Fountain Valley, CA 92708 > (714) 968-9852 > larry2@socal.rr.com > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:59:01 -0500 From: "Robert Stone" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>quantity indicator systems. Message-ID: <001801c308f0$79a781e0$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> References: <000401c308d7$9cd4f9e0$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> <3EA552DC.00000A.00280@gleone> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15 gleone, You know or should know that attachments are not permitted on the KRNet, If you have an answer to the question I asked please send it direct to me off net. I have not opened your attachment. Bob Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: "gleone" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: Re: KR>quantity indicator systems. --===============58454379697995762== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 12:14:11 -0500 From: "Mark Youkey" To: "KR" Subject: KR>Engine Conversions Message-ID: <003201c308f2$97f612e0$90780c44@ok.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 16 Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is involved with converting an = automobile engine to an aircraft engine? I've seen all sorts of kits = for doing all sorts of things to all sorts of engines, but I haven't = been able to nail down what is actually involved in changing a car = engine into a KR-2 engine. Interesting side note: Did you know there is a plane in Germany flying = on a Wankle diesel...somewhere in the neighborhood of 100hp? That = sounds interesting...maybe not what I want, but interesting none the = less. Thanks in advance. Mark Youkey myoukey@cox.net Okalhoma City --===============58454379697995762==-- --===============8126127088916375== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============8126127088916375==--