Received: from [66.113.66.18] by bou2100 (ArGoSoft Mail Server Freeware, Version 1.70 (1.7.0.3)); Sun, 18 May 2003 12:05:45 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19HTO6-000MLN-01; Sun, 18 May 2003 12:00:02 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============64075956770619391==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: krnet-request@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 39, Issue 1 To: krnet@mylist.net X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sender: krnet-bounces@mylist.net Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 12:00:02 -0700 --===============64075956770619391== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: KRnet Digest, Vol 39, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." --===============64075956770619391== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Today's Topics (5 messages) Today's Topics: 1. Aileron Weight - Documentation on this day's work (Dan Heath) 2. KR (Timothy Bellville) 3. Re: KR (gleone) 4. Re: KR (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 5. venturie (larry flesner) --===============64075956770619391== Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="===============097959445757010544==" MIME-Version: 1.0 --===============097959445757010544== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 17:34:25 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR>Aileron Weight - Documentation on this day's work Message-ID: <3EC6D510.000003.01328@dan> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 This is small deviation from the plans. Other than that, it is very much per plans, even though I tried to take a short cut that did not work. =20 There are a few more pictures than you get in the plans and it serves as = our documentation of our construction. =0D =0D You can take a peek by clicking on http://kr-builder.org/Aileron/index.ht= ml and scrolling the thumbnails down to 11 from the bottom.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From bubby@usit.net Sat May 17 14:57:16 2003 Received: from epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.181]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19H9g4-000D28-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 17 May 2003 14:57:16 -0700 Received: from 0-1pool199-253.nas13.memphis1.tn.us.da.qwest.net ([65.141.199.253] helo=rg1006404onemain) by epic.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19H9gz-0002d9-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 17 May 2003 14:58:13 -0700 Message-ID: <005701c31cbf$6e135d80$fdc78d41@com> From: "Robert Tate Gann" To: "KR builders and pilots" Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 16:58:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>KR Price list X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: Robert Tate Gann , KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I just received my information package a couple of days ago. In it was a = price list for the plans. Plans Cost: KR-1 -- $60.00 KR-2 -- $165.00 KR-2S -- 240.00 (Consists of KR-2 Plans PLUS KR-2S Supplement) (Builders with a valid KR-2 Serial = Number=20 issued for a prior purchase of KR-2 = Plans=20 may purchase the KR-2S supplement for = $75.00) CA Residents add 7.75% sales tax Shipping Charges: = Canada/ Overseas Within US = Mexico KR-1 $ 5.00 = $10.00 $35.00 KR-2 $10.00 = $15.00 $50.00 KR-2S $15.00 = $20.00 $60.00 (If the builder already has the KR-2 = Plans, the shipping charges for the KR-2S = Supplement Only would be the same as for KR-1 = Plans.) The sheet was dated April 2003. Tate Gann - Henderson, TN Bubby@usit.netFrom virgnvs@juno.com Sat May 17 18:33:54 2003 Received: from m12.nyc.untd.com ([64.136.22.75]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19HD3i-000DwR-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 17 May 2003 18:33:54 -0700 Received: from cookie.untd.com by cookie.untd.com for <"d8F/9F7rt1WR9CPd1Xr26W/tdNvqviTpdJFVgbN/+cx1DqHLkXMq9w==">; Sat, 17 May 2003 21:33:59 EDT Received: (from virgnvs@juno.com) by m12.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id HYE5G2HY; Sat, 17 May 2003 21:33:59 EDT To: krnet@mylist.net Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 21:30:52 -0400 Subject: Re: KR>Finishing Message-ID: <20030517.213330.-528029.1.virgnvs@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-5,8-77 From: virgnvs@juno.com X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Yeah, But, Virg On Sat, 17 May 2003 06:35:52 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) "Dan Heath" writes: > RE: Actually, the KR2 plan price is not listed. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > > It is, but you have to go to the KR2S listing to find it. > KR-2S Price List > > > > KR-2 Builder’s Manual and Plans - $165.00 > KR-2S Supplemental Plans - $75.00 > > I tried to talk to Jeanette at last year's gathering, about helping > her with > the site, but she said that she already had plans under way to make > things > better. Nothing has changed. I was even willing to handle e-mails > for her, > but she really didn't want to talk about it. I really wish she > would let > someone help her bring the marketing of the KR into the 19th > century. > > > I looked at the wing skins for the KR2S and they look really good. > She > needs pics for the other products also. > > Virg, don't you have any influence with her? > > N64KR > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > See you in Red Oak - 2003 > > See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury Amsoil www.lubedealer.com/salisbury --===============097959445757010544== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:47:57 -0400 From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "Robert Tate Gann" , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>KR Message-ID: <000f01c31d3b$b65a40f0$485f570c@donnas> References: <005701c31cbf$6e135d80$fdc78d41@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Hi everyone, I have a new "Old" question , Where on the fuselage would be the best location for a 4"(10" long)venturie to run my DG? I know there was a recent discussion about it but I didn't follow it that close. now that I have come in to a great deal on this instrument I would like to use it.but I do not like the idea of using an engine driven pump. The simplest thing to do is the venturie,right? Also does it need to have a shut off valve and suction gage? would covering it on the ground be ok instead? Thanks Tim Bellville KR2 N7038V --===============097959445757010544== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 07:32:46 -0600 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" To: Subject: Re: KR>KR Message-ID: <3EC78B7E.000001.01796@DDMWDD11> References: <000f01c31d3b$b65a40f0$485f570c@donnas> Content-Type: Multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_MA43QL80000000000000" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 --------------Boundary-00=_MA43QL80000000000000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D One guy built his into the wing root. Made for a great looking installat= ion I downloaded the picture but don't remember the link. The problem is t= he picture is on my other computer which the C drive has crashed and burned.= =20 It will be a while before I get it up and running again. I think if you = do a search in the archives for "venturie", you'll find the link.=0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Sunday, May 18, 2003 6:48:45 AM=0D To: Robert Tate Gann; KR builders and pilots=0D Subject: KR>KR=0D =0D Hi everyone,=0D I have a new "Old" question ,=0D Where on the fuselage would be the best location for a 4"(10" long)ventur= ie=0D to run my DG? I know there was a recent discussion about it but I didn't=0D follow it that close. now that I have come in to a great deal on this=0D instrument I would like to use it.but I do not like the idea of using an=0D engine driven pump.=0D The simplest thing to do is the venturie,right?=0D Also does it need to have a shut off valve and suction gage? would coveri= ng=0D it on the ground be ok instead?=0D Thanks=0D Tim Bellville=0D KR2=0D N7038V=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =0D =2E=20 --------------Boundary-00=_MA43QL80000000000000-- --===============097959445757010544== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 10:21:16 -0400 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>KR Message-ID: <20030518.102117.2440.0.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 You could build it into the wing root I guess as posted but most of them are located at the lowest portion of the fuse bottom. I would think somewhere under your butt would be the correct location. Good luck and be prepared for some extra drag. On Sun, 18 May 2003 08:47:57 -0400 "Timothy Bellville" writes: > Hi everyone, > I have a new "Old" question , > Where on the fuselage would be the best location for a 4"(10" > long)venturie > to run my DG? I know there was a recent discussion about it but I > didn't > follow it that close. now that I have come in to a great deal on > this > instrument I would like to use it.but I do not like the idea of > using an > engine driven pump. > The simplest thing to do is the venturie,right? > Also does it need to have a shut off valve and suction gage? would > covering > it on the ground be ok instead? > Thanks > Tim Bellville > KR2 > N7038V > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --===============097959445757010544== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 09:26:43 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>venturie Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030518092643.00794c00@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <000f01c31d3b$b65a40f0$485f570c@donnas> References: <005701c31cbf$6e135d80$fdc78d41@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 >Where on the fuselage would be the best location for a 4"(10" long)venturie >to run my DG? >The simplest thing to do is the venturie,right? >Also does it need to have a shut off valve and suction gage? would covering >it on the ground be ok instead? >Tim Bellville +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tim, These are educated guesses on my part but I'll put them out for what they are worth. Yes the venturie will be the most reliable way to drive the DG. Do you really need a DG bad enough to hang a venturie out there? Flying VFR only, it seems a mag compass and a handheld GPS should get you there. I have three compasses in the Tripacer, a mag compass, a DG, and a remote mounted mag compass. I'd settle for a vertical card compass in the KR. I think the DG might need a smaller venturie than an AH so make sure you aren't installing more than you need. A small vacuum gauge might be nice but probably not required. As to mounting, it needs to be in a smooth flowing, high pressure area. The shortest route for the hoses would be a mounting on the forward side of the fuselage, between the cockpit and the firewall. You probably won't pull enough vacuum to hurt the instrument so a regulator is probably not required either but a good filter holds a high priority. My best advise is check with someone that knows what they are talking about! :-) Larry Flesner --===============097959445757010544==-- --===============64075956770619391== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============64075956770619391==--