Received: from [66.113.66.18] by bou2100 (ArGoSoft Mail Server Freeware, Version 1.70 (1.7.0.3)); Tue, 20 May 2003 12:06:24 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19ICLE-000I5l-06 for lists@bouyea.net; Tue, 20 May 2003 12:00:04 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============10008866437723718==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: krnet-request@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 To: krnet@mylist.net X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sender: krnet-bounces+lists=bouyea.net@mylist.net Errors-To: krnet-bounces+lists=bouyea.net@mylist.net Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:00:04 -0700 --===============10008866437723718== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: KRnet Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." --===============10008866437723718== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Today's Topics (6 messages) Today's Topics: 1. Re: Speed Brake (Brian Kraut) 2. Re: Corvair Tech data 3. Prop placement for Continental (Darren Pond) 4. Re: Speed Brake (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 5. Re: Prop placement for Continental 6. Re: KR (gwvandor) --===============10008866437723718== Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="===============34332524209582926==" MIME-Version: 1.0 --===============34332524209582926== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 13:30:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Kraut To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Speed Brake Message-ID: <758667.1053375813075.JavaMail.nobody@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Can you do a go around with the bellyboard deflected or does it take three hands to push in the throttle, retract the bellyboard, and keep a hand on the stick for the trim change when the board retracts? -------Original Message------- From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Sent: 05/18/03 06:10 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Speed Brake > > Just an update: As some of you know I designed and built a bellyboard over the winter here in Pa. Today was the first flight with it installed. In a nut shell the cruise speed was unaffected,( some thought the board would drag somewhat in the retracted position.) however the pitch has really flattened out when slowing down on final. Prior to the brake installation, at 80 mph I had to hold the nose up so high that visability was greatly reduced while approaching the airport on final. Now that has been corrected and the speed over the fence has been reduced to 70 mph and the float is dramatically cut in the flare. After 6 touch and goes my total landing distance has been cut by as much as 1/3, it's unbelievable how much drag it produces............Thanks ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --===============34332524209582926== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:13:50 -0500 From: kerry.j.english@exxonmobil.com To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Corvair Tech data Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 Please remove me from the mailing list. Thanks "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent by: cc: krnet-bounces@myli Subject: Re: KR>Corvair Tech data st.net 05/19/03 12:05 PM Please respond to KR builders and pilots Steven Phillabaum wrote: > Just picked up my $100.00 (running when it was taken out > of the car) corvair (pig in a poke). Looking for > technical data for ALL tolerances for instection purposes > when I tear it down. I know of William Wynne, but would > like info in format like Haynes, or chilton. Plus any > data that will help this pig fly. First thing you need to do is buy William Wynne's conversion manual. It will be the best $59 you ever spent. The first thing it might tell you is if you bought the wrong engine. You can order his outstanding manual at http://www.flycorvair.com/products.html . Next, visit Pat Panzera's official CorvAircraft site, and check your head and case numbers at http://www.corvaircraft.com/ to see what you have, and to find instructions on how to subscribe to the CorvAircraft list. There are about 300 guys sitting around there waiting to answer everything you ever wanted to know about making Corvairs fly. And you could always visit my Corvair site at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/ if you wanted more excruciating details. But to answer your question, all you need is the $19.95 1965 GM Corvair Shop Manual, available from Clark's Corvair at http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/pages.cgi?category=home , or Corvair Underground at http://www.corvairunderground.com/. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============34332524209582926== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 17:45:37 -0400 From: "Darren Pond" To: "Krnet" Subject: KR>Prop placement for Continental Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C31E2E.74FDB9E0" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C31E2E.74FDB9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI All Trying to remember where to set the prop for hand propping! I have it set so you here the mag's click at the 9-10 o'clock point and when it shuts down it stops at the 12 o'clock point. Is this correct? 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I fly one hand on the stick,deploy the brake w/the left hand and so on. On Mon, 19 May 2003 13:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Brian Kraut writes: > Can you do a go around with the bellyboard deflected or does it take > three hands to push in the throttle, retract the bellyboard, and > keep a hand on the stick for the trim change when the board > retracts? > > -------Original Message------- > From: Kenneth L Wiltrout > Sent: 05/18/03 06:10 PM > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: KR>Speed Brake > > > > > Just an update: As some of you know I designed and > built > a bellyboard over the winter here in Pa. Today was the first flight > with > it installed. In a nut shell the cruise speed was unaffected,( some > thought the board would drag somewhat in the retracted position.) > however > the pitch has really flattened out when slowing down on final. Prior > to > the brake installation, at 80 mph I had to hold the nose up so high > that > visability was greatly reduced while approaching the airport on > final. > Now that has been corrected and the speed over the fence has been > reduced > to 70 mph and the float is dramatically cut in the flare. After 6 > touch > and goes my total landing distance has been cut by as much as 1/3, > it's > unbelievable how much drag it produces............Thanks > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit href="http://www.juno.com">www.juno.com to sign up today! > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at href="http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html">http://www.krnet.org/instru ctions.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! --===============34332524209582926== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:39:12 -0400 From: virgnvs@juno.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Prop placement for Continental Message-ID: <20030519.204721.-348225.6.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Set to horizontal when stopped, Virg On Mon, 19 May 2003 17:45:37 -0400 "Darren Pond" writes: > HI All > Trying to remember where to set the prop for hand propping! > I have it set so you here the mag's click at the 9-10 o'clock point > and > when it shuts down it stops at the 12 o'clock point. > Is this correct? > > Darren Pond > Finial few detail until we have another go at getting this thing > airborne > after 15 years. > Virgil N. Salisbury Amsoil www.lubedealer.com/salisbury --===============34332524209582926== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 22:24:43 -0500 From: "gwvandor" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>KR Message-ID: <001801c31e7f$5b56a230$2fb2fea9@yourib3g4dzt9h> References: <005701c31cbf$6e135d80$fdc78d41@com><000f01c31d3b$b65a40f0$485f570c@donnas><003301c31d86$5d861f80$eb942a18@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> <000e01c31d89$d368c650$2fb2fea9@yourib3g4dzt9h> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "gwvandor" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 5:06 PM Subject: Re: KR>KR > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bill kirkland" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 4:42 PM > Subject: Re: KR>KR > > > > Tim; I have two venturi's on my 150. there is no suction guage. They drive > > the DGI and A/H. They are mounted on the side ust aft of the engine > > compartment. They are uncovered all year. Simple and reliable but don't > > count on them in ice. > > W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND > > kirkland@vianet.on.ca > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Timothy Bellville" > > To: "Robert Tate Gann" ; "KR builders and pilots" > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 8:47 AM > > Subject: KR>KR > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > I have a new "Old" question , > > > Where on the fuselage would be the best location for a 4"(10" > > long)venturie > > > to run my DG? I know there was a recent discussion about it but I didn't > > > follow it that close. now that I have come in to a great deal on this > > > instrument I would like to use it.but I do not like the idea of using an > > > engine driven pump. > > > The simplest thing to do is the venturie,right? > > > Also does it need to have a shut off valve and suction gage? would > > covering > > > it on the ground be ok instead? > > > Thanks > > > Tim Bellville > > > KR2 > > > N7038V > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > the venturie slow jou down10mph get diferent sourse suction!or go > electric a/h! > i have an old qestion=on the trailing edge of the kr1elevater what is the > minimum up and down travel please anibody help george vandor. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --===============34332524209582926==-- --===============10008866437723718== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============10008866437723718==--