Received: from [66.113.66.18] by bou2100 (ArGoSoft Mail Server Freeware, Version 1.70 (1.7.0.3)); Sun, 25 May 2003 12:07:55 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19K0iy-00088C-04 for lists@bouyea.net; Sun, 25 May 2003 12:00:04 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============95329550180526712==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: krnet-request@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 46, Issue 1 To: krnet@mylist.net X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sender: krnet-bounces+lists=bouyea.net@mylist.net Errors-To: krnet-bounces+lists=bouyea.net@mylist.net Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 12:00:04 -0700 --===============95329550180526712== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: KRnet Digest, Vol 46, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." --===============95329550180526712== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Today's Topics (7 messages) Today's Topics: 1. Re: problems with KRnet? (Edwin Blocher) 2. RE: problems with KRnet? (Phil Maley) 3. Old Plans Wanted (Fred Flintstone) 4. Re: problems with KRnet? (Phil Matheson) 5. RE: problems with KRnet? (Phil Maley) 6. test (Rick Wilson) 7. Re: problems with KRnet? (Mark Langford) --===============95329550180526712== Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="===============47319348809054262==" MIME-Version: 1.0 --===============47319348809054262== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 14:38:51 -0500 From: "Edwin Blocher" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? Message-ID: <007801c3222c$1b2634e0$0201a8c0@computer> References: <000701c3211d$20a861a0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> <001401c3219f$dee9b240$155f570c@donnas> <001c01c321a0$5c8fae70$155f570c@donnas> <3.0.6.32.20030524084323.0082fde0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Note: All those were replys. We can't post new mail. Mark L is having it looked into. This is also a reply. ED Ed Blocher Santa Rosa Beach, FL eblocher@earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: KR>problems with KRnet? > > > Tim, > > Make that three. You're test came through for me. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --===============47319348809054262== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:48:50 +0800 From: "Phil Maley" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>problems with KRnet? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <007801c3222c$1b2634e0$0201a8c0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Hi all Is everyone posting their messages to krnet@mylist.net ? I am wondering why we don't just use yahoo groups. I run two or three yahoo mailing lists and it just keeps working with no problems. Their service is free although there is some advertising. They also provide plenty of space for uploading files, photos etc. Maybe we shouldn't try to muddy the waters at this time but it is a serious alternative. Regards to all Phil Maley Perth Australia --===============47319348809054262== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 05:56:34 +0000 From: "Fred Flintstone" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Old Plans Wanted Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 I am looking for a set of old KR-2/S plans. Please contact me off line - Bill hotplanes@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ [1]Get 10Mb extra storage for MSN Hotmail. Subscribe Now! References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMJENHK/2740??PS= --===============47319348809054262== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:13:35 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" To: , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? Message-ID: <001a01c33b13$35e20c50$bf96dccb@Office> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 May be a good idea phil, we seem to have a great deal of problems Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( reserved) See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ --===============47319348809054262== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 20:38:42 +0800 From: "Phil Maley" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>problems with KRnet? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001a01c33b13$35e20c50$bf96dccb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Hi Phil, Dan Although it is possible to set up an email list on almost any ISP using freely available list management software, I think to do so would just open up another can of worms. Mark has done a great job of keeping us all together on krnet and I have complete faith that he will find a way to get the present system stabilised. I really only suggested Yahoo groups as a back-stop in case the mylist.net service couldn't recover from its problems. Is it still possible that we don't actually have a problem? My messages and at least some others seem to be going through ok. I've noticed a huge drop-off in email generally over the past couple of weeks. Maybe people are concentrating on other things at the moment. Regards to all Phil Maley Perth Australia --===============47319348809054262== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 11:30:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Wilson To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>test Message-ID: <20030525183037.79952.qmail@web21205.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6 This is only a test. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com --===============47319348809054262== Content-Type: message/rfc822 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 13:33:49 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>problems with KRnet? Message-ID: <01a201c322ec$2f4f0580$1202a8c0@basement> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 Phil Maley wrote: > I am wondering why we don't just use yahoo groups. I run two or three > yahoo mailing lists and it just keeps working with no problems. Their > service is free although there is some advertising. They also provide > plenty of space for uploading files, photos etc. Maybe we shouldn't > try to muddy the waters at this time but it is a serious alternative. I really don't know what to do. The old list at mailinglists.com worked flawlessly for two years before it just went belly-up for 4 days, but it's back and working fine now. All I have to do is uncheck a couple of boxes and we could migrate back to that one in a heartbeat and leave this one in the dust. I'm not real impressed with the service we've gotten here. I've emailed them with about 10 messages and gotten exactly one reply from a human saying "we'll check into that". Of course service wasn't that great from the previous list either, but then we never needed it either. This list has a lot of handy bells and whistles, but people have always had problems getting signed up for it (which is a hassle for me), and now with most of the messages disappearing, we need to do something different because it's just not getting the job done. I have a personal hangup with yahoo groups. Even if Yahoo doesn't sell your email address to others, you address is just sitting out there for the pickin' by the marketer's search engines. This list and the last were "private" lists, and unless you're a member, you don't have access to the member list, and even then, they are painful to extract (ask me how I know). I'm working on my third week with new email address, and haven't had a single spam message yet! I'd like to keep it that way. And the endless advertising, popups, banner ads, and having to scroll down through it all to get to the actual message just makes me crazy. I AM convinced that there is a problem with this list though. Although only a couple of guys have cc'd me on messages that were sent to the list, at least ten (that I know of) made it to me, but not the list, which absolves their ISP, and strongly suggests a problem at mylist.net. And I've sent serveral myself that didn't make it. I'm assuming that the folks at mylist.net are on vacation this weekend, but will jump on this on Tuesday morning. Maybe we should give them until Wednesday or so to figure it out before we jump ship. Also, if we keep trying to use the system, we might find more clues to help them identify the problem. One difference between this time and the last time is that I have a list of everybody's email address that is on this list, and can easily send a message to all subscribers, regardless of whether the list is working or not. Although it would be a hassle for me to add folks back to the old list myself, I could send a message telling folks to resubscribe, and how to do it, so nobody should be left behind. After Wednesday, we'll think of something, but I'm certainly open to suggestions... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford --===============47319348809054262==-- --===============95329550180526712== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --===============95329550180526712==--