From: To: Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 56, Issue 2 Date: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 12:01 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. KR2SPort (larry flesner) 2. KR2 Stall speed (Ron Freiberger) 3. Re: KR2 Stall speed (larry severson) 4. Gathering Lodging (Mark Jones) 5. RE: Gathering Lodging (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:41:30 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>KR2SPort Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030604084130.007accd0@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <3EDDF4A1.00000D.01408@dan> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 >Remember, when reading those specs, that they are for the weight as >specified. >If you could come up with a KR2SPort, you would really have something that I >think would be very popular. >Daniel R. Heath +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Don't forget there are other qualifiers for the "Sport Plane" besides stall speed. One is max speed, I believe, of somewhere around 125 mph. It might be hard to convince the inspector your slick little ship will not do better than that. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:38:28 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KR builders and flyers" , "Kenneth L Wiltrout" Subject: KR>KR2 Stall speed Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20030604.074024.2372.0.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Kenneth, Is that verifiable, perhaps with a GPS. Indicated airspeed is notoriously unreliable at the slow speeds. I assume also from the Spot pilot specs that the stall would be unaccelerated, and not in ground effect. I'd appreciate it if you could measure it at altitude, with a GPS. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth L Wiltrout [mailto:klw1953@juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:40 AM To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com; krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>KR2 Stall speed Ron my 2S comes in at 47-48mph clean. Airplane weighs 650lbs and me at 230. On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:41:59 -0500 writes: > The stall speed of the KR2 is listed as 52mph, which is 45 Knots. > The no > flaps stall limit for a "Sport Pilot" is 44Knots. I calculate a > plain > "Hershey Bar" wing with 2 feet of increased span would raise the > area by 15 > square feet. > The KR2 Spec sheet says wing area 80 square feet, but I can only > account for > 75 (!). > > Does anyone know the actual stall speed, with or without flaps, and > at what > weight would that apply? > > I don't have a problem ratio-ing the data from 75 or 80 square feet, > but it > seems there's 5 square feet missing. > > It looks like a KR2SPort is possible based on the initial specs.... > > Ron Freiberger > mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:08:33 -0700 From: larry severson To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com, KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>KR2 Stall speed Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030604080531.02ca46b0@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20030604.074024.2372.0.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 Big wings (add 2+ feet to each wing tip) + small engine (less than 1835cc) would drop the KR2 cruise down to 125 easily. Many people are having cruise speeds of only 135 now. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:33:12 -0500 From: Mark Jones To: KR Net Subject: KR>Gathering Lodging Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC25DA66D@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4 I just booked my room at Red Oak and I was looking at this link: http://www.krgathering.org/ Holy Cow... THE Headline says KR Gathering 20,023. Can you just imagine what the KR will look like in that year. Think there will be any new mods by then? Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:35:40 -0500 From: Mark Jones To: 'KR builders and pilots' Subject: RE: KR>Gathering Lodging Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC25DA66E@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 Sorry, you will find this under Lodging Info. Mark Jones Mueller Sales Corporation Ph: 262-781-5310 Fax:262-781-4130 E-mail: mjones@muellersales.com Web: www.muellersales.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Jones [mailto:Mjones@muellersales.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:33 AM To: KR Net Subject: KR>Gathering Lodging I just booked my room at Red Oak and I was looking at this link: http://www.krgathering.org/ Holy Cow... THE Headline says KR Gathering 20,023. Can you just imagine what the KR will look like in that year. Think there will be any new mods by then? Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 56, Issue 2 ************************************