From: To: Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 68, Issue 1 Date: Monday, June 16, 2003 12:02 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Interesting Experience - Simulator (Phil Spurr) 2. Re: Interesting Experience - Simulator (Dan Heath) 3. Re: Lighting up your KR (Mark Youkey) 4. Re: Re: Silent Auction (Justin) 5. Re: Kr2s Wanted (David Hartz) 6. Re: Glass Fuse (Dan Heath) 7. Glass fuse (Colin) 8. Re: Lighting up your KR-Now Electrical (Dana Overall) 9. Re: Lighting up your KR-Now Electrical (Dana Overall) 10. Re: Re: Glass Fuse (Justin) 11. Janette's Radio Interview ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:54:06 +0100 From: Phil Spurr To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Interesting Experience - Simulator Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3EEB1628.000007.03628@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Hi Dan At 08:33 14/06/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I just flew the 172 Skyhawk in X-Plane. I actually took off and landed, but >when I was done, I was shaking all over and my heart was pounding. It >reminded me of the time Jerry and I were lost on the way back from our first >KR Gathering and we landed at an unknown airport in a heavy haze. Since thinking last week about which simulator to create a KR2 for, I too have experimented with X-Plane. One of the most interesting features for me was the ability to playback recordings of a section of the flight to see various different aspects of a particular part of it, whether it's just watching it from the outside, monitoring the speeds/attitudes/instrumentation data etc, or even to see graphically the areas producing lift/drag. I'm sure now that I'll make a model based on X-Plane as opposed to MSFS. Maybe the graphics aren't as glossy, but it's the accurate aerodynamics that interest's me. Very busy with other commitments this week, but hope to start it soon. Despite having a KR2 in the garage, I didn't build it and don't have the plans or any drawings. Does anybody know if the changes made on a set of newly purchased drawings from RR would acurately reflect an aircraft which was started over fifteen years ago ? There's little point in modelling something for the simulator using the mark 1 eyeball if I expect it to be authentic. Perhaps I could rig up a pair of huge calipers to take the measurements ? Regards Phil phil.spurr@btopenworld.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:43:23 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>Interesting Experience - Simulator Message-ID: <3EED049B.00000D.00808@Computer> References: Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 Phil wrote >> Does anybody know if the changes made on a set of=0D newly purchased drawings from RR would acurately reflect an aircraft whic= h=0D was started over fifteen years ago ?=0D =0D Phil,=0D =0D I don't think the dimensions of the KR have changed at all. If you have = the correction to the washout that was incorrect in the early plans, you shou= ld be good to go. You will have to deal with any changes you made. =0D =0D Alexander Birca is working on a KR for the X-Plane now and it should be much easier to modify his plane than to create one from scratch.=0D =0D I find this simulator facinating. I just flew from my home airport. The buildings around the airport were not accurate, but the terrain is very accurate. My Wingman stick is going back and I am going to the the CH-Products stick and rudder pedals that are recommended by Austin, of X-Plane. This stick is already making jerky movements that are very difficult to compensate for.=0D =0D I think that if you can fly an accurate KR in the simulator, you can fly = a KR.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From DanRH@alltel.net Sun Jun 15 16:51:58 2003 Received: from mta01.alltel.net ([166.102.165.143] helo=mta01-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19RhHy-0006gd-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:51:58 -0700 Received: from Computer ([151.213.94.150]) by mta01-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20030615235015.BEU5730.mta01-srv.alltel.net@Computer> for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:50:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3EED063D.000011.00808@Computer> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:50:21 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: Re: KR>Kitplanes Radio Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: RE >> =0D In case anyone missed it, Jeanette Rand gave an interview on Kitplanes=0D Radio last month. You can listen to it on line by clicking on this=0D link: =0D =0D =0D Yes she did, however, she really danced around the question of support an= d certainly seems proud of her FAX number. A builder who purchaced an un-finished KR, came to see me yesterday and told me that getting a set o= f plans from her was like pulling teeth, but he did finally get them.=0D =0D I just makes me sad for her and the KR, that she is letting so many opportunities slip thru the internet gap.=0D =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From flykr2s@wi.rr.com Sun Jun 15 19:11:31 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com ([24.94.166.115]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19RjSw-0007JM-00 for KRnet@mylist.net; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:11:26 -0700 Received: from mark (CPE-65-31-89-239.wi.rr.com [65.31.89.239]) by ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.7) with SMTP id h5G29eDh014377 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:09:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001e01c333ac$d7d41da0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:13:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>LED X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: There has been a lot of talk in the past about using LED lights on the = wing tips as an inexpensive alternate. The biggest debate was that the = LED was directional and did not provide adequate light at an angle. Now = available is the wide angle LED 1157 type bulb. Each bulb has twelve = LED's which are all angled differently to give that wide field of view. = I have not tried one of these yet as I already have the standard LED = 1157 bulb. These might be worth taking a look at. Here is the link. http://www.geocities.com/acura99integra/index.htm Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:02:52 -0500 From: "Mark Youkey" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Lighting up your KR Message-ID: <004c01c333c4$8ac097b0$74710c44@blah> References: <000401c33281$e577a7a0$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1257" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Since you have them and have played with them...how hot do the light strings from autozone get? I guess Daves lights don't heat up. Thanks for the great info. Mark Youkey myoukey@cox.net Oklahoma City ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:51:10 -0500 From: "Justin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Re: Silent Auction Message-ID: <002401c333c2$e8072440$ed7ba8c0@computer> References: <007b01c332f7$8b17a780$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> <00a001c332fc$5b95d7c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Is that an all fiberglass boat? I am not family with the project but just by looking at those pictures looks that way. Is there any KR's flying that are all glass? I will be using glass in place of the plywood. 2plys of 5.85oz plus deck cloth on the outside and 1ply of 5.85 on the inside. Stronger than plywood for sure and proubly the same weight. Time will tell. Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: Re: KR>Re: Silent Auction > I just made a link to some photos of the Dr Dean KR Derivative. Just click > here: > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/dean.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KR Net" > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 11:35 PM > Subject: KR>Re: Silent Auction > > > For those interested, the Silent Auction for the Dr. Dean KR-2S derivative > fuselage will end on June 23rd at 8pm Central time. Please e-mail me direct > if you have any questions concerning this auction. Thank You > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:33:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David Hartz To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Kr2s Wanted Message-ID: <20030616093310.83235.qmail@web41309.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <69650E3784F08D459F4DBA9E9F7CD69C1E9A2A@sfoexc.itconvergence.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 PATRICK I HAVE AKR2S KIT IN BOAT STAGE HERE IN WILLITS NORTH OF YOU.I AM BUILDING A KR2 AT THIS TIME . DAVE-707-684-0294 --- Patrick Krause wrote: > Does anyone know of a KR-2S completed and flying > that is for sale? I've searched numerous sites and > can't find one anywhere. I'm willing to pay a > premium for a show quality plane. > > Patrick Krause > San Francisco > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:07:43 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: KR>Re: Glass Fuse Message-ID: <3EED96EF.000009.03888@Computer> References: <002401c333c2$e8072440$ed7ba8c0@computer> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6 You wrote >> I will be using glass in place of the plywood=0D =0D Justin, =0D =0D You don't have to wait for time and a situation from which you cannot recover. Why not simulate one of the panels in the fuse covered with gla= ss as you state. Weigh it and a piece of the same size plywood.=0D =0D That way you will know before you have a plane that may be too heavy to f= ly. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From bo124rs@hotmail.com Mon Jun 16 03:37:05 2003 Received: from law10-f64.law10.hotmail.com ([64.4.15.64] helo=hotmail.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19RrMH-0008yp-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 03:37:05 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 03:35:23 -0700 Received: from 64.12.96.201 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:35:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.12.96.201] X-Originating-Email: [bo124rs@hotmail.com] From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Bcc: Subject: Re: KR>Lighting up your KR Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 06:35:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jun 2003 10:35:23.0636 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE32F340:01C333F2] X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: >From: "Mark Youkey" >Since you have them and have played with them...how hot do the light >strings >from autozone get? They don't heat up at all. Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:23:55 -0400 From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Glass fuse Message-ID: <001001c333f9$c63f8230$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 7 Justin, If you are going to go to all that expense and time to glass the fuse, = why not just apply one layer of carbon fiber to the inside and the = outside, and have a lighter and stronger fuse than you are describing. = By the time you apply all those layers, and the materials you are = describing, it would be cheaper to cover it in all carbon fiber. You = also might want to try and e-mail Eduardo in Argentina I think and ask = him how much his all glass fuselage weighs before committing to = glassing. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From n56ml@hiwaay.net Mon Jun 16 05:02:44 2003 Received: from ant.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.10] helo=mail.hiwaay.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19RshA-0009Pr-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:02:44 -0700 Received: from mlangford2 (nokia-1.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5GC11GI1029875 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:01:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <004201c333ff$31ddea90$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <002401c333c2$e8072440$ed7ba8c0@computer> <3EED96EF.000009.03888@Computer> Subject: Re: KR>Re: Glass Fuse Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:02:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Dan wrote: > You don't have to wait for time and a situation from which you cannot > recover. Why not simulate one of the panels in the fuse covered with glass > as you state. Weigh it and a piece of the same size plywood. And when Justin's done that, he needs to make sure that three layers of glass are at least equal in strength and stiffness to a layer of plywood, which they aren't, especially without a foam core, which he didn't mention. Three layers of glass is awfully flimsy, and there's no way that would hold the sections of something like Dr. Dean's boat together without some wooden structure between the sections, or at least a foam core. Three layers of carbon fiber is practically like skinning it in thin steel, but would cost a fortune, and even that would need some sort of structure between cross-sections. The thing that people miss about making these sexy fuselages is that finishing them is going to be a nightmare compared to a plywood boat. Smoothing the sides of a plywood boat in preparation for paint is a 10 minute no brainer. Smoothing a totally composite boat made up of continously compound curves is going to take months if you want perfection in the final finish. But I've got no room to talk about taking the easy way out, I guess... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:04:23 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Lighting up your KR-Now Electrical Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8 I visited with Steve Eberhart and Larry Helming, two 7 builders in Evansville, over the weekend. I had a chance to visit a Harmon Rocker ll builder along with an 8 builder with some homebrew ideas incorporated on his fuselage. In the process, this was my intent, I picked Steve's brain (trained in electronics) and Larry's, well read on aero electrics. First of all, I'm like the Holiday Inn Express guy, no I don't know anything about what I am going to say here, I just know the key words, well maybe a little more now. I would seriously recommend anyone thinking about aero electronics to visit Aeroelectric.com and join the list. Buy the book for $30 and you will be able to easily design and install your electrical runs more efficeintly along with essential redundancy. The basic premise here is to have three buses: a main bus, an essential bus and a battery bus. The battery bus is not switched and is alway hot. This is for things you never want turned off and to always receive current from the batter, ie, electronic ignition. The main bus is just that, the rest of your stuff. The key thing in the design, and it is very simple if I can understand it, is the essential bus. This bus normally sits next to the main bus and normally receives power from the main bus. In case of a short, or runaway alternator regulator that disables your electrical system you simply take the main bus out of the system and now are running off your essential bus. A diode is installed between the essential bus and main bus to keep current from flowing back into the main bus (I even know what they do now). The essential bus carries systems that you determine to be essential to a safe landing. Do you want a radio, do you want your TC to work or how about trim. I know in a KR, the system is not that intricate but the essential bus keeps you from having to shut things down by simply throwing a switch. Some will say, "I can just go to battery and do the same thing." Well, not exactly. He recommends you limit the amps on the essential bus to something like 6 amps. If you have a, say 20 amp battery look how much time you have to do something. It may not now be an emergency. One of neatest things I have seen in his book and illustrations is the use of a current limiter between the alternator and the system. Instead of having to run a big ol thick wire into the cockpit to a fuse or breaker, it is simply a hard contact between the two, on the firewall, that will break if an overvolt situation occurs. I have had first hand experience where a breaker did not break in an overcharge situation when the battery was mistakenly switched out before the generator was removed from the line. A very large spike hit the panel with a great deal of smoke and systems, not of the pilots choosing, were permanently removed from the system. If you have just a main bus installed and can still get too it, I would recommend you look at this and go the essential, battery route. Electric Bob has the part numbers you need and great illustrations. Once again, I'm just the Holiday Inn Express guy who can speak the language but it just learning to understand it. One thing I have learned though is this is elegantly simple, rediculously inexpensive and immeasurable in added safety. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:14:01 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Lighting up your KR-Now Electrical Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 9 BTW, the book covers: Wire selection, wire termination and connectors, circuit protection, switches, relays and contactors, lighting and lighting controls, antennas and needlines (with great illustrations how to fabricate all kinds of antennas. These chapters, in addition to the other electrical circuit chapters, are written in a layman terms. In addtion, there is an appendix Z that has numerous systems laid out. I've got a great website address if you would want to follow a 7 builder's daily electrical building. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:15:49 -0500 From: "Justin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Re: Glass Fuse Message-ID: <001001c33411$c9e062c0$ed7ba8c0@computer> References: <002401c333c2$e8072440$ed7ba8c0@computer> <3EED96EF.000009.03888@Computer> <004201c333ff$31ddea90$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 I didnt weigh but I made a test for comparing strength. Mark, yes it is a foam core, who in their right mind woudl not put foam in each bay. I build a section of the fuselage. One bay and covered one with plywood and one with glass. The plywood snapped before the glass. Carbon fiber is something I am unfamilar with. I take it carbom fiber for the same weight is aprox twice as strong as BID? Can someone fill me in on this one. Justin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 7:02 AM Subject: Re: KR>Re: Glass Fuse > Dan wrote: > > > You don't have to wait for time and a situation from which you cannot > > recover. Why not simulate one of the panels in the fuse covered with > glass > > as you state. Weigh it and a piece of the same size plywood. > > And when Justin's done that, he needs to make sure that three layers of > glass are at least equal in strength and stiffness to a layer of plywood, > which they aren't, especially without a foam core, which he didn't mention. > Three layers of glass is awfully flimsy, and there's no way that would hold > the sections of something like Dr. Dean's boat together without some wooden > structure between the sections, or at least a foam core. Three layers of > carbon fiber is practically like skinning it in thin steel, but would cost a > fortune, and even that would need some sort of structure between > cross-sections. > > The thing that people miss about making these sexy fuselages is that > finishing them is going to be a nightmare compared to a plywood boat. > Smoothing the sides of a plywood boat in preparation for paint is a 10 > minute no brainer. Smoothing a totally composite boat made up of > continously compound curves is going to take months if you want perfection > in the final finish. But I've got no room to talk about taking the easy way > out, I guess... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML at hiwaay.net > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:49:02 EDT From: JSMONDAY@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Janette's Radio Interview Message-ID: <127.2bbdfc74.2c1f4efe@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 In Janette's Radio broadcast on KIT PLANES Radio.. she mentions a KR=20 builder/pilot who sells computers and uses his KR for business.=A0 Does any=20= one know how=20 I can contact this builder/pilot??? Thanks, John Monday jsmonday@aol.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 68, Issue 1 ************************************