From: To: Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 82, Issue 1 Date: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:01 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: New Air Foil Questions (Rick Wilson) 2. Re: New Air Foil Questions (Dan Heath) 3. Steen Skybolt (Brian Kraut) 4. KR1 on Ebay (Rick Wilson) 5. Re: Rotax? (gwvandor) 6. KR inspection checklist (Brian Kraut) 7. Re: chemical corrosion coating for 4130 steel? (Wayne) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 12:02:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Wilson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>New Air Foil Questions Message-ID: <20030629190230.92780.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <006701c33e67$6960a1c0$2321fea9@audiovideo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Russ, Go to Mark Langford's website and I believe you can find any kind of answers you are looking for. Hope this helps, Rick Wilson, rwdw2002@yahoo.com --- Russ & Brenda wrote: > Hey Gang, > We are completeing a KR2-S with the Diehl wing > skins. The wings are bonded > together but not finished. > Here are the questions. > 1. What kind of performance improvements would we > get buy building the new > wings? > 2. What kind of modifications would we have to make > to our stub ends? > 3. Is anyone making wing skins for the new air foil? > 4. Are wing tanks ok in the new foil? > Is anyone actually flying the new wing and can > testify to the increased > performance? > > Thanks, you guys make this so much better than being > on our own, > Russ Houck. > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:11:51 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>New Air Foil Questions Message-ID: <3EFF4807.000001.01488@Computer> References: <006701c33e67$6960a1c0$2321fea9@audiovideo> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 Russ,=0D =0D First, you must answer the most important question. Do you want to build= , or do you want to fly?=0D =0D OH, and I forgot, and how much more money do you want to spend? =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Sunday, June 29, 2003 2:00:35 PM=0D To: KR builders and pilots=0D Subject: Re: KR>New Air Foil Questions=0D =0D Hey Gang,=0D We are completeing a KR2-S with the Diehl wing skins. The wings are bonde= d=0D together but not finished.=0D Here are the questions.=0D 1. What kind of performance improvements would we get buy building the ne= w=0D wings?=0D 2. What kind of modifications would we have to make to our stub ends?=0D 3. Is anyone making wing skins for the new air foil?=0D 4. Are wing tanks ok in the new foil?=0D Is anyone actually flying the new wing and can testify to the increased=0D performance?=0D =0D Thanks, you guys make this so much better than being on our own,=0D Russ Houck.=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2EFrom n56ml@hiwaay.net Sun Jun 29 14:34:08 2003 Received: from ant.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.10] helo=mail.hiwaay.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19WjoG-000PAA-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 14:34:08 -0700 Received: from N56ML (nokia-1.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h5TLWmgj947785 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:32:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003401c3295b$1b196e00$f102a58c@N56ML> From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <006701c33e67$6960a1c0$2321fea9@audiovideo> <3EFF4807.000001.01488@Computer> Subject: Re: KR>New Air Foil Questions Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 18:02:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Dan Heath wrote: > First, you must answer the most important question. Do you want to build, > or do you want to fly? > OH, and I forgot, and how much more money do you want to spend? I have to agree with Dan. If I had the much-sought-after Diehl wing skins sitting on my plane, I'd go ahead and be done with that job in short order and move on. Since nobody makes the new airfoil in wingskin form, it would be a significant time penalty to switch to the new airfoil at this point. But to answer all your questions, visit http://www.krnet.org/as504x/ and the three links available from there for the gory details. I'm solidly convinced that the new wing is an improvement over the old one, but not worth the effort unless you don't have any wings yet, or your present wings need to be replaced anyway... Mark Langford mailto:langford@hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 20:15:37 -0400 From: Brian Kraut To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Steen Skybolt Message-ID: <3EFF8129.2070503@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 I was just browsing on Ebay and there is a set of plans and a bunch of wing ribs for a Steen Skybolt. Current bid is $100.00. Item # 2180754460. Closing in an hour. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 17:35:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Wilson To: engalt@earthlink.net, KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>KR1 on Ebay Message-ID: <20030630003542.54727.qmail@web21201.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3EFF8129.2070503@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4 There is also a KR1 on ebay for sale. It's an airframe minus engine and instruments. (Under ebay motors in the aircraft category) Rick Wilson. rwdw2002@yahoo.com --- Brian Kraut wrote: > I was just browsing on Ebay and there is a set of > plans and a bunch of > wing ribs for a Steen Skybolt. Current bid is > $100.00. Item # > 2180754460. Closing in an hour. > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:26:37 -0500 From: "gwvandor" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Rotax? Message-ID: <001d01c33ec8$2e265030$2fb2fea9@yourib3g4dzt9h> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: RL=20 To: krnet@mylist.net=20 Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 4:55 AM Subject: KR>Rotax? Hello, I am new to the list, so if this has been covered I apologize. = I am curious to know if anyone has successfully used a Rotax (especially = two strokes) on a KR2? Thanks -RayYES AND NO Arotax 532 in a kr1 in canada et did 170 mph at = 5000ft but had carb problems and being rebuilt as a continental 85!! geo = v.From engalt@earthlink.net Mon Jun 30 10:02:10 2003 Received: from grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.116]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19X22c-00066s-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:02:10 -0700 Received: from huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.78.220]) by grouse.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19X21b-0000i6-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:01:07 -0700 Received: from [207.217.78.203] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Mon Jun 30 10:01:07 PDT 2003 Message-ID: <1367489.1056992467351.JavaMail.nobody@huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:07:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Kraut To: krnet@mylist.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Subject: KR>KR cover X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Has anyone had a complete cover made for a KR-2? I need to have one made and the two companies I talked to at Sun N Fun have never done a KR before. I am trying to find a company that already has the patterns done. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:09:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Kraut To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>KR inspection checklist Message-ID: <5127596.1056992570134.JavaMail.nobody@huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Does anyone have a KR condition inspection checklist they can email me? I will write my own, but I would like to get as many from other people as I can find as a starting point. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:13:46 -0700 From: "Wayne" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>chemical corrosion coating for 4130 steel? Message-ID: <00a401c33f2a$f729e480$6801a8c0@HISPEEDWIRELESS.COM> References: <011d01c33d9d$84d88cd0$1202a8c0@basement><001101c33d9f$babb3030$74710c44@blah> <012801c33da0$7abf6090$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 Mark Try gun blue, you can get a smell kit @ WalMart or a gun store. It can rust with constant exposure to Moisture but does a good job of protecting against every day humidty ect. Thanks Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Langford To: KR builders and pilots Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:09 AM Subject: Re: KR>chemical corrosion coating for 4130 steel? > Mark Youkey wrote: > > > I looked in "The Science and Engineering of Materials" and found that > > perhaps the best way is to zinc plate the steel. > > Hey, I have that book too! Guess I should have opened it. > > Actually, I'm looking for something I can do at home, but I may have to go > that way. I also considered powder painting it, which is supposed to be > only .002" thick, but last time I had something coated it looked more like a > .100", and had runs all over it. They make home-brew kits, so that might be > an idea. But plating is a distinct possibility, assuming they can handle > something 8 feet long. Waxing may just get me there too, as long as I > inpect it every time the wings are off, and it'll make it operate with less > friction. Call me optimistic on this one... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 82, Issue 1 ************************************