From: To: Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 115, Issue 1 Date: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:04 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Welders (Steven Lemke) 2. RE: Welders (mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com) 3. Check Your Pulse (Peg and Mike Meyer) 4. Progress report (larry flesner) 5. Re: Progress report (David Hartz) 6. Duplication of parts 7. Re: -folding wings (The Waldrens) 8. Neil Bingham's KR2 (Mark Langford) 9. Re: Duplication of parts ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 17:04:41 -0500 From: "Steven Lemke" To: Subject: KR>Welders Message-ID: <000001c35878$ea776980$90146344@dell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Hey Krnetters I have not posted anything in awhile so I thought I would bring up a issue that I need some education on. I am going to start building my engine mount and pedals so I started to look for a welder to purchase. Campbell hausefield, Chicago electric, Lincoln, schuemaucher and a few more are some of the brands I have found. Then we get into Arc or mig. I have arc welded before and was pretty good at it 20 years ago. I plan on building the pedal assembly myself but the engine mount I just want to tack weld into place and have someone who knows what the are doing finish it up. I also want to be able to build a aluminum intake runners and maybe do a stainless steel exhaust system with it. As always price is a big consideration, Chicago electric is the cheapest and probably the lowest quality while Lincoln is very expensive, is it worth it? This will probably be the only time I will need it is to build my KR or for small repairs, nothing over a 1/8th inch thick(I am not into overkill). Any advise from others out there would be great. P.S. If Mr. Ameet is out there, please drop me a line and let me know what you are up to. Steven Lemke Omaha, Ne slemke@cox.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:35:41 -0400 From: "mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>Welders Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000001c35878$ea776980$90146344@dell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Steve, I would recommend that you invest in TIG. It is the most versatile of the methods available. MIG is best suited for production where the process is worked out and repeated for volume operations. My personal favorite machine is the Lincoln Square Wave 175. Regards, Bob Lee ______________________________ N52BL KR2 Suwanee, GA 30024 91% done only 51% to go! Phone/Fax: 770/844-7501 mailto:bob@flyboybob.com http://flyboybob.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Steven Lemke Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:05 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Welders Hey Krnetters I have not posted anything in awhile so I thought I would bring up a issue that I need some education on. I am going to start building my engine mount and pedals so I started to look for a welder to purchase. Campbell hausefield, Chicago electric, Lincoln, schuemaucher and a few more are some of the brands I have found. Then we get into Arc or mig. I have arc welded before and was pretty good at it 20 years ago. I plan on building the pedal assembly myself but the engine mount I just want to tack weld into place and have someone who knows what the are doing finish it up. I also want to be able to build a aluminum intake runners and maybe do a stainless steel exhaust system with it. As always price is a big consideration, Chicago electric is the cheapest and probably the lowest quality while Lincoln is very expensive, is it worth it? This will probably be the only time I will need it is to build my KR or for small repairs, nothing over a 1/8th inch thick(I am not into overkill). Any advise from others out there would be great. P.S. If Mr. Ameet is out there, please drop me a line and let me know what you are up to. Steven Lemke Omaha, Ne slemke@cox.net _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 20:03:44 -0500 From: "Peg and Mike Meyer" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Check Your Pulse Message-ID: <001301c35891$ece8fc60$d5e2fea9@o0c8u6> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C35868.03205700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C35868.03205700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Found this very unusual car/motorcycle hybrid while surfing on the net. = Apparently, there's a few of these things out there. I've never heard = of them before... More to the point, there's a pretty good owner's = bulletin board associated with this contraptions that has some good info = on plexiglas canopies. Interesting machines... Mike Meyer http://www.pulsefl.0catch.com/index1.htm ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C35868.03205700 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Check Your Pulse.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Check Your Pulse.url" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://www.pulsefl.0catch.com/index1.htm [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.pulsefl.0catch.com/index1.htm Modified=00EFD7079158C3017A ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C35868.03205700-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 05:57:05 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>Progress report Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030802055705.00865100@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <000001c35240$1da8eb60$7e476ad8@jfaughn> References: <000001c34b44$2c97a1a0$ae476ad8@jfaughn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4 My KR went into the paint booth last night a 6:00PM and by 10:30PM it was ALL WHITE !! I'll find out this morning how good it looks in the daylight. I know there are a few runs to sand/buff out and a bug or two to bury this morning but hey, it's progress!! Red Oak ??? Can't rule it out but a long way to go yet. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 06:11:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David Hartz To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Progress report Message-ID: <20030802131107.15254.qmail@web41315.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20030802055705.00865100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 LARRY WHAT PAINT ARE YOU USING,ACRYLIC ENAMEL,URATHANE? DAVE --- larry flesner wrote: > > > > My KR went into the paint booth last night a 6:00PM > and by > 10:30PM it was ALL WHITE !! I'll find out this > morning how > good it looks in the daylight. I know there are a > few runs to > sand/buff out and a bug or two to bury this morning > but hey, > it's progress!! > > Red Oak ??? Can't rule it out but a long way to go > yet. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:33:32 EDT From: SRMAKISH@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Duplication of parts Message-ID: <109.263e862d.2c5d41dc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 I wouldn't believe any figures from Mr. Palmer. He once stated that his Kr cruised at 180 mph. When we really questioned his test pilot at sun and fun a few years ago, he admitted it was in the 140 range. I once saw 250 mph on my airspeed indicator, going straight down from 7000 feet but I won't say it cruises at that speed. Stick with Jennettes stuff and you will be much happier. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:35:03 -0700 From: "The Waldrens" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>-folding wings Message-ID: <003601c35914$06f45640$6c96fea9@holly---paden-s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 I've seen it! I was at the Golden West EAA Show in Marysville back in June. There was a very strange bird that caught my attention. It was a Q-200 that had been radically modified. Both the front and mid wings had been removed and a kr-2 wing was installed in the traditional place ( under the cockpit ) , a spring landing gear was added,and if I remember correctly a "T" style horizontal stablizer was added on top of the tail. The reason the owner did this was the Q-200 was to difficult to handle during the ground ops. If all that wasn't strange enough, the thing that caught my eye was the folding wing! I should have paid more attention to the details but I remember he removed the aft spar and main-lower WAF bolts ( and I suppose the ailrons ) and folded the wing strait up. To do this I would think that he would have had to have a pretty wide gap between his wing and stub wing skins. I shoul have paid more attention to detail but it was hot and by the time I saw this plane I was burned-out. I do remember that the craftsmanship ( at least the exterior ) was less than perfect. It is amazing the quality and apperant condition of some of those aircraft. I wouldn't ride in them if my life depended on it, yet they've been around for years with hundreds of hours on them. By the way, I didn't see any kr's there. Paden Waldren Garden Valley, Ca (Placerville area) Making my oun WAF- and soon alum tube wing tanks. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 11:57:53 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRNet" Subject: KR>Neil Bingham's KR2 Message-ID: <000701c35917$38f70ae0$2402a8c0@800Athlon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Question for you old timers. Neil Bingham wrote his Sport Aviation article "A Critcal Design Review" (at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/neilb.html ). The question is, did he add the dynamic elevator balances BEFORE or AFTER he wrote the article, and did they help? Or did he build it that way from the start, and never tried it both ways? Anybody know his phone number or most recent address? I know he's getting up there in age... Thanks, Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 14:54:55 EDT From: JSMONDAY@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Duplication of parts Message-ID: <1cc.e95679e.2c5d62ff@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 I seemed to be confused on "Jeanette's Specs" being soon to be a new KR Builder, the only specs I know of are the ones on her website... top speed 200, cruise at 180. Are there other specifications that are posted and available somewhere.... like a chart of what everyone is getting for speed, with what engines, gross weight etc available somewhere??? Thanks, John Monday Laguna Beach, CA ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 115, Issue 1 *************************************