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Today's Topics: 1. Re: e-mail (Robert Sather) 2. Re: e-mail (Dan Heath) 3. Re: Building a KR-2 (larry severson) 4. Re: Building a KR-2 (Dan Heath) 5. insurance (Brian Kraut) 6. Insurance (Colin) 7. Re: Insurance (Brian Kraut) 8. spark plugs (Brian Kraut) 9. Re: spark plugs (Ross Youngblood) 10. Re: Insurance (Ross Youngblood) 11. Plugs (Colin) 12. Re: Insurance (Dana Overall) 13. Insurance & Liability (Max Hardberger) 14. axle shims (larry flesner) 15. Re: Building a KR-2 (larry severson) 16. Building a KR 17. Re: Neil Bingham's KR2 (Wayne) 18. member's address ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:27:41 -0600 From: "Robert Sather" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>e-mail Message-ID: <002401c3604f$663a8560$5602a8c0@Belkin> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Attachment sign was there but the attachment was deleted. bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: "mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: RE: KR>e-mail > KRnetters, > > My understanding is that Mark has the attachment capability turned off for > KRnet. If you receive messages with attachments from KRnet, then they are > not legitimate, they were sent from a virus infected computer other than the > KRnet server. > > To test my theory, I'm attaching a jpg picture of my battery to this message > to see if it gets sent out to all of us on KRnet. > > Regards, > > Bob Lee > ______________________________ > N52BL KR2 Suwanee, GA 30024 > 91% done only 51% to go! > Phone/Fax: 770/844-7501 > mailto:bob@flyboybob.com > http://flyboybob.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:32:08 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>e-mail Message-ID: <3F381968.000006.01052@Computer> References: <002401c3604f$663a8560$5602a8c0@Belkin> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 You cannot send attachments via the KR NET. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:28:18 PM=0D To: KR builders and pilots=0D Subject: Re: KR>e-mail=0D =0D Attachment sign was there but the attachment was deleted.=0D bobby=0D =0D =0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com" =0D To: "KR builders and pilots" =0D Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:37 AM=0D Subject: RE: KR>e-mail=0D =0D =0D > KRnetters,=0D >=0D > My understanding is that Mark has the attachment capability turned off = for=0D > KRnet. If you receive messages with attachments from KRnet, then they a= re=0D > not legitimate, they were sent from a virus infected computer other tha= n=0D the=0D > KRnet server.=0D >=0D > To test my theory, I'm attaching a jpg picture of my battery to this=0D message=0D > to see if it gets sent out to all of us on KRnet.=0D >=0D > Regards,=0D >=0D > Bob Lee=0D > ______________________________=0D > N52BL KR2 Suwanee, GA 30024=0D > 91% done only 51% to go!=0D > Phone/Fax: 770/844-7501=0D > mailto:bob@flyboybob.com=0D > http://flyboybob.com=0D >=0D >=0D =0D =0D -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---=0D ----=0D =0D =0D > _______________________________________________=0D > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D >=0D =0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2EFrom flykr2s@wi.rr.com Mon Aug 11 15:52:52 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com ([24.94.166.115]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19mLX2-0005OB-00 for KRnet@mylist.net; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:52:52 -0700 Received: from mark (CPE-65-31-89-55.wi.rr.com [65.31.89.55]) by ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.7) with SMTP id h7BMrb2c020180 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:53:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c3605c$0fd9de20$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:58:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Kitplanes September issue. X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Page 44 of Kitplanes September issue.....how many KR's can you count? Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:50:19 -0700 From: larry severson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Building a KR-2 Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030811164352.029c7f78@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <1da.f088683.2c6688c8@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 Look out. There are no kits, as you think of them. I will finish my plane, but! Everything that I have ordered has come with inadequate instruction and needing significant work and non-standard tools. You need access to a complete machine shop AND an EAA designee who will help a lot. I have become disgusted with even the best of the suppliers. Right now, I have to go out and find a 3/8 inch ream because the engine mount that I ordered was poorly welded, and I can't get an AN6 bolt through it. My plane would be ready to fly now, if I could get parts that actually did as advertized. At 01:26 PM 8/9/2003 -0400, you wrote: > I'm thinking about building a kr-2. Looking for somebody in or around >Connecticut who is building or has one. I'd like to see one before I >purchase A >kit. Thanks > Dan > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:41:15 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>Building a KR-2 Message-ID: <3F3845BB.00000A.01052@Computer> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030811164352.029c7f78@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 4 RE: =0D Look out. There are no kits, as you think of them. I will finish my plane= , but!=0D Everything that I have ordered has come with inadequate instruction and=0D needing significant work and non-standard tools.=0D =0D =0D =0D Larry,=0D =0D I get disgusted also, but the picture isn't as black as all that. There = are suppliers who do supply good parts. You just have to learn who to buy fr= om and who not to buy from. If you ask on the net BEFOR you buy, then you c= an usually get a good source for most anything you want.=0D =0D True, if you want to build everything yourself, you have to be a mechanic= , a welder, a machinist, a plastic bubble maker, and many other crafts that m= ost people do not possess.=0D =0D You have to know your talents and pick and choose what to buy and what to make.=0D =0D I have a motor mount on this KR and had one on the first KR and had no problems with either of them. But spent several months trying to figure = out how to attach and make seat belt attach fittings. Yes, it can be frustrating, but sure is a lot of fun.=0D =0D And another thing, if you like sports cars, you will love flying a KR. I know because I flew one for 6 years and had a blast doing it.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From bo124rs@hotmail.com Mon Aug 11 18:58:46 2003 Received: from law10-f92.law10.hotmail.com ([64.4.15.92] helo=hotmail.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19mOQw-0006L3-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:58:46 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:59:39 -0700 Received: from 152.163.253.1 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2003 01:59:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.253.1] X-Originating-Email: [bo124rs@hotmail.com] From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Bcc: Subject: Re: KR>e-mail Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:59:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2003 01:59:39.0137 (UTC) FILETIME=[6362DF10:01C36075] X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sorry Ed, I'm just getting around to reading your email but like Mark and others say, I didn't send it. Matter of fact, I got it with Virg's address attached to it. My anti virus detected it and deleted the attachment. Look close at the email, they look like they are from the KRnet but really are not. Keep your anti virus updated or save us all the trouble and unplug from the net. That's not directed at any one person, just a blanket statement. Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:55:30 -0400 From: Brian Kraut To: KRNET Subject: KR>insurance Message-ID: <3F385722.5030709@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 From what I understand insurance on a private airplane is not required by anyone, just a good idea. Am I correct on this? Are there any airports that require you to have insurance to land there or to be based there? I got an application for a tiedown space last week and all they wanted to know is if I had insurance on my car before they gave me a ramp pass. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:59:02 -0400 From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Insurance Message-ID: <000a01c3607d$afbc5640$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6 Brian, It is my information that insurance is only required when there is a = loan on the aircraft, required by the loan company to protect their = interest. The FAA does not require it. It is just encouraged due to the = liability if something goes wrong. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From n56ml@hiwaay.net Mon Aug 11 20:05:17 2003 Received: from ant.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.10] helo=mail.hiwaay.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19mPTJ-0006iU-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:05:17 -0700 Received: from basement (user-24-214-88-148.knology.net [24.214.88.148]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with SMTP id h7C368wC557675 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:06:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003501c3607e$d7628650$1202a8c0@basement> From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <000a01c3607d$afbc5640$05462141@Beverly> Subject: Re: KR>Insurance Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:07:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: There was a recent thread on the CorvAircraft list that was started by a guy with a Corvair engine. The only nearby airport required liability insurance on the plane before he could hangar it there, and since his plane has Corvair he couldn't get liability anywhere. Pat Panzera of Contact! magazine and William Wynne (aka "the Corvair Authority") are working to prove the Corvair's safe record to the insurance industry, but until they do, it's kinda iffy... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:10:50 -0400 From: Brian Kraut To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Insurance Message-ID: <3F385ABA.2060803@earthlink.net> References: <000a01c3607d$afbc5640$05462141@Beverly> <003501c3607e$d7628650$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 My airport is a fairly good sized airport owned by the city so I was surprised that they didn't ask for liability insurance. Then again, if the state and the FAA don't require it, a public airport probably doesn't have the right to demand it. Mark Langford wrote: >There was a recent thread on the CorvAircraft list that was started by a guy >with a Corvair engine. The only nearby airport required liability >insurance on the plane before he could hangar it there, and since his plane >has Corvair he couldn't get liability anywhere. Pat Panzera of Contact! >magazine and William Wynne (aka "the Corvair Authority") are working to >prove the Corvair's safe record to the insurance industry, but until they >do, it's kinda iffy... > >Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL >N56ML "at" hiwaay.net >see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:18:09 -0400 From: Brian Kraut To: KRNET Subject: KR>spark plugs Message-ID: <3F385C71.60101@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 I was going to put in a new set of plugs before my first flight and I am trying to decide between using aviation plugs or using a set of Bosch Platinum plugs with the adapters that Great Plains sells (engine is a VW2180 with a single mag). My thinking is that the magneto is designed to for aviation plugs, but the engine is designed for automotive plugs. Automotive plugs are also a light year ahead of aircraft plugs in design. Does anyone have experience with both on a VW conversion that can comment on which is better? Also, can anyone recommend any particular brand of aircraft plug over another? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 04:23:09 +0100 From: "Ross Youngblood" To: engalt@earthlink.net, "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>spark plugs Message-ID: <20030812032309.32522.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 Brian, Platinum plugs are those that allow some cars to go 100,000 miles between tune ups. I think this is because the material wears less in the application. I'm not sure how Platinum would react to leaded fuel. Otherwise I think they should work fine. (I'm no expert). I'm assuming that the adaptors you are speaking of are simply for connecting the magneto to the plug. Below the platinum plug, bosch makes a plug that looks a lot like an aviation spark plug, with multiple electrodes, you might save some $$ by buying those. I think that electricly, the Bosch plug would be fine, as my electronic Comp-U-Fire generates a much higher potential (up to 50,000 volts), than I believe the Magneto does. And these plugs don't break down (i.e. short out) at the higher voltages. -- Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Kraut Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:18:09 -0400 To: KRNET Subject: KR>spark plugs > I was going to put in a new set of plugs before my first flight and I am > trying to decide between using aviation plugs or using a set of Bosch > Platinum plugs with the adapters that Great Plains sells (engine is a > VW2180 with a single mag). My thinking is that the magneto is designed > to for aviation plugs, but the engine is designed for automotive plugs. > Automotive plugs are also a light year ahead of aircraft plugs in > design. Does anyone have experience with both on a VW conversion that > can comment on which is better? Also, can anyone recommend any > particular brand of aircraft plug over another? > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html -- ____________________________________________ http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 04:30:17 +0100 From: "Ross Youngblood" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Insurance Message-ID: <20030812033018.9457.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 My airport (Corvallis, OR) requires 1 million dollars worth of liability if you want to rent a city hangar. However they didn't require any proof of this insurance. I am renting from a private hangar at the field, and although I currently don't have my liability policy current, if I hosed up and hit somthing with my KR, I expect that the fine print on my landlords lease agreement for the land on the city says that his tenants shall maintain the same coverage... so I would be hose-d. Not in motion coverage for my KR (valued at 15K) was 800/yr a few years back. (When I decided not to renew as I had left the airport environment). -- Ross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin" Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:59:02 -0400 To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Insurance > Brian, > It is my information that insurance is only required when there is a loan on the aircraft, required by the loan company to protect their interest. The FAA does not require it. It is just encouraged due to the liability if something goes wrong. > > Colin Rainey KR2(td) > crainey1@cfl.rr.com > Sanford, Florida > FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html -- ____________________________________________ http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:44:21 -0400 From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Plugs Message-ID: <001f01c36084$045477e0$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 Brian, Unless there is a legitimate reason to run other than normal spark = plugs, Ross is right; platinum plugs do not increase the fire but rather = just last longer. BUT, be careful on how you handle the plugs as the = platinum tips are easily damaged, ie knocked off, especially if you are = trying to gap them. Bosch platinum plugs come pre-gapped to = approximately .044, which is a good gap for most late model engines. If = your engine is running between say 8 to 1, 9 to 1 compression then this = is a good gap. Higher than that, and you need a smaller gap to = compensate for the denser air mixture, or it will be too hard for the = spark during constant loads due to the leaner mixture reducing the ease = of firing compared to rich mixture given the same compression ratio. = Just watch the heat range and if given a choice, select a heat range one = step lower rather than higher. That will give added help in preventing = detonation. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From scottie@dragnet.com.au Mon Aug 11 22:41:07 2003 Received: from relay.dragnet.com.au ([203.26.199.6] helo=relay.EMAIL.DRAGNET.COM.AU) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 19mRu6-0008KK-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:41:06 -0700 Received: from scottie (Not Verified[203.35.175.249]) by relay.EMAIL.DRAGNET.COM.AU with NetIQ MailMarshal (v5.5.3.17) id ; Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:43:22 +1000 Message-ID: <002101c32f37$0c5f8840$f9af23cb@scottie> From: "SCOTTIE" To: Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:59:55 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Question X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Hi, I have just acquired a kr2 kit and have a couple of questions. - What is the glide ratio of the kr2 - if wings can be extended ? - Information on handling please If it would make it a little more docile hoping someone can help. thankyou. Scottie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:41:20 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Insurance Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 12 My home airport requires 1 mil of liability coverage also to rent tie down or hangar space. Upon lease renewal, I must provide a copy of the binder for my hangar. I believe this is situation Jeff York was in when he tried to increase his liability coverage and his carrier decided not to offer a renewal. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:39:46 -0500 From: "Max Hardberger" To: , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Insurance & Liability Message-ID: <001a01c360ce$d0dba190$0100a8c0@toshibauser> References: <000a01c3607d$afbc5640$05462141@Beverly><003501c3607e$d7628650$1202a8c0@basement> <3F385ABA.2060803@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 As a non-KR-owner, I can only contribute to this thread from a lawyer/pilot's general perspective: 1. Any airport, even public, has the right to set the conditions for planes based there, as long as the conditions are applied equally, including requiring reasonable liability insurance. 2. The states shouldn't be able to require insurance on airplanes, like they do on cars, since aviation has been held to be so "inherently Federal in nature" that states can't even interfere in it (for example, by requiring an additional state pilot's license). I don't know of any state that does so. 3. Many airports do require liability insurance, but this is usually enforced by merely having a statement on the rental form that the owner has it and will keep it. I have never been asked to produce a copy of the policy or binder. 4. A statement on the rental agreement that you have insurance doesn't affect your liability to whomever you injure or damage subsequently at that airport, but it does give the airport a contractual action against you in addition to the victim's lawsuit. I cannot imagine why an airport would sue under this clause. I would stress, however, that if there were an accident involving a mechanical malfunction in an experimental aircraft--something laymen would find quite foreseeable--and it were shown that the owner/pilot had lied on his application about having insurance, it wouldn't look so good. This would be especially true if an innocent victim were to sustain great pain and disfigurement and a million dollars in medical bills, and is now faced with a cash-strapped owner and no insurance company. 5. Although this is a little off-topic, I would recommend to any owner of an uninsured aircraft that he put the plane's record (FAA) ownership in the name of a corporation. Although there are some simple things--primarily regarding registering the company and keeping corporate accounts separate--that the corporation must do, this affords strong protection against personal lawsuits AS OWNER OF THE AIRCRAFT. This doesn't help a negligent pilot, who can always be sued for his own negligence, but it does help to protect an owner and non-negligent pilot. Negligence can be hard to prove in aviation cases, so corporate ownership is well worth the money. There is nothing improper about placing an airplane under corporate ownership, but of course the corporation has to be formed properly BEFORE a claim arises. The internet is full of advice on how to do it--some states charge as little as $60. Above is not legal advice--an aircraft owner should talk to a lawyer in his jurisdiction regarding whether he needs or should have insurance. Max Hardberger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:01:09 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>axle shims Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030812090109.00882770@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <002101c32f37$0c5f8840$f9af23cb@scottie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 14 Netters, Recent posting discussed the use of axle shims for adjusting the caster and camber of the main gear. I was just at the RV homepage checking on some wheel pants and learned that Vans sells shim stock in 1 degree and .5 degree tappers for adjusting caster and camber and they sell for $8 each. If these are compatable with your axles it would be the best price I've seen on shims anywhere. You might want to check them out. They are under airframe accessories if my memory is correct. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:25:25 -0700 From: larry severson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Building a KR-2 Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030812081459.00bcfd40@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <3F3845BB.00000A.01052@Computer> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030811164352.029c7f78@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 15 > >I get disgusted also, but the picture isn't as black as all that. There are >suppliers who do supply good parts. You just have to learn who to buy from >and who not to buy from. If you ask on the net BEFOR you buy, then you can >usually get a good source for most anything you want. I have bought only from highly regarded, by the KRNet, suppliers and found missing parts, unfinished work, parts that don't fit, etc. >I have a motor mount on this KR and had one on the first KR and had no >problems with either of them. But spent several months trying to figure out >how to attach and make seat belt attach fittings. Yes, it can be >frustrating, but sure is a lot of fun. The motor mount came with no instructions. The openings are loose for AN5 bolts, but AN6 WILL NOT GO IN without reaming. This means that I need to spend days trying to find a 3/8" ream. >And another thing, if you like sports cars, you will love flying a KR. I >know because I flew one for 6 years and had a blast doing it. > I am a military trained pilot with 14,000 hours. I also have studied aeronautics in college. I know what a well built KR2 is capable of. This is why I intend to find a way to finish the plane, but I stand by my complaint that the suppliers are the reason that 85% of builders do not finish. It is scarry that the best are this sloppy. Or, maybe, no one else has gotten consistently poor parts with no QC and little documentation! I have not received a single part from any supplier that did not require grinding, re-taping, or parts additions, even when I bought a series of supposedly compatible components. See you in Red Oak - 2003 I wish I could be there, but my plane is not moving forward rapidly. I spend 95% of my building time trying to fix bad parts. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:45:47 -0400 From: To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Building a KR Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 16 Just a note, I am building my KR in a different sequence than standard. I am building small parts, hardware, and whatever items I can think of. ALL prior to building the boat. I am also keeping a sharp pencil on items as I estimate, price and order. Maybe one day it will be available to future builders. I believe I spent 40 hours just estimating aluminum angle. (ending up with 3.5" x 4" to build most parts.) But that is what I enjoy doing. When I build my boat hopefully I will be able to just bolt on parts as if they came out of a KIT. This ain't my first rodeo... The one thing I can't find in this town is someone to print out the 5048/5046 airfoils. Maybe Mark can help me with that. In all truth I have to build a storage shed to put all the stuff in from the garage before I can take on the larger item. Building parts Staying current in Auburn AL. Steven Phillabaum skphil@charter.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:27:03 -0700 From: "Wayne" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Neil Bingham's KR2 Message-ID: <021401c360f6$f26a9b40$6801a8c0@HISPEEDWIRELESS.COM> References: <000701c35917$38f70ae0$2402a8c0@800Athlon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17 Mark My dad and I visited Neil at his hangar in Borego springs Ca. in the late 90s At that time he had a Kr 1 about 90% complete and a glassair on the gear. I seem to remember that his home was in Laguna Beach Ca. My dad is a friend of his so I will see if he has the current info and pass it on. The Kr 1 was an amazing plane It had dynamically balanced elevators, a removable turtle deck, a model A fuel gage and a ford tractor carburetor which Neil had modified to make in flight mixture control possible. That visit was the day my dads Project in the garage became the Kr we were building together. thanks Wayne > The Anybody know his phone number or most > recent address? I know he's getting up there in age... > > Thanks, > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:36:49 GMT From: ralphndori@juno.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>member's address Message-ID: <20030812.103656.754.575012@webmail06.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 18 Would someone please give me the name and contact information for a builder in Cambridge, Ontario? I am in Michigan now and will be in Ontario next week. I would like to contact him. Ralph Snyder Burbank, CA ralphndori@juno.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 125, Issue 1 *************************************