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Today's Topics: 1. Re: Question (gleone) 2. Flying over IN to Red Oak? (Rich Meyer) 3. Flying over IN to Red Oak? (larry flesner) 4. Re: Wing attachment brackets (Robert Stone) 5. cutting aircraft cable (Oscar Zuniga) 6. Re: cutting aircraft cable (Mark Langford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:20:28 -0600 (Mountain Daylight Time) From: "gleone" To: Subject: Re: KR>Question Message-ID: <3F40E0AC.000007.01008@bce-kfbivsogxl9> References: <20030817.210319.2872.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 There is a powered sailplane version of the KR-1, I believe. If I can f= ind the link, I'll send it along to you as the builder did a really GREAT job= of building it with folding wings. Meanwhile, since most of the posts here = do anything EXCEPT religiously following the plans, there is no reason why y= ou can't extend the wings. Just don't go overboard as a longer wing changes your wing loading and the stresses on your wing spars. I'm building a KR= -1 and am extending the wings a couple of feet either directly or through winglettes (still undecided which way I want to go: Mainly a transport question). I have also widened the fuselage 4 inches. These are the two major planned modifications I'm making. There will probably be others as= I progress with the bird. You can contact me direct if you want at: gleone@tritel.net. =0D =0D Gene =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:09:53 PM=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: Re: KR>Question=0D =0D Glide ratio, good enough DO NOT EXTEND THE WINGS. do not think=0D more docil=0D it will fly great, Virg=0D =0D On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:59:55 +1000 "SCOTTIE" =0D writes:=0D > Hi,=0D > I have just acquired a kr2 kit and have a couple of questions.=0D > - What is the glide ratio of the kr2=0D > - if wings can be extended ?=0D > - Information on handling please=0D >=0D > If it would make it a little more docile hoping someone can help.=0D > thankyou.=0D > Scottie=0D > _______________________________________________=0D > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D >=0D >=0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =0D =2E ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 09:58:17 -0500 From: "Rich Meyer" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: KR>Flying over IN to Red Oak? Message-ID: <000001c36599$2da2ee00$2189d141@ownerwam9o2stk> In-Reply-To: <3F40E0AC.000007.01008@bce-kfbivsogxl9> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 I'm looking for someone flying a KR over Indiana on their way to Red Oak Sept 12-13. I'm part of a just-forming club to build and fly a 2-seater. We're at the stage of talking about what planes different ones of us are interested in, trying to see if our interests match enough to make this work. I'm urging the club to consider building a KR-2 or 2S. 1. If anyone from the east has an empty seat, I'd be glad to pay fuel for a ride to the gathering and back. 2. If anyone from the east could stop here in Goshen IN on their way to or from Red Oak and meet our proto-club, talk about the plane and the building process, give a few of us rides around the pattern . . . We could try to make this work early on Friday, or on Thursday (we could put you up for the night), or on Sunday mid-day. Please respond off-list, Rich H. Meyer cptcsd@npcc.net Phones 574-642-3963/3920 Cell 574-202-3920 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:08:28 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>Flying over IN to Red Oak? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030818100828.007ec4c0@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <000001c36599$2da2ee00$2189d141@ownerwam9o2stk> References: <3F40E0AC.000007.01008@bce-kfbivsogxl9> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 I'm urging the club to consider building a >KR-2 or 2S. >Rich H. Meyer ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Rich, I hope someone can help you out. Personally, I'd not even consider the standard KR2 if you haven't started yet. Go with the 2s if you are going to build anything at all and if this is a multi-owner/builder club project then I'd go with a nose wheel to take in and satisify the greatest number of builders. As sharp looking and "mocho" (sp?) as a taildragger looks I think a nice looking KR with a nosewheel runs a VERY CLOSE second. Now, off to the hangar and work on aileron pushrods and try to stay cool. Forcast is for 94 degrees and air that sweats! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 10:29:42 -0500 From: "Robert Stone" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Wing attachment brackets Message-ID: <004601c3659d$8bcf5f00$ba21f218@hot.rr.com> References: <007201c3651d$29421740$0500000a@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Netters, I made my own WAF's from l/8th inch 4130 steel that I ordered from Acft Spruce. I cut out the pieces on a table saw using a carbide blade and made all of the holes on a drill press. If the cutting and drilling is done slow and the part being cut or drilled is dipped in water often so that it does not get hot the metal will not change, that is to say it will not become soft nor will it become hard and brittle. My KR2 with the WAF's I made flew for almost three hundred hours before it was sold and there never was a failure in that area. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, TX rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Glidden" To: "Krnet" Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: KR>Wing attachment brackets Doe's anyone know if the wing attach fittings have to be heat treated or not. Bob Glidden KR2S N181FW_______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:19:33 -0500 From: "Oscar Zuniga" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>cutting aircraft cable Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 Howdy, folks; [Hmmm... I learned something by getting this post bounced the first time I tried... if an email is not specifically addressed to krnet in the to: line, it goes to the Admin for approval...] You know how all the tips and how-to's for cutting aircraft cable say to use a cold chisel and hammer (including Bingelis' books)? The problem is, once you've gotten your cable fitted and nicopressed in position, at least on one end of the cable there is no way to get a chisel, hammer, or anything else in there to do the cutting. So here's a nifty tip from one of the old Pietenpol newsletters for when you've got the cable all nicopressed in place and are ready to cut off the tag end. Take your Dremel tool with the small abrasive cut-off wheel and use it to slice through the tag end! Slip a small piece of stainless or other metal between the tag end and the standing cable so your cutoff wheel doesn't nick the standing part of the cable as it cuts through, and before you start cutting wrap the whole thing with some masking tape to catch the cutoff bits of cable. And you did remember to slip a piece of heat-shrink tubing over the cable before you fitted the cable and nico, didn't you? After cutting off the excess cable and making sure everything is fitted, cover the nico and cut end with heat shrink tubing (unless you're concerned about your inspector or designee not being able to see that the cables are properly nico'd). Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:56:11 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>cutting aircraft cable Message-ID: <003101c365ba$64870ac0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Oscar wrote: > And you did remember to slip a piece of heat-shrink tubing over the cable > before you fitted the cable and nico, didn't you? After cutting off the > excess cable and making sure everything is fitted, cover the nico and cut > end with heat shrink tubing (unless you're concerned about your inspector or > designee not being able to see that the cables are properly nico'd). That's the only nit my tech couselor had with my plane, the black shrink tubing. He said "wouldn't it be nice if you were able to mark it and then see if it's slipping BEFORE it slips all the way out?" The good news is that there's a such thing as clear heat shrink tubing. I'll use that when I redo all my cables... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 131, Issue 2 *************************************