From: To: Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 137, Issue 1 Date: Sunday, August 24, 2003 12:01 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Homebuilder or Aviation Assembler? (Dana Overall) 2. Update (Mark Jones) 3. RE: Homebuilder or Aviation Assembler? (mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com) 4. Re: (no subject) 5. N541RY Progress... (Ross Youngblood) 6. Re: LED nav lights on sale (Ross Youngblood) 7. firewall and spar question (Justin) 8. Re: N541RY Progress... (Dan Heath) 9. Re: KR Gathering 2003 (Russ Fenlason) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 20:52:01 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Homebuilder or Aviation Assembler? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Hey, mine isn't a quick build it's of the slow build variety. Just wait until I post a picture next Friday, I just may be sitting in it with the firewall and control sticks and arm rests installed. You just never know:-) You are fight, I am loving building this thing. Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: "mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com" >Reply-To: KR builders and pilots >To: "KRnet" >Subject: KR>Homebuilder or Aviation Assembler? >Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:26:22 -0400 > >Dana, > >Since you went over to the "Aluminum Side" I have wondered if you had given >up your creative aircraft skills to become another Van's aircraft >assembler. > >I picked up a quote from Dickens today that has helped me to understand you >better: > >"The whole difference between construction and creation is exactly this: >that a thing constructed can only be loved after it is constructed; >but a thing created is loved before it exists." > --Charles Dickens > >As we all know, you started loving your RV long before it was constructed >so >I guess that means that you are creating aviation even if it is quick >build! > >Regards, > >Bob Lee >______________________________ >N52BL KR2 Suwanee, GA 30024 >91% done only 51% to go! >Phone/Fax: 770/844-7501 >mailto:bob@flyboybob.com >http://flyboybob.com > >Do not archive > > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:01:23 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" , "Corvaircraft" Subject: KR>Update Message-ID: <003a01c369e3$a02cf760$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 I have been making some good progress on my plane. Last weekend I put in = about 16 hours on it and so far this weekend I have put 11 hours = building time on it. You can see my latest creation at my "Photo of the = Week'" page. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/photo.html Please don't laugh too hard at the welding cause I did it all myself and = I am no welder...at least not yet.=20 Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 00:21:59 -0400 From: "mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>Homebuilder or Aviation Assembler? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Dana, Any RV is quick build compared to a KR! I spent all day yesterday looking for materials to finish up my firewall forward and didn't get anything accomplished. Regards, Bob Lee ______________________________ N52BL KR2 Suwanee, GA 30024 91% done only 51% to go! Phone/Fax: 770/844-7501 mailto:bob@flyboybob.com http://flyboybob.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dana Overall Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:52 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Homebuilder or Aviation Assembler? Hey, mine isn't a quick build it's of the slow build variety. Just wait until I post a picture next Friday, I just may be sitting in it with the firewall and control sticks and arm rests installed. You just never know:-) You are fight, I am loving building this thing. Dana Overall Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: "mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com" >Reply-To: KR builders and pilots >To: "KRnet" >Subject: KR>Homebuilder or Aviation Assembler? >Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:26:22 -0400 > >Dana, > >Since you went over to the "Aluminum Side" I have wondered if you had given >up your creative aircraft skills to become another Van's aircraft >assembler. > >I picked up a quote from Dickens today that has helped me to understand you >better: > >"The whole difference between construction and creation is exactly this: >that a thing constructed can only be loved after it is constructed; >but a thing created is loved before it exists." > --Charles Dickens > >As we all know, you started loving your RV long before it was constructed >so >I guess that means that you are creating aviation even if it is quick >build! > >Regards, > >Bob Lee >______________________________ >N52BL KR2 Suwanee, GA 30024 >91% done only 51% to go! >Phone/Fax: 770/844-7501 >mailto:bob@flyboybob.com >http://flyboybob.com > >Do not archive > > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 01:12:18 EDT From: Kr2sN506KR@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>(no subject) Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 http://hometown.aol.com/kr2sn506kr/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:57:17 +0100 From: "Ross Youngblood" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>N541RY Progress... Message-ID: <20030824055717.6698.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 The folks at Ellison Fluid Systems are terrific! I shipped them my EFS-2 to have them take a look,and it came back Thursday (about 1 week later). $62.00 later and all the parts that might have been gummed up by my bonehead use of Auto gas, then letting it sit for two years has been cleared up! I had my KR running like a champ this afternoon. I was going to taxi test, but forgot to remove the wheel chocks, then when I got around to removing it, and putting the cowling back on... well dummy had left the master on and the battery hadn't been fully charged... so at any rate, it wouldn't start. I think I have a problem with my tach reading 1/2 speed. My compu-Fire ignition has two leads from the two coils, and I only have one hooked up... that's my suspicion. I am talking with the COMPU-FIRE folks via email to see what the "tach" adaptor they sell really is. I suspect it is a couple of diodes. My website is back on-line... some of the newer KR-netters who don't know who the ** I am, might like to check it out. http://n541ry.us (n541ry.com is still tied up by someone else and they won't give it back yet). When I get the pictures I took today into the computer I will update the site so it isn't all FLASH stuff, by putting some of the jpg's back on the page from Perry (etc)... but in the meantime, you can see my old site from a year ago at the new link. The recent LED nav light stuff has given me some crazy ideas about lighting.... I'm thinking that if they work out I will share them... -- Ross -- ____________________________________________ http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 07:12:13 +0100 From: "Ross Youngblood" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>LED nav lights on sale Message-ID: <20030824061213.16916.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Virgil, That is a terrific idea! Thanks! I found some nifty composite fasteners in the ACS catalog that would work great to make hardpoints in the wingtip for attaching these... (unless you simply glue them in). (EZ-point nuts & Studs) 04-06330 Aircraft Spruce). I'm getting a few and seeing if they will work to attach some nutplates to my fwd deck for the inst panel. Subject: Re: KR>LED nav lights on sale > Buy large model canopies at the model shop, Virg > > On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:00:52 +0100 "Ross Youngblood" > writes: > > Mark, > > I think John is looking for a solution to the > > problem of fabricating a plexiglas lens for the > > assembly. Although the LED's are sealed, the > > back of the PCB is subject to corrosion, so it probably > > should be enclosed... you could encapsulate the PCB > > in some type of plastic coating. > > Also... hanging all those LED's in the breeze makes > > for some drag as well. -- ____________________________________________ http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 23:55:18 -0500 From: "Justin" To: Subject: KR>firewall and spar question Message-ID: <001b01c369fb$ea949660$d1d91818@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 7 I was looking over the plans and for the firewall forward deck I have a = slight confusion. For the KR2S do we put 2 top firewall members (3 1/2" = X 5/8") back to back?=20 Im also getting ready (wood shopping) for my wing spar wood. Is = there any prblem with using Duglas, anythign special I need to know = before I make a mistake? Justin N116JW www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/Home ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:23:44 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>N541RY Progress... Message-ID: <3F489230.000003.02780@Computer> References: <20030824055717.6698.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 8 Ross,=0D =0D Those movie clips are really cool. Are they on the KRNET.ORG site yet? = I will be glad to post them on our site if you are willing to make them available to me.=0D =0D Also, unless you are commercial and really want a .COM, you could just go and pick up a .ORG. I can't imagine why someone would want your domain n= ame when it is your N number that they can't have. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Sunday, August 24, 2003 1:58:27 AM=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: KR>N541RY Progress...=0D =0D The folks at Ellison Fluid Systems are terrific!=0D =0D =0D My website is back on-line... some of the newer KR-netters=0D who don't know who the ** I am, might like to check it=0D out. http://n541ry.us (n541ry.com is still tied up by=0D someone else and they won't give it back yet).=0D =0D -- RossFrom DanRH@alltel.net Sun Aug 24 03:25:46 2003 Received: from mta02.alltel.net ([166.102.165.144] helo=mta02-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19qs4A-0004z9-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 03:25:46 -0700 Received: from Computer ([151.213.94.185]) by mta02-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20030824102711.EVUY18826.mta02-srv.alltel.net@Computer> for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 05:27:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3F489300.000005.02780@Computer> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:27:12 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: Re: KR>(no subject) Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Mark L.=0D =0D Can stuff without a subject be dumped by the net? When someone just send= s a link and it is someone I don't recognize, I dump it.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Sunday, August 24, 2003 1:12:50 AM=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: Re: KR>(no subject)=0D =20From DanRH@alltel.net Sun Aug 24 03:30:46 2003 Received: from mta02.alltel.net ([166.102.165.144] helo=mta02-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19qs90-00053F-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 03:30:46 -0700 Received: from Computer ([151.213.94.185]) by mta02-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20030824103212.EWRV18826.mta02-srv.alltel.net@Computer> for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 05:32:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3F48942C.000007.02780@Computer> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:32:12 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: <003a01c369e3$a02cf760$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: Re: KR>Update Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: No laughing here. I think it is a great job. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D I have been making some good progress on my plane. Last weekend I put in about 16 hours on it and so far this weekend I have put 11 hours building time on it. You can see my latest creation at my "Photo of the Week'" pag= e. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/photo.html=0D Please don't laugh too hard at the welding cause I did it all myself and = I am no welder...at least not yet.=0D =20From bo124rs@hotmail.com Sun Aug 24 04:26:20 2003 Received: from law10-f34.law10.hotmail.com ([64.4.15.34] helo=hotmail.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19qt0m-0005N6-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:26:20 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 04:27:46 -0700 Received: from 205.188.209.48 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:27:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.209.48] X-Originating-Email: [bo124rs@hotmail.com] From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Bcc: Subject: RE: KR>Homebuilder or Aviation Assembler? Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 07:27:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2003 11:27:46.0868 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE36D740:01C36A32] X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: >From: "mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com" >Dana, >Any RV is quick build compared to a KR! I spent all day yesterday looking >for materials to finish up my firewall forward and didn't get anything >accomplished. >Regards, >Bob Lee Sorry but the KRNet seems a little slow the last couple day so I thought I'd just throw this out:-) Well let see here, I did a little piddling around in the shop yesterday :-), yesterday I flipped the center section over and riveted the bottom skin onto the baggage compartment ribs, aft spar and seat ribs. Flipped it back over and riveted on nutplates for the removable cockpit floor, deburring 5/8" unibit holes and installed snap bushings (provided in bag #whatever) for wiring pass throughs, fitted center section back onto aft fuselage, fitted top longerons, side skins and.............get this.........the two arm rests:-) I spent about five hours in the shop. Today it's time to remove the two longerons, make the forward bends (is that fabricating?) in the front and clamp on the firewall. Been a little too busy with high school football to concentrate on building here lately but it sure is nice to stand on top of the pressbox with two other coaches and get that first game, and win, out of the way. Now it's just JV game on Monday, varsity practice on Tuesday, Weds, Thurs, game on Friday.......then off to college games on Sat. to sit in the stands and watch my oldest son play, then JV game on Monday, varsity practice on Tues............Well you get the point:-) I love it though!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 09:44:31 -0500 From: "Russ Fenlason" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Re: KR Gathering 2003 Message-ID: <002801c36a4e$3a37bab0$0400a8c0@D2M43L01> References: <003a01c369e3$a02cf760$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 I have been trying to get a printout of the new airfoils but haven't been able to make it work. The best that I have gotten is a twenty inch plot.. I dont think that is enough! I just cant get my program to print any bigger. If someone knows of a reasonable plotter program or could bring a set to the gathering I would appreciate it. Also would like to see some of the goodies offered at the gathering like News letter CD's and some of the books on Corvairs and VW's If possible and not a great inconvenience. I ask this with hesitance as I don't want the gatheriong to get as commercial as Oskosh. Thanks Russ Looking forward to Red Oak http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 137, Issue 1 *************************************