From: To: Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 139, Issue 1 Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:01 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Wing wiring (Serge F. Vidal) 2. Re: Migrant KR2 (Timothy Bellville) 3. LED lights (Dana Overall) 4. RE: Migrant KR2 (Serge F. Vidal) 5. RE: Virginia State EAA Fly-In (Jeff Waldron) 6. Re: 2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations! (Russ Fenlason) 7. vw cooling tin 8. RE: Virginia State EAA Fly-In (Donald Reid) 9. roll call 10. Roll call (Jack Cooper) 11. Re: RED OAK - GATHERING (Scott Stanton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:38:58 +0100 From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: RE: KR>Wing wiring Message-ID: <000001c36bbf$590ff750$2c0101c0@ate.com> In-Reply-To: <002001c36b66$fa89b1b0$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Colin, I went through the wing wiring process recently on my KR2. Here is how I did: 1 - I located the position of the nav lights on the wing tips, then glued some sticker templates of my nav lights mounting holes. There are three holes for each: two for the mounting screws, one big hole for the light centerpiece. Then I rivetted some Rivnuts to the skin for the mounted screws. (my nav lights are secured directly to the skin). 2 - I levelled the wing, and placed a piece of tape at the inboard end of the wing as an aiming mark. 3 - I took a long aluminum tube, about 1 cm in diameter; using a large drill bit, I cone-shaped the inside of one end of the tube. Then, using a hacksaw, I serrated the same end, and voila! A 2.5 meter hole saw was born. 4 - I then clamped the tube to the chuck of my electric drill; using the spirit level for vertical reference, and the aiming mark fr horizontal reference, I slowly drilled my way up to the wing root. 5 - I then routed the wire through the tube. This method only induces a very small hole in the ribs, and far enough from the skin; also, the "hole saw" is not powerful enough to damage anything important. In short, I'm happy with the result. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Tunis, Tunisia -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Colin Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:14 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Wing wiring Netters, I know everyone is gearing up for the Gathering, and I wish I were going but... I am trying to wire my wings for the combination position/strobe/rear nav and the wiring that the previous owner installed broke as I was trying to pull new wiring through the wing. Does anyone know a painless way to run the wiring through the wing without opening it up? I tried using a long rod to feed the wiring, but I think I am damaging the ribs and do not want to continue that route. I have Dan Diehl wing skins if that makes a difference. I have already made the cutout in the tip and am ready to install, if I can just feed the necessary wiring to it. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:26:58 -0400 From: "Timothy Bellville" To: , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Migrant KR2 Message-ID: <002201c36bc4$f771fab0$b15f570c@donnas> References: <000c01c36af9$0438d420$2c0101c0@ate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Hi Serge, I wish you luck in your new home, and I hope you can get the red tape successfully cut for your KR. I spent 45 days in north Tunisia back in 1984 as a squad leader in the 22nd MAU ,1stBN8th Marines. I remember the people to be very friendly and happy to see us. But my God were those earthworms huge! Fare skies my friend. Tim Bellville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:03 AM Subject: KR>Migrant KR2 > Dear Netheads, > > My KR2, ZS-WEC, has successfully completed a very long trip, from South > Africa to Tunisia (North Africa). No glory in it: it travelled in a shipping > container, together with my furniture! > Just before I shipped the plane, I finally managed to upgrade the engine > from a stock VW 2 liter, to a fancy 2.4 liter. Also, the electronic ignition > is now full dual. > All that did not go without teething problems. At a point, the brand new > engine even seized, due to a faulty oil bypass valve! The CHT is also on the > high side, so I will probably have to improve the air cooling as well. > Yet, despite the tight schedule, I finally managed to test fly the aircraft > for about two hours. What I can tell you is that it feels very, very > different! Before, considering the high density altitude in Johannesburg, > the plane did not want to take-off. Now, it is reluctant to land! At last, I > understand why people are crazy about the KR. Give it enough power, and it > flies like a dream. I can't wait for a flight at sea level. > > Anyway, the next challenge is just ahead: going through customs in Tunisia. > Here, general aviation, let alone private plane ownership or even > homebuilding, is almost non-existant. It seems that it is the first time > that a plane comes in this country by sea, and customs simply don't know how > to handle it. Understandably, they are also nervous about the "security" > implications. Oh, well! As they say here, Inch'Allah! (As per God's will!) > > I would like to thank Norman Stapelberg, who can rightfully claim all the > credit for the modification, and much, much more. It's people like him that > make homebuilding such a great experience. > > Serge Vidal > KR2 ZS-WEC > Tunis, Tunisia > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:47:49 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>LED lights Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 Here is a quick pic of an LED installed on an F1 Rocket. For what it's worth, Van's sells those plastic position light lens. They come as one piece and the builder cuts them in two. There is plenty of left over material for repositioning. Just looking at mine, I'm thinking it could easily be cut to fit a KR wingtip. I'm sure Van's sells it for dirt cheap. http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/ledlites.html Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:59:17 +0100 From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: RE: KR>Migrant KR2 Message-ID: <000101c36bc9$c9ac0bc0$2c0101c0@ate.com> In-Reply-To: <002201c36bc4$f771fab0$b15f570c@donnas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Hi, Tim! Thanks for sharing that with me. In another life (back in 1990), I also went to Tunisia, as a French Army Academy cadet officer. The whole promotion came here for 4 weeks, and since the President graduated from that same academy, needless to say we were well received. The cherry on the cake was one week commando training in the desert. I still have my training certificate which now adorns the ego wall in my office. I agree, Tunisians are very nice and friendly people, but to get things done here sometimes requires above-average patience. Serge -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Timothy Bellville Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:27 PM To: serge.vidal@ate-international.com; KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Migrant KR2 Hi Serge, I wish you luck in your new home, and I hope you can get the red tape successfully cut for your KR. I spent 45 days in north Tunisia back in 1984 as a squad leader in the 22nd MAU ,1stBN8th Marines. I remember the people to be very friendly and happy to see us. But my God were those earthworms huge! Fare skies my friend. Tim Bellville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:03 AM Subject: KR>Migrant KR2 > Dear Netheads, > > My KR2, ZS-WEC, has successfully completed a very long trip, from South > Africa to Tunisia (North Africa). No glory in it: it travelled in a shipping > container, together with my furniture! > Just before I shipped the plane, I finally managed to upgrade the engine > from a stock VW 2 liter, to a fancy 2.4 liter. Also, the electronic ignition > is now full dual. > All that did not go without teething problems. At a point, the brand new > engine even seized, due to a faulty oil bypass valve! The CHT is also on the > high side, so I will probably have to improve the air cooling as well. > Yet, despite the tight schedule, I finally managed to test fly the aircraft > for about two hours. What I can tell you is that it feels very, very > different! Before, considering the high density altitude in Johannesburg, > the plane did not want to take-off. Now, it is reluctant to land! At last, I > understand why people are crazy about the KR. Give it enough power, and it > flies like a dream. I can't wait for a flight at sea level. > > Anyway, the next challenge is just ahead: going through customs in Tunisia. > Here, general aviation, let alone private plane ownership or even > homebuilding, is almost non-existant. It seems that it is the first time > that a plane comes in this country by sea, and customs simply don't know how > to handle it. Understandably, they are also nervous about the "security" > implications. Oh, well! As they say here, Inch'Allah! (As per God's will!) > > I would like to thank Norman Stapelberg, who can rightfully claim all the > credit for the modification, and much, much more. It's people like him that > make homebuilding such a great experience. > > Serge Vidal > KR2 ZS-WEC > Tunis, Tunisia > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:10:32 -0400 From: Jeff Waldron To: 'KR builders and pilots' Subject: RE: KR>Virginia State EAA Fly-In Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 I will be in dinwiddie I have been studying up on the KR's and would really like to see some up close and personal to see if it is what I an wanting to build. See you there Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Flymaca711689@aol.com [mailto:Flymaca711689@aol.com] Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:03 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Virginia State EAA Fly-In hi all in Kr land. well this is the fly in that wont hurt its free (if you fly in) The show is very nice last year Scott Crosfield flew his 210 to the show so you just might meet him. I spotted him and got to speak to him after all its not every day you meet the fastest man in the world as most know he flew the X15 and possibly the sr71 ? last year i flew my Kr in and also ken wentrot had his kr2s at the show hopefully more krs will show up this year billy mcfarland kr2 flymaca711689@aol.com _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:33:12 -0500 From: "Russ Fenlason" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations! Message-ID: <000f01c36bce$3703d960$0400a8c0@D2M43L01> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Reservations are in. Russ and Dorine are planning to be there. KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:39:56 EDT From: Flymaca711689@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>vw cooling tin Message-ID: <29.46cb17d1.2c7caf1c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 Under your heads you have a 1x1 orifice or deflector is it used on the aircraft. or do you just use the tins reason being i just overhauled the engine and lost one on the test flight it can be made easy but is it nessery?great planes just shows the cly baffles billy mcfarland 2w6 flymaca711689@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:48:04 -0400 From: Donald Reid To: KR builders and pilots Subject: RE: KR>Virginia State EAA Fly-In Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20030826084017.01c516e8@pop.erols.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8 At 08:10 AM 8/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: >hi all in Kr land. well this is the fly in that wont hurt its free (if you >fly in) last year i flew my Kr in and also ken wentrot had >his kr2s at the show hopefully more krs will show up >this year > >billy mcfarland Information about the Virginia State EAA fly-in may be found at http://vaeaa.org Since I am both the fly-in's webmaster and a KR builder, KR's will be featured in the various photos posted on the site. In the first 6 years of the fly-in, we have had Gary Hinkle twice, as well as Billy and Ken last year. I hope to see more this year on September 20 and 21. Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.orgFrom klw1953@juno.com Tue Aug 26 07:46:16 2003 Received: from m03.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.66]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19rf5M-00042i-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:46:16 -0700 Received: from cookie.untd.com by cookie.untd.com for <"EQtoFgNDcyLHgKPX22S71hJlwWyPoYpx3PFyuMXywGpO/TQ0HuDa/A==">; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:47:20 PDT Received: (from klw1953@juno.com) by m03.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id H8H2MKYB; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:47:20 PDT To: krnet@mylist.net Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:46:16 -0400 Subject: Re: KR>Virginia State EAA Fly-In Message-ID: <20030826.104617.1308.0.klw1953@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-4,6-43 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I'll be there weather permitting. Judy Sparks said she'll order the weather herself. I'll be coming down a little farther to the east to avoid all that good ADZ stuff.------------------------6399U On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:48:04 -0400 Donald Reid writes: > At 08:10 AM 8/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >hi all in Kr land. well this is the fly in that wont hurt its free > (if you > >fly in) last year i flew my Kr in and also ken wentrot had > >his kr2s at the show hopefully more krs will show up > >this year > > > >billy mcfarland > > Information about the Virginia State EAA fly-in may be found at > http://vaeaa.org > > Since I am both the fly-in's webmaster and a KR builder, KR's will > be > featured in the various photos posted on the site. > > In the first 6 years of the fly-in, we have had Gary Hinkle twice, > as well > as Billy and Ken last year. I hope to see more this year on > September 20 > and 21. > > > > > Don Reid mailto:donreid@erols.com > Bumpass, Va > > Visit my web sites at: > KR2XL construction: http://users.erols.com/donreid/kr_page.htm > Aviation Surplus: http://users.erols.com/donreid/Airparts.htm > EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org > Ultralights: http://usua250.org > VA EAA State Fly-in: > http://vaeaa.org_______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:37:36 EDT From: MilFritz@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>roll call Message-ID: <22.3d1f3054.2c7cd8c0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 I too , will be at red oak, Im Fritz Hady from Mt.Top,Penna. I have akr-2 that needs wing skins ,wiring and cowl. It has a type IV vw of about 2100 cc Its bored and stroked ,electric start and alternator . See you on the 10 th . Fritz. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:21:04 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Roll call Message-ID: <410-22003822616214540@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 10 Sorry for the triple reply to the roll call. Still trying to get used to Earthlink. Robert J. (Jack) Cooper kr2cooper@earthlink.net http://www.jackandsandycoooper.com/kr2 Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.From idrawtobuild@ncinternet.net Tue Aug 26 09:45:15 2003 Received: from voyager.netxn.com ([65.204.176.41]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19rgwV-0007QV-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:45:15 -0700 Received: from greg (02-148.138.popsite.net [66.248.34.148]) by voyager.netxn.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with SMTP id h7QGkTq0016920 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from idrawtobuild@ncinternet.net) From: Greg Martin Message-ID: <002b01c36bf1$9dfd0100$6401a8c0@greg> To: "KR builders and pilots" References: Subject: Re: KR>RED OAK - GATHERING Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:46:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I would love to go to Red Oak, but not that I'm unaware of a place called Red Oak here in Calif. I just believe your talking about a location in the eastern 1/2 of the country. Where the H...! is Red Oak. Greg Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Leverton" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:55 PM Subject: Re: KR>RED OAK - GATHERING > Count me in. I also know that chuck cornelius and his wife will be there, > but I dont think he is on this list. Jim Leverton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:36:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Stanton To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>RED OAK - GATHERING Message-ID: <20030826173649.57149.qmail@web11903.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <002b01c36bf1$9dfd0100$6401a8c0@greg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11 Well, I would point you to http://www.krgathering.org but it seems to be down right now. The short version (as seen on http://www.krnet.org) is: The "Official" 2003 KR Gathering will be in Red Oak, Iowa, with Mike/Terry Garbez and Steve/Linda Bennett hosting the affair, on Sept. 12-13. See lots of details, including things for your family to do while YOU're busy drooling over KRs, at 2003 KR Gathering . The short version is that the Red Oak Municipal Airport (RDK) is located 1/2 mile west of town at 1674 200th Street Red Oak, IA 51566 phone is (712) 623-6523 or 41 00.63N 95 15.59W U122.8. There are two motels, they are The Red Coach Inn (712) 623-4864, and the Super 8 Motel 1-800-800-8000. Both are within 1 1/2 miles of the airport. Motel reservations can be made anytime now (the sooner the better). Also the banquet will be held Saturday evening at the Red Coach Inn Banquet Room. If you have any questions e-mail Mike Garbez at msgtlg@netins.net. Being the lazy soul that I am, I already have reservations for the Red Coach, at a pretty nice price too, I might add (something like $45). You can expect about 10-20 KRs to fly in for the Gathering, depending on the weather and whether or not the FAA has shut down general aviation at the time. This is THE place to put your hands on real KR aircraft so don't miss it! If you're light and lucky, you might just get a ride in one. You won't likely forget it soon either. The die-hards will arrive on Thursday, and I sincerely hope to be one of the guys FLYING this year!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still not going to make it myself, hopefully I'll see some of you at the VA EAA on Sept 20th though. Scott Raleigh NC --- Greg Martin wrote: > I would love to go to Red Oak, but not that I'm > unaware of a place called > Red Oak here in Calif. I just believe your talking > about a location in the > eastern 1/2 of the country. > > Where the H...! is Red Oak. > > Greg Martin __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 139, Issue 1 *************************************