From: To: Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 142, Issue 1 Date: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:01 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Take a Ride (Lex R Baer) 2. Airfoil (Colin) 3. New airfoil (Larry A Capps) 4. Road to Red Oak 5. What am I doing wrong? 6. Re: Cowling (Dan Heath) 7. Red Oak (Brian Kraut) 8. Re: What am I doing wrong? (larry flesner) 9. Re: Red Oak (larry flesner) 10. Re: Red Oak (Mark Jones) 11. Re: Red Oak (Brant Hollensbe) 12. Re: What am I doing wrong? (David Lininger) 13. Re: Red Oak (Dennis Dyer) 14. Re: 2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations! (bill kirkland) 15. Re: Red Oak (Dan Heath) 16. Re: Tach (Ross Youngblood) 17. Re: Re: KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations! (Jack Cooper) 18. Red Oak (James Leverton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:53:31 -0600 From: Lex R Baer To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Take a Ride Message-ID: <20030828.142947.332.1.BAERTEDI@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 I want a ride in a KR2. Anyone near the front range of Colorado who would be willing to take me for an introductory ride please call or e-mail me off-line. A local builder suggested Red Oaks this year but I have conflicts. Lex Baer, Pueblo Colorado (719)566-3577 baertedi@juno.com Deciding what aircraft to build has been a challenging endeavor, and I am not familiar with anyone in my area with a finished KR. As a retired engineer and longtime pilot, I have no trouble evaluating the KR from a construction point but I really would like to see what a KR feels like on the ground and in the air. Lex Baer baertedi@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:33:06 -0400 From: "Colin" To: Subject: KR>Airfoil Message-ID: <001101c36dab$f971dd10$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 Dan, You are so right and I misspoke myself, mainly referring to the lack of = test data on the RAF 48 when it was decided to be used, vs. the new wing = actually being developed for the KR2 specifically. I am sure that = between the KR2s and the Taylor monoplanes that have been built there = are many thousands of successful examples of the use of this = wing/airfoil design. I too would use the new wing if I needed to re-do our wings here, = probably as Mark has and use the AS5046 airfoil, in order to simplify = retrofit to the existing wing stubs. Now I wonder how the new airfoil would do with the KR2 twin engine = combination..... Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From skphil@charter.net Thu Aug 28 14:55:18 2003 Received: from rems01.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.8.201]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19sUje-0005Lc-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:55:18 -0700 Received: from [68.190.59.84] (account ) by rems01.cluster1.charter.net (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0.6) with HTTP id 55069773 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:56:57 -0400 From: Subject: Re: KR>RED OAK - GATHERING To: KR builders and pilots X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.4.0.6 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:56:57 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00d201c36d6c$141c4b40$2cfcd241@clapp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 09:52:13 -0400 "William Clapp" wrote: >If anybody is driving from the East coast - >Florida/georgia/AL area and want >a rider/driver to accompany - let me know. Its a long >haul from here and >two or three make a long trip much faster and more >pleasent. Thanks - >Bill > Bill did you get my post? Steven Phillabaum skphil@charter.net Auburn, Alabama I don't know if I am going due to my schedule. But if I do go I would like someone to accompany me. Looks like a long drive. I bought a new Atlas today but haven't calculated the drive yet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:29:27 -0500 From: "Larry A Capps" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: KR>New airfoil Message-ID: <000c01c36dbc$39a37a00$0400a8c0@schpankme> In-Reply-To: <001101c36d1e$71e9f3b0$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 I'd like to point out that the RAF48 is a very good airfoil and many have flown thousands of accumulated hours with it. The AS50xx series of airfoil provides for a Laminar Wing, which allows for increased performance through drag reduction. The other benefits offered by the AS50xx is the ability to build a stronger spar and increased volume in the wing for fuel. Larry A Capps KR Newsletter CD Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- Keep in mind that the RAF 48 airfoil is not tried or proven, especially for the KR2. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:21:15 EDT From: Goreebethray@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Road to Red Oak Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Anyone from the Ft Worth-Dallas area going to the Gathering who would like a sharing passenger? (or be one?) Contact me on the net or at goreebethray@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:40:38 EDT From: Goreebethray@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>What am I doing wrong? Message-ID: <1e4.f0fb442.2c7ffb06@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 I have tried to get a message on the net twice and have failed. I was instructed to contact http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html . I did twice to no avail. What's next,please? Ray ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:00:25 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>Cowling Message-ID: <3F4EA5A9.000001.01488@Computer> References: <002901c36dc4$1bc94a20$0700a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6 Jim,=0D =0D I'm glad you are going to be there, we can talk more about it there. I d= o believe that I am going to have to build another cowl either before I fly= or after the ugly of this one causes me to choke. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:24:23 AM=0D To: krnet=0D Subject: KR>Cowling=0D =0D Dan,=0D =0D In answer to your question about finishing my cowling mold, I used quick drying drywall mud, and applied it about 1/8 inch thick. I then sanded it= to final shape, ending with about 400 grit paper. I applied three coats of varnish, letting them dry 24 hours between coats. (By the way, the varnis= h will soften the drywall, so it will be streaked if you use a bristle brus= h.) I found the foam brushes give a much better finish.=0D =0D I applied three liberal coats of alcohol based mold release (bought it at Spruce), then plied up three plies of glass. I plied them at 60 degree.=0D =0D I split the top and bottom, then reattached it using aluminum piano hinge and flathead pop rivets. I put a 1/4 inch thick layer of Lastafoam on the inside, then one coat of KR glass.=0D =0D The bottom cowling is attached with piano hinges at the sides and bottom. The rear of the top cowling connects with six Dzus fasteners.=0D =0D Your final question was whether I see anything on landing. Usually, I'm s= o scared of landing hard that I usually have my eyes closed in the flare.=0D Actually, I'm about a year from flying the KR-2.=0D =0D See you in Red Oak.=0D =0D Jim Vance=0D Vance@ClaflinWildcat= s com_______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2EFrom patrick36@usfamily.net Thu Aug 28 19:08:40 2003 Received: from gv-m2.usfamily.net ([207.225.145.202]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19sYgp-0009rB-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:08:39 -0700 Received: from [207.218.44.104] by usfamily.net (USFamily MTA v2.0.1) with SMTP id com for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:06:38 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from patrick36@usfamily.net) Message-ID: <005301c36dd1$f15cf760$682cdacf@oemcomputer> From: "Patrick Driscoll" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <1e4.f0fb442.2c7ffb06@aol.com> Subject: Re: KR>What am I doing wrong? Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:04:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Message came through 5/5 Pat Driscoll ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:04:24 -0400 (GMT) From: Brian Kraut To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Red Oak Message-ID: <8183026.1062126190583.JavaMail.nobody@huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 I wasn't expecting to go to Red Oak, but just for giggles I checked the prices of commercial flights and found out I could go round trip for under 150 bucks. Looks like I can be counted in. Unfortunately, my KR will be staying home this year since it may or may not have made its first flight since I have had it before the gathering. I can either get there Friday night and leave Saturday night or I can get there Saturday about 3:00 and leave Monday. Are there still a lot of KRs there on Sunday or do most people leave Sunday morning? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:10:44 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>What am I doing wrong? Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030828221044.008016b0@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <005301c36dd1$f15cf760$682cdacf@oemcomputer> References: <1e4.f0fb442.2c7ffb06@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8 >Message came through 5/5 > Pat Driscoll +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Pat, Are you an old Crypto or teletype maint type? I haven't heard the 5/5 phrase since the military 36 years ago! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:16:18 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Red Oak Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030828221618.00794100@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <8183026.1062126190583.JavaMail.nobody@huey.psp.pas.earthli nk.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 9 >I can either get there Friday night and leave Saturday night or I can get there Saturday about 3:00 and leave Monday. Are there still a lot of KRs there on Sunday or do most people leave Sunday morning? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I would suggest that you do the Friday nite/ Saturday thing to get the most benifit from the trip. Things will be winding down Saturday afternoon late to get ready for the banquet and EVERYONE leaves Sunday morning. At least that's the way it's been the last thirteen years. As always, your results may vary. :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:26:55 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Red Oak Message-ID: <00e101c36ddd$65a7c680$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> References: <8183026.1062126190583.JavaMail.nobody@huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Brian, If I were you I would get there Friday and leave Sunday or Saturday late if you have to. Most everyone will leave out Sunday morning. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: KR>Red Oak > I wasn't expecting to go to Red Oak, but just for giggles I checked the prices of commercial flights and found out I could go round trip for under 150 bucks. Looks like I can be counted in. Unfortunately, my KR will be staying home this year since it may or may not have made its first flight since I have had it before the gathering. > > I can either get there Friday night and leave Saturday night or I can get there Saturday about 3:00 and leave Monday. Are there still a lot of KRs there on Sunday or do most people leave Sunday morning? > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:12:54 -0500 From: "Brant Hollensbe" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Red Oak Message-ID: <000501c36d76$db52a1a0$1902a8c0@WorkGroup> References: <8183026.1062126190583.JavaMail.nobody@huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11 ----- > I can either get there Friday night and leave Saturday night or I can get there Saturday about 3:00 and leave Monday. Are there still a lot of KRs there on Sunday or do most people leave Sunday morning? Brain, If last years gathering is any indication, Sun. morning, We all gather at the airport to say goodbye and visit one last time. Then the planes start to depart and most everybody is gone by 2 pm. You do not want to miss the banquet on Sat. night. If for nothing else but to hear the KR Sanding Song (don't ask, you gotta be there). See you all there Brant Hollensbe West Des Moines IA Bhollensbe@mchsi.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:24:18 -0500 From: David Lininger To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>What am I doing wrong? Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030828222404.00a658d0@mail.positech.net> In-Reply-To: <1e4.f0fb442.2c7ffb06@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 12 At 08:40 PM 8/28/03 -0400, you wrote: >I have tried to get a message on the net twice and have failed. I was >instructed to contact http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html . I did >twice to no >avail. What's next,please? Ray >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html You got this one on! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:30:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Dyer To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Red Oak Message-ID: <20030829033022.E394F414C@sitemail.everyone.net> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 Brian, We don't know each other, but if you need a ride from the airport (Omaha?) on the first option, I'd be available...maybe save car rental for you..I need to be on the road back to Colorado on Monday so the second option wouldn't work too good with my schedule. I just bought the plans for my kr2s this summer and before I begin construction I'd like to see one in person and be able to pick someones brain. Selfish on my part to have a captive audience for a couple of hours! Anyway there's the offer, Dennis Dyer http://www.mtnguy.com/kr2s --- Brian Kraut wrote: >I wasn't expecting to go to Red Oak, but just for giggles I checked the prices of commercial flights and found out I could go round trip for under 150 bucks. Looks like I can be counted in. Unfortunately, my KR will be staying home this year since it may or may not have made its first flight since I have had it before the gathering. > >I can either get there Friday night and leave Saturday night or I can get there Saturday about 3:00 and leave Monday. Are there still a lot of KRs there on Sunday or do most people leave Sunday morning? > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _____________________________________________________________ Get your free e-mail address http://www.mtnguy.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:59:02 -0400 From: "bill kirkland" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations! Message-ID: <00bf01c36df2$a5a568e0$02488a3f@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 14 Will arrive Thur. about 4 or 5 in my trusty 1960 C-150. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkland@rogers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "gpasc" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations! > To all of those who are coming to the Gathering: > > Please make sure you have made your room reservations by September 1. After > that date, the rooms we have blocked for the Gathering go back into their > inventory and are open to the public. Hotel information can be found at: > http://www.krgathering.org > > Please continue your RSVPs to the Roll Call. I have been keeping track of > them for a headcount to plan for food. > > 2003 KR Gathering focus will be: "Celebrating First Flights". Forums and > discussions will be focused on how to get you and your aircraft ready for > your first flight. > > If you have any questions or concerns, please email off the list. > > Linda Bennett > gpasc@earthlink.net > 2003 KR Gathering > Secretary/Treasurer > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:15:00 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: , Subject: Re: KR>Red Oak Message-ID: <3F4F27A4.000003.01488@Computer> References: <20030829033022.E394F414C@sitemail.everyone.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 15 RE: I can either get there Friday night and leave Saturday night or I ca= n get there Saturday about 3:00 and leave Monday. Are there still a lot of = KRs there on Sunday or do most people leave Sunday morning?=0D =0D =0D You want to be there all day on Saturday. The planes leave Sunday mornin= g after breakfast and by around 10am, all are gone. Also, you don't want = to miss the banquet on Saturday night.=0D =0D We got $141 from Atlanta to KC Mo. round trip and are coming in on Thur a= nd leaving Sun.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From VANCE@claflinwildcats.com Fri Aug 29 04:17:28 2003 Received: from 63-245-139-250.kitusa.com ([63.245.139.250] helo=mail.claflinwildcats.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 19shFv-000F3v-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:17:27 -0700 Received: from oemcomputer ([]) by mail.claflinwildcats.com (Merak 5.7.4) with SMTP id EYB37074 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:19:05 -0500 Message-ID: <005501c36e8c$9419c720$0200a8c0@oemcomputer> From: "JIM VANCE" To: "krnet" Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 19:18:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Tach X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Bill, The tach on my Renegade has a 1000 ohm resistor between the ignition = system and the tachourmeter. If the tach were to go to a dead short, = the ignition system would never know it. The tach on my KR is a capacitor pickup--the lead is wrapped for two = turns around one of the spark plug wires. Yes, it does work with = shielded plug wires. Most solid state tach have been designed so they can't interfere with = the engine spark. Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.comFrom bo124rs@hotmail.com Fri Aug 29 04:47:07 2003 Received: from law10-f14.law10.hotmail.com ([64.4.15.14] helo=hotmail.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19shid-000FDy-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:47:07 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:48:47 -0700 Received: from 152.163.253.1 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:48:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [152.163.253.1] X-Originating-Email: [bo124rs@hotmail.com] From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Bcc: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 07:48:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2003 11:48:47.0393 (UTC) FILETIME=[819C7110:01C36E23] Subject: KR>Is it Friday already.......... X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: OK, the net has been busy with Red Oak messages here lately so here is change of pace. BTW, after attending several gathering and host it twice, I must say, if you are interested in the KR airplane or simply want to hang out with some great people who share similar interests, do not miss the gathering. Just get ready to start building, or get back to building, when you leave:-) I am going to have to miss this years gathering. I am on the staff of a AAAA high school football team. My commitments to that endeavor preclude me from attending. Have a great time. OK, let the slideshow begin.........this has been a fun week. Here is a shot from the front. It's all come together. http://rvflying.tripod.com/fus1.jpg One from the back http://rvflying.tripod.com/fus2.jpg A neat one through the firewall recess......notice the armrests:-) http://rvflying.tripod.com/fus3.jpg And finally............I GOT TO MAKE AIRPLANE NOISES!! http://rvflying.tripod.com/fus4.jpg I got my fuselage kit on July 2 and have missed out on about 10 days of building, not including the 6 days for Oshkosh. I will end up having my fuselage to the quickbuild stage in less than 2 months (a savings of $3500)............did I mention.............I have the "slow build" variety:-) You gotta love it. Although most builders have the fuselage upside down at this stage, it has been much easier for me to build it rightside up and just lean over, instead of crawl under. I used two sawhorses and an adjustable roller as my third sawhorse. When I got it all together I put the Smart Level on it. From firewall to aft bulkhead it was 2/10 of a degree out. A rear deck is installed later and is used to "straighen things up". I'm not sure I can do any better than 2/10 of a degree with a drill and rivets, I'm going to try though:-) After this I fabricated two false spars and bolted those onto the center carrythrough, put casters on the bottom and stood in on it's "gear" for the first time. In the pictures above. the top longeron is sitting 6/10 of a degree tail low for level flight attitude. I'll remove the casters and adjust the tail height when I get to the stage of installing the wings for incidence setting. I plan on a good weekend of work with final drilling, removal, deburring, dimpling, priming and reassembly. By next weekend, I'll have it all riveted together. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host. Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Enter for your chance to IM with Bon Jovi, Seal, Bow Wow, or Mary J Blige using MSN Messenger http://entertainment.msn.com/imastar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 17:08:17 +0100 From: "Ross Youngblood" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Tach Message-ID: <20030829160818.29758.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16 Thanks for this post! This is why reply all is so cool. I am working on my tach issue. GPASC doesn't sell the Tach Adaptor with the Compu-Fire ignition, so I'm in the process of designing up a diode circuit to hook up the two coils so that I don't read 1/2 RPM. (Current problem de jour). The note about a 1000ohm resistor is an interesting one to prevent the tach shorting the ignition. I know if the tach sending wires are grounded, it will suppress one half of the coil. (Old story, but 1/2 VW sounds pretty good). I've got some recent KR photos getting placed on CD, and my old n541ry.com domain is now mine again, so I should have some new photos up by the end of the labor day weekend. Subject: KR>Tach > Bill, > > The tach on my Renegade has a 1000 ohm resistor between the ignition system and the tachourmeter. If the tach were to go to a dead short, the ignition system would never know it. > > The tach on my KR is a capacitor pickup--the lead is wrapped for two turns around one of the spark plug wires. Yes, it does work with shielded plug wires. > > Most solid state tach have been designed so they can't interfere with the engine spark. > > Jim Vance > Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com_______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html -- ____________________________________________ http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 10:27:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Jack Cooper To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: Re: KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations! Message-ID: <4286588.1062178052263.JavaMail.nobody@scooter.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17 Bill Sounds like we will arrive about the same time. Hope you have good weather for your flight. See you there Jack -------Original Message------- From: bill kirkland Sent: 08/29/03 01:59 AM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations! > > Will arrive Thur. about 4 or 5 in my trusty 1960 C-150. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkland@rogers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "gpasc" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: KR>2003 KR Gathering - Hotel Reservations! > To all of those who are coming to the Gathering: > > Please make sure you have made your room reservations by September 1. After > that date, the rooms we have blocked for the Gathering go back into their > inventory and are open to the public. Hotel information can be found at: > http://www.krgathering.org > > Please continue your RSVPs to the Roll Call. I have been keeping track of > them for a headcount to plan for food. > > 2003 KR Gathering focus will be: "Celebrating First Flights". Forums and > discussions will be focused on how to get you and your aircraft ready for > your first flight. > > If you have any questions or concerns, please email off the list. > > Linda Bennett > gpasc@earthlink.net > 2003 KR Gathering > Secretary/Treasurer > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:29:17 -0500 From: "James Leverton" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Red Oak Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 18 Wondering if anyone from the Twin Cities, MN is heading down to the fly-in. Would like to rideshare if possible. Email me off line at jfred65@hotmail.com Thanks Jim _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 142, Issue 1 *************************************