From: krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:38 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 154, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Pushrod fairings (Dan Heath) 2. Re: Notams 3. Re: tailwheel training 4. Re: Notams 5. rudder travel stops 6. Re: tailwheel training (Dana Overall) 7. Re: change of operating limitations 8. Re: Mertic system [ NON_KR SUBJEST] (Ron Eason) 9. Re: advise requested - landing gear purchase (Steve Glover) 10. License (Colin) 11. Re: advise requested - landing gear purchase (Clancey D Krumwiede) 12. Re: License (David Mikesell) 13. 4 Steps to Building Composite Fuel Tanks (Larry A Capps) 14. Re: Notams (Fraser McGregor) 15. Re: Notams (Mark Youkey) 16. RE: License (mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com) 17. Transponder antenna location (Serge F. Vidal) 18. Any contacts in France? (Serge F. Vidal) 19. RE: Mertic system [ NON_KR SUBJEST] (Serge F. Vidal) 20. Re: advise requested - landing gear purchase (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:48:26 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>Pushrod fairings Message-ID: <3F5E82EA.000013.02996@Computer> References: <001001c377a4$cd8cbb40$0a00a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 Jim,=0D =0D I don't know of anyone who has faired in the aileron control and I think = it would be most difficult for little reward.=0D =0D I made a cover attach angle bracket that I attached to the wing attach fitting, but I can't remember exactly how. The current owner of that pla= ne will be at the gathering and maybe he can help. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:05:14 PM=0D To: krnet=0D Subject: KR>Pushrod fairings=0D =0D I want to put fairings around the aileron pushrods. What is the best way = to attach them to the painted wing surface so they will stay on, but I can remove them for inspections?=0D =0D Also, what's the best way to attach the cover over the joint between the wings and the stub wings?=0D =0D Jim Vance=0D =20 Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com=0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2EFrom JStephenz@aol.com Tue Sep 09 18:52:40 2003 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.161]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19wu9w-000NsR-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 18:52:40 -0700 Received: from JStephenz@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id g.a7.35a11311 (4380) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:54:32 -0400 (EDT) From: JStephenz@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:54:32 EDT Subject: Re: KR>voltmeter To: krnet@mylist.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 10582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Thanks for the feed back I found that the EIS warning light that I replaced was drawing too many amps now that I disconnected the light the volts are at 13.4. I still am working on a poorly running compufire that seems to have an unrelated problem. thanks again ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:10:35 EDT From: AviationMech@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Notams Message-ID: <126.30a114d8.2c8fe21b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 In a message dated 9/9/2003 7:56:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, myoukey@cox.net writes: > used on guard, Please for us un informed, what is Guard?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:10:56 EDT From: JEHayward@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>tailwheel training Message-ID: <31.3da47734.2c8fe230@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 In a message dated 9/9/03 7:22:29 PM Mountain Daylight Time, bo124rs@hotmail.com writes: << Brian's question related to whether it was legal to operate an experimental class tailwheel airplane without the actual endorsement. >> I saw a post here a couple of years ago concerning flying an experimental float plane... no endorsement was required since it was registered Experimental. I would think the same thing would apply to a taildragger. Jim Hayward Rapid City, SD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:13:31 EDT From: JEHayward@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Notams Message-ID: <9c.35063e5d.2c8fe2cb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 In a message dated 9/9/03 8:11:10 PM Mountain Daylight Time, AviationMech@aol.com writes: << Please for us un informed, what is Guard?? >> Guard Channel is a separate receiver in most aviation radios that is fixed tuned to 121.5 MHz and 243.0 MHz if you have a UHF radio. Jim Hayward Rapid City, SD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:14:50 EDT From: JStephenz@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>rudder travel stops Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 I have noticed today that the rudder has eaten away at the fiberglass tail section. Isn't some sort of rubber or metal rudder stop supposed to be in place? Now the rudder jams against the elevator surface making for a potentially dangerous situation. Joel kr2s ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:20:44 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>tailwheel training Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6 Dan, the grandfather clause was instituted in 1991 for pilots with prior tailwheel experience. Any pilot post 1991 has to have a tailwheel endorsement to fly a certified tailwheel airplane, which is short of a flight review. Thus getting your tailwheel endorsement does not take the place of a required bi-annual. An instrument/commercial/multi etc. checkride qualify as a bi-annual. I have forgotten if there is an hour figure for grandfathering or if it was just tailwheel solo. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: "Dan Heath" >Reply-To: KR builders and pilots >To: >Subject: Re: KR>tailwheel training >Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:00:55 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) > >Is there really such a thing as a "tailwheel" endorsement. I have a >good many hours in a tailwheel KR and have no such "endorsement". I >was either lucky or not lucky back when I first flew mine because there >either was no such rule, or I was oblivious to it. I knew almost >nothing about flying a tailwheel and certainly was lucky to get through >it without killing myself or destroying my plane. > >I need a refresher, a long one, to get my license current before flying >again and asked my "to be" instructor if he had a tailwheel plane to >give me the instruction and check ride in, no luck there. > >It is too bad that there isn't a school somewhere in the country that >specializes in tailwheel training, like the RV "transition" school. >However > for that, you even have to already be experienced in the type plane that >you are getting transition training for. > >N64KR > >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > >DanRH@KR-Builder.org > >See you in Red Oak - 2003 > >See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic >See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > _______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _________________________________________________________________ Use custom emotions -- try MSN Messenger 6.0! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_emoticon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:26:38 EDT From: AviationMech@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>change of operating limitations Message-ID: <94.3cb07385.2c8fe5de@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 In a message dated 9/9/2003 8:10:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JSMONDAY@aol.com writes: > can you sign it off for IFR also??? You can only sign off the items authorized by your authority(license). To equip a plane for IFR means to install specific equipment and have completed specific certifications on the radio's, pitot static, and other systems. Some of which require different types of authority. For example an airframe mechanic can install a radio. However, he can not certify that it is within it's designed operating limits. He can operate it, test it, but not work on it. For example an airframe mechanic can perform a static test, but he can't certify static instruments such as an altimeter Orma AKA AviationMech KR2 N110LR 1984 to Present www.members.aol.com/aviationmech also see me at www.aviation-mechanics.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:42:40 -0500 From: "Ron Eason" To: , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Mertic system [ NON_KR SUBJEST] Message-ID: <003a01c37745$344ee3e0$6401a8c0@Administration> References: <410-2200393100756490@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 One system is no better than the other, it's just a system of measurements. I work with both all the time. I would give the edge to English because it gets you thinking in different base numerical systems. Nature and the Universe is not based on the 10's system. I stimulates a better understanding of math. KRRon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Cooper" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: Re: KR>Mertic system > I think it was a big mistake not to go to metrics. The world is on one > standard and we in the USA on another. Metrics is so easy to learn if > we would just do it. Just try to work on an American car and see how > many fasteners are American and how many are metric. You never know > which wrench > to pick up. > > Robert J. (Jack) Cooper > kr2cooper@earthlink.net http://www.jackandsandycoooper.com/kr2 > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Mark Langford > > To: KR builders and pilots > > Date: 9/7/03 6:34:32 PM > > Subject: Re: KR>Building a KR2 > > > > Fraser wrote: > > > > > I just wish all you guys would give your measurements in real terms, ie > > > millimeters, kg, Newtons, etc, instead of these ancient english imperial > > > things. Pity you didn' t throw the imperial system overboard with the > tea > > > in Boston, all those years ago! Makes my head ache, having to do the > > > conversions. > > > > I agree wholeheartedly! We almost got smart and made the big move to > metric > > in the seventies, but somehow the effort got side tracked, and we're mired > > in the dark ages again. There's nothing worse than a slug! I'm 100% for > > the move to metric. I lived in Germany for three years and loved it (and > > for many other reasons)... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:55:40 -0700 From: "Steve Glover" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>advise requested - landing gear purchase Message-ID: <002701c37747$055d74a0$79f2fea9@IntelliSpec> References: <20030909.122025.1733.129048@webmail15.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 I have new castings, and maybe even the cross bar. The castings ahave never been drilled. You can have them for shipping and packaging. I need the space in my garage. Regards, Steve Glover Rancho Sant Margaita, ca. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:19 PM Subject: KR>advise requested - landing gear purchase > > I am considering buying "unused" landing gear castings and crossbar from someone advertising them on the net. I have been sent pictures which I would be happy to e-mail to anyone willing to evaluate them and advise me as to their value and condition. They are for the KR-1. Anyone willing to take a look? > > Keith C. Krumwiede > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:18:25 -0400 From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>License Message-ID: <002c01c3774a$32ecf0a0$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 10 One exception: the KR2 being a 2 seat aircraft, and not an ultralight, = must have a private license to operate. Dana is correct: paragraph i(1) of the FAR 61.31 states that anyone = desiring to act as pic must have a one time training and endorsement for = acting as pic for a tailwheel airplane. No exception is given for = experimental operation. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From crainey1@cfl.rr.com Tue Sep 09 20:24:51 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.1.43]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19wvb9-000PQ8-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 20:24:51 -0700 Received: from Beverly (5.70.33.65.cfl.rr.com [65.33.70.5]) by ms-smtp-01.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h8A3R1AZ013788 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:27:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005901c3774b$1c129be0$05462141@Beverly> From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:24:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Complex X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Yes Dana is correct. You only need a complex endorsement when operating an aircraft that has: = flaps, adjustable pitch prop and retractable gear. Constant speed prop = is not necessary so long as the prop pitch can be changed in flight. = That is why the guys with the newer Ivoprop, and Warp drive props = qualify with their electric adjustable hubs. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From larry.capps@comcast.net Tue Sep 09 20:41:15 2003 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19wvr1-000Pce-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 09 Sep 2003 20:41:15 -0700 Received: from schpankme (12-251-66-163.client.attbi.com[12.251.66.163](untrusted sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20030910034326014005in4he>; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:43:27 +0000 From: "Larry A Capps" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:44:27 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c3774d$d69b6080$0200a8c0@schpankme> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20030909185245.007c2a80@pop.midwest.net> Importance: Normal Subject: KR>ground plane X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: larry.capps@comcast.net, KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: To make a Transponder antenna, make the radiating rod from an AN-4 bolt, with the head removed. This bolt will be 2.65 inches from the tip to the ground plane, and insulated from the ground plane. Make the ground plane from .062 aluminum, 5.3 inches in diameter. Attach the center conductor to the radiating rod, and the co-ax ground to the ground plane. Sources: http://rst-engr.com/ - Jim Weir (RST Engineering) http://fly.hiwaay.net/~langford/antennas.html - Mark Langford (On Line Builders Manual) Regards, Larry A. Capps Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- I want antennas transponder no idea as to what size they would have to be. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:38:38 -0500 From: Clancey D Krumwiede To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>advise requested - landing gear purchase Message-ID: <20030909.223838.2384.1.red-bridge@juno.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=--__JNP_000_7cfe.4acf.0e2e MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_7cfe.4acf.0e2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, Thanks for the offer. I will most definitely keep it in mind. The set being offered to me seems complete, but I'm not familiar enough with them to be sure. I have attached one of the pictures as I am hoping that anyone who is familliar with them could spot anything obviously wrong. Again, thanks for the responce and offer. Keith Krumwiede Rosedale, IN (home of the strawberry festival and smack dab in the middle of the "World Famous" Covered Bridge Festival; yee haw!) On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:55:40 -0700 "Steve Glover" writes: > I have new castings, and maybe even the cross bar. The castings > ahave never > been drilled. You can have them for shipping and packaging. I need > the > space in my garage. > > Regards, > > Steve Glover > Rancho Sant Margaita, ca. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:19 PM > Subject: KR>advise requested - landing gear purchase > > > > > > I am considering buying "unused" landing gear castings and > crossbar from > someone advertising them on the net. I have been sent pictures which > I would > be happy to e-mail to anyone willing to evaluate them and advise me > as to > their value and condition. They are for the KR-1. Anyone willing to > take a > look? > > > > Keith C. Krumwiede > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ----__JNP_000_7cfe.4acf.0e2e-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:22:33 -0700 From: "David Mikesell" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>License Message-ID: <001b01c37753$284afda0$06fea8c0@davids> References: <002c01c3774a$32ecf0a0$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 That is true of certified airplanes. If you check in the Experimental category it says "you must be licensed" and that is all. I even checked with the local FSDO and their response is that endorsements for tailwheel, complex and such do not apply to experimental category aircraft. You just must hold a valid pilots license and be current. They also added that when looking at homebuilts that they prefer to see a pilot with tail wheel time if it is a taildragger and may write into the operational limitations for the aircraft being licensed that a properly endorsed pilot may be the only operator of the aircraft, but normally that is not done. David Mikesell 23957 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-609-8774 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: KR>License One exception: the KR2 being a 2 seat aircraft, and not an ultralight, must have a private license to operate. Dana is correct: paragraph i(1) of the FAR 61.31 states that anyone desiring to act as pic must have a one time training and endorsement for acting as pic for a tailwheel airplane. No exception is given for experimental operation. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:59:48 -0500 From: "Larry A Capps" To: "KR Builders List \(E-mail\)" Subject: KR>4 Steps to Building Composite Fuel Tanks Message-ID: <001501c37758$5ce2ca20$0200a8c0@schpankme> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 13 Builders have successfully constructed composite fuel tanks using foam/epoxy since the early 1970’s. The secret to building a durable fuel tank is a thick, well-cured epoxy coating. To minimize long-term performance problems the following is recommended: 1. Carefully metered resin/hardener ratio’s is critical to epoxy performance. When mixing epoxy for tank coatings, it’s recommended that a resin-rich / hardener-lean mixture be used at the outer limits of the manufactures acceptable mixing range. This is because excess resin in epoxy matrix is less likely to adversely affect the physical properties of cured epoxy than excess hardener. When excess hardener is in the epoxy matrix, it cannot fully react with the resin and will become suspended in the mixture. 2. Coat all interior surfaces with 4-coats of rolled epoxy. After it is rolled on, brush the epoxy out to minimize any entrapped air. Install surge baffles to minimize free surface effect, using generous fillets and giving them the same 4-coats of epoxy as the rest of the tank interior. Any tank openings, such as fill, vent should be oversized and also receive 4-coats of epoxy. All fasteners should be epoxy bonded in place to secure any hardware to the tank or in the construction of the tank. 3. Scrub cured epoxy thoroughly with water and a scouring/abrasive pad. This removes any surface contamination, specifically any potential amine blush that may form on the surface. Amine blush is water-soluble and can be removed with tap water. The scrubbing action agitates the surface to help with removal. 4. Post cure at an elevated temperature, 140° F for 8 hours (after epoxy has cured at room temperature and can no longer be dented with your thumbnail). All sizes of fuel tanks have been successfully constructed with foam/epoxy and used with great results. In testing, various epoxy combinations have proven to be resistant to various liquids, including gasoline, diesel fuel, motor oil, etc. Regarding gasoline specifically, some epoxy combinations are more resistant than others, however with the increasing use of alcohol and other high-tech additives, it is unsure how the epoxy will resist them in the future. Refs: Gougeon Brothers, Inc.; Patrick Ropp Best Regards, Larry A Capps KR Newsletter CD Naperville, IL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:00:23 +1000 From: Fraser McGregor To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Notams Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030910145729.024058e0@pop.qut.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <004e01c3772c$8ad929a0$7e7e0c44@blah> References: <004c01c376cf$9c727340$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 14 I am interested in why you shouldn't be squarking 1200 "especially when you aren't talking to center." Bear in mind I am in Australia. Here in Oz that isn't a problem, even if flying OCTA and without a flight plan. I know this isn't KR post, but humour me, anyway At 06:46 PM 9/09/2003 -0500, you wrote: >I happen to be a crew dog on AWACS, and found myself dealing with Air Force >-Not talking to center >-Not squawking anything >-Squawking 1200 (especially when you aren't talking to center) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 00:48:33 -0500 From: "Mark Youkey" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Notams Message-ID: <00e201c3775f$2b8dfd30$7e7e0c44@blah> References: <004c01c376cf$9c727340$05462141@Beverly> <5.1.0.14.2.20030910145729.024058e0@pop.qut.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15 > I am interested in why you shouldn't be squarking 1200 "especially when you > aren't talking to center." Bear in mind I am in Australia. Here in Oz > > At 06:46 PM 9/09/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >I happen to be a crew dog on AWACS, and found myself dealing with Air Force > >-Not talking to center > >-Not squawking anything > >-Squawking 1200 (especially when you aren't talking to center) Basically, by squawking 1200, you are telling the world you are doing your own thing. When it is my job to protect a specific airspace, I want to know what everyone is doing in that area. If you are flying VFR, and squawking 1200, you are doing everything right...BUT, you are piquing my interest, so, depending on a lot of other factors (maybe you are in the wrong place at the wrong time), I may send someone in to check you out. I mean, squawking 1200 and not talking to center is one step away from not squawking and not talking to center--and I would assume guys in "my" airspace doing that are up to something sneaky. Any normal day, flying VFR is all well and good, but not if Air Force One is overflying you. That's all I was getting at. Hope I cleared that up for you. Mark Youkey myoukey@cox.net Oklahoma City ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 03:28:13 -0400 From: "mailbox bob at mail.flyboybob.com" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>License Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002c01c3774a$32ecf0a0$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16 Colin wrote << No exception is given for experimental operation. >> This is not true according to FAR part 61.31.k(2)(iii). I cut and pasted it from faa.gov below: k) Exceptions. (2) The rating limitations of this section do not apply to-- (iii) The holder of a pilot certificate when operating an aircraft under the authority of an experimental or provisional aircraft type certificate; By the way, I found this by typing "experimental" into the FAR search engine at faa.gov and this popped up as the only place experimental was found in part 61. You should avail yourself of the far search engine. It makes it quite easy to determine if something is or is not in the regs. Regards, Bob Lee ______________________________ N52BL KR2 Suwanee, GA 30024 91% done only 51% to go! Phone/Fax: 770/844-7501 mailto:bob@flyboybob.com http://flyboybob.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Colin Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:18 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>License One exception: the KR2 being a 2 seat aircraft, and not an ultralight, must have a private license to operate. Dana is correct: paragraph i(1) of the FAR 61.31 states that anyone desiring to act as pic must have a one time training and endorsement for acting as pic for a tailwheel airplane. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:31:17 +0100 From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: KR>Transponder antenna location Message-ID: <000501c37779$69229c90$2c0101c0@ate.com> In-Reply-To: <007601c37713$b7d0bc20$fe393818@ph.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17 In my KR , the transponder antenna has been mounted under the baggage compartment shelf. Aneat, uncluttered location, with way more space available than under the seat. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Tunis, Tunisia -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Bob Sauer Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:48 PM To: kr Subject: KR>(no subject) In trying to hold the cost of my KR2S project in line, I want to use a 22" COM antenna that I have, but need some help on how to create a ground plane for it. Also, want to do the same thing for the ELT, GPS and Transponder. I want to put the antennas vertically in the rear of the fuselage, except for the transponder which I will put under the pilot seat projecting to the exterior. I am thinking alum disks would work, but have no idea as to what size they would have to be. Any help or suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks From: resauer@cox.net Sun City West _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:34:29 +0100 From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: KR>Any contacts in France? Message-ID: <000601c37779$70f776c0$2c0101c0@ate.com> In-Reply-To: <1db.108cb66b.2c8fa2fb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 18 In an attempt to save my KR from the local Customs services, I need to contact experimental aircraft builders/owners in France. Are there any here? Someone got a contact? Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Tunis, Tunisia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:50:47 +0100 From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'Ron Eason'" , "'KR builders and pilots'" Subject: RE: KR>Mertic system [ NON_KR SUBJEST] Message-ID: <000701c37779$7608eb30$2c0101c0@ate.com> In-Reply-To: <003a01c37745$344ee3e0$6401a8c0@Administration> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 19 I will challenge that. The beauty of the Metric system is that all units (length, mass, volume, etc.) are related in a decimal way. For example, one cubic meter is just 1000 liters. Try to do the same when dealing with pounds and inches! Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Tunis, Tunisia -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Ron Eason Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:43 AM To: kr2cooper@earthlink.net; KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Mertic system [ NON_KR SUBJEST] One system is no better than the other, it's just a system of measurements. I work with both all the time. I would give the edge to English because it gets you thinking in different base numerical systems. Nature and the Universe is not based on the 10's system. I stimulates a better understanding of math. KRRon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Cooper" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: Re: KR>Mertic system > I think it was a big mistake not to go to metrics. The world is on one > standard and we in the USA on another. Metrics is so easy to learn if we > would just do it. Just try to work on an American car and see how many > fasteners are American and how many are metric. You never know which wrench > to pick up. > > Robert J. (Jack) Cooper > kr2cooper@earthlink.net > http://www.jackandsandycoooper.com/kr2 > Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Mark Langford > > To: KR builders and pilots > > Date: 9/7/03 6:34:32 PM > > Subject: Re: KR>Building a KR2 > > > > Fraser wrote: > > > > > I just wish all you guys would give your measurements in real terms, ie > > > millimeters, kg, Newtons, etc, instead of these ancient english imperial > > > things. Pity you didn' t throw the imperial system overboard with the > tea > > > in Boston, all those years ago! Makes my head ache, having to do the > > > conversions. > > > > I agree wholeheartedly! We almost got smart and made the big move to > metric > > in the seventies, but somehow the effort got side tracked, and we're mired > > in the dark ages again. There's nothing worse than a slug! I'm 100% for > > the move to metric. I lived in Germany for three years and loved it (and > > for many other reasons)... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL > > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 05:36:02 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>advise requested - landing gear purchase Message-ID: <3F5EF082.000015.02996@Computer> References: <20030909.223838.2384.1.red-bridge@juno.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 20 You must send the picture directly to me as they will not go through the KRNet. See my e-mail address below. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:44:30 PM=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: Re: KR>advise requested - landing gear purchase=0D =0D Steve,=0D =0D Thanks for the offer. I will most definitely keep it in mind. The set=0D being offered to me seems complete, but I'm not familiar enough with them= =0D to be sure. I have attached one of the pictures as I am hoping that=0D anyone who is familliar with them could spot anything obviously wrong.=0D =0D Again, thanks for the responce and offer.=0D =0D Keith Krumwiede=0D Rosedale, IN (home of the strawberry festival and smack dab in the middle= =0D of the "World Famous" Covered Bridge Festival; yee haw!)=0D =0D On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:55:40 -0700 "Steve Glover" =0D writes:=0D > I have new castings, and maybe even the cross bar. The castings=0D > ahave never=0D > been drilled. You can have them for shipping and packaging. I need=0D > the=0D > space in my garage.=0D >=0D > Regards,=0D >=0D > Steve Glover=0D > Rancho Sant Margaita, ca.=0D >=0D >=0D > ----- Original Message -----=0D > From: =0D > To: =0D > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:19 PM=0D > Subject: KR>advise requested - landing gear purchase=0D >=0D >=0D > >=0D > > I am considering buying "unused" landing gear castings and=0D > crossbar from=0D > someone advertising them on the net. I have been sent pictures which=0D > I would=0D > be happy to e-mail to anyone willing to evaluate them and advise me=0D > as to=0D > their value and condition. They are for the KR-1. Anyone willing to=0D > take a=0D > look?=0D > >=0D > > Keith C. Krumwiede=0D > >=0D > > _______________________________________________=0D > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D > >=0D >=0D >=0D > _______________________________________________=0D > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D >=0D >=0D =20From DanRH@alltel.net Wed Sep 10 02:38:25 2003 Received: from mta01.alltel.net ([166.102.165.143] helo=mta01-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19x1Qf-0002ap-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:38:25 -0700 Received: from Computer ([151.213.88.254]) by mta01-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20030910094037.GNQM824.mta01-srv.alltel.net@Computer> for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2003 04:40:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3F5EF199.000017.02996@Computer> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 05:40:41 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: Re: KR>rudder travel stops Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Sure, you should have stops, but maybe you need more clearance on the elevator. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Red Oak - 2003=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:34:18 PM=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: KR>rudder travel stops=0D =0D I have noticed today that the rudder has eaten away at the fiberglass tai= l=0D section. Isn't some sort of rubber or metal rudder stop supposed to be in place?=0D Now the rudder jams against the elevator surface making for a potentially= =0D dangerous situation.=0D =0D Joel kr2s=0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2E------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 154, Issue 1 *************************************