From: krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Red Oak or Bust! (Scott Cable) 2. Re: Mark Langford's assistant (cartera) 3. kr2 prop needed 2100d revmaster (kevin) 4. Re: kr2 prop needed 2100d revmaster (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 5. Pushtube (Colin) 6. Pushtube 7. Re: Pushtube (Dana Overall) 8. Pushtubes (Colin) 9. Re: AUTOPILOT (Max Hardberger) 10. Re Fly in (bill kirkland) 11. taildragger (Colin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 15:14:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>Red Oak or Bust! Message-ID: <20030912221440.68306.qmail@web40812.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Seeings how I wasn't able to make Osh this year because of a MOVE! See ya all in Red Oak if you haven't left already. My Wife and I are leaving at Oh Dark Thirty in the morning from St. Louis! Safe flying and driving!(flying is a relative term) Hope to see my KR buddies there! ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Linden, MI s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:45:27 -0600 From: cartera To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Mark Langford's assistant Message-ID: <3F624C87.2080109@cuug.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: <021701c3794a$588fdd70$6401a8c0@RMSDELL> References: <021701c3794a$588fdd70$6401a8c0@RMSDELL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 OK!!!but I want my sand bucket BSHADR wrote: > Folks: > > > > I'm Randy Stein, a moldy-oldie on this list (#6 to sign up when Mike > Graves started it back before dirt). I play (poorly) an assistant > KRNet babysitter around here. Mark is off having a good time. This > does not mean we should not live our age and act in a civil manner. I > would hate to be forced to vote anyone off of the island.but as my Mom > would say, "I brought you into this world and I can take you out!" > > > > Saturday through Thursday is (hopefully) for KR related posting. > Friday is normally off KR but still generally aircraft building/flying > related. This is not the RecAviation list. If you have been there, > you know what I mean. Keep the quality of the list high by thinking > before you hit send.sometimes you can hit delete instead by rereading > what you wrote. Just ask yourself: Does it improve the list in an > aircraft building/flying manner? Take personal skirmishes off list. > Most of us (yawn) could care less if your Daddy can beat up my Daddy! > > > > Now go out and play nice in the sandbox. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Randy Stein > > South Soviet Monica, CA > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:15:38 -0700 From: kevin To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>kr2 prop needed 2100d revmaster Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20030912211538.007bd140@pop3.wcoil.com> In-Reply-To: <004001c37935$2c75c890$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 Hello , I purchased a flying kr2 approx 1 year ago . However i found out the prop on the plane is not the one listed in the log book or the prop the plane was registered and originally issued its airworthness certificarte with , so to aviod another faa inspection and all the wait since the flight characteristics are changed . I am looking for a prop 52 diameter 42 pitch , to put back on the plane , even a used one to get through inspection with ect,would work . So if anyone has a used or new prop they want to part with for a 2100d revmaster please let me know . mierz@wcoil.com . Thanks Kevin ,, ada airport ada ohio >Dean and others >Please read slowly; Dana's point has nothing to do with the opinions expressed by Dean or anyone else. He is stating that these discussions are non-KR topics, and belong on some other forum not here. Political, religious, and moral discussions have forums galore! Utilize them; keep this one KR! > >Colin Rainey KR2(td) >crainey1@cfl.rr.com >Sanford, Florida >FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:56:33 -0400 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>kr2 prop needed 2100d revmaster Message-ID: <20030912.215633.2716.0.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Kevin-------I too have a 2100 revmaster but I use a 54X50 culver prop, the reason for this posting is that a 42" pitch may be a little low for a good cruise prop. I have no problem maintaining 3200 rpm in cruise flight and 3400 full throttle. My climb is decent as well. On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:15:38 -0700 kevin writes: > Hello , > > I purchased a flying kr2 approx 1 year ago . However i found out > the prop > on the plane is not the one listed in the log book or the prop the > plane > was registered and originally issued its airworthness certificarte > with , > so to aviod another faa inspection and all the wait since the flight > > characteristics are changed . I am looking for a prop 52 diameter > 42 > pitch , to put back on the plane , even a used one to get through > inspection with ect,would work . So if anyone has a used or new prop > they > want to part with for a 2100d revmaster please let me know . > mierz@wcoil.com . Thanks Kevin ,, ada airport ada ohio > >Dean and others > >Please read slowly; Dana's point has nothing to do with the > opinions > expressed by Dean or anyone else. He is stating that these > discussions are > non-KR topics, and belong on some other forum not here. Political, > religious, and moral discussions have forums galore! Utilize them; > keep > this one KR! > > > >Colin Rainey KR2(td) > >crainey1@cfl.rr.com > >Sanford, Florida > >FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________ > >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 22:20:31 -0400 From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Pushtube Message-ID: <004a01c3799d$9b0b20d0$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 Dana and others, Would it be okay to add another 1 inch tube over top of the 3/4" and = secure it at both ends with the same AN3 bolts, effectively doubling the = span? Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From mierz@wcoil.com Fri Sep 12 20:37:21 2003 Received: from smtp-01.wcoil.com ([65.17.128.6]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19y1Dt-0000nN-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 12 Sep 2003 20:37:21 -0700 Received: (qmail 4998 invoked by uid 104); 13 Sep 2003 03:39:40 -0000 Received: from mierz@wcoil.com by smtp-01.wcoil.com by uid 101 with qmail-scanner-1.14 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4292. Clear:. Processed in 1.689616 secs); 13 Sep 2003 03:39:40 -0000 Received: from pm8-46.lima.da.wcoil.com (HELO default) (65.17.134.158) by smtp-01.wcoil.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2003 03:39:38 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030912234659.00870210@pop3.wcoil.com> X-Sender: mierz@pop3.wcoil.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 23:46:59 -0700 To: KR builders and pilots From: kevin Subject: Re: KR>kr2 prop needed 2100d revmaster In-Reply-To: <20030912.215633.2716.0.klw1953@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: hi ken ,, thanks for the info , I do have a 47 pitch , but unfortunatly the logs dont reflect the change , and it is,nt the pitch the aircraft was issued its vertificate with , so to avoid the faa wait time to come out and the 5 hrs flying required , signoffs and new perf limitaions , i want to put the 42 back on just to get the condition inspection done ,,, thanks Kevin , ada airport ada ohioAt 09:56 PM 9/12/03 -0400, you wrote: >Kevin-------I too have a 2100 revmaster but I use a 54X50 culver prop, >the reason for this posting is that a 42" pitch may be a little low for >a good cruise prop. I have no problem maintaining 3200 rpm in cruise >flight and 3400 full throttle. My climb is decent as well. > > > >On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:15:38 -0700 kevin writes: >> Hello , >> >> I purchased a flying kr2 approx 1 year ago . However i found out >> the prop >> on the plane is not the one listed in the log book or the prop the >> plane >> was registered and originally issued its airworthness certificarte >> with , >> so to aviod another faa inspection and all the wait since the flight >> >> characteristics are changed . I am looking for a prop 52 diameter >> 42 >> pitch , to put back on the plane , even a used one to get through >> inspection with ect,would work . So if anyone has a used or new prop >> they >> want to part with for a 2100d revmaster please let me know . >> mierz@wcoil.com . Thanks Kevin ,, ada airport ada ohio >> >Dean and others >> >Please read slowly; Dana's point has nothing to do with the >> opinions >> expressed by Dean or anyone else. He is stating that these >> discussions are >> non-KR topics, and belong on some other forum not here. Political, >> religious, and moral discussions have forums galore! Utilize them; >> keep >> this one KR! >> > >> >Colin Rainey KR2(td) >> >crainey1@cfl.rr.com >> >Sanford, Florida >> >FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________ >> >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >> > >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html >> >> > >________________________________________________________________ >The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the >web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to >sign up today! > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 23:51:17 EDT From: WA7YXF@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Pushtube Message-ID: <51.346c0e12.2c93ee35@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Would it be okay to add another 1 inch tube over top of the 3/4" and secure it at both ends with the same AN3 bolts, effectively doubling the span? Colin Rainey KR2(td) It might work but, it would double the weight (and aft at that) and in a KR that's not good a good thing. You could cut the 3/4" tube away leaving a short stub on each end with the 1" tube over the stub. I might add, that the larger the tube, the less susceptible it is to bending. Even while vibrating slightly a tube is bending and if a heavy gust load should hit at the wrong moment it could buckle. Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:41:12 -0400 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Pushtube Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7 Colin, I agree with Lynn in that adding any undue weigth aft in a KR is not a good thing. Looking back at second post, you mention the pushtubes are secured to the bellcrank using AN3 bolts. In a effort to understand your install, how is this being accomplished; are you drilling through the tube and inserting the bolt or are you using rod end bearings on the ends of the pushtubes? I'll be back on the road very shortly, it's a football thing, and be gone all day and probably spending the night at Steve Eberhart's house. For those you who don't know Steve, he is the one who worked closely in the design of the new airfoil and built up the most beautiful scale wing for the wind tunnel testing you would ever see. You will also want to keep this thread open for dialogue with the multitude of builders who are offline right now attending the gathering. I can say one thing, if you decide to go another route, the thin walled, larger diameter tubes with alum. rod end bearing inserts are very light. I can provide a parts list for you to look at to assist you in any manner possible. Course it could just muddy the water up even more:-) Man, I wish I was at the gathering!!!!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 07:22:08 -0400 From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Pushtubes Message-ID: <001801c379e9$44db9d10$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 8 Lynn and Dana, And anyone else that posts; first thank you for all the help thus far. I = truly believe that you all have saved me from a catastrophic failure of = the elevator control. I do not want to sound stubborn, but there are a = couple of reasons I have not abandoned the present tube. 1. I am trying not to open up the hole any larger in the wood bulkhead = that joins to the horizontal stabilizer spar. I don not know how much = of this wood is critical, hence the small diameter tubing choice. 2. Not as good a reason but, the only ends I could locate to fit = directly into a tube, fit the 5/8" tubing. They are kind of a fork end = that slips into the end of the tube, and then you can rivet, or drill = and bolt, which I did. The cross bolt through them is also AN3, and the = bolts are 90 degrees to one another just in case being inline could = cause a problem?! 3. These little fork fittings kept the pushtube operating in a straight = line with no side loading like a side mounted bearing looked to cause. = If I centered the bearing, it would require much more machining then I = have the skill and equipment to fabricate. Also hooking anything big at = all up to the elevator horn in the tail is a @#$%&^ ! No Room! Definitely need some experienced thoughts... Thanks. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sat Sep 13 04:43:29 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.1.41]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19y8oK-0004Ye-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:43:29 -0700 Received: from Beverly (5.70.33.65.cfl.rr.com [65.33.70.5]) by ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id h8DBjjOD009593 for ; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 07:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001001c379ec$45ef4fa0$05462141@Beverly> From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 07:43:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Materials list X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Dana, If you could furnish me with a materials list so that I could duplicate = your tube, at least I would know I am using a proven design. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From klw1953@juno.com Sat Sep 13 05:26:45 2003 Received: from m03.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.66]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 19y9UD-0004k2-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:26:45 -0700 Received: from cookie.untd.com by cookie.untd.com for <"EQtoFgNDcyLHgKPX22S71mmR8BxUy86DlDUZxFnrcgkVwJHai6JyHg==">; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:28:25 PDT Received: (from klw1953@juno.com) by m03.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id H9X5T6SK; Sat, 13 Sep 2003 05:28:25 PDT To: krnet@mylist.net Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 08:27:37 -0400 Subject: Re: KR>kr2 prop needed 2100d revmaster Message-ID: <20030913.082737.2344.0.klw1953@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-95 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I gotta tell U, when I had my signoff done I could have had a lawn mower blade on the front of 6399U and I don't think it really would have mattered. All inspectors operate differently I guess.---------------------GOOD LUCK On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 23:46:59 -0700 kevin writes: > hi ken ,, thanks for the info , I do have a 47 pitch , but > unfortunatly the > logs dont reflect the change , and it is,nt the pitch the aircraft > was > issued its vertificate with , so to avoid the faa wait time to come > out and > the 5 hrs flying required , signoffs and new perf limitaions , i > want to > put the 42 back on just to get the condition inspection done ,,, > thanks > Kevin , ada airport ada ohioAt 09:56 PM 9/12/03 -0400, you wrote: > >Kevin-------I too have a 2100 revmaster but I use a 54X50 culver > prop, > >the reason for this posting is that a 42" pitch may be a little low > for a > >good cruise prop. I have no problem maintaining 3200 rpm in cruise > flight > >and 3400 full throttle. My climb is decent as well. > > > > > > > >On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:15:38 -0700 kevin writes: > >> Hello , > >> > >> I purchased a flying kr2 approx 1 year ago . However i found out > > >> the prop > >> on the plane is not the one listed in the log book or the prop > the > >> plane > >> was registered and originally issued its airworthness > certificarte > >> with , > >> so to aviod another faa inspection and all the wait since the > flight > >> > >> characteristics are changed . I am looking for a prop 52 > diameter > >> 42 > >> pitch , to put back on the plane , even a used one to get > through > >> inspection with ect,would work . So if anyone has a used or new > prop > >> they > >> want to part with for a 2100d revmaster please let me know . > >> mierz@wcoil.com . Thanks Kevin ,, ada airport ada ohio > >> >Dean and others > >> >Please read slowly; Dana's point has nothing to do with the > >> opinions > >> expressed by Dean or anyone else. He is stating that these > >> discussions are > >> non-KR topics, and belong on some other forum not here. > Political, > >> religious, and moral discussions have forums galore! Utilize > them; > >> keep > >> this one KR! > >> > > >> >Colin Rainey KR2(td) > >> >crainey1@cfl.rr.com > >> >Sanford, Florida > >> >FLY SAFE!!!!_______________________________________________ > >> >see KRnet list details at > http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > >> > >> > > > >________________________________________________________________ > >The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf > >the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit > >www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > >_______________________________________________ > >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 09:29:52 -0500 From: "Max Hardberger" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>AUTOPILOT Message-ID: <003801c37a03$7f0488c0$0100a8c0@toshibauser> References: <7f.3c5cd875.2c933b35@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 Does anyone have experience in fitting an autopilot--even just a wing-leveler--to the KR2? Max Hardberger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 13:55:17 -0400 From: "bill kirkland" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Re Fly in Message-ID: <006f01c37a20$315804e0$02488a3f@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: <001801c379e9$44db9d10$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Fly In. Well I tried. Five hrs. flying got me to Galesburg Illinois but FSS and the radar plot advised of a slow moving cold front with thunderstorms embedded, from Canada down to Kansas . Wouldn't be able to get to Red Oak till Sun. and once they passed me I would be 3 or 4 more days before I could return eastward. RedOak forecast called for rain and thundershowers. I've done my share of scud running but Cbs. scare the hell out of me. Took the briefers advice and turned around and flew home while I still could. Ten hrs. on my 150. Now what do I do with 1/2 gal of maple syrup (Mark's) and a bottle of Ice Wine? May be my last attempt. :( W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkland@rogers.com see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 14:08:23 -0400 From: "Colin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>taildragger Message-ID: <001c01c37a22$06008540$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 I agree with Harold Woods on all counts for learning a tail dragger = except: 1) when taxiing with a quartering tail wind you "dive and turn away" = from the wind to keep the tail from being lifted up by the wind from = behind and inadvertent roll. 2) when taxiing with a direct tailwind, simply apply FORWARD stick to = prevent lift of the tail, ailerons neutral. 3) straight headwind, stick back to prevent tail lift. 4) quartering headwind, stick into wind and back to prevent roll to the = opposite side and tail lift. Although much less pronounced in low wings, cross wind correction during = taxi is very important for proper control. A tail dragger must really be = "flown" on the ground with changing crosswind correction as the = airplane's orientation into the wind changes during taxi. Also try to = always perform your runnup into the wind, since some of our combinations = do not afford for excess cooling, and to prevent accidental prop strike = with inadvertent tail lift due to wind and prop wash combined. Colin Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 157, Issue 1 *************************************