From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 179, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Partnerships (Aggie lewanda) 2. T-88 going bad? (Tim Brown) 3. Re: T-88 going bad? 4. Re: T-88 going bad? (Mark Langford) 5. tricycle gear (Harold Woods) 6. progress report&good news (larry flesner) 7. Re: T-88 going bad? 8. Re: tricycle gear (Phillip Matheson) 9. KR Parts (Dean Cooper) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:20:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Aggie lewanda To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Partnerships Message-ID: <20031004192054.48854.qmail@web40301.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Netters, Nice to see Dana Overall and I on the same side for once. We both agree that while Partnership agreements are relatively simple, unless the person knows what they are doing, they should retain an attorney. The few dollars spent are well worth it for the peace of mind involved in knowing it is done correctly and future problems are avoided. We also agree that the EAA or the AOPA can probably recommend an attorney with experience in aviation matters. Dana is also correct that Revenue Rulings are not binding and do NOT carry the same weight as Statutes, Regulationa and case law. However, they are the position of the IRS and usually give a person great guidance as to likely IRS administrative actions. Where a revenue ruling that is on point can be found it is certainly prudent to follow it in doing planning unless there is an extremely good reason [compelling legal authority] to do otherwise. Nice to see everyone working together again to help someone on the net with an aviation related [in this case legal] problem. I will continue to keep my mouth shut unless I have something positive to contribute. Regards, Dean Allen --- Dana Overall wrote: > >11. Partnerships are excellent for asset protection. A partner in a > >partnership > >is almost impossible to collect money from even if you win a lawsuit > >against > >one. However, the IRS has issued a Revenue Ruling that the party "winning" > >the > >lawsuit and obtaining a charging order against the partner has > >"constructive > >receipt" of the income WHETHER THEY EVER COLLECT IT OR NOT! They then owe > >federal income taxes on phantom income they never receive. The result is > >VERY few lawsuits against partners in partnerships. > > > Time to slow down a little on this one, nice post but as a note to > anyone > considering such an agreement: > > An IRS Revenue Ruling, I haven't looked this one up, holds no basis > for > legal adjunction or basis to support one's position. It is nothing more > than than an "opinion" issued by the service as a result of a request by an > entity seeking such. This allows the seeker of the ruling to legally file > an informational return without fear of fraud penalties upon future rulings > of the service. In the same breath, the IRS is not legally obligated to > stand by a revenue ruling in the case requested nor any future or past > instances. > > The proof of uncollectability is basis for the writing off of > uncollectable > accounts receivable. This proof can be based on liquidity, continued > existance or a variety of positions. Numerous examples of case law > substantiate this position and would hold precedence. Since individuals are > considered by the IRS to be "cash basis" entities then the mere existance of > a favorable judgement is not receipt of income and will not be considered as > income for tax purposes. This would certainly not be an issue with my > counsel to a client interested in relief. > > Once again, seek legal counsel in your state of residence. > Partnership > agreements or exculpability agreements are relatively cheap to have drawn up > and, in my opinion well worth the counsel to have an agreement drafted to > meat one's individual needs. The above information is not legal counsel and > cannot be used as such as dictated by the Kentucky Bar Association or The > Kentucky State Board of Accountancy. I am only licensed to practice within > the Commonwealth of Kentucky. > > > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host > Richmond, KY > RV-7 slider/fuselage, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit ordered!! Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. > http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get Hotmail > Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 12:31:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Brown To: KR Net Subject: KR>T-88 going bad? Message-ID: <20031004193130.4822.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 I checked the archives for any info on T-88 going bad and came up blank so.... I think my T-88 epoxy portion might have gone bad. Can it? It is thicker than it use to be and, for lack of a better description, appears somewhat crystallized. Would heating it help? It's not real old (a year or so) and has been kept indoors the whole time so it hasn't froze. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Tim __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 15:35:44 EDT From: AviationMech@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>T-88 going bad? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 In a message dated 10/4/2003 3:31:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, timwbrown@yahoo.com writes: > Any thoughts I have heard discussion both ways. The archives may have something and you can also ask the Manufacturer, they probably have a contact number or web site. Orma AKA AviationMech KR2 N110LR 1984 to Present www.members.aol.com/aviationmech also see me at www.aviation-mechanics.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:52:21 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>T-88 going bad? Message-ID: <186401c38ab1$064b79c0$1202a8c0@basement> References: <20031004193130.4822.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Tim Brown wrote: > I think my T-88 epoxy portion might have gone > bad. Can it? It is thicker than it use to be > and, for lack of a better description, appears > somewhat crystallized. Would heating it help? Yep, crystallized it is. Just put it in the sink with some hot water for a while, and when you come back it'll be "good" again. That's not uncommon, and the manufacturer even says that's OK to do. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 16:10:40 -0400 From: "Harold Woods" To: Subject: KR>tricycle gear Message-ID: <010901c38ab3$95434a20$08ee6418@HAROLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 Hi every one.=20 I send this out to all that can offer assistance. I have a friend that is building a KR2, he has progressed to the stage = where he must do something about undercarriage. He wants to use a = trigear. He can either buy it or make it. Who can he contact for information and prices on purchasing it? If he is going to make it, where can he find details about the gear? You can reply off net to myself at: haroldwoods@rogers.com or=20 bravopilot@hotmail.com Thanks fellows. Harold Woods. Orillia,Ontario. Canada, --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/2003From emiglesias@cpenet.com.ar Sat Oct 04 16:10:59 2003 Received: from srvsr5.cpenet.com.ar ([200.51.28.248]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1A5vYA-0004cV-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 16:10:59 -0700 Received: from portatil [200.63.188.7] by srvsr5.cpenet.com.ar (SMTPD32-7.04) id A3F4270C0150; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:12:52 -0300 Message-ID: <009301c38b32$05ec3e20$d862fea9@portatil> From: "Eduardo M. Iglesias" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: Subject: Re: KR>handhelds Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 08:09:10 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-RBL-Warning: DSN: Not supporting null originator (DSN) X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Hi Oscar It interests me if your you have some place where I can buy that ICOM , since you can mount it in the front of the board. Thaks Eduardo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" To: Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: KR>handhelds > Howdy, Netters; > > The question about the Sporty's handheld may have already been > answered, in > which case I apologize- but for those studying the market, here's an > excellent and detailed comparison site: > http://www.avshop.com/transceiverroundup.html > > The Sporty's unit did not fare well. And while I'm an AOPA member and > really like Sporty's service (and buy from them regularly), there's no sense > in buying a product when there is something better available for the > same money. > > And FWIW- my own handheld is the rock-bottom cheapest there is... the > Icom unit with no numeric keypad (it's tuned using the arrow keys). > It's slow; it's clumsy; but for local fun flying- it works and it's > cheap. My own handheld GPS is an old Magellan GPS 2000... it's simple > and cheap and it is > light-years ahead of what a VOR and ADF, even DME, could do in the > best of IFR panels not that many years ago! > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > _________________________________________________________________ > Frustrated with dial-up? Get high-speed for as low as $29.95/month > (depending on the local service providers in your area). > https://broadband.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:27:22 -0500 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>progress report&good news Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031004232722.007d1300@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <179b01c38955$8cdcc550$1202a8c0@basement> References: <001001c387db$9c3962e0$04fcd241@clapp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6 First the good news. I found out today that I will become GRANDPA for the first time next May! Awsome! Progress report: I weighed the KR today. It is a 24 inch stretch with an 0-200, 600X6 main gear, 6 inch tailwheel, wing tanks only, Cessna flap motor on the speed brake and basiclly just a HEAVY bird. We used some very accurate electronic scales. I'm using the same C.G. range as the standard KR and will approach the rear C.G. with caution during testing. Here is the long and short of it: My C.G. range is __________________53.5 to 61.5 inches Total empty weight including oil, intercom and headset________ ____764 lbs.@53.4 inches Pilot (me) at 204 lbs._____________968 lbs.@57.9 inches Fuel (25 gal@6.2 p/g=155lbs._____ 1123 lbs.@58.8 inches Pass @200 lbs._________________1323 lbs.@61.2 inches I'll have to keep an eye on my baggage/passanger weight. My C.G. will move forward 1 inch from full fuel to empty fuel. As a frame of reference, Marty Robert's KR has an empty weight of 780 pounds as of the last Gathering. Jeff Scott has a KR basiclly identical to mine but he used the Continental mount from RR ( I think) and his C.G. came out an inch or two better than mine. I'm using a Hapi VW mount with a 1 inch spacer. I believe the 2s moves the wing back 2 inches or stated another way, moved the firewall forward 2 inches. If my fuselage were built to 2s dimensions I'd be right on the money. I need to get my "N" number applied and get it inspected. I've had it on the runway for some taxi test. I've had the speed up to maybe 35 mph but have yet to lift the tail. I'll keep you posted. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 02:42:45 EDT From: Kr2sN506KR@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>T-88 going bad? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 T-88 going bad? Here is a link to some info on T-88. I used to have it on my site but I ran out of room so I took it off. http://www.systemthree.com/pdf/new/t88_tds.pdf After my T-88 starts getting thick and not looking so good I save it and use it to epoxy my R/C aircraft. I crashed a twin engine R/C strait in at full throtle. The only parts that were undamaged, were the ones I used the old T-88 on. The rest of it was tooth picks. Chris Theroux Gilbert, Az ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 16:56:08 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>tricycle gear Message-ID: <003301c38b0d$c18c29d0$f296dccb@StationW2k04> References: <010901c38ab3$95434a20$08ee6418@HAROLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Harold . Dan Diehl page listed below http://www.diehlaero.com/ Bottom of page and open the landing gear section Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.ao Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harold Woods" To: Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 6:10 AM Subject: KR>tricycle gear Hi every one. I send this out to all that can offer assistance. I have a friend that is building a KR2, he has progressed to the stage where he must do something about undercarriage. He wants to use a trigear. He can either buy it or make it. Who can he contact for information and prices on purchasing it? If he is going to make it, where can he find details about the gear? You can reply off net to myself at: haroldwoods@rogers.com or bravopilot@hotmail.com Thanks fellows. Harold Woods. Orillia,Ontario. Canada, --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/2003_______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:53:24 -0400 From: "Dean Cooper" To: Subject: KR>KR Parts Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 9 Netters, If anyone has any KR2 parts they are looking to sell (ie, canopy, = turtledeck, controls, wing skins, gear, fuel tank, etc.), please email = me off-net at dean_cooper@msn.com. Thanks. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FLFrom clappscar@cybersouth.com Sun Oct 05 09:46:56 2003 Received: from [207.53.87.62] (helo=cybersouth.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1A6C23-0007ss-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 09:46:55 -0700 Received: from clapp [65.210.252.4] by cybersouth.com (SMTPD32-7.15) id AADB12F300F8; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 12:46:19 -0400 Message-ID: <001701c38b60$f940ca40$04fcd241@clapp> From: "William Clapp" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: Subject: Re: KR>KR Parts Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:51:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I saw a KR for sale on ebay with parts - he has a phone number you can call. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Cooper To: Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 9:53 AM Subject: KR>KR Parts Netters, If anyone has any KR2 parts they are looking to sell (ie, canopy, turtledeck, controls, wing skins, gear, fuel tank, etc.), please email me off-net at dean_cooper@msn.com. Thanks. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL_______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 179, Issue 1 *************************************