From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 2:35 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 210, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Aircraft lumber 2. Re: Aircraft lumber (David Mikesell) 3. Re: Aircraft lumber (larry severson) 4. RE: Aircraft lumber 5. Re: Painting tips (bill kirkland) 6. RE: Aircraft lumber (Brian Kraut) 7. RT-359A transponder (Brian Kraut) 8. Re: Aircraft lumber (Mark Jones) 9. RE: Aircraft lumber (Rick Wilson) 10. New gauge resource (Ron Eason) 11. RE: KR2S Plans - wood airplanes..... (KRJerry) 12. Re: And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It hasa relative short shelf life. (bill kirkland) 13. first flight in a kr-2s 14. Re: Aircraft lumber (roger mitchell) 15. Re: EA-AC43.13 (roger mitchell) 16. Re: first flight in a kr-2s (Gavin Donohoe) 17. VW Exhaust system (collin cleland) 18. Re: first flight in a kr-2s (F Ross) 19. Re: Re: EA-AC43.13 (Justin) 20. brake set ups!!!!!!! (Ross Evans) 21. brake set ups!!!!!!!! (Ross Evans) 22. Re: Antennas (Timothy Bellville) 23. Re: first flight in a kr-2s ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:06:15 -0500 From: GGrabowski@LWTM.COM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Aircraft lumber Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Given the obvious safety implications of using the correct lumber for building an aircraft, I certainly understand the wisdom of using aircraft grade material. After reviewing several catalogs and magazines, it seems that spruce is the timber of choice. Unfortunately, spruce it not locally available in many areas, and shipping increases the cost considerably, particularly if it is not normally stocked. I am wondering if there are other timber choices that might be locally available, but without a significant decrease in safety over spruce such as poplar or white oak. I would appreciate any expertise anyone has on this subject. Thanks. Greg S. Grabowski ggrabowski@lwtm.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 13:53:05 -0800 From: "David Mikesell" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Aircraft lumber Message-ID: <001001c3a31e$07d8c920$03fea8c0@davids> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Actually there is alot of choices....The one I just did was to use douglas fir instead of spruce, it is stronger but will split easier so care must be taken when farbricating with it. I just purchased 1000ft of 1x2 clear veritical grain Douglas fir, and the grain deviation exceeds the requirement for aircraft construction, for $465.....shipped to me in California from Washington State for $130 (their shipper gives them a discount) check out this link on my site for the company's info and pictures of the wood I received http://www.skyguynca.com/eden.html David Mikesell Acampo, CA skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:06 PM Subject: KR>Aircraft lumber > Given the obvious safety implications of using the correct lumber for > building an aircraft, I certainly understand the wisdom of using > aircraft grade material. After reviewing several catalogs and > magazines, it seems that spruce is the timber of choice. > Unfortunately, spruce it not locally available in many areas, and > shipping increases the cost considerably, particularly if it is not > normally stocked. I am wondering if there are other timber choices > that might be locally available, but without a significant decrease in > safety over spruce such as poplar or white oak. I would appreciate > any expertise anyone has on this subject. > > Thanks. > > Greg S. Grabowski > ggrabowski@lwtm.com > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:01:20 -0800 From: larry severson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Aircraft lumber Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20031104135930.02897768@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 Greg S. Grabowski >ggrabowski@lwtm.com If you would add your city/state to your return, you might find people in your area making suggestions that fit your needs exactly. They might even offer to help. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:02:39 -0500 From: GGrabowski@LWTM.COM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR>Aircraft lumber Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4 Greenville, SC -----Original Message----- From: larry severson [mailto:larry2@socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:01 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Aircraft lumber Greg S. Grabowski >ggrabowski@lwtm.com If you would add your city/state to your return, you might find people in your area making suggestions that fit your needs exactly. They might even offer to help. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:39:20 -0500 From: "bill kirkland" To: "Ron Eason" , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Painting tips Message-ID: <003501c3a324$7e235220$02488a3f@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: <002501c3978f$813bc000$09fcd241@clapp><3F9506F6.000055.02224@Computer><000d01c39805$1a746540$0100000a@z4o4j2><009d01c39f3c$cd6e06e0$ec3aa7c8@OSWALDO> <00ae01c39f49$3d1aa050$6401a8c0@Administration> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Yes: but if you thin it too much you will have to "repaint and thin no more" sorry I couldn't resist W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkland@rogers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Eason" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: Re: KR>Painting tips > Thin the paint with solvent. > > Krron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Oswaldo P. Silva Filho" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: KR>Painting tips > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "molan" > > To: "KR builders and pilots" > > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:56 PM > > Subject: Re: KR>Painting tips > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > Bill, > > > > > > What is the best way to avoid "orange peel"? > > > > > > N64KR > > > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR > > > > > > May be to use a thinner mixture in the spray gun... > > > > > > Paulo S. Molan > > > KR 2S PT ZPM > > > Brazil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:00:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Brian Kraut To: KR builders and pilots Subject: RE: KR>Aircraft lumber Message-ID: <16837497.1067986810006.JavaMail.root@skeeter.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 I would suggest just ordering the spruce kit from Aircraft Spruce. www.aircraftspruce.com. They can ship it from their Georgia warehouse for a whole lot less money and aggrevation than trying to find a substitute. -----Original Message----- From: GGrabowski@LWTM.COM Sent: Nov 4, 2003 5:02 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR>Aircraft lumber Greenville, SC -----Original Message----- From: larry severson [mailto:larry2@socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:01 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Aircraft lumber Greg S. Grabowski >ggrabowski@lwtm.com If you would add your city/state to your return, you might find people in your area making suggestions that fit your needs exactly. They might even offer to help. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:05:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Brian Kraut To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>RT-359A transponder Message-ID: <21842873.1067987140471.JavaMail.root@skeeter.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 Someone gave me an RT-359A transponder that works, but it has a broken front face and one of the knobs is broken. I also need the tray and connector for it. Anyone out there have a dead one to sell for parts? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:17:23 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Aircraft lumber Message-ID: <004601c3a329$ce494200$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Unfortunately, spruce it not locally > available in many areas, and shipping increases the cost considerably, > particularly if it is not normally stocked. I> Greg S. Grabowski Two things: Wicks shipped me all my spruce and plywood at one time via truckline. $40.00 to Wisconsin. You are not much farther away from Wick's than I am. I find it hard to believe $40 is too much for shipping. (Of course that was in 1998). Also, I built everything on my plane from the plans. I ordered no premade parts from Rand. This is a build and pay as you go plane. that is what makes it so nice to build unless you can afford to buy one of those kit planes. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:06 PM Subject: KR>Aircraft lumber .> ggrabowski@lwtm.com > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:07:32 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Wilson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: RE: KR>Aircraft lumber Message-ID: <20031105000732.12878.qmail@web21201.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 9 Greg, When you buy the wood kit from aircraft spruce or wicks all the lumber is already planed to the peoper dimensions, as well as inspected for the correct grade. This eliminates any guesswork and insures that you are using wood that you will be satisfied with in the end. I doubt whether you will be thinking of a few dollars you saved on lumber when you are cruising at 5,000 ft. (that is if you save any money,) the wood kit for the kr's is not that expensive. Just my thoughts, Rick Wilson. --- GGrabowski@LWTM.COM wrote: > Greenville, SC > > -----Original Message----- > From: larry severson [mailto:larry2@socal.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:01 PM > To: KR builders and pilots > Subject: Re: KR>Aircraft lumber > > > > > Greg S. Grabowski > >ggrabowski@lwtm.com > > If you would add your city/state to your return, you > might find people in > your area making suggestions that fit your needs > exactly. They might even > offer to help. > > > Larry Severson > Fountain Valley, CA 92708 > (714) 968-9852 > larry2@socal.rr.com > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ===== Rick Wilson, Haleyville, Alabama KR2-0200A -99% rwdw2002@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 19:35:49 -0600 From: "Ron Eason" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>New gauge resource Message-ID: <007801c3a33d$251806d0$6501a8c0@Administration> References: <002501c3978f$813bc000$09fcd241@clapp><3F9506F6.000055.02224@Computer><000d01c39805$1a746540$0100000a@z4o4j2><009d01c39f3c$cd6e06e0$ec3aa7c8@OSWALDO> <00ae01c39f49$3d1aa050$6401a8c0@Administration> <003501c3a324$7e235220$02488a3f@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 http://www.curtisinst.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=cProducts.dspEngageOverview# Curtis Instruments has introduced a new line of gauges. These are industrial quality USA mfrg. Conpetivly priced. All are light weight digital types. I just recieve a 12 volt battery monitor gauge. Krron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:41:04 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "KRJerry" To: Subject: RE: KR>KR2S Plans - wood airplanes..... Message-ID: <3FA85530.000001.02304@oldmerlin> References: Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 =2E........Gavin,=0D =0D You might take a look at Falconer (Canada) airplanes......... =0D =0D KRJerry=0D Jerry Mahurin=0D Lugoff, SC=0D e-mail: KRJerry@bellsouth.net=0D Website: http://KR-Builder.org =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:06:10=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: RE: KR>KR2S Plans=0D =0D Frank,=0D =0D Thank-you for your response. I must admit, I'm a little skeptical as I've= =0D had several negative responses. I really want to build a wooden aircraft,= =0D and I think I've narrowed my choices to the KR2S or a GP-4 (there don't s= eem=0D to be many choices available). I really don't want to buy the kits, and=0D would like to fabricate my own from the plans. Are the KR2S plans=0D sufficiently detailed to allow this, or are they simply assembly plans th= at=0D require you to purchase the parts prefabricated? Thank-you again for your= =0D insight.=0D =0D Greg=0D =0D =0D =0D -----Original Message-----=0D From: F Ross [mailto:alamokr2@yahoo.com]=0D Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:37 AM=0D To: KR builders and pilots=0D Subject: Re: KR>KR2S Plans=0D =0D =0D --- GGrabowski@LWTM.COM wrote:=0D > I'm considering purchasing a plan set for the KR2S.=0D =0D > is subjective, I think positive or negative feedback=0D > from those that have=0D > already built (or are building) from these plan sets=0D > would be a good=0D > indication. Any comments would be most appreciated.=0D =0D Greg,=0D The KR-2 and 2S plans are very good. That is not the=0D case for the KR-1 plans. Long ago I bought a set of=0D KR-1 plans because they were cheap and I thought I'd=0D get an idea of how difficult building it would be.=0D Trust me, there is no comparison. I think you'll find=0D the KR-2 plans excellent, but I cannot say the same=0D for the KR-1 plans.=0D =0D =0D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0D Frank Ross,=0D EAA Chapter 35,=0D San Geronimo, TX=0D RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK=0D alamokr2@yahoo.com=0D =0D __________________________________=0D Do you Yahoo!?=0D Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard=0D http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree=0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2EFrom krjerry@bellsouth.net Tue Nov 04 17:41:57 2003 Received: from imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.72]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AHCgH-000N6n-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:41:57 -0800 Received: from oldmerlin ([67.35.148.158]) by imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with SMTP id <20031105014643.DYAR1811.imf24aec.mail.bellsouth.net@oldmerlin> for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:46:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FA85688.000003.02304@oldmerlin> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:46:48 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001138.2001138) From: "KRJerry" References: X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: RE: KR>Aircraft lumber = in SC..... Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: .........Larry,=0D =0D We are in SC.......... Go look at our website listed below. I live in Lugoff and Dan lives in Lexington....=0D =0D KRJerry=0D Jerry Mahurin=0D Lugoff, SC=0D e-mail: KRJerry@bellsouth.net=0D Website: http://KR-Builder.org =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KR builders and pilots=0D Date: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 17:03:30=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: RE: KR>Aircraft lumber=0D =0D Greenville, SC=0D =0D -----Original Message-----=0D From: larry severson [mailto:larry2@socal.rr.com]=0D Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 5:01 PM=0D To: KR builders and pilots=0D Subject: Re: KR>Aircraft lumber=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D Greg S. Grabowski=0D >ggrabowski@lwtm.com=0D =0D If you would add your city/state to your return, you might find people in= =0D your area making suggestions that fit your needs exactly. They might even= =0D offer to help.=0D =0D =0D Larry Severson=0D Fountain Valley, CA 92708=0D (714) 968-9852=0D larry2@socal.rr.com=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html=0D =2EFrom rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com Tue Nov 04 17:51:27 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-03-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.5.133] helo=ms-smtp-03-eri0.tampabay.rr.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1AHCpT-000NFn-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 04 Nov 2003 17:51:27 -0800 Received: from zippersystems (6534125hfc201.swfla.rr.com [65.34.125.201] (may be forged)) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hA51uDqG024063 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:56:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>Aircraft lumber Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:56:14 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com, KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: There's a big difference between Spruce lumber and Aircraft grade spruce...This difference is the Aircraft materials a re carefully controlled, starting with the way the tree is felled. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of GGrabowski@LWTM.COM Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 4:06 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Aircraft lumber Given the obvious safety implications of using the correct lumber for building an aircraft, I certainly understand the wisdom of using aircraft grade material. After reviewing several catalogs and magazines, it seems that spruce is the timber of choice. Unfortunately, spruce it not locally available in many areas, and shipping increases the cost considerably, particularly if it is not normally stocked. I am wondering if there are other timber choices that might be locally available, but without a significant decrease in safety over spruce such as poplar or white oak. I would appreciate any expertise anyone has on this subject. Thanks. Greg S. Grabowski ggrabowski@lwtm.com _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:57:34 -0500 From: "bill kirkland" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It hasa relative short shelf life. Message-ID: <021d01c3a348$91237a20$02488a3f@lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 When bbuying vinyl ester also get the styrene suppressant "BYK S-750" It reduces the styrene odour 70 -90%. Add between o.3 and 1%. You will have much better relations with your wife and your neighbours. W.G.(Bill) KIRKLAND wkirkland@rogers.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wood, Sidney M." To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: RE: KR>And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It hasa relative short shelf life. > Vinyl-ester in the promated state as you would buy it from Wicks or > A/C Spruce has an advertised shelf life of three months. I have stretched that to six months by keeping it in a refrigerator; your results may vary. Vinyl-ester resin puts out lots of styrene fumes when you add the catalyst - good way to turn your workshop/garage/house into a gas chamber. MEKP is the catalyst commonly used. This stuff looks like clear water, but will work like concentrated sulfuric acid if you get it in your eyes. The literature says "blindness in 4 seconds". (Who that was tested on is not stated.) > A fresh air breathing system is definitely recommended, along with eye > and skin protection. > On the plus side: it's about half the price of epoxy, works the same, > has about the same cured strength, but has been formulated to be gasoline proof for auto gas, 100 LL, gasohol, etc. > Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Heath [mailto:DanRH@AllTel.net] > Sent: Thu 10/30/2003 3:35 PM > To: krnet@mylist.net > Cc: > Subject: KR>And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It > has a relative short shelf life. > > > > RE > > And buy vinyl-ester only when you are ready to use it. It has a > relative > > short shelf life. > > > > > > And only if you have to use it. It is not for normal consumption. Research > it well first. > > > > N64KR > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 22:35:45 EST From: Dgil987@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>first flight in a kr-2s Message-ID: <5b.411a31a6.2cd9ca11@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 Hi guys, I just wanted to let you know today I got a chance to go for a flight with Ken Thomas in his KR-2S. It has a jabiru 3300 engine in it putting out 120 hp, so even with the two of us and full fuel we got off the ground rather quickly. I had talked to Ken last Friday since I am thinking about buying a KR-2 and wanted to see what one looked like and what size the cockpit is. He had told me how sensitive the elevator is, so I used his method of resting your wrist on your thigh and only using a finger and thumb to control the stick. I didn't have any trouble controlling the plane, Ken said I did a good job flying, and we did a few touch and goes. All I can say after flying one is wow! If all kr's fly that well I can see why there are so many builders and pilots. Lastly, if all in the KR community are even half as friendly as Ken I know I'm joining a terrific group. Sincerely, David Gilley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:48:55 -0600 From: "roger mitchell" To: , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Aircraft lumber Message-ID: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 14 according to faa ,info found in EA-AC43.13, aircraft woods should have = grain structure straightness of no more than 1" in 15", there are other woods which could be used but spruce has the = most consistant grain structure, and workability. others include: = douglas fur,noble fur,western hemlock,worthern white pine,white = cedar,and yellow poplar. pick up a copy of EA-AC43.13 it's the standard that A&P mechanics use = when not superceded by any other procedures =20 -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On = Behalf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:08:27 -0600 From: "roger mitchell" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Re: EA-AC43.13 Message-ID: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 15 FYI if you go to the FAA web site, type in search , "acceptical = methods,techniques,and practices", you can download the A&P's bible of aircraft inspection and repair, these are min. req. = but considered safe(over 400 pages)=20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:32:41 +1000 From: Gavin Donohoe To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>first flight in a kr-2s Message-ID: <005901c3a36f$0a2fada0$e94d8690@oemcomputer> References: <5b.411a31a6.2cd9ca11@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 16 Can you let us all know the performance figures with the Jab 3300 engine ??? Gav ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:35 PM Subject: KR>first flight in a kr-2s > Hi guys, I just wanted to let you know today I got a chance to go for > a flight with Ken Thomas in his KR-2S. It has a jabiru 3300 engine in > it putting out > 120 hp, so even with the two of us and full fuel we got off the ground rather > quickly. I had talked to Ken last Friday since I am thinking about > buying a > KR-2 and wanted to see what one looked like and what size the cockpit > is. He had > told me how sensitive the elevator is, so I used his method of resting your > wrist on your thigh and only using a finger and thumb to control the stick. I > didn't have any trouble controlling the plane, Ken said I did a good > job flying, and we did a few touch and goes. All I can say after > flying one is wow! If > all kr's fly that well I can see why there are so many builders and pilots. > Lastly, if all in the KR community are even half as friendly as Ken I > know I'm > joining a terrific group. > > > Sincerely, > David Gilley > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.535 / Virus Database: 330 - Release Date: 01/11/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:23:16 -0700 From: "collin cleland" To: "KR Escribe MAIL TO LIST" Subject: KR>VW Exhaust system Message-ID: <004301c3a376$10b56e60$5cce94d1@collincle> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 17 I appreciate all the replies regarding the retract landing gear bar. = Thanks to George Vandor I now have one. I'm also looking for a 1600/1834 four into one ( or two - two into ones = ) exhaust system so I can add carb and cabin heat. I have plans to = fabricate one, but if anyone has changed engines and already has one = lying around .... please contact me off the net. Thanks again Collin=20 collincleland@sprint.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:57:52 -0800 (PST) From: F Ross To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>first flight in a kr-2s Message-ID: <20031105085752.87587.qmail@web40903.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <5b.411a31a6.2cd9ca11@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 18 --- Dgil987@aol.com wrote: > Hi guys, I just wanted to let you know today I got a > chance to go for a > flight with Ken Thomas in his KR-2S. It has a jabiru > Sincerely, > David Gilley It doesn't hurt to mention that Ken is about 6'5" tall, weight consistent with height and STANDS on the wing stub when he gets in/out of the plane. He not only built a hell of a plane, but he is a testament to what the KR can do and how big a man can fit into it. ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK alamokr2@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:26:18 -0600 From: "Justin" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Re: EA-AC43.13 Message-ID: <003801c3a36e$1a79dd30$47da1818@computer> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 19 http://av-info.faa.gov/dst/43-13/ Thats the link which allows you to look at them, and download them if you would like. Justin N116JW www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/Home ----- Original Message ----- From: "roger mitchell" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:08 AM Subject: KR>Re: EA-AC43.13 FYI if you go to the FAA web site, type in search , "acceptical methods,techniques,and practices", you can download the A&P's bible of aircraft inspection and repair, these are min. req. but considered safe(over 400 pages) _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:35:15 +1000 From: "Ross Evans" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>brake set ups!!!!!!! Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 20 Hi Guys My kr2S has cleveland brakes and the pedals are mounted below the header tank and hang from a shelf down. The problem is connecting the hydraulic cyclinders to a toe brake set up as the length of the rudder pedal arm is shorter than the hydraulic ram what can be done to solve this problem and the associated geometry problems what has been done and how photo's are great. Cheers Ross flykr2@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 19:48:24 +1000 From: "Ross Evans" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>brake set ups!!!!!!!! Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 21 Hi guys I have celveland brakes for my kr2S. I have rudder pedals that hang down from a shelf and are not floor mounted as per most kr's. The problem is the rudder arms are longer than the hydraulic cyclinders what can be done so toe brakes can be set up. Photo's are great cheers Ross flykr2@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 05:13:37 -0500 From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Antennas Message-ID: <003101c3a385$7b29ca20$105f570c@donnas> References: <004901c3a208$54dfd860$0400a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 22 Thanks Jim, I believe you are correct in all of your assumptions. and have confirmed with "Poly fiber" that it will indeed interfere with radio transmissions. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "JIM VANCE" To: "krnet" Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:38 AM Subject: KR>Antennas Tim, I have two points. First, the ELT will transmit on 121.5 Mhz, right in the middle of your comm frequencies. When the antennas are in close proximity, it will send an extremely high level of power into the receiver. That might fry it. The solution is to keep the ELT and comm antennas as far apart as is possible. Secondly, 90% of the signal is transmitted in the part of the antenna nearest the feedpoint. The top half of the antenna is there to make it resonant, but radiates only about 10% of the signal. If you in effect have the majority of the antenna shielded, then your signal will bounce around the inside of the plane like inside a microwave oven. Have you thought about imbedding the antennas into the canopy? It might not be vertical polarization, but at least it would radiate outside the plane. Just a thought. Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 05:40:07 EST From: Dgil987@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>first flight in a kr-2s Message-ID: <1cf.13c4a888.2cda2d87@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 23 Ken figured with the 2 of us and full fuel the plane was grossing about 1230 lbs and we broke ground in about 1000 ft, then held it in ground effect till reaching 90 knots or so. I don't think he had a vsi in the panel, but If I had to guess I'd say we were climbing at about 1000 fpm. Upon reaching 3000 ft we leveled off, set the power to 2900 rpm and reached about 145mph indicated 155mph true. Ken says flat out the plane will do about 175mph. Fuel burn at cruise according to Ken is about 5.5 gph, these are all impressive numbers when you consider that Ken's plane is 6" wider than a standard KR. David Gilley dgil987@aol.com Can you let us all know the performance figures with the Jab 3300 engine ??? Gav ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 210, Issue 1 *************************************