From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 213, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re:Problems with Wicks 2. Strobe Lights for sale (Ron Freiberger) 3. RE: Problems with Wicks (Ron Freiberger) 4. Wicks (larry flesner) 5. Re: Wicks (Mike Turner) 6. spark plug torque (Brian Kraut) 7. OLD aviation gas (Darren Pond) 8. Re: Psru (Rick Wilson) 9. Re: spark plug torque (Art Bruce) 10. Diehl (F Ross) 11. aviation gas/heater (larry flesner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:29:50 EST From: Boeing757mech1@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re:KR>Problems with Wicks Message-ID: <16a.261bc083.2cdd68ce@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Well in all my years of working for a airline I have never and I mean NEVER had an engineer send down a repair or modification that called out the right length fasteners. The bolts are always to short and the rivets to long. I'm not saying you friend doesn't know what he is doing but there always seems to be a break down in communication. How did he determine the correct length of fastener? By a math calculation based off the drawing or did he actually put the pieces together and use a grip scale? If he performed the math calculation as an engineer would, this is almost always where the mistakes are made, it is much easier and more accurate to use the grip scale rather than doing math and then converting 3/32, 3 times the thickest sheet, add this subtract that yada, yada, yada. If it grip to a -10, then you have a 99% chance of being right the first time. Chris Theroux Gilbert, AZ > The Wick's Warehouse Supervisor was sending him > bolts > > based on Total Length, NOT Grip Length. And then > had > > told my friend that that's how they have been > doing it > > for the last 30 years. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:47:37 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRNET" Subject: KR>Strobe Lights for sale Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 See my strobe lights for sale at http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2441861047 5 percent discount to any current KRNET person. Sport Pilots don't fly at night. Happy Friday to you all. Ron Freiberger KR2Sport guy at rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com BTW, Ellison Carb has been sold.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:57:57 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>Problems with Wicks Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <16a.261bc083.2cdd68ce@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Aircraft fasteners are specified by length, and no amount of bad mouthing Wick's will change that. I have had the misfortune of having errors in my order by Wicks, and thet have ALWAYS handled the issue in a very businesslike, customer oriented manner. Freindly, courteous, cheerful.... must have been Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 19:08:09 -0600 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>Wicks Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031107190809.00849100@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <004701c3a52d$e9491ca0$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> References: <20031106173315.94025.qmail@web40801.mail.yahoo.com> <3.0.6.32.20031107062712.008473f0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4 On the other hand, if >you DO need one or two bolts, Wicks is kind enough to send you little >light stuff like that US Mail, so you only have to pay 37 or 74 cents >for postage, rather than $5 UPS for a practically empty box. Mark >Langford, Huntsville, AL ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= When I started to taxi test my project I connected my electric hour meter leads so my hour meter would start recording the time. I quickly noticed it was inop. I called Wick's one afternoon at 3:00PM and my new hour meter was in my mailbox the next morning at 10:30AM !! I only live 100 miles from Wick's but I was still impressed with both Wick's and the Postal Service. Larry - (still waiting to get my final inspection) - Flesner P.S. On one of my last taxi runs I managed to keep the tail up for 500 feet or more and the KR on the runway. I have had several one or two second "powerful pucker" periods but for the most part the 30 or so runs up and down the runway have been uneventful. I have found that I can set the throttle to 2200 rpm with the brakes set and bring the tail up and balance it on the mains for as long as I want. The KR and I are both ready to get some distance between us and the ground !! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 19:41:00 -0600 From: "Mike Turner" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Wicks Message-ID: References: <20031106173315.94025.qmail@web40801.mail.yahoo.com> <3.0.6.32.20031107062712.008473f0@pop.midwest.net> <3.0.6.32.20031107190809.00849100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 I am amazed how fast Wicks can get stuff out. I put an order in Wed = morning and got it the next day, except for an order of 5/8 x 5/8 spruce = which they called to let me know that would take a couple of days as = they were temp out. At 6:30 pm today the ups guy showed up with the = wood. I also like the fact that when you have a question about a product = they have people who know something about the products they are selling. = If they don't have an immediate answer they do their best to get the = answer from their suppliers. I am very happy with Wicks!! Way to go larry on your taxi runs and good luck on your impending = maiden flight !!!! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: larry flesner=20 To: KR builders and pilots=20 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: KR>Wicks On the other hand, if >you DO need one or two bolts, Wicks is kind enough to send you little = light >stuff like that US Mail, so you only have to pay 37 or 74 cents for = postage, >rather than $5 UPS for a practically empty box. >Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=3D When I started to taxi test my project I connected my electric hour meter leads so my hour meter would start recording the time. I quickly noticed it was inop. I called Wick's one=20 afternoon at 3:00PM and my new hour meter was in my mailbox the next morning at 10:30AM !! I only live 100 miles from Wick's but I was still impressed with both Wick's and the Postal Service. Larry - (still waiting to get my final inspection) - Flesner P.S. On one of my last taxi runs I managed to keep the tail up for 500 feet or more and the KR on the runway. I have had several one or two second "powerful pucker" periods but for the most part the 30 or so runs up and down the runway have been uneventful. I have found that I can set the throttle to 2200 rpm with the brakes set and bring the tail up and balance it on the mains for as long as I want. The KR and I are both ready to get some distance between us and the ground !! _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 23:32:42 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Brian Kraut To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>spark plug torque Message-ID: <15079938.1068265963133.JavaMail.root@daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Can anyone give me the correct spark plug torque for a VW. I need the values for both the 14mm main plugs and the little 10mm secondary ignition plugs. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:47:17 -0500 From: "Darren Pond" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>OLD aviation gas Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <15079938.1068265963133.JavaMail.root@daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 Hi all How long is Aviation fuel good for? My little bird has been sitting three months waiting for my attention. Also winter starting a Continental 65? Any advice? I'm thinking maybe make a propane preheater turn it on and head to the Cafe for a coffee. But then flying with coffee in the blatter on a cold day may not be that much fun either. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 06:54:02 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Wilson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Psru Message-ID: <20031108145402.63691.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <003201c3a522$5d2ff140$414d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8 Gavin, There is a man who advertises in the classified ads in Kitplanes magazines who sells plans to build PSRU's. I don't recall his name, but the name of his business is "Reductions". I believe he is located in Canada. I bought a set of plans from him and was well satisfied with them. He also sells complete PSRU's. Hope this helps, Rick Wilson. --- Gavin Donohoe wrote: > HI all I've been looking back through the archives > about PSRU's for Subaru engines, and in about 2001 > there was some posts about plans to construct one. I > intend to build my own and most of the parts are > available in my home town. Can anybody direct me to > anyone who has the plans available please? > > Thanks > Gavin > Australia > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.535 / Virus Database: 330 - Release > Date: 01/11/2003 _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ===== Rick Wilson, Haleyville, Alabama KR2-0200A -99% rwdw2002@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 10:24:05 -0500 From: "Art Bruce" To: "Brian Kraut" , "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>spark plug torque Message-ID: <001001c3a60c$5907af00$dea7fea9@art> References: <15079938.1068265963133.JavaMail.root@daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 Brian: FROM STEVE BENNETT'S "TYPE 1 ENGINE ASSEMBLY MANUAL". page 25/ The spark plugs are installed next. When using the Bosch W8A plugs with (009 Distributor), the correct gap is .028". When using Champion REJ38 or REL37B shielded aircraft plugs, the correct gap is .016". Always use anti-seize thread lubricant on the threads of the spark plugs. Be careful not to get any on the plug as the lubricant can short and burn the plugs out. Never torque the plugs to more than 22 ft. lbs. When removing plugs, be sure that the engine is slightly warm. Never remove plugs from a cold engine as you can pull the threads. When using auto plugs with a magneto, the plugs must be regaped to .016". Note: When using Bosch W8A plugs with a magneto, reduce the gap to .016" FROM STEVE BENNETT'S "TYPE 1 ENGINE ASSEMBLY MANUAL". page 25 Art Bruce Kingsland, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:32 PM Subject: KR>spark plug torque > Can anyone give me the correct spark plug torque for a VW. I need the values for both the 14mm main plugs and the little 10mm secondary ignition plugs. Thanks in advance. > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 09:42:02 -0800 (PST) From: F Ross To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>Diehl Message-ID: <20031108174202.84199.qmail@web40909.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 10 --- Ronevogt@aol.com wrote: > For a good quality nose gear, check with Diehl > Aeronatical. They advertise > in the back of "Kitplanes" > > RV Or add this to your 'Favorites' file: http://www.diehlaero.com/ ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK alamokr2@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:08:27 -0600 From: larry flesner To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>aviation gas/heater Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031108130827.007f47f0@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: References: <15079938.1068265963133.JavaMail.root@daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11 >How long is Aviation fuel good for? > >Also winter starting a Continental 65? Any advice? I'm thinking maybe >make a propane preheater turn it on and head to the Cafe for a coffee. Darren Pond +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 100 LL should not be a problem after setting only three months. Auto fuel on the other hand will tend to "scum" up the carb and other fuel line parts with extended inactivity. I have no advise on winter starting your C85 other than to preheat. I built a preheater for the Tripacer for less then $10 for materials and the price of a 1500 watt ceramic heater. It will warm the entire engine compartment from 30 degrees F to 80 degrees F in less than 1 hour setting in the hangar. It is very easy to use , just slide it under or away from the airplane, and it keeps the heat source safely away from the engine compartment. I used 1/2" or 5/8" (don't remember which) insulating foam board with foil coating on both sides and built a duct that matched the outside dimentions of the ceramic heater. The duct is L shaped with the horizontal run (on the floor) approx 30 inches long and the vertical extends upward to just touch the bottom side of the cowl at the cutout at the firewall. I built a double 45 angle instead of a 90 at the horz to vert for better airflow. Just place the heater INSIDE the duct on the floor, place the vertical under the cowl and plug it in. I use a blanket over the cowl and close off the air inlets behind the prop to contain the heat. I used "Duct" tape to tape the duct together but the foil duct tape would probably be a better choice. This setup keeps the heat source well clear of the engine and I lose very little heat through the duct. It always feels cold to the touch even after an hour or more of running. Suggestion - don't put the heater on a timer that will cycle from day to day as the constant heating and cooling will only cause problems. You could end up with considerable moisture inside the crankcase. If you don't want to wait for a preheat when you want to fly I'd suggest the following. For a few dollars you could buy a thermostat, the kind that is wall mounted and controls baseboard heaters (direct inline) and mount it in a plastic electrical box. Either hardwire or wire with electrical plugs to accomidate the heater. Place the thermostat inside the cowl, set the temp and let the heater cycle to keep the engine compartment at a constant temp. I have a thermostat that I plug my electric kerosene heater in to that would work but it cost about $40, if you can find one. The suggestion above is a lot less expensive and should work just fine. My house has electric baseboard heat with several 1500 watt units and the thermostats have seen 25 years of use and are still working fine. As always, your results may vary. Good luck........... Larry Flesner P.S. I tried to use the round flex duct so don't bother to try it. It just didn't work. The square duct stands on it own, has better heat loss control, and just works better all around. It should only take you about an hour to build it. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 213, Issue 1 *************************************