From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 11:31 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 214, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Curing temperature for epoxy (Rick Wilson) 2. Re: Curing temperature for epoxy (Steve and Lori McGee) 3. Re: Curing temperature for epoxy (roger mitchell) 4. Curing temperature for epoxy 5. Curing temperature for epoxy 6. Re: Curing temperature for epoxy (Rick Wilson) 7. Les Palmer (Gavin Donohoe) 8. Engine Quits 9. Re: Wheels and stuff (Steve and Lori McGee) 10. Magneto point gap settimg (Brian G. Douglas) 11. Re: Engine Quits (Dan Heath) 12. Re: Wheels and stuff (Timothy Bellville) 13. Re: Wheels and stuff (Mark Langford) 14. primer and paint (roger mitchell) 15. RE: primer and paint (Ron Freiberger) 16. Re: Engine Quits 17. Re: Engine Quits 18. Re: Engine Quits (roger mitchell) 19. RE: primer and paint 20. plug removal (Colin) 21. Re: plug removal (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 17:40:30 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Wilson To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy Message-ID: <20031109014030.80045.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 Hi, Today I did some fiberglass work on my project, but before I was done the temperature dropped to around 45-50 degrees. Can anyone tell me if the epoxy will setup tomorrow when the temperature gets back up to around 70-75, or will it not cure at all? Hopefully it is not ruined. Thanks, Rick Wilson. ===== Rick Wilson, Haleyville, Alabama KR2-0200A -99% rwdw2002@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:52:00 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy Message-ID: <009701c3a664$11359310$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> References: <20031109014030.80045.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 With the chance of resoftening at 110 or so ? - why are we not encouraging the use of heat lamps? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Wilson" To: Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy > Hi, Today I did some fiberglass work on my project, > but before I was done the temperature dropped to > around 45-50 degrees. Can anyone tell me if the epoxy > will setup tomorrow when the temperature gets back up > to around 70-75, or will it not cure at all? Hopefully > it is not ruined. Thanks, Rick Wilson. > > ===== > Rick Wilson, Haleyville, Alabama KR2-0200A -99% rwdw2002@yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 19:52:21 -0600 From: "roger mitchell" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy Message-ID: References: <20031109014030.80045.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 3 the cooler temps,tend to slow cure time,two-three days , depeding on = what your next step is,if the temp drops in the 30 range might be = trouble,plug in a portable electric heater, I've been using safty-poxy = on MO. for two years now and seen times when it took three days,my garage is heated ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:00:06 EST From: WA7YXF@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy Message-ID: <75.1c1a3451.2cdef9a6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Hi, Today I did some fiberglass work on my project, but before I was done the temperature dropped to around 45-50 degrees. Can anyone tell me if the epoxy will setup tomorrow when the temperature gets back up to around 70-75, or will it not cure at all? Hopefully it is not ruined. Thanks, Rick Wilson. It should be ok. It will just take it a little longer to cure. Remember your not dealing with air temperature as much as the temperature of the wood or foam which cools and warms more slowly. Just heating the shop up doesn't cut it. You have to heat up the parts your working with. I would leave it in the jig or in position an extra day or so, after it's been warmed again to make sure it stays where you want it when it does finish curing. Lynn Hyder ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:05:32 EST From: WA7YXF@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy Message-ID: <6e.345bf69d.2cdefaec@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 With the chance of resoftening at 110 or so ? - why are we not encouraging the use of heat lamps? If it hadn't been for two light bars and six heat lamps at times, I never could have built my KR. ....ha Lynn Hyder ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:19:52 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Wilson To: KR builders and pilots Subject: Re: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy Message-ID: <20031109021952.87265.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <6e.345bf69d.2cdefaec@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6 It wouldn't be a problem to plug in a heat lamp except for the fact that my new building is 1,000 ft. or so from the nearest outlet. I haven't hooked up the electricity yet. Rick Wilson. --- WA7YXF@aol.com wrote: > > With the chance of resoftening at 110 or so ? - why > are we not encouraging > the use of heat lamps? > > If it hadn't been for two light bars and six heat > lamps at times, I never > could have built my KR. ....ha > Lynn Hyder > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ===== Rick Wilson, Haleyville, Alabama KR2-0200A -99% rwdw2002@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 12:23:39 +1000 From: Gavin Donohoe To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>Les Palmer Message-ID: <005201c3a668$7d49bd20$e14d8690@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 7 Hi all, I've been trying to contact Les and he's not answering !! does anybody know if he's away ?? Gav --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.535 / Virus Database: 330 - Release Date: 01/11/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:49:21 EST From: WA7YXF@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Engine Quits Message-ID: <77.1bf13922.2cdf0531@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Don. We have a fly-in breakfast here in central Oregon the second Saturday of each month and Dave Figer fly's his over 1800 hour, Vw - KR-2 from John Day, Oregon. He told me this morning that he had a whole gambit of problems test flying his. He wanted me to tell you of how he found his ram air intake was pressuring the carburetor stopping the fuel and in a ground test situation putting compressed air into the intake actually was blowing air bubbles through the fuel line into the tank...ha. The problem never showed up until he was nearly up to cruise speed. He uses gravity flow on his 2100 Vw. This is not an isolated problem. It has showed up in other designs also. Some think ram air is a cheep turbo. But, it's a no-no with some carburetors Lynn Hyder ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 21:09:39 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff Message-ID: <00c701c3a66e$e9b4a7d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> References: <011401c3a4de$f4dff9c0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> <000001c3a532$16a4c1f0$7f60570c@donnas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 Weekends only or anytime? Got any pics? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:15 AM Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > Hi Steve, > Give me a call at home (419)693-8104 (after 2:00pm est.) > And I'll go in to great detail on my conversion. > Tim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:26 PM > Subject: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > Hey there netters. I am looking for a sample of a fixed gear for the > KR2s that I can make my own with. Also the rim, brake disc and > mounting bracket > with axle. I have 3 relatives that are machinists and I intend in no way > to pay out a thousand dollars for what should be maybe a couple > hundred bucks worth of stuff. The same type goods on any other > vehicle would be priced much much less. So if you have a junk one > laying around and are anticipating getting new stuff, maybe we can > help each other out. The one relative owns his own equipment and does > jobs on the side, so maybe we could > get a group run going. Any one??? > > Safe Flying to ya! > Steve McGee > Endeavor Wi. > Building a KR2S widened. > lmcgee@maqs.net > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 22:38:39 -0600 From: "Brian G. Douglas" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Magneto point gap settimg Message-ID: <000d01c3a67c$05ac0160$d42f1e43@youryk5cbmeeo8> References: <011401c3a4de$f4dff9c0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><000001c3a532$16a4c1f0$7f60570c@donnas> <00c701c3a66e$e9b4a7d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: first-class Message: 10 Hi all Kr netters I have a revmaster 2100 in my KR, I just did a top overhaul and now (or before I bought it) cannot get a spark out of the magneto. Long story short, what is the gap for the magneto points?? I removed the mag after I could not get a spark thinking that the mag was bad. This was after much troubleshooting. I was playing with it in my hand after removal and got shocked. I know that a CDI would be the best replacement but..... just to d.... expensive Sugestions?????? Thanks Brian G. Douglas N8575C KR2 (TD) Killeen Texas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:32:14 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: Subject: Re: KR>Engine Quits Message-ID: <3FAE25BE.000003.01288@Computer> References: <77.1bf13922.2cdf0531@aol.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 RE: Some think ram air is a cheep turbo. But, it's a no-no with some carburetors Lynn Hyder =0D =0D What carb is he using?=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From DanRH@alltel.net Sun Nov 09 03:31:56 2003 Received: from mta01.alltel.net ([166.102.165.143] helo=mta01-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AInnQ-0002G5-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 03:31:56 -0800 Received: from Computer ([151.213.92.252]) by mta01-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20031109113654.ONJA4162.mta01-srv.alltel.net@Computer> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:36:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FAE26D7.000005.01288@Computer> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:36:55 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: <20031109021952.87265.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: Re: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: RE: With the chance of resoftening at 110 or so ? - why are we not encouraging the use of heat lamps? =0D =0D Sometimes you have no choice, other than wait until summer. Heat lamps g= ot me through the last two winters. This year, I am going to bring it into = the garage for curing only and use my Reddy Heater. I promised my wife, no sanding and no painting.=0D =0D You do have to be careful not to get the parts too hot, but they will tak= e a lot of heat. Keep checking and if it is too hot to touch, move the lamps back a little.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From DanRH@alltel.net Sun Nov 09 03:42:17 2003 Received: from mta01.alltel.net ([166.102.165.143] helo=mta01-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AInxR-0002MN-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 03:42:17 -0800 Received: from Computer ([151.213.92.252]) by mta01-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20031109114715.OOZF4162.mta01-srv.alltel.net@Computer> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:47:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FAE2943.000007.01288@Computer> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 06:47:15 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: <75.1c1a3451.2cdef9a6@aol.com> X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: Subject: Re: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: RE: Can anyone tell me if the epoxy will setup tomorrow when the temperature gets back up to around 70-75, or will it not cure at all? =0D =0D When the weather turns cold, you have to watch the temps. When I know th= at it is going to turn cold over night, and going to be warm the next day, I have been getting everything ready the night before and getting up early = to do the layup the next day.=0D =0D The reason is, the epoxy needs to be sort of "kick started". If it doesn= 't get kicked early on in the process, it may take weeks. I have found tha= t Aero Poxy does cure eventually, what you are using, may not.=0D =0D When you look at it today, it will still be very soft and by tonight, it will not be tacky anymore, but will still be soft.=0D =0D Remember, your results will vary.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From Sonerai1@worldnet.att.net Sun Nov 09 04:52:44 2003 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AIp3c-00030G-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 04:52:44 -0800 Received: from donnas (53.detroit12rh16rt.mi.dial-access.att.net[12.87.95.53]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <20031109125738113008541ue>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:57:39 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c3a6c1$25e1f490$355f570c@donnas> From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <011401c3a4de$f4dff9c0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><000001c3a532$16a4c1f0$7f60570c@donnas> <00c701c3a66e$e9b4a7d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:58:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KR builders and pilots List-Id: KR builders and pilots List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Anytime is fine Steve, But I have to work second shift till Thursday(2-10) I can snail mail you some pic's . but My lap to wont up load any from my camera.Asking Santa for a new Desktop Also give me your number in case I miss you and I'll call you back. Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:09 PM Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > Weekends only or anytime? Got any pics? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Bellville" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:15 AM > Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > Hi Steve, > > Give me a call at home (419)693-8104 (after 2:00pm est.) And I'll go > > in to great detail on my conversion. Tim > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:26 PM > > Subject: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > > > Hey there netters. I am looking for a sample of a fixed gear for > > the KR2s > > that I can make my own with. Also the rim, brake disc and mounting > bracket > > with axle. I have 3 relatives that are machinists and I intend in no > way > > to pay out a thousand dollars for what should be maybe a couple > > hundred bucks worth of stuff. The same type goods on any other > > vehicle would be priced much much less. So if you have a junk one > > laying around and are anticipating getting new stuff, maybe we can > > help each other out. The one > > relative owns his own equipment and does jobs on the side, so maybe > > we > could > > get a group run going. Any one??? > > > > Safe Flying to ya! > > Steve McGee > > Endeavor Wi. > > Building a KR2S widened. > > lmcgee@maqs.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:12:31 -0500 From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff Message-ID: <003501c3a6c3$22c168c0$355f570c@donnas> References: <011401c3a4de$f4dff9c0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><000001c3a532$16a4c1f0$7f60570c@donnas><00c701c3a66e$e9b4a7d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> <001101c3a6c1$25e1f490$355f570c@donnas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 Also Steve , since you are asking, I may be able to send you the 3 angle brackets to mount the spring gear ((6"x8"x 4"x1/2" 2024 t3) to your spar. you will need to drill the holes and clean up the rough edges but will save you time. I may have enough stock left over to cut 3, 41/2" brackets out of . Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:58 AM Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > Anytime is fine Steve, But I have to work second shift till > Thursday(2-10) I can snail mail you some pic's . but My lap to wont up > load any from my camera.Asking Santa for a new Desktop Also give me > your number in case I miss you and I'll call you back. Tim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:09 PM > Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > Weekends only or anytime? Got any pics? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Timothy Bellville" > > To: "KR builders and pilots" > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:15 AM > > Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > > > > Hi Steve, > > > Give me a call at home (419)693-8104 (after 2:00pm est.) And I'll > > > go in to great detail on my conversion. Tim > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:26 PM > > > Subject: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > > > > > > Hey there netters. I am looking for a sample of a fixed gear for > > > the > KR2s > > > that I can make my own with. Also the rim, brake disc and > > > mounting > > bracket > > > with axle. I have 3 relatives that are machinists and I intend in no > > way > > > to pay out a thousand dollars for what should be maybe a couple hundred > > > bucks worth of stuff. The same type goods on any other vehicle > > > would be > > > priced much much less. So if you have a junk one laying around > > > and are > > > anticipating getting new stuff, maybe we can help each other out. > > > The > one > > > relative owns his own equipment and does jobs on the side, so > > > maybe we > > could > > > get a group run going. Any one??? > > > > > > Safe Flying to ya! > > > Steve McGee > > > Endeavor Wi. > > > Building a KR2S widened. > > > lmcgee@maqs.net > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:23:36 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff Message-ID: <001b01c3a6cd$1045c420$2402a8c0@800Athlon> References: <011401c3a4de$f4dff9c0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><000001c3a532$16a4c1f0$7f60570c@donnas><00c701c3a66e$e9b4a7d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><001101c3a6c1$25e1f490$355f570c@donnas> <003501c3a6c3$22c168c0$355f570c@donnas> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 OK, I'm going to turn into a jerk now and put on my KRnet adminstrator's hat. This thread should have "gone private" long ago. The email addresses are clearly listed so there's no excuse for not doing it. There's nothing in here that several hundred people need to read. And it flagrantly violates the one thing that I keep harping on, deleting previous posts when you reply to something. Check the bottom of the post...there are FIVE "KRnet instructions" at the bottom. I've asked repeatedly that people actually READ those instructions, which includes the following two comments. For you people with short memories, I'll post them once AGAIN: 1) When replying to a post, delete everything except one or two key sentences from the previous post. It's really ridiculous to have to search thru 3 or 4 pages of stuff to find down at the bottom where some clown wrote "me too". Carrying all that useless baggage around from previous posts also gives people fits when searching the archives later, as they end up getting 10 hits for the same message. 12) Keep personal stuff offline. Finding that some other KRNetter is from your neck of the woods isn't a good enough reason to bother us all with your efforts to strike up an acquantance. Email him direct, rather than to the list. The rest of this list is located at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html and I would appreciate it if everybody would READ it and at least make some small attempt to ABIDE by it! Maybe public floggings will curtail it a little. Anybody that wants to start a chat version of KRnet is more than welcome, but I won't be joining you... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:12 AM Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > Also Steve , since you are asking, I may be able to send you the 3 > angle brackets to mount the spring gear ((6"x8"x 4"x1/2" 2024 t3) to > your spar. you will need to drill the holes and clean up the rough > edges but will save > you time. I may have enough stock left over to cut 3, 41/2" brackets > out of > . > Tim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Bellville" > To: "KR builders and pilots" > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:58 AM > Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > Anytime is fine Steve, But I have to work second shift till Thursday(2-10) > > I can snail mail you some pic's . but My lap to wont up load any > > from my camera.Asking Santa for a new Desktop Also give me your > > number in case I miss you and I'll call you back. Tim > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" > > To: "KR builders and pilots" > > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:09 PM > > Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > > > > Weekends only or anytime? Got any pics? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Timothy Bellville" > > > To: "KR builders and pilots" > > > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:15 AM > > > Subject: Re: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > > > > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > Give me a call at home (419)693-8104 (after 2:00pm est.) And > > > > I'll go in to great detail on my conversion. Tim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:26 PM > > > > Subject: KR>Wheels and stuff > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey there netters. I am looking for a sample of a fixed gear > > > > for the > > KR2s > > > > that I can make my own with. Also the rim, brake disc and > > > > mounting > > > bracket > > > > with axle. I have 3 relatives that are machinists and I intend in > no > > > way > > > > to pay out a thousand dollars for what should be maybe a couple > hundred > > > > bucks worth of stuff. The same type goods on any other vehicle would > be > > > > priced much much less. So if you have a junk one laying around > > > > and > are > > > > anticipating getting new stuff, maybe we can help each other > > > > out. The > > one > > > > relative owns his own equipment and does jobs on the side, so > > > > maybe we > > > could > > > > get a group run going. Any one??? > > > > > > > > Safe Flying to ya! > > > > Steve McGee > > > > Endeavor Wi. > > > > Building a KR2S widened. > > > > lmcgee@maqs.net > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 08:48:04 -0600 From: "roger mitchell" To: "kr net" Subject: KR>primer and paint Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3A69E.315EB600" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 14 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3A69E.315EB600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm getting dangerously close to primering my KR2S, help me out guys, = what products have you used, what advice can you give to make the job = easyer,faster,or better?=20 How about metalic paints,good /bad /or indeferent? ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3A69E.315EB600-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:06:16 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: RE: KR>primer and paint Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15 My experience is paint everything white, then add whatever color you wish. It makes it brighter and covers some marks and stuff. You almost can't paint anything yellow unless you paint it white first. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of roger mitchell Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:48 AM To: kr net Subject: KR>primer and paint I'm getting dangerously close to primering my KR2S, help me out guys, what products have you used, what advice can you give to make the job easyer,faster,or better? How about metalic paints,good /bad /or indeferent? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:47:09 EST From: DSprague01@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Engine Quits Message-ID: <189.21244075.2cdfbb7d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16 The carb is an Ellison EFA2 designed to be used in the 1835cc VW. Don ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:53:39 EST From: DSprague01@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Engine Quits Message-ID: <2f.4147796c.2cdfbd03@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17 Lynn, Do you know what kind of carb he is using? Don ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:54:56 -0600 From: "roger mitchell" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: Re: KR>Engine Quits Message-ID: References: <189.21244075.2cdfbb7d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 18 if you check out ellison's instructions, I believe you need to build a = pressure box around the carb for proper operation The carb is an Ellison EFA2 designed to be used in the 1835cc VW. Don _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:51:14 -0500 (EST) From: paulwasp@webtv.net To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com, krnet@mylist.net (KR builders and pilots) Subject: RE: KR>primer and paint Message-ID: <22854-3FAE7E92-1099@storefull-2194.public.lawson.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Ron Freiberger" 's message of Sun, 9 Nov 2003 10:06:16 -0500 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Precedence: list Message: 19 Hi, all; My question has to do with paint after the application of smooth prime. I understand that some of the builders are using another type of primer on top of the smooth prime. Why is that, when the smooth prime is supposedly compatible with almost any finish paint that is decided on? I plan to use S/P as the only primer. Why add unecessary weight? Any input on this subject welcome. Paul Gangemi KR2s, wings primed paulwasp@webtv.net Erie, Pa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:10:23 -0500 From: "Colin" To: Subject: KR>plug removal Message-ID: <00bd01c3a6ec$beb3c150$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 20 Not to be a pain Art, or contradict Steve Bennett, but in the 12 years = of working on all makes of auto engines with aluminum heads, unless = anti-seize was used religiously, it was a mistake to attempt removal of = the plugs from a HOT engine due to the plgs having a different expansion = rate than the heads, due to dis-similar metals. If doing a re-build one = might consider prior to head re-installation using steel plug threads by = installing steel thread inserts, available at most auto supply houses. = This eliminates the different metal issue and allows plug removal hot or = cold. Steel to steel presents no problems to removal unless either = overtorqued, or extensive time since last removal (rust accumulation = etc...). Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From N9FL@cybertrails.com Sun Nov 09 10:48:06 2003 Received: from mail.cybertrails.com ([162.42.150.35] helo=mail11.cybertrails.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1AIubW-0006m4-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 10:48:06 -0800 Received: (qmail 38021 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2003 18:53:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CenterDesk) ([162.42.84.172]) (envelope-sender ) by 172.16.3.31 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Nov 2003 18:53:04 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c3a6f2$b6da4480$ac542aa2@CenterDesk> From: "Louis Staalberg" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <20031109014030.80045.qmail@web21202.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: KR>Curing temperature for epoxy Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:51:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: Louis Staalberg , KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Rick, I have an old refrigarerator in the basement to keep pop etc cool. One of the posts that supports a shelve broke off and I glued it back with the Rand Robinson A & B epoxy ( Epon resin 813 and Versamid 125). I never shut off the refrigerator which is kept at about 40 to 45 degrees. A week later I put the shelve back, loaded it up with cans of soft drinks and it is still sitting there! Just FYI. Regards, Louis Payson, Arizona N9FL@cybertrails.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:30:27 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>plug removal Message-ID: <3FAE95D3.000001.00308@Computer> References: <00bd01c3a6ec$beb3c150$05462141@Beverly> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 21 RE: unless anti-seize was used religiously=0D =0D Anti-seize IS a religion. I always used it and will on this engine, alw= ays =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From DanRH@alltel.net Sun Nov 09 11:29:54 2003 Received: from mta02.alltel.net ([166.102.165.144] helo=mta02-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AIvFy-0007ko-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sun, 09 Nov 2003 11:29:54 -0800 Received: from Computer ([151.213.92.252]) by mta02-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20031109193453.TVFA527.mta02-srv.alltel.net@Computer> for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:34:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FAE96DE.000003.00308@Computer> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:34:54 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: <22854-3FAE7E92-1099@storefull-2194.public.lawson.webtv.net> X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: RE: KR>primer and paint Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: RE: I plan to use S/P as the only primer. =0D =0D I think if you use SP untill you are satisfied with the finish, you are g= ood to go. I used 2 coats of SP, wasn't satisfied with the finish, didn't ha= ve enough cash to continue with SP, so used the PPG primer that goes with my paint. My application with SP was strictly for the purpose of filling th= e pin holes and it didn't get all of them.=0D =0D Whatever works, and, for sure, your results will vary.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 214, Issue 1 *************************************