From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 6:36 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 216, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Looking for VW parts (Les Criscillo) 2. Franklin engine (Oscar Zuniga) 3. Aviation Photo album (F Ross) 4. Re: Franklin 150 into a KR-2S? (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 5. C-85 (MSaunders) 6. RE: C-85 NOS (Ron Freiberger) 7. fiberglass repair help (j stevens) 8. wings off plane (Colin) 9. Re: C-85 10. Re: C-85 - 1930s - Value? (Dan Heath) 11. Franklin 150 into a KR-2S? (Larry A Capps) 12. Re: Looking for VW parts (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 13. melting plenums (Mark Langford) 14. Canopy acrylic (Steve and Lori McGee) 15. Re: fiberglass repair help (Justin) 16. Re: Building wings/confused? (Mike Turner) 17. Storing Wing Skins (rick coykendall) 18. Re: Storing Wing Skins (roger mitchell) 19. Re: Storing Wing Skins (Dan Heath) 20. Re: Looking for VW parts (Les Criscillo) 21. RE: Building wings - Off the plane? (Ron Freiberger) 22. Re: Widened Canopy from Todd's (Scott Cable) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:22:13 -0500 From: "Les Criscillo" To: "KR2 Mailing List" Subject: KR>Looking for VW parts Message-ID: <014801c3a7c8$53d03e40$0300a8c0@your1rnfg39627> Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0144_01C3A79E.6AA6E620" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0144_01C3A79E.6AA6E620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Clear DayI'm looking for a Diehl Accessory Case from anyone who has = decided to go to another engine. I'm building a type I motor-probably a = 1915cc from GPASC. Let me know if there's anyone out there who has parts = gathering dust in their garage! Les Criscillo Tampa, FL Lcriscil@tampabay.rr.com LesLifeandfriends@groups.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_0144_01C3A79E.6AA6E620-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:27:57 -0600 From: "Oscar Zuniga" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Franklin engine Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 Scott writes- >I have an "opportunity" to purchase a 6a4-150-b3 Franklin Engine. I >don't have a weight on it yet, but I'm guessing at 275-295 lbs? This engine, in its military trim as an O-335, was 277 lbs. (see http://home.adelphia.net/~aeroengine/Franklin.html ). That puts it quite a bit heavier than even the Corvair, O-200, and most Subarus (except maybe Les Palmer's, but he's got air conditioning on his). And as long as I've got the soapbox, Jim Vance wrote- >I've only recently graduated from >Krylon spray paint from Walmart. Don't feel too bad... many of us are still in undergraduate studies at the "Rustoleum Institute" (inside joke for some older KRNetters and Mark Langford). Rustoleum in the rattle can is still my weapon of choice! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 13:57:24 -0800 (PST) From: F Ross To: KRnet Subject: KR>Aviation Photo album Message-ID: <20031110215724.37362.qmail@web40901.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031110162042.89844.qmail@web40912.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 I apologize for any trouble you may have had today viewing my yahoo! photo album at http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 I forgot to put the setting on 'Public' so others could view it. Should work okay now. Thanks to those of you who let me know OFF NET. You are welcome to copy any of the pictures. ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England UK alamokr2@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:59:19 -0500 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Franklin 150 into a KR-2S? Message-ID: <20031110.165919.2680.0.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 That sounds like quite a load for the firewall, plus the CG may be a problem. But it should climb like heck! On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:58:14 -0800 (PST) Scott Cable writes: > > KRNetters, > > I have an "opportunity" to purchase a 6a4-150-b3 Franklin Engine. > It's a 150 HP, 6 cylinder with all accessories including mags, > starter and Marvel Schebler Carb. I don't have a weight on it yet, > but I'm guessing at 275-295 lbs? > > As a viable replacement for my Corvair in my KR-2S? > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > Scott Cable > KR-2S # 735 > Wright City, MO > s2cable1@yahoo.com > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail > AddressGuard_______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:02:36 -0500 From: "MSaunders" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>C-85 Message-ID: <000c01c3a7d6$59f4ef10$54a69f18@jupiter2h32rv8> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 My sister has come across a C-85, circa 1930s, 'brand new' still in the = crate. This is part of an estate sale from a former Luscombe dealer. = My question is how much this would be worth? =20 Michael Saunders saunders01@charter.netFrom rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com Mon Nov 10 14:04:28 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-01-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.5.131] helo=ms-smtp-01-eri0.tampabay.rr.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1AJK96-000LGS-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:04:28 -0800 Received: from zippersystems (6534125hfc201.swfla.rr.com [65.34.125.201] (may be forged)) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAAM9ScD008601 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:09:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Franklin 150 into a KR-2S? Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:09:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <20031110.165919.2680.0.klw1953@juno.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com, KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: You'll find that a light, agile aircraft is more fun. At least that's my experience after sliding 2000 feet on wet grass .... In my Cassutt. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:15:05 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>C-85 NOS Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000c01c3a7d6$59f4ef10$54a69f18@jupiter2h32rv8> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Also called New Old Stock. Value depends on how rusty it is inside. You would have to open it up and clean it, but the surfaces would PROBABLY clean up nicely. Be sure to have magnetos re-lubricated. New Needle in Carm if it's rubber tipped. ALL rubber hoses replaced. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of MSaunders Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 5:03 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR>C-85 My sister has come across a C-85, circa 1930s, 'brand new' still in the crate. This is part of an estate sale from a former Luscombe dealer. My question is how much this would be worth? Michael Saunders saunders01@charter.net_______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 23:05:01 -0600 From: "j stevens" To: "krlist" Subject: KR>fiberglass repair help Message-ID: <000001c3a7dd$178be140$3b2dee42@CPQ28121814422> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 7 Hi all can anyone recommend a good book or video of fiberglass repair? thanks Joel ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:11:16 -0500 From: "Colin" To: Subject: KR>wings off plane Message-ID: <003e01c3a7df$f1d3c8c0$f2452141@Beverly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 8 Ron, I am concerned about no wing washout at all. The whole purpose of wing = washout is to preserve aileron authority/effectiveness at high angles of = attack, and near the beginning of a stall. While the stub portion of = the wing is stalling, the tips are not, and ailerons can still be used = to control attitude. With the CG being so sensitive in the KR, I = personally would not want zero washout so that the entire wing stalls = the same. With such a short coupling to the empennage, I would prefer = to preserve as much control authority as possible at/near the stall. = Since you are looking at sport pilot/light sport aircraft anyway, I = don't see any gain in performance that would outway the inherit = stability of some degree of washout. Dihedral alone I don't believe = will be enough. Just my opinion.... Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) crainey1@cfl.rr.com Sanford, Florida FLY SAFE!!!!From flesner@midwest.net Mon Nov 10 15:19:42 2003 Received: from sire.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.182]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AJLJu-000N1Q-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:19:42 -0800 Received: from dsc05-cir-oh-199-35-174-78.rasserver.net ([199.35.174.78] helo=larry-flesner) by sire.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AJLOl-0003O1-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:24:44 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20031110171825.007d94d0@pop.midwest.net> X-Sender: flesner@pop.midwest.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:18:25 -0600 To: KRnet From: larry flesner In-Reply-To: <20031110162042.89844.qmail@web40912.mail.yahoo.com> References: <05b501c3a720$a0e61090$1202a8c0@basement> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: KR>pictures X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: >I've opened a yahoo! photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 >When you get to that site, you'll need to click on the >'Aviation' album to open it. >Frank Ross, ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Good photos Frank but check out the one labeled C-140RF. I think what you really have a picture of is a "straight tail" C-150 converted to a taildragger. Check out the tail. That one caught my eye because I'm partial to C-140's as that is what I had my first ride in about 42 years ago !! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:32:07 EST From: Veeduber@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>C-85 Message-ID: <159.2743784c.2ce179f7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 In a message dated 11/10/03 2:07:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, saunders01@charter.net writes: > My sister has come across a C-85, circa 1930s, 'brand new' still in the > crate. This is part of an estate sale from a former Luscombe dealer. My > question is how much this would be worth? ------------------------------------------------ A better question might be: "How did a C-85 engine transport itself backward in time to the 1930's?" :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:06:33 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>C-85 - 1930s - Value? Message-ID: <3FB03619.000009.02948@Computer> References: <159.2743784c.2ce179f7@aol.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 10 Bob,=0D =0D I have a friend here who knows just about all there is to know about anti= que aircraft. First, he isn't absolutely sure, but he doubts that it is eith= er, from the 30's, or that it is a C-85, because he does not think that they made that engine then.=0D =0D He says that it should have a log book with it, that came from the factor= y.=20 He also says that if it has been preserved, it should be worth about $500= 0.=20 However, this guy buys a lot of stuff and then sells them for more than h= e paid for it, so it might be worth a little more than that. He also says that you will have to do an overhaul on it anyway. =0D =0D PS: I would have replied to you directly, but I wanted to give the netter= s an opportunity to correct me in the event they know that any of this is wrong.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com Mon Nov 10 18:15:11 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-01-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.5.131] helo=ms-smtp-01-eri0.tampabay.rr.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1AJO3j-000PVF-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:15:11 -0800 Received: from zippersystems (6534125hfc201.swfla.rr.com [65.34.125.201] (may be forged)) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id hAB2K6cD001710;Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:20:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>wings off plane Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:20:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <003e01c3a7df$f1d3c8c0$f2452141@Beverly> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com, KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Response to Colin Rainey's comments; I intend to provide the aileron effectiveness using slotted airfoils in the outer half of the panel, to accomplish the same result without a loss of lift. Rather, there will be an increase in lift with a corresponding increase in drag. This will be commensurate with the speed limitations of the Sport Pilot category. I had already built the elevator with provisions for anti-servo tabs to reduce pitch sensitivity. Part of the reason for this approach is that I have all the parts to do the job, rather than starting over. The KR platform is not perhaps a good choice, but it'll work for me, 'cause I have the hard part finished. Suggestions for any other ways to accomplish the task will be appreciated. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com Colin said; Ron, I am concerned about no wing washout at all. The whole purpose of wing washout is to preserve aileron authority/effectiveness at high angles of attack, and near the beginning of a stall. While the stub portion of the wing is stalling, the tips are not, and ailerons can still be used to control attitude. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:41:51 -0600 From: "Larry A Capps" To: "'KRnet'" Subject: KR>Franklin 150 into a KR-2S? Message-ID: <000301c3a7fd$5d224f80$0200a8c0@schpankme> In-Reply-To: <20031110175814.43545.qmail@web40804.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11 You evidently missed reading the specification sheet, which came with your KR plans. If your looking for a greater useful load, you should select a different design that more closely matches your needs. One to beam up, Larry A Capps Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- I have an "opportunity" to purchase a Franklin Engine. 150 HP weight 275-295 lbs? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:07:04 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Looking for VW parts Message-ID: <20031110.221226.2476.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 Virgil, Miami ,$ offers, Virg On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:22:13 -0500 "Les Criscillo" writes: > Clear DayI'm looking for a Diehl Accessory Case from anyone who has > decided to go to another engine. I'm building a type I > motor-probably a 1915cc from GPASC. Let me know if there's anyone > out there who has parts gathering dust in their garage! > > Les Criscillo > Tampa, FL > > Lcriscil@tampabay.rr.com > LesLifeandfriends@groups.msn.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:29:52 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>melting plenums Message-ID: <062601c3a804$14c8def0$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 Somebody wondered what was going to keep my fiberglass/epoxy plenums from melting. I guess the answer is "the same thing that keeps your cowling from melting". I talked to Larry French tonight (Lionheart designer) and he said you could put the glass right up next to the fins and it would still be alright. Since Jabiru and others are getting away with it, I figure I can too. It's just like the other KR composites, no real load when hot. By the way, they weigh 10 ounces each (well, I've only finished one, since I'm on an attic cleaning binge here lately...) Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:53:44 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Subject: KR>Canopy acrylic Message-ID: <014101c3a807$6774a140$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 14 Anyone out there have an extra dragonfly canopy or equivelent? =20 Safe Flying to ya! Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 19:58:58 -0600 From: "Justin" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>fiberglass repair help Message-ID: <001601c3a7f7$5edf2970$47da1818@computer> References: <000001c3a7dd$178be140$3b2dee42@CPQ28121814422> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15 http://www.wicksaircraft.com/gotopage.php?page=41 There are a few books on fiberglasss. Justin N116JW www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/Home ----- Original Message ----- From: "j stevens" To: "krlist" Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 11:05 PM Subject: KR>fiberglass repair help Hi all can anyone recommend a good book or video of fiberglass repair? thanks Joel ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:22:09 -0600 From: "Mike Turner" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Building wings/confused? Message-ID: References: <3.0.6.32.20031109215012.0084ee70@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 16 If I was planning to glass the other side of the wing off the = aircraft I think I would glass the vertical surfaces of the foam ribs = prior to detaching the wings in order to cut down on the amount of = flexing of the wings. Mike Turner ----- Original Message -----=20 From: larry flesner=20 To: KRnet=20 Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:50 PM Subject: KR>Building wings/confused? >As for holding the wing true, mark your cord lines on the inboard >and outboard ribs=20 >Larry Flesner +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That is also what helped to take the flex out of the wing when removed with only one side glassed. SORRY ABOUT THAT! Larry Flesner _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 20:52:49 -0800 (PST) From: rick coykendall To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Storing Wing Skins Message-ID: <20031111045249.21307.qmail@web9405.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 17 I got a set of Diehl wing skins with the KR-2 project I just purchased and I need to store them. It occurs to me that I could install some hooks in the garage ceiling and string up four cargo straps -- enabling me to raise and lower them as needed. I am concerned that having them held by straps might cause them to develop a permanent bend. Is that a possibility -- and is it a problem? Rick Coykendall __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:32:30 -0600 From: "roger mitchell" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Storing Wing Skins Message-ID: References: <20031111045249.21307.qmail@web9405.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 18 most wing racks hold the wings with the cord line upright,to inhibit = bowing of the wings I am concerned that having them held by straps might cause them to develop a permanent bend. Is that a possibility -- and is it a problem? Rick Coykendall __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:38:10 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>Storing Wing Skins Message-ID: <3FB0BC12.00000B.02948@Computer> References: <20031111045249.21307.qmail@web9405.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 19 Rick,=0D =0D We stored our finished wings, strapped to the ceiling with the leading ed= ge down, trailing edge up. I had a friend who stored scratch built wings in= a rack that he built, leading edge down, trailing edge up. It was like a sling made of wide strap like that found in a lawn chair, on each end. I= f your skins are still in the box, why not ask Dan Diehl what the best way = is to store them? =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From DanRH@alltel.net Tue Nov 11 02:38:20 2003 Received: from mta01.alltel.net ([166.102.165.143] helo=mta01-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AJVue-0005f3-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:38:20 -0800 Received: from Computer ([151.213.92.252]) by mta01-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20031111104323.WYLG4162.mta01-srv.alltel.net@Computer> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:43:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FB0BD4F.00000F.02948@Computer> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:43:27 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: 3.0 X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: "krnet@mylist.net" Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Building wings - Off the plane? X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I suggest that you build yourself a Flip-O-Matic, ala Mark Langford. You will need it anyway. You must be building the top side on the plane.=20 Carefully remove it, flip your plane, turn the wing over, put it back on = and continue on your way. If you don't build it on the plane, you won't be s= ure it is right, until it is done. then it is too late. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From DanRH@alltel.net Tue Nov 11 02:39:44 2003 Received: from mta01.alltel.net ([166.102.165.143] helo=mta01-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AJVw0-0005iR-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:39:44 -0800 Received: from Computer ([151.213.92.252]) by mta01-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20031111104447.WYRC4162.mta01-srv.alltel.net@Computer> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:44:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FB0BDA3.000011.02948@Computer> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:44:51 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: <014101c3a807$6774a140$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: "krnet@mylist.net" Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Anyone out there have an extra dragonfly canopy or equivelent? X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Why not try Todd's Canopies? =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From DanRH@alltel.net Tue Nov 11 02:42:15 2003 Received: from mta02.alltel.net ([166.102.165.144] helo=mta02-srv.alltel.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AJVyR-0005oC-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 02:42:15 -0800 Received: from Computer ([151.213.92.252]) by mta02-srv.alltel.net with SMTP id <20031111104718.XDTL527.mta02-srv.alltel.net@Computer> for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:47:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3FB0BE3A.000013.02948@Computer> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:47:22 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (2001155.2001155) From: "Dan Heath" References: <062601c3a804$14c8def0$1202a8c0@basement> X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; X-Priority: 3 To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>Plenum construction material Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Mark, and others, do you feel that carbon is the only material that shoul= d be used or is regular glass OK also? =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From macwood@tinyworld.co.uk Tue Nov 11 03:46:20 2003 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AJWyS-0006Lu-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 03:46:20 -0800 Received: from [62.64.208.7] (helo=tinypc) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AJX3K-000E4M-QU for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:51:23 +0000 Message-ID: <02c401c3a84a$757a4720$07d0403e@tinypc> From: "Mac McConnell-Wood" To: "KR builders and pilots" References: <011401c3a4de$f4dff9c0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><000001c3a532$16a4c1f0$7f60570c@donnas><00c701c3a66e$e9b4a7d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> <000d01c3a67c$05ac0160$d42f1e43@youryk5cbmeeo8> Subject: Re: KR>Magneto point gap settimg Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:53:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mac McConnell-Wood , KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian G. Douglas" To: "KR builders and pilots" Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 4:38 AM Subject: KR>Magneto point gap settimg > cannot get a spark out of the magneto. > __Hi Brian, You don't say how long the mag's been out of service I bought a Revmaster that had been in its box for 10 yrs, the mag points had scaled up to a significant degree but I didn't see it at first ,when I chipped the scale off, she fired up like a good'un .The gap should be .016" according to my Bendix manuel. Good luck, Mac KR G-BVZJ UK_____________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:36:06 -0500 From: "Les Criscillo" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Looking for VW parts Message-ID: <01ba01c3a850$60fa43d0$0300a8c0@your1rnfg39627> References: <20031110.221226.2476.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 20 Virgil...send me some contact info.... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY=20 To: krnet@mylist.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 22:07 Subject: Re: KR>Looking for VW parts Virgil, Miami ,$ offers, Virg On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:22:13 -0500 "Les Criscillo" writes: > Clear DayI'm looking for a Diehl Accessory Case from anyone who has=20 > decided to go to another engine. I'm building a type I=20 > motor-probably a 1915cc from GPASC. Let me know if there's anyone=20 > out there who has parts gathering dust in their garage! >=20 > Les Criscillo > Tampa, FL >=20 > Lcriscil@tampabay.rr.com > LesLifeandfriends@groups.msn.com >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.htmlFrom n56ml@hiwaay.net Tue Nov 11 04:41:58 2003 Received: from bee.hiwaay.net ([216.180.54.11] helo=mail.hiwaay.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AJXqH-0006u0-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:41:57 -0800 Received: from mlangford2 (nokia-1.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id hABCl0vX1432233 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:47:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001301c3a852$5aad3030$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" References: <062601c3a804$14c8def0$1202a8c0@basement> <3FB0BE3A.000013.02948@Computer> Subject: Re: KR>Plenum construction material Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:50:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Dan wrote: > Mark, and others, do you feel that carbon is the only material that should > be used or is regular glass OK also? Since this is a pretty low-strength application, I used regular fiberglass. I could have made it out of one layer of 6 ounce carbon fiber, but all I have left is some odd shaped pieces left over from my wings. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:20:44 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Building wings - Off the plane? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3FB0BD4F.00000F.02948@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 21 You failed to understand that I don't have enough room to build them that way. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:43 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Building wings - Off the plane? I suggest that you build yourself a Flip-O-Matic, ala Mark Langford. You will need it anyway. You must be building the top side on the plane. Carefully remove it, flip your plane, turn the wing over, put it back on and continue on your way. If you don't build it on the plane, you won't be sure it is right, until it is done. then it is too late. N64KR Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cable To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Widened Canopy from Todd's Message-ID: <20031111144038.2609.qmail@web40808.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <014101c3a807$6774a140$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 22 According to Todd, my canopy should be shipped on Wednesday. Todd cooked me one up that was medium dark tinted, 2 inches wider than the "stock" KR-2S. Turns out the original builder that I bought my project from made the cockpit 2 inches wider, so sans the plan to use the Rand-Robinson premolded turtle deck. (Rats) Since I'm sometimes considered "vertically challenged", and that I own a 50th % Oscar Template, I've decided to remove about 2 inches from the bottom of my canopy. The theory being, I should get tail authority sooner on take-off, and since it's a smaller profile, should lend itself to maybe a faster cruise speed? (hopefully). A friend ordered 2 canopies from Todd for his Longeze project and is very happy with the quality. My point being is that Todd's Canopies: BSILVER05@aol.com , has the mold for a 2 inch widened KR-2S Canopy. http://www.kgarden.com/todd/ is his website. Steve and Lori McGee wrote:Anyone out there have an extra dragonfly canopy or equivelent? Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. Building a KR2S widened.lmcgee@maqs.net _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! 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