From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 242, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. mailing list subscriptions 2. End of the windshield issue (Dan Heath) 3. Re: upper crossmember 4. Re: rain and the kr (Ross Youngblood) 5. Re: rain and the kr - Laminar Flow (Dan Heath) 6. Re: Reorganizing (Dan Heath) 7. RE: engine and PSRU for sale (Ron Freiberger) 8. Re: Re: upper crossmember 9. Re: H/S spars strenght/length (Phillip Matheson) 10. Re: H/S spars strenght/ wing span (Phillip Matheson) 11. bike inner tubes (Dan Heath) 12. Re: Update (Joseph H Horton) 13. Re: 2003 KR Gathering Funds (Ray Fuenzalida) 14. Re: H/S spars strenght/ wing span (B. Wunder) 15. Re: H/S spars strenght/ wing span (Phillip Matheson) 16. Re: Re: upper crossmember (Justin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:54:28 EST From: WA7YXF@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>mailing list subscriptions Message-ID: <1eb.14dc5c62.2d038df4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Thanks Mark. We really appreciate the good work you do for the net. Lynn Hyder ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:00:33 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR>End of the windshield issue Message-ID: <3FD22751.00000E.00304@Computer> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 After another disappointing test this morning, Jerry and I decided to put= an end to this problem once and for all. We are putting posts, at the bend.= =20 We will cover the center with 3/16 Plexiglass which will require only a slight bend. Then we will put 1/8 Plexiglass on the sides because that w= ill require slightly more bend. No more heat forming. We will just warm it = up in the oven before applying. That is it, done deal.=0D =0D I am making the posts now an if all goes well, I will be putting in the windshield within the next two weeks. When this is finished, you won't believe how close we will be. =0D =0D I want to thank all of you who have offerred advise and help during this difficult time. I just wish I knew how Marty and some of the others were able to pull it off.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From robertjtallini@earthlink.net Sat Dec 06 12:13:44 2003 Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.189]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ASioC-000K1x-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:13:44 -0800 Received: from user-2injqrl.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.235.117] helo=earthlink.net) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ASica-00028t-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:01:45 -0800 Message-ID: <410-22003126620143359@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2004.0.129.0 (Windows) From: "robert tallini" To: krnet@mylist.net Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:01:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: f6deed849fa86e0985149417d7b2b0f394f5150ab1c16ac050a736d1df7ddf749891c1f73eaa93720cb1030b500e78b6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>spar webbs X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: robertjtallini@earthlink.net, KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I hope I am using the correct procedure as this is my first communication th KRNet. I do want to reply to the inquiry regarding the application of ply webbs on the wing spars. There is a b apparent inconsistency in the directions given in the manual and those given in the plans. I brought this to the attention of Mrs. Rand. Her explanation , as anyone having the plans already knows. the plans and manual were originaly written for the KR2. The KR2 requires a single ply webb on the aft face of the forward spar abd the forward face of the aft spar. The KR2S requires a ply webb on BOTH FACES of both spars. , robert tallini robertjtallini@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.From rossy65@operamail.com Sat Dec 06 12:37:43 2003 Received: from 205-158-62-67.outblaze.com ([205.158.62.67] helo=spf13.us4.outblaze.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1ASjBP-000KJJ-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:37:43 -0800 Received: from 205-158-62-68.outblaze.com (205-158-62-68.outblaze.com [205.158.62.68]) by spf13.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with QMQP id 6E819180168D for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:25:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: (qmail 56902 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2003 20:25:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws5-8.us4.outblaze.com) (205.158.62.74) by 205-158-62-153.outblaze.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2003 20:25:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 2596 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Dec 2003 20:25:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20031206202534.2595.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Received: from [199.108.226.254] by ws5-8.us4.outblaze.com with http for rossy65@operamail.com; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:25:34 +0100 From: "Ross Youngblood" To: "KRnet" Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:25:34 +0100 Subject: Re: KR>Tank Size/flying time X-Originating-Ip: 199.108.226.254 X-Originating-Server: ws5-8.us4.outblaze.com X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Justin, I have 11Gal in each wing (per plans), but the wings are HEAVY. If I had it to do over again, I would build a seperate foam tank build up that fits inside the wing, or I would build an aluminum tank. Build and LEAK TEST the tanks OUTSIDE THE WINGS, then figure a way to install them. I finally leak sealed my wing tanks, but it added possibly years to the completion on my wing tanks. (I built the wings in '94-95, and just got them sealed up this summer). See it at http://n541ry.us There are three things of no use to a pilot: 1) The sky above you. 2) The runway behind you. 3) The fuel in the truck on the ground below you. So... seeing that item 3 deals with fuel, I vote for wing tanks. Also... burn avgas if you have an Ellison, or if your bird will sit (as I expect many will). Auto gas gums up the works if you don't fly regularly. DOH! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin" Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 00:06:33 -0600 To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>Tank Size/flying time > I understand the KR is uncomfortable but is it that much extra weight > to make the wing tanks 10 gallons instead of 5 to give you that extra > gas when your on your way to Oshkosh? It takes more time and gas to > climb up to 10K for cruising than to just stay there longer. Pee in a > cup. (My KR is the size of a C150 so i'll be roomy enough) > > Justin > N116JW > www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/Home > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Mikesell" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 11:24 PM > Subject: Re: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS > > > > I did some calculations for tube tanks before and came to the > > conclusion that unless you can do a 11 to 12 in tube and it can be > > atleast 11 feet > long > > you won't carry enough fuel to make any real difference. It takes > > atleast > a > > 7 in diameter by 7 in length to make one gal...... > > > > David Mikesell > > 23957 N. Hwy 99 > > Acampo, CA 95220 > > 209-609-8774 > > skyguynca@skyguynca.com > > www.skyguynca.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lee" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:58 PM > > Subject: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS > > > > > > I read some of the concerns about added fuel. Someone stated(last > > week I > > think) added fuel adds to the time in the cockpit. (small cockpit). I > have > > been looking at options about added fuel. I have a dated KR with > retracts. > > No room in the stub wing for added tanks. I have been looking at > > options > of > > adding tanks in the outer wings. CG is a big part of my concern. > > My idea is to take an Aluminum tube 5 -6 inces in diameter and fit > > it into the > void > > on the leading edge of the wing. I would like sone feed back from > > the group. > > > > Lee Van Dyke > > Mesa AZ > > lee@vandyke5.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html -- ___________________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.operamail.com, which allows you to send SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:44:13 EST From: BABYWOLF@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Re: upper crossmember Message-ID: <152.27d56055.2d03999d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 does anybody have any good tricks for fitting the upper crossmember at the front end of the kr boat? I seem to be butchering a lot of wood ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:50:50 +0100 From: "Ross Youngblood" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>rain and the kr Message-ID: <20031206205050.23138.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Good thing you don't live in Oregon. I've seen some paint damage on spam cans out here due to flying in severe rain. I haven't flown my KR out here, but haven't heard from local EAA ers not to fly in the rain generally. Their was a canard aircraft which had some rain issues and I think I heard some similar comments from a Long-EZ pilot who had some canard fix. I'm open to hearing from netters on this, but haven't been "warned" off of flying when the wing gets wet. I think this is one of those "laminar flow" type concerns and at the moment, I don't even recall if the KR airflow RAF-46 (I think) was a laminar flow airfoil. It's older so I would bet it is not laminar flow... but I'm a hose head, and often wrong. -- Ross -> each time it drizzles i don't fly i cant find any information on the -> effects > of lite rain other then higher stick pressers with the Kr. it seams that > most wood propped airplanes don't fly anyway do to damage with or > without > urethane edge is what i understand. i just like to know if IM caught in a shower > will it do damage to the aircraft i always wipe it down if it gets wet or > washing i also avoid the hinge points (controls) mac. > > > > > > > > > n1055a flying > flymaca711689@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html -- ___________________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.operamail.com, which allows you to send SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 14:56:45 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>rain and the kr - Laminar Flow Message-ID: <3FD2347D.000010.00304@Computer> References: <20031206205050.23138.qmail@operamail.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 The RAF-48 is not laminar flow. I understand that the new wing is, but m= ay be of the kind that is not as prone to having problems in the rain. I a= m sure that Mark L. can answer for the new wing.=0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From n56ml@hiwaay.net Sat Dec 06 13:11:23 2003 Received: from smtp5.knology.net ([24.236.126.2]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ASjhy-000KrK-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:11:22 -0800 Received: (qmail 20903 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2003 20:59:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO basement) (24.214.88.148) by smtp5.knology.net with SMTP; 6 Dec 2003 20:59:23 -0000 Message-ID: <005101c3bc3c$391f5440$1202a8c0@basement> From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" References: <20031206205050.23138.qmail@operamail.com> <3FD2347D.000010.00304@Computer> Subject: Re: KR>rain and the kr - Laminar Flow Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:02:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Dan Heath wrote: > The RAF-48 is not laminar flow. I understand that the new wing is, > but may > be of the kind that is not as prone to having problems in the rain. > I am sure that Mark L. can answer for the new wing. Ashok tested the new airfoils with "trip strips" that simulate bug guts (which I would think would be a lot worse than rain) and found minimal impact to Cl. This was one of his design criteria. Almost done reorganizing the basement, and then I can get back to the KR... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:04:02 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR>Re: Reorganizing Message-ID: <3FD23632.000012.00304@Computer> References: <005101c3bc3c$391f5440$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6 My wife agreed to let me use the garage for the winter if I would reorgan= ize all the junk that is in it. Of course, in order to use it, I will have t= o make room for the KR anyway. It is insulated and I found that I can heat= it with two small electric heaters. This will make it easy to get the final glass work to cure quickly. Tomorrow we clean the garage.=0D =0D Later, =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From flykr2s@wi.rr.com Sat Dec 06 13:20:16 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com ([24.94.166.115]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ASjqa-000L8D-00; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 13:20:16 -0800 Received: from mark (CPE-65-31-81-78.wi.rr.com [65.31.81.78]) by ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id hB6L8CbS024787;Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:08:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002301c3bc3d$3159c6e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" , "Corvaircraft" Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:09:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Update X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Hello All, I have just completed my engine baffle installation. Also my ignition = wires are completed. As far as the baffles go, installing a set of = baffles is very time consuming. It looks like a simple job, but to get = a good seal with all the aluminum pieces, you really have to do a lot of = trial and error. If I were to do it over again, I would do the plenum = style like Mark Langford showed us he is installing on his engine. Here = is the link to view what I have accomplished over the last two weekends. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/photo.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 18:57:55 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>engine and PSRU for sale Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20031206173118.22989.qmail@web21208.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 I bought my KR2 project from Cornerstone Ministry. They are very good people to do business with. I took the "Boat" home on top of a Pontiac Montana, and they were very kind to help me move the project. Ron Freiberger mailto: r.freiberger at earthlink.net r dot freiberger.... get it? -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Rick Wilson Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:31 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>engine and PSRU for sale Hi, If anyone knows of someone that needs a big engine for a homebuilt, there is a brand new Chevy 350 H.O. engine still in the crate and a new prop speed reduction unit to fit it for sale at: www.donateyourplane.com They are selling it at an almost giveaway price of $2100.00 for both- $1500.00 for the engine and $600.00 for the psru. There are some pics of it there. They also have several other projects for sale very reasonable. Rick Wilson. ===== Rick Wilson, Haleyville, Alabama KR2-0200A -99% rwdw2002@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:30:39 -0500 (EST) From: paulwasp@webtv.net To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Subject: Re: KR>Re: upper crossmember Message-ID: <5750-3FD274AF-1437@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: BABYWOLF@aol.com's message of Sat, 6 Dec 2003 15:44:13 EST Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Precedence: list Message: 8 Hi; I used old bike inner tubes to keep things tight....they'll encircle the whole boat. Just about the right pressure in my opinion. You can easily adjust pressure by pulling here and there where needed. I did my whole boat this way....used about 7-8 old inner tubes. Just put 'em on, and go do something else till the T-88 dries. Try it, results won't vary. Paul Gangemi KR2s....priming Erie, Pa. http://community.webtv.net/paulwasp/paulwaspspad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:16:35 +1100 From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> H/S spars strenght/length Message-ID: <006701c3bc5f$c250dc20$8797dccb@ralf> References: <001b01c3baeb$ee682770$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><3.0.6.32.20031205100101.00841cd0@pop.midwest.net><3.0.6.32.20031205174930.007f8760@pop.midwest.net><00a401c3bb9a$34e0a0c0$6400a8c0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 Thank you for your comments. I'm still very confused. I have sent and email to Dan Diehl, for his comments, I will post his reply. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and home built Parts and Kits at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Cooper" To: "KRnet" Sent: 06 December 2003 12:07 Subject: Re: KR> H/S spars strenght Bernie wrote: >In the KR2S supplementary drawings there is nothing shown for HS spars Does this mean that the KR2 and KR2S HS spar dimensions are identical? Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_cooper@msn.com See my KR project at: www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html_________________________________ ______________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 12:18:36 +1100 From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> H/S spars strenght/ wing span Message-ID: <006d01c3bc60$0a5794a0$8797dccb@ralf> References: <001b01c3baeb$ee682770$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> <3.0.6.32.20031205100101.00841cd0@pop.midwest.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20031205163458.024fa088@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Can someone please tell me then , What is the wing span listed in the KR2S plans, Please Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and home built Parts and Kits at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry severson" To: "KRnet" Sent: 06 December 2003 11:39 Subject: Re: KR> H/S spars strenght > > >What are the measurement for a KR2S tail ?????? > > Kr2 Vert stab = 40" KR2S = 43" > Horiz stab = 71" =71" (same) > > This is per RR plans. Only the vertical stab (rudder) was changed > going > from the KR2 to the KR2S. I suspect that this had to do with the longer > fuselage requiring a bigger tail to over come weather vaning. > > > Larry Severson > Fountain Valley, CA 92708 > (714) 968-9852 > larry2@socal.rr.com > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:31:38 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR>bike inner tubes Message-ID: <3FD274EA.00001C.00304@Computer> References: <5750-3FD274AF-1437@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 That is a cool idea. =0D =0D N64KR=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic=0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From lmcgee@maqs.net Sat Dec 06 17:56:29 2003 Received: from diamond.maqs.net ([66.187.32.14]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1ASo9t-000OYo-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:56:29 -0800 Received: from lori8v5h2xi9m3 (oxfo-pvc-133-39.dsl.maqs.net [66.187.41.37]) by diamond.maqs.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 861CDDB1C9 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:44:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003201c3bc63$b07afc20$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 19:44:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2727.1300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>A good steel data list. X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: For those that are interested. http://www.survivalistbooks.com/faq/metalfaq.htm Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net=20 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 21:28:09 -0500 From: Joseph H Horton To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Update Message-ID: <20031206.212810.-129613.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 Mark, That looks really good. I was just thinking that if Dan and Jerry ever get that heat forming figured out for us they could make clear cowls so we could show off the engines all the time. Whadaya think? Joe Horton > I have just completed my engine baffle installation. Also my > ignition wires are completed. As far as the baffles go, installing a > set of baffles is very time consuming. It looks like a simple job, > but to get a good seal with all the aluminum pieces, you really have > to do a lot of trial and error. If I were to do it over again, I > would do the plenum style like Mark Langford showed us he is > installing on his engine. Here is the link to view what I have > accomplished over the last two weekends. > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/photo.html > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 20:25:36 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Fuenzalida To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>2003 KR Gathering Funds Message-ID: <20031207042536.21559.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 13 I looked at some of the photos and saw that it must have been a great time. I will definitely support the next gathering although I don't think my KR2S will actually be ready by then. Who knows. I'll finally meet all the names I see here in Mount Vernon. Ray --- gpasc wrote: > To all: > > The bills have all been paid for the 2003 KR > Gathering in Red Oak, Iowa. I > have posted the financials here: > > http://www.greatplainsas.com/2003funds.html > > If you have any questions, please send me a separate > email. > > I will be forwarding a check to Larry Flesner for > $1864.75 for the 2004 > Gathering in Mt. Vernon, IL. > > A NOTE: We started the fund in 2002 with only $500! > The average cost of > the Gathering is about $3000 (tshirts/BBQ/beverages/beer/awards/etc.). > > Linda Bennett > 2002 & 2003 Sec/Treas > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:32:22 -0600 From: "B. Wunder" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> H/S spars strenght/ wing span Message-ID: <003d01c3bc83$7dd5b100$6400a8c0@computer> References: <001b01c3baeb$ee682770$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><3.0.6.32.20031205100101.00841cd0@pop.midwest.net><5.2.1.1.0.20031205163458.024fa088@pop-server.socal.rr.com> <006d01c3bc60$0a5794a0$8797dccb@ralf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 14 > Can someone please tell me then , > What is the wing span listed in the KR2S plans, Please > > Phil Matheson ----- Sheet W2 of the KR2S plans shows the wing planform and from that the wing span from tip to tip (which includes the 20" wing tip extension on each wing) is 23 ft 5 in. The span of the HS spars are the same for the KR2 and KR2S. r/ Bernie bwunder@gmpexpress.net KR2S Builder Lexington Park, MD http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n2w6 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 16:56:05 +1100 From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> H/S spars strenght/ wing span Message-ID: <002401c3bc86$d02f34a0$db97dccb@ralf> References: <001b01c3baeb$ee682770$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3><3.0.6.32.20031205100101.00841cd0@pop.midwest.net><5.2.1.1.0.20031205163458.024fa088@pop-server.socal.rr.com><006d01c3bc60$0a5794a0$8797dccb@ralf> <003d01c3bc83$7dd5b100$6400a8c0@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15 Bernie thanks Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and home built Parts and Kits at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 05:02:58 -0800 From: "Justin" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Re: upper crossmember Message-ID: <001601c3bcc2$700a33e0$47da1818@computer> References: <5750-3FD274AF-1437@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16 I think he mean't that he can't cut it right? What I did is put the wood where it is sopposed to go but on top of the members and draw both lines for both angles on each side. Then go sand to fit. I used a small 5" disk sander that allowed me to adjust the angle. Justin N116JW www.geocities.com/attngrabber14/Home ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: Re: KR>Re: upper crossmember > Hi; > I used old bike inner tubes to keep things tight....they'll encircle > the whole boat. Just about the right pressure in my opinion. You can > easily adjust pressure by pulling here and there where needed. I did > my whole boat this way....used about 7-8 old inner tubes. Just put 'em > on, and go do something else till the T-88 dries. > > Try it, results won't vary. > > Paul Gangemi > KR2s....priming > Erie, Pa. > > > > > http://community.webtv.net/paulwasp/paulwaspspad > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 242, Issue 1 *************************************