From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 258, Issue 2 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: I would trailer the KR home! (Orma Robbins) 2. pictures (larry flesner) 3. Re: Brakes (Timothy Bellville) 4. RE: Hughs glue (Ron Freiberger) 5. prop needed- off topic (Oscar Zuniga) 6. Re: Re: Speed Handle (Scott Cable) 7. RE: Airplane for sale. (Jeff Waldron) 8. Re: I would trailer the KR home! (Scott Cable) 9. Re: Brakes (James R Freeman) 10. Re: My Kid Is much cheaper. (larry severson) 11. RE: pictures (Jack Cooper) 12. Re: Airplane for sale. (cartera) 13. Canopy Release Handles (Scott Cable) 14. Re: Airfoil Information (Richard Selix) 15. glassing decks (larry severson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:46:04 -0500 From: "Orma Robbins" To: "KRnet" , Subject: Re: KR>I would trailer the KR home! Message-ID: <029e01c3c95b$1d5766e0$5dcb4944@ROBBINS1> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 KR-2 on the trailer at home in Alaska, I have trailered my KR to Minnisota and back to Michigan. I used a small modified boat trailer and sat the KR on top of a 3/4 ply sheet sitting on its main wheels and built an tail stand for the back. The tail stand did not have enough padding and did a little damage. Other then that the KR did very well on it own gear. Orma aka AviationMech 19 Years flying the KR-2 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:57:01 -0600 From: larry flesner To: KRnet Subject: KR>pictures Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031223075701.007dac80@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20031223071346.007e4810@pop.midwest.net> References: <001b01c3c87c$c1b6fa00$47da1818@computer> <37.423bc220.2d1570d2@wmconnect.com> <3.0.6.32.20031221175453.0087e100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 Mark Langford has posted three more photos of my KR at: http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flesner/ They are from flights #2 and #3 on Dec 17 while celebrating the 100th anniversary of flight. (they are the first three) Larry Flesner Carterville, Illinois ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:30:56 -0500 From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Brakes Message-ID: <002301c3c961$60eb7440$2f2c4b0c@HPHome> References: <000d01c3c905$c17a19d0$b82b4b0c@HPHome> <073101c3c92c$0f236df0$5dd790cf@HP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 No I'm sorry Jim I don't A check would be fine, Give me your address and i'll send them to you. Timothy Bellville 418 Whittemore St. Toledo , Ohio 43605 ----- Original Message ----- From: "James R Freeman" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 3:09 AM Subject: Re: KR>Brakes > Tim: > I would love to have them. I am located in S.E. KY. Not too far > from Dana. Do You have a PayPal account? > > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Bellville" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:35 PM > Subject: KR>Brakes > > > I have a complete set of retract wheels brakes and gear legs that I > will part with for $40.00 (that should just about cover crating and > shipping) I went with a fixed spring gear and have every thing but the > spring bar(had > to cut it to remove it) > Tim > KR2 N7038V_______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:36:23 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Hughs glue Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <027201c3c959$97978db0$5dcb4944@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Hughes Glue, aka FPL16A is Shell EPON epoxy with 2.5% thinner and a filler of Titanium Dioxide. It is better than T-88 ( in my opinion) but messy due to the coloration. I use T88, but would use either, depending on stock on hand. Zero concern regarding cold temps. Developed by the Forest Products Laboratory, an agency of the state of Wisconsin. Orma said; Hi Tim I would be more concerned about the wood in the damp, and ice forming in the cracks and crevices. Good epoxy is not going to break. I can't speak about Hughs glue. Orma aka AviationMech 19 Years flying the KR-2 Ron Freiberger mailto: r.freiberger at earthlink.net r dot freiberger.... get it? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:47:24 -0600 From: "Oscar Zuniga" To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com, sqrlnet@yahoogroups.com, corvaircraft@mylist.net, krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>prop needed- off topic Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 A friend bellied in his Mooney Mite with O-145 (gear collapsed). The prop is toothpicks, so we're looking for a replacement to get the plane back in the air. Anyone know of a Flottorp 63x60, used but airworthy, for this Mite? The plane is also certified to fly with experimental props, but an exact replacement would be best. Please email me off the list if you can help. Thanks! ( Do not archive ) Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net _________________________________________________________________ Grab our best dial-up Internet access offer: 6 months @$9.95/month. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 06:51:55 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cable To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Re: Speed Handle Message-ID: <20031223145155.50127.qmail@web40806.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20031223045334.39811.qmail@web40805.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6 --- Scott Cable wrote: > Dan, > I found it!!!!!! > it's Part Number 1046 and it's called a Speed > Deburring & C'Sinking Tool. $21.00 > It's on page 35 of the 1999-2000 Tool Catalog from > Avery Tools. > You might also want Part Numbers: > 15140 #40 Pilot (3/32) $10.00 > 15130 #30 Pilot (1/8) $10.00 > 15300 "High Hook" Deburring Cutter 100 degrees > $11.00 > > www.averytools.com > or 1-800-OK-AVERY or 1-800-652-8379 (order line) > Avery Tools > 2290 W. Hicks Rd. > Hanger 54-1 Unit 43 > Ft. Worth, Tx > 76131 > > KRNetters: > For those of you who are wondering what we're > talking about, see > www.kr-builder.org and see the post of the week. > Dan talks about how he "covets" Jerry's Speed > Deburring tool. > We call these at McAir "Doglegs" and they're > invaluable for doing C'Sinking and deburring holes. > Here's the one that I was wanting: US Tool Catalog page 109: Part NO: TP120K Sorry no Price www.ustool.com 1-800-521-4800 U.S. Industrial Tool & Supply Company 15101 Cleat Street Plymouth, MI 48170 ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:02:40 -0500 From: Jeff Waldron To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR>Airplane for sale. Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7 That KR looks a little dark, Last time I checked composite planes don't do well black. Especially in Arizona! Jeff Oh yea, there is a KR-2 on eBay right now. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26428&item =2449700089 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:05:22 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cable To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>I would trailer the KR home! Message-ID: <20031223150522.41917.qmail@web40802.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <029e01c3c95b$1d5766e0$5dcb4944@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8 I moved my project from Michigan to Missouri in August. We strapped the KR on top of my 75 Corvette. Used carpet padding between the gear legs and fenders of the vette, and carpet padding between the bottom of the fuselage and the roof of the car. No Damage, plenty of slack-jaw looks from passing traffic! --- Orma Robbins wrote: The tail stand did > not have enough padding and did a little damage. > Other then that the KR did > very well on it own gear. ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:20:03 -0500 From: James R Freeman To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Brakes Message-ID: <078401c3c968$3de9a550$5dd790cf@HP> References: <000d01c3c905$c17a19d0$b82b4b0c@HPHome> <073101c3c92c$0f236df0$5dd790cf@HP> <002301c3c961$60eb7440$2f2c4b0c@HPHome> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 Tim: My Address is: James Freeman 217 Jenny's Branch Rd. Whitley City, KY 42653 I may have missed the mail-man today, I was working till 5:30 AM and have just got up. I will put You check in the box now and if he has already ran, it will go out tomorrow. Thanks! Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Bellville" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: Re: KR>Brakes > No I'm sorry Jim I don't > A check would be fine, > Give me your address and i'll send them to you. > > Timothy Bellville > 418 Whittemore St. > Toledo , Ohio > 43605 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James R Freeman" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 3:09 AM > Subject: Re: KR>Brakes > > > > Tim: > > I would love to have them. I am located in S.E. KY. Not too far from > > Dana. Do You have a PayPal account? > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Timothy Bellville" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:35 PM > > Subject: KR>Brakes > > > > > > I have a complete set of retract wheels brakes and gear legs that I will > > part with for $40.00 > > (that should just about cover crating and shipping) > > I went with a fixed spring gear and have every thing but the spring > bar(had > > to cut it to remove it) > > Tim > > KR2 N7038V_______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:01:58 -0800 From: larry severson To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>My Kid Is much cheaper. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20031223090055.024e1f90@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20031222201846.008b6760@pop.midwest.net> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20031222151432.024f4a10@pop-server.socal.rr.com> <3FE77EBD.F20E76CC@arctic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 10 Jeanette Rand told me about that one. It may have included an expensive engine. >I'd like to hear more about that 90K worth of electronics in a >KR. I can't imagine it was able to fly! :-) > >Larry Flesner > > > >_______________________________________________ >see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 12:08:05 -0500 From: "Jack Cooper" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>pictures Message-ID: <410-22003122231785260@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11 Larry Congratulations for flying your KR. I noticed a bump, or something on the top surface of the wing out near the tip (first outing in white dress picture). What are they? Robert J. (Jack) Cooper kr2cooper@earthlink.net http://www.jackandsandycooper.com/kr2.html Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. > [Original Message] > From: larry flesner > To: KRnet > Date: 12/23/03 9:15:17 AM > Subject: KR>pictures > > > > Mark Langford has posted three more photos of my KR at: > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flesner/ > > They are from flights #2 and #3 on Dec 17 while celebrating > the 100th anniversary of flight. (they are the first three) > > Larry Flesner > Carterville, Illinois > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:09:27 -0700 From: cartera To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Airplane for sale. Message-ID: <3FE884D7.3080601@cuug.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 Dana, Glad that you are taking it as a compliment because that is just what it is. Anyone who can play the banjo like you has a good heart. Hope the back has healed because no matter what one says positive of negative the is always someone around to attack it. Enuff said! Everyone have a Very Merry Christmas! Dana Overall wrote: > This is a steal. Put together this thing would sell for 60K. It ain't > glass but one just may have to wear a mask when you pick it up. It > won't last a day. > > For Sale: RV-9A Tail (finished), Wings (finished) Fuse (nearing quickbuild > stage), Tool set (including pneumatic squeezer and 3 yokes), Engine > O-320-H2AD (first run), and extras. $21,000. Would prefer not to > separate. > Details at http://www.vondane.com/forsale/rv9a/ > > > I apparently really and truly disturbed a member of the KRNet with the > above post, which is truly an absolute steal. If anyone else was > offended, you have my apology. I looked at the guy in Alaska who was > trying to make a decision between a KR or a 150. Seems he was somewhat > perplexed by finding a KR with dual everything or buying a spam can. > Just thought someone else might be in the same boat. I guess I kinda > looked at this as, since it is not me selling it, a "look what is on > ebay" kind of sale. I got flogged across the back several times in a > private email:-) I guess you have to watch your back even if you have > done a great deal for this person in the past........mine is still > bleeding:-) Heck, my signature line probably is like Rush attending a > Kennedy family reunion:-) > > BTW, I often refer to my fiberglass building days on the "the other list". > > With that said, since we can introduce for sale or acknowledge the > usefullness of products for aviation that we are not part of, I've been > using this for about a month now. http://www.my-cast.com/pilot . I am > using a Motorola 720i color screen cell phone. It takes about 4-5 > seconds to get the moving Doppler radar but you can also get cloud > cover, visibility on the screen. In addition you get current TAF about > the airport you put in, full METAR plus decoded METAR. While this would > not be a substitute for radar, not that I encourage anyone to install > radar in a KR or any other airplane I might be associated with seeing > that radar may be a thorn under someones nail, it is a good little > situational awareness product. Another thing is you don't have to buy a > years subscription, you can do it monthly. > > Thanks Adrian, I take that as a compliment. See Ron, ya just gotta know > how to take things, or construe them in such a manner to suit your > needs:-). > > Sorry, the signature line stays. > > Dana Overall > 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host. > Richmond, KY > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" > Finish kit > Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. > http://rvflying.tripod.com > do not archive > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed > providers now. https://broadband.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html > -- Adrian VE6AFY cartera@cuug.ab.ca http://www.cuug.ab.ca/~cartera ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:54:09 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cable To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Canopy Release Handles Message-ID: <20031223185409.37521.qmail@web40804.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 13 Netters, I'm planning on using 4 each cable operated 747 overhead compartment door latches mounted to the upper longerons on aluminum angle brackets and I have some questions involving Canopy Release Handles. 1.) Is it required / advisable for an external canopy release handle. 2.) Is there a FAA requirement for labeling the canopy Release? 3.) I've looked throughout the AS&S, and Wicks catalogs and cannot find anything for canopy release handles What are most KR's Fitted with? 4.) Flush Mounted? I understand that a protruding handle can cause a buffet affecting the flight characteristics. 5>) Who Supplies the Handles? ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:01:52 -0800 From: Richard Selix To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Airfoil Information Message-ID: <3FE89120.EF15EA9C@earthlink.net> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 14 Greetings Alex: That airfoil was designed by Harry Riblett You can contact him at: Harry Riblett 416 Riblett Lane Wilmington, Delaware 19808 He has also published a great book of airfoils for General Aviation Richard Selix San Diego, California Alexander Birca (MD/RMD) wrote: > Hello All, > Sorry for off topic, just one question, may be some one will help me. > How could I find the info about GA 30U airfoil series? Particularly > Interested in GA 30U 414 foil. > > BR, > Alex Birca, > Moldova > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 11:22:26 -0800 From: larry severson To: KRnet Subject: KR>glassing decks Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20031223111824.025423b8@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <20031223145155.50127.qmail@web40806.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20031223045334.39811.qmail@web40805.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 15 I created both my turtle deck and fore deck nice and conformal with glass on the underside. When I glassed the top, while they were resting on the fuse, The decks dried pushed out. They no longer fit the shape of the hull. I do not know what happened. I guess that I will have to split the parts and rejoin them conformal. How did you do it? Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 258, Issue 2 *************************************