From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 266, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Accident report. (Ray Fuenzalida) 2. Control tubes (Steve and Lori McGee) 3. Tailwheel (larry flesner) 4. Re: Tailwheel 5. RE: Bowden cables (francis fenlason) 6. Tailwheel Size - Aviation Products Inc (Dan Heath) 7. Re: Bowden cables (Peter Johnson) 8. Russ Fenlason (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 14:31:26 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Fuenzalida To: r.freiberger@earthlink.net, KRnet Subject: RE: KR>Accident report. Message-ID: <20031230223126.92786.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 More importantly than filing a flight plan, had the pilot done his preflight homework? Did he have the frequencies, runway lengths, elevation and headings separately written? Why did he have to go around? Was lack of knowledge the cause of the accident? There is so much we, as PIC's, can control. It is a shame if we don't use all of the tools at our disposal. Ray Ron Freiberger wrote: It's clear to me that it was because he had not filed a flight plan!! ;o) I wonder how much the FAA spent on this investigation?? Ron Freiberger mailto: r.freiberger at earthlink.net r dot freiberger.... get it? Mark Jones gave us this "pointer". Just reviewing the FAA accident reports for December and see that Ed Baker crashed his KR-2 on 12-21 in Georgia. Minor injury only, thank goodness. Here is the report link: http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20031224X02084 &key=1 _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html _______________________________________________ see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Get your photo on the big screen in Times SquareFrom crainey1@cfl.rr.com Tue Dec 30 15:00:21 2003 Received: from ms-smtp-03-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.5.133] helo=ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1AbSqa-000Ef3-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:00:20 -0800 Received: from RaineyDay (242.69.33.65.cfl.rr.com [65.33.69.242]) by ms-smtp-03.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id hBUMnP6X009986 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:49:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002f01c3cf27$2b9560f0$f2452141@RaineyDay> From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:48:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Accident X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Netters, I know the KR PIC personally and the preflight information, preparation = for the flight, and so forth had nothing to do with the outcome of this = flight. This is just an unfortunate accident, hence the term, and his = aircraft will be sorely missed. It is truly a blessing that he nor his = passenger were seriously hurt. He has privately assured me of his = continued commitment to flying and that he intends to re-join the ranks = of KR owners as soon as possible. It is a bad mis-understanding by the public and some of the flying = public that not filing a flight plan, nor getting a weather briefing is = a bad thing. A local flight, according to the FAA any flight within = 50nm of the departure airport, does not require the preparation required = in FAR 91.103 I encourage all pilots to speak to a briefer in today's = airspace due to the activation of TFRs, and other accommodations that = can change hourly. The KR is a wonderful aircraft. But it like any aircraft must be = respected and flown within limits. These limits can be imposed by the = conditions of the flight, the aircraft itself, or the pilot. Please be = careful; I hate reading those things.... Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.htmlFrom c.midkiff@verizon.net Tue Dec 30 15:41:21 2003 Received: from out010pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.133] helo=out010.verizon.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1AbTUH-000Etv-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:41:21 -0800 Received: from charlesmidkiff ([4.41.133.173]) by out010.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20031230233028.QYEF18505.out010.verizon.net@charlesmidkiff> for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:30:28 -0600 Message-ID: <002401c3cf2d$30116470$0d02a8c0@charlesmidkiff> From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" To: "KRnet" References: <20031230144401.53418.qmail@web40808.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: KR>mechanical Go-kart brakes Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:32:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out010.verizon.net from [4.41.133.173] at Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:30:27 -0600 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I believe that John Shaffer is using hyd go-cart style brakes on his KR2SS. I was looking at them at this years gathering. Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Cable" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:44 AM Subject: Re: KR>mechanical Go-kart brakes > Oscar: > As a long time kart racer, I feel fairly qualified to > answer this: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:19:11 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: Subject: KR>Control tubes Message-ID: <001401c3cf55$3e0b65d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 2 Any one got a web page out there on a design of using tubes instead of = the cable system? Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmcgee@maqs.net=20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 06:09:40 -0600 From: larry flesner To: KRnet Subject: KR>Tailwheel Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20031231060940.007a5480@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <000701c3cef2$cdf99800$e6c12304@dslverizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 > >try this:http://www.aviationproducts.net/ >Norm Seel > >> >Aviation Products Inc >> >(805) 646-6042 114 Bryant St Ojai CA 93023 >> >Larry Flesner +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++== I don't think that's the one after checking it out. They sell sealants and adhesives and I saw no tailwheels listed. I keep checking. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:30:54 +0000 From: To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Tailwheel Message-ID: <20031231143054.EVRH1881.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@mail.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 northerntool.com carries a large selection of small wheels and tires. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:55:51 -0600 From: "francis fenlason" To: "'KRnet'" Subject: RE: KR>Bowden cables Message-ID: <000001c3cfc7$58043c60$1209efd8@primelibrary> In-Reply-To: <001401c3cf55$3e0b65d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 Is anyone out thee using Bowden cables for their control linkages? If so, are their pictures of "how to" on the net? It seems like it would be a lot less complicated, but would like to know if someone has tried it and it didn't work. Thanks Russ Breckenridge,mn _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:01:52 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR>Tailwheel Size - Aviation Products Inc Message-ID: <3FF30F10.000001.02196@Computer> References: <000701c3cef2$cdf99800$e6c12304@dslverizon.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 6 I called them today. They do not have a web address, but are going to se= nd me a catalog. I will scan in any pictures of tailwheels that even remote= ly seem as though they would be applicable to the KR and will put them on ou= r site as soon as I get the catalog. =0D =0D They are apparantly not the same company as the previous web address was given for.=0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20From s2cable1@yahoo.com Wed Dec 31 11:24:42 2003 Received: from web40809.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.78.186]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AblxR-00007p-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:24:42 -0800 Message-ID: <20031231191352.51663.qmail@web40809.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.76.64.17] by web40809.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:13:52 PST Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:13:52 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Cable To: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft Cc: WilliamTCA@aol.com, krnet@mylist.net In-Reply-To: <026401c3cfd1$8bf48c00$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: KR>Happy New Year X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Netters, I wanted to this opportunity to wish all a Happy and Prosperous New Year! I also wanted to personally thank Mark Langford, William Winne, Don Heath, Pat Panzera and last but not least all of the fine folks who put on the 2003 KR Gathering in Red Oak, IA., for all of the help, advice, and encouragement and hard work that you all have put in and given to me personally and to the KR and Corvaircraft Groups. Thanks again for all your efforts! Be safe and keep building your Dream! ===== Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:17:48 -0800 From: "Peter Johnson" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Bowden cables Message-ID: <000801c3cfe3$8db0b5c0$cb421a45@peter> References: <000001c3cfc7$58043c60$1209efd8@primelibrary> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 Hi Russ. I'm going to use Teleflex, or Morse cables for the elevator and aileron controls on my aircraft. I'm in Kenora, Ontario and here on Lake of the Woods we've had experience with the 'push-pull' cables for years in the marine industry. When installed properly they are a maintenance free item. The one issue that I am going to look into for my own curiosity is the weight difference between a Morse cable and a pushrod/bellcrank/pushrodorcable/bellcrank assembly. IMO the difference is going to be neglibible and quite acceptable for the speed and ease of installation of the Teleflex or Morse cables. Dial into the net and look for 'Teleflex' or 'Morse' Controls and you will find the technical info. I think it's the 44C cable that I will be using. It has the 1/4" diameter ends with the bulkhead fittings. Hope this helps Russ. Peter Johnson KR-2S stretched, widened, deepened with a Corvair mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "francis fenlason" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 9:55 AM Subject: RE: KR>Bowden cables > > Is anyone out thee using Bowden cables for their control linkages? If > so, are their pictures of "how to" on the net? It seems like it would > be a lot less complicated, but would like to know if someone has tried > it and it didn't work. Thanks Russ Breckenridge,mn > _______________________________________________ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > see KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 13:23:55 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" Subject: KR>Russ Fenlason Message-ID: <00a601c3cfd3$a2547940$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 8 Russ, Your ISP is blocking me and was unable to reply to your question. = As a short answer to your question, No I am not concerned to the = structural integrity of the forward deck as many have flown with some = form of removable forward deck. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 266, Issue 1 *************************************