From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 330, Issue 1 Date: 3/4/2004 5:05:29 AM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 140hp covair (safety's no accident) 2. Re: 140hp covair ????bad valves 3. Re: 140hp covair ????bad valves (Mark Langford) 4. Re: 140hp covair ?? bad valves 5. KR1 on EBay (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 6. Re: 140hp covair ?? bad valves (Mark Langford) 7. Re: 140hp covair ### bad valves 8. Prop hub extension and Revmaster Cowl (Dan Heath) 9. Re: Sealing leaks in Dan Diehl wing tanks (Long) (Phillip Matheson) 10. Advertising (Mark Jones) 11. Cheap spring clamps (Stowers) 12. Re: Advertising (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 13. Sealing leaks in Dan Diehl wing tanks 14. Re: Cheap spring clamps (Dan Heath) 15. RE: Cheap spring clamps (Stephen Jacobs) 16. Re: fuel vent (Martindale Family) 17. Re: Cheap spring clamps (Martindale Family) 18. Re: Advertising (Mark Jones) 19. Spruce Order 20. Advertising 21. Name 22. RE: Cheap spring clamps (Wood, Sidney M.) 23. KR-2 Weight and balance (Hans Maritz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 13:26:26 -0800 (PST) From: safety's no accident To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>140hp covair Message-ID: <20040303212626.95891.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 1 I have found a covair engine 140hp in the back of a old junk yard. How much should I offer/pay for it? It looks like it has been there since 1990. Is this engine good for use in a KR2? Can any one help me! John jtp7571@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster.From jtpulliam@yahoo.com Wed Mar 03 13:34:47 2004 Received: from web11205.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.187]) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Aye0s-000B5W-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Wed, 03 Mar 2004 13:34:46 -0800 Message-ID: <20040303212649.10736.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.61.234.69] by web11205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Mar 2004 13:26:49 PST Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 13:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: safety's no accident To: krnet@mylist.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>140hp covair X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I have found a covair engine 140hp in the back of a old junk yard. How much should I offer/pay for it? It looks like it has been there since 1990. Is this engine good for use in a KR2? Can any one help me! John jtp7571@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster.From N56ML@hiwaay.net Wed Mar 03 15:05:57 2004 Received: from smtp.knology.net ([24.214.63.101] helo=smtp2.knology.net) by lizard.esosoft.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1AyfR6-000CFg-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:05:57 -0800 Received: (qmail 20583 invoked by uid 542); 3 Mar 2004 22:20:37 -0000 Received: from N56ML@hiwaay.net by smtp2.knology.net by uid 502 with qmail-scanner-1.20 ( Clear:RC:1(24.214.88.148):. Processed in 0.032048 secs); 03 Mar 2004 22:20:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO basement) (24.214.88.148) by smtp2.knology.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 2004 22:20:36 -0000 Message-ID: <028601c4016d$e85b7f30$1202a8c0@basement> From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" References: <20040303212649.10736.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: KR>140hp covair Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:21:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: John wrote: >> I have found a covair engine 140hp in the back of a old junk yard. >> How much should I offer/pay for it? It looks like it has been there since 1990. Is this engine good for use in a KR2? Can any one help me! << You do not want a 140 hp Corvair engine for flight purposes, but you CAN go ahead and buy it, and sell the 140 heads to a Corvair nut and trade them for 110 hp heads. The 140 engine has valves that are prone to falling out, and don't put out as much power at 3600 as the 110. 140's are much more valuable to them, and 110's are more plentiful, so that's not a bad deal. It will certainly get you going. You're going to have to tear it down anyway, so I'd jump on it if the price is right. For more info, visit http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/donors.html . I paid exactly $100 for each of the four that I have, although I know of people who've spent as much as $500. $100-$250 is more common. In the grand scheme of things, if you paid $300 for it, that's still only about 10% of the overall price of the completed engine cost. But people are usually pretty proud of the 140's, so I doubt you'll buy it for less than $500. You need to join the CorvAircraft list, visit http://www.corvaircraft.com/ . Engines pop up all over the country there, and we tend to share the sources... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 18:25:58 EST From: Steelef@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>140hp covair ????bad valves Message-ID: <76.389188e3.2d77c386@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Mark-you indicated 140HP heads have problems with valves? Is it the valve stems, the valve heads, the valve guides or the valve seats that account for this fault in the !40HP? Franc Steel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 18:09:32 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>140hp covair ????bad valves Message-ID: <029601c4017c$f893ba20$1202a8c0@basement> References: <76.389188e3.2d77c386@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 > Mark-you indicated 140HP heads have problems with valves? Is it the > valve stems, the valve heads, the valve guides or the valve seats that > account for this > fault in the !40HP? Franc Steel Sorry, I left out the word "seats". The valves are such a large diameter that there is very little real estate left between them. The high temperature delta between intake and exhaust leads to distortion and cracking, resulting in the seats falling out, jamming the valve open. The good news is that it usually happens when you shut the engine off, but it also happens when running. When the engine is running, the valve keeps slamming the seat tight, but after you switch it off, if that valve is open, the seat falls out and gets cocked. f you're serious about building a Corvair engine for an airplane, you definitely need to go ahead and buy William Wynne's Corvair Conversion Manual from http://www.flycorvair.com/ . Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 19:17:36 EST From: Steelef@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>140hp covair ?? bad valves Message-ID: <84.2372b7c2.2d77cfa0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Mark L., thank you for the clarification regarding "valves" ? So the primary problem is applies the valve seat inserts ! Do guides & valves hold up well? Are the con rods usually okay except for GM's inherent sloppy balancing? Do the factory bearings hold up well to 100,000 miles in autos? -Franc . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 16:20:53 -0800 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>KR1 on EBay Message-ID: <005801c4017e$8ea6f530$6401a8c0@charlesmidkiff> References: <001801c3fbb2$668b6df0$e564a8c0@homedesktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5 There's a KR1 on EBay in the RI area. The link is below. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2463885855&category=26428&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1 Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 18:30:19 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>140hp covair ?? bad valves Message-ID: <02a801c4017f$dfdddcb0$1202a8c0@basement> References: <84.2372b7c2.2d77cfa0@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Franc wrote: > Mark L., thank you for the clarification regarding "valves" ? > So the primary problem is applies the valve seat inserts ! > Do guides & valves hold up well? Yes > Are the con rods usually okay except for GM's inherent sloppy balancing? Yes, in fact, they run 500 hp sand drag engines using stock rods. Until recently, nobody even MADE aftermarket rods, because the stockers hold up so well. Nobody makes an aftermarket crank either, for the same reason. They are bulletproof. 102's and earlier had somewhat weaker rods, but still no real problems. > Do the factory bearings hold up well to 100,000 miles in autos? I guess so. What most people complain about that once owned Corvairs is the oil leakage. That can be remedied with Viton seals and careful attention to detail. There's an entire book devoted to the subject, and it apparently works. There is a CorvAircraft list where a lot of experts will be happy to answer more questions. Join it by sending a message to corvaircraft-join@mylist.net . Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:04:03 EST From: Steelef@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>140hp covair ### bad valves Message-ID: <157.2f230ca0.2d77da83@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 Mark wrote crak & rods good. Sooo, vill seek direct mit the" vair net". Danke sehn,herr. 73s -franc s ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 20:36:35 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Cc: "Jerry" Subject: KR>Prop hub extension and Revmaster Cowl Message-ID: <40468823.00000D.01684@Computer> Content-Type: Text/Plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 8 We need a prop hub extension for the Great Plains 2180. Does anyone know where we can get one?=0D =0D We are also looking for a Revmaster, or LIKE, cowling. Does anyone know where the best source is?=0D =0D Does anyone know if Phil Visconte is still around in KR land? If so, how = can I get in touch with him. =0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:57:11 +1100 From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Sealing leaks in Dan Diehl wing tanks (Long) Message-ID: <001c01c40194$64d9cf00$3b97dccb@ralf> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 9 Before I started fitting my Diehl wing skins, I went over the = instructions many times as well as looked at his video. My concern was = always the sealing the top of the wing tanks when the top wing skin goes = on. Well, you guessed it, the wing tanks would not hold light air pressure. ( test method, balloon on the fuel out let, cap on, air pressure in the = breather, and inflate the balloon) After much head scratching and lost sleep and dreams of cutting holes in = the tank, I did the following, without cutting holes in the tank, and it = worked. ( At least they will hold air pressure now, fuel test soon) Note, my tanks start just outward of the WAF. and finish at the 3rd rib, = and 11inches behind the main spar. I resealed all inside top sides of the tank, even if they = were not leaking. My tanks have two baffles each, that sealed at the top corners, and cut = out to allow fuel past the front and rear corners. Method With the wing upside down, fuel cap off and fuel out let and fuel drains = removed,=20 We will start with sealing the 3rd rib, or outboard end first,=20 Place some padding on the workshop floor to sit the wing tip on, raise = the inboard end of the wing to 45 dec. or more and support. Have a look = in the fuel filler hole with a small mirror, to see if you are able to = find the top edge ( which is now the bottom edge because the wing is = inverted) Note: As my wing is not painted as yet, I could shine a light on the = outside of the tank, and this would allow me to see in through the = filler, drain, or fuel outlet holes to light the inside of the tank.) I used a 60cc syringe and 1/4" I/D plastic tubing, I mixed some Vinyl = Ester resin with Cotton flox, and mixed till it was runny enough to pour = into the syringe, I tilted the wing to one side and injected the flox = into one corner, about 50cc. (Clean out the syringe with rag and wipe = the plunger after each use first before continuing or you will need a = new syringe every time you put resin in it. also a small amount of = Vaseline on the plunger rubber.) Now tilt the wing and allow the flox to run to the opposite corner. you = can place you finger in the filler or use the small mirror and wire to = check the flox as reached the other corner. Now support the wing back to = a level position ,to allow the flox to sit and dry, the wing needs to = stay at a steep angle to allow the flox to dry and make a nice 45 Dec. = finger fillet. That's the easy one. Now the fuel out let end. Reverse the wing position so the out let end is now at the bottom. this = time you will need a plastic tube that will fit into the fuel outlet or = into the fuel drain hole. ( 1/4" I'D) ??? Now do the same as you did for the other end. The long sides of the tank are a bit more of a problem. Stand the wing safely on the leading edge and lean the wing to allow the = top of the main spar edge to be done next. ( lean the wing over again = about 45 dec.. with the bottom facing up. and lift at the tip end to = allow the flox to run backwards to get into the closest corner first. Sealing the top edge of main spar side of the tank. This will depend on you tank design, number and type of baffles. My baffles were cut to allow fuel to get past the front and rear lower = corners of the baffle, but not at the top front and rear corners ( Wish = I had it done now)=20 I used a piece of welding wire and entered the fuel outlet to measure = the distance to the first baffle, then allowed about 4 inches more to = allow the plastic tube to enter and fall into the 2nd chamber I wanted = to seal. ( I used the wire inside the tube, to keep it straight to reach = the 1st baffle) I did the 1st & 2nd chambers at the same time. First I injected about 60cc of flox into the 1st chamber, then injected = the same amount of flox into the 2nd chamber past the baffle, through = the cut away corner of the baffle. I picked up the tip to ensure the = flox flowed back to the closest corner, then picked up the inboard end = and lifted it high enough to allow the flox to run along the inside edge = to the next corner. Then packed the wing so the spar is level and the = flox will now stay in the same position to dry. The 3rd chamber, I had the reverse the wing and inject the flox into the = filler hole and run it back the baffle. The aft or rear edge of the tank, this was were my tanks were leaking = the worst. I had to find a way to sit the wing or support the wing on it's trailing = edge with out damage. I ran flox in through the outlet , and between the baffles as I did in = the last paragraph. After it dried, I used a hole saw and cut a hole in the rib BEHIND the = tank,I used a smaller hole saw and a arrow shaft and cut a hole in the = next rib as well, this allowed me to see the full length of the back = outside wall of the fuel tank. As this was the main area of the leak , I wanted to run some flox along = the out side edge of the top skin and rear wall .(as well as inside the = tank.) I use the a piece of dowel long enough to reach through the inspection = holes to the very far end of the tank. I taped a small plastic cup to the dowel as a pouring device, I mixed up = the Flox as before and poured it along the entire edge of the tank, this = was the easiest part, as you can see what you are doing. ( you may have = to left the ends of the wing again to get the flox along the entire = length) I made a nice finger fillet along the rear edge of the tank, = left the wing supported in that position until dry. It now hold air pressure. That's how I did it, you may have some improvements, but it worked for = me, and I did not have to cut any holes in the tanks, thus no repairs to = the outside finish of the wing skin. My 2 cents worth. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia 61 3 58833588 See our VW Engines and home built Parts and Kits at:=20 http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 22:44:41 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" Subject: KR>Advertising Message-ID: <00a501c401a3$6a092de0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 10 I have noticed that the Rand Robinson KR advertising has all but = disappeared form the magazines. How is the KR now being promoted by Rand = Robinson? Is the business slowly ceasing to exist? Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA=20 E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at =20 http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 22:55:38 -0600 From: "Stowers" To: "krnet" Subject: KR>Cheap spring clamps Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 11 A buddy of mine told me how to build some cheap spring clamps. You take = some 3" or 4" PVC and cut it into about 1.5" to 2" stips, then cut a = slit into it. The 3" was a pretty tight clamp, also I used schedule 80 = PVC. You can see them at http://www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s/wings.html = ,still working on the web sight, so go easy on me. Jerry Stowers Duncan, Ok. www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s From kangus@talkcycle.com Wed Mar 03 21:09:03 2004 Received: from primerequisite.com ([65.245.129.202]) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1Ayl6V-000Hrw-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Wed, 03 Mar 2004 21:09:03 -0800 Received: (qmail 7300 invoked by uid 107); 4 Mar 2004 06:00:24 -0000 Received: from c-67-166-108-237.client.comcast.net (HELO p4) (67.166.108.237) by primerequisite.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2004 06:00:24 -0000 From: "Kevin Angus" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Advertising Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 22:01:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <00a501c401a3$6a092de0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: I just received my 'Sports Aviation' March 2004 and it had an ad on page 122. The web site is there and her answering machine sure works... -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+kangus=talkcycle.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+kangus=talkcycle.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:45 PM To: KR Net Subject: KR>Advertising I have noticed that the Rand Robinson KR advertising has all but disappeared form the magazines. How is the KR now being promoted by Rand Robinson? Is the business slowly ceasing to exist? Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 21:49:59 -0800 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Advertising Message-ID: <003b01c401ac$87ffd6b0$6401a8c0@charlesmidkiff> References: <00a501c401a3$6a092de0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 12 Mark, I was quite surprised yesterday when I called Rand Robinson to ask about a premolded fuel tank for a KR2 and Jeannette answered the phone on the second ring. She then checked for me and said she had one. So the check is in the mail and I should receive it later this week. Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA KR2 Stretched email: c.midkiff@verizon.net From: "Mark Jones" I have noticed that the Rand Robinson KR advertising has all but disappeared form the magazines. How is the KR now being promoted by Rand Robinson? Is the business slowly ceasing to exist? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:54:14 EST From: WA7YXF@aol.com To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Sealing leaks in Dan Diehl wing tanks Message-ID: <144.237d2c72.2d781e86@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 It now hold air pressure. That's how I did it, you may have some improvements, but it worked for me, and I did not have to cut any holes in the tanks, thus no repairs to the outside finish of the wing skin. My 2 cents worth. Phil Matheson Phil I always thought you had to sand a fiberglass lay-up some in order to provide some teeth for the new epoxy to bond to. You might keep an eye on your fuel filters in case some comes loose later. Lynn Hyder N37LH ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 05:44:15 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>Cheap spring clamps Message-ID: <4047087F.000009.03504@Computer> References: Content-Type: Text/Plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 14 I know a cheaper way. It is called Harbor Freight. =0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet=0D Date: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:48:46 PM=0D To: krnet=0D Subject: KR>Cheap spring clamps=0D =0D A buddy of mine told me how to build some cheap spring clamps. You take s= ome 3" or 4" PVC and cut it into about 1.5" to 2" stips, then cut a slit into= it The 3" was a pretty tight clamp, also I used schedule 80 PVC. You can se= e them at http://www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s/wings.html ,still working on th= e web sight, so go easy on me.=0D =0D Jerry Stowers=0D Duncan, Ok.=0D www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s _______________________________________=0D to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net=0D please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html=0D =2E ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:02:56 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" To: "'KRnet'" Subject: RE: KR>Cheap spring clamps Message-ID: <000901c401d8$440e2d40$0664a8c0@homedesktop> In-Reply-To: <4047087F.000009.03504@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 15 >>>>>You take some 3" or 4" PVC and cut it into about 1.5" to 2" stips, then cut a slit into it I think this is a brilliant idea - solves a wide range of struggles for me - many thanks. >>>I know a cheaper way. It is called Harbor Freight. Harbor Freight?? Please explain this to the lost African soul (A soul; Ah soul??) Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:45:44 +1100 From: "Martindale Family" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>fuel vent Message-ID: <006f01c401da$69168b80$75a0fea9@johnjane> References: <000101c400f1$1c391d80$2c0101c0@ate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 16 Serge Do you have a problem with fuel expanding out through the holes when it gets hot or does it run out if two wing tanks are interconnected and parked on a slope. I have just modified my EH Holden fuel caps on my wing tanks to a similiar arrangement to give an inch or so more "head" over my internal vents (now blocked off) that drained to below the wing. The latter were continually overflowing in the above circumstances but the extra 'head" has reduced this markedly. I could reduce it still more by brazing in a small tube still higher on top of the caps but it starts to look a bit like a coat hangar. I like the RV solution where the vent tubes run up the inside of the firewall (say for 18") then U-turn down again to drain via an opening below the fuselage facing the wind. You can just about stand the RV on its wing tip before the vents leak (well maybe I exaggerate a little but...). Have to watch out for exhaust gases/sparks near the vents I imagine but I'm sure Dana could discuss this further for us. I mention this option because you need to design it in early in tank construction. To retrofit is a big and difficult job for my tanks due lack of easy access thus my cheap interim solution above. John The Martindale Family 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA phone: 61 2 66584767 email: johnjane@chc.net.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 6:28 PM Subject: RE: KR>fuel vent > My KR2 only has a nifty aluminum fuel cap, which is formed of two > parts: a round cap, and a streamlined aluminium rod acting as a grip. > There is a tiny > hole on the rod (2mm) facing back, and linked to another, vertical > hole in the cap itself. And that's it. Has been working for almost 400 > hours like that. > > Serge Vidal > KR2 ZS-WEC > Tunis, Tunisia > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:54:55 +1100 From: "Martindale Family" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Cheap spring clamps Message-ID: <007001c401da$6ac1ca80$75a0fea9@johnjane> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 17 This is a terrific tip and I imagine different diameters could fit just about anywhere. Still gotta control the ol T88 slide slip however. The Martindale Family 29 Jane Circuit TOORMINA NSW 2452 AUSTRALIA phone: 61 2 66584767 email: johnjane@chc.net.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stowers" To: "krnet" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: KR>Cheap spring clamps > A buddy of mine told me how to build some cheap spring clamps. You > take some 3" or 4" PVC and cut it into about 1.5" to 2" stips, then cut a slit into it. The 3" was a pretty tight clamp, also I used schedule 80 PVC. You can see them at http://www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s/wings.html ,still working on the web sight, so go easy on me. > > Jerry Stowers > Duncan, Ok. > www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 05:50:10 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Advertising Message-ID: <002301c401de$d9271080$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> References: <00a501c401a3$6a092de0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> <003b01c401ac$87ffd6b0$6401a8c0@charlesmidkiff> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 18 Bud and others, That is excellent that you connected and received such good service. I must have missed the ad in Sport Aviation and when I could not find one in Kit Planes, I just became real curious what was happening with the advertising. I know it has to be expensive but it would be hard to keep the KR selling without it. Just wondering....... Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:49 PM Subject: Re: KR>Advertising > Mark, > I was quite surprised yesterday when I called Rand Robinson to ask > about a premolded fuel tank for a KR2 and Jeannette answered the phone > on the second > ring. She then checked for me and said she had one. So the check is in > the mail and I should receive it later this week. Bud Midkiff > Lynnwood, WA KR2 Stretched > email: c.midkiff@verizon.net > > > From: "Mark Jones" > > I have noticed that the Rand Robinson KR advertising has all but disappeared > form the magazines. How is the KR now being promoted by Rand Robinson? > Is the business slowly ceasing to exist? > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:31:35 +0000 From: To: Subject: KR>Spruce Order Message-ID: <200403041230.i24CUFlV087910@mxsf14.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 19 Before I order my spruce I want to know if anyone has a name of a contact at Aircraft Spruce. He, She would be familar with the KR. I plan on driving to pick up my order and talk face to face. (I live less than two hours away.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:37:52 +0000 From: To: Subject: KR>Advertising Message-ID: <200403041236.i24CaXp5012457@mxsf07.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 20 I believe it is up to KR owners to keep the KR alive. If more KR Planes would show up at major fly-ins the popularity would grow. I went to my first EAA meeting and several people were familar with the KR but have never seen one that they know of. I know its a long way off but I cant wait to WEAR MINE. ( I really like that small sports car look.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 12:44:22 +0000 From: To: Subject: KR>Name Message-ID: <200403041243.i24Ch2PE026343@mxsf19.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 21 Sorry, I forgot to tag my E-mails. Coffee has not kicked in yet. Steven Phillabaum Auburn, Alabama 334-887-5641 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:50:52 -0500 From: "Wood, Sidney M." To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Cheap spring clamps Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 22 www.harborfreight.com has 131 clamp listings. Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242 sidney.wood@titan.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Jacobs Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:03 AM To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR>Cheap spring clamps >>>>>You take some 3" or 4" PVC and cut it into about 1.5" to 2" stips, then cut a slit into it I think this is a brilliant idea - solves a wide range of struggles for me - many thanks. >>>I know a cheaper way. It is called Harbor Freight.=20 Harbor Freight?? Please explain this to the lost African soul (A soul; Ah soul??) Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 15:05:14 +0200 From: "Hans Maritz" To: "KRnet" Subject: KR>KR-2 Weight and balance Message-ID: <6B2B369A267AD14EAFF926582F9FB04353CB@mbzajhb01.za.corp.investec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 23 Hi All, Just acquired a KR-2(ZS-VYX) with a nose wheel. 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