From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 103 Date: 6/12/2004 9:00:07 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. VW operating limitations (Colin & Bev Rainey) 2. RE: VW operating limitations (Brian Kraut) 3. KRs and taxes (Brian Kraut) 4. Re: VW operating limitations (Colin & Bev Rainey) 5. RE: VW operating limitations (Brian Kraut) 6. Ignition noise (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 7. RE: Ignition noise (Brian Kraut) 8. Sanding Wings (Mark Jones) 9. RE: Ignition noise (Stephen Jacobs) 10. RE: Spars (Brian Kraut) 11. Re: Ignition noise (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 12. Ignition Noise (JIM VANCE) 13. Re: Ignition Noise (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 14. Re: Ignition Noise (StRaNgEdAyS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 05:13:57 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> VW operating limitations To: Message-ID: <002c01c4505d$97f6a1c0$34442141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters I have searched all through the archives and cannot find any post that comes straight out and states recommended operating limitations for the 1835cc VW engines. I have to mark these limits on the oil pressure and temperature gauges as part of passing my airworthiness inspection. The tach and airspeed indicator are already marked. Thanks in advance, Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 08:21:39 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> VW operating limitations To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" RPM red line 4,000 in GP operating manal, 3,600 in GP conversion manual oil tem red line 210 F oil pressure redline 80 PSI in operating manual, 70 in conversion manual minimum oil pressure 23 PSI minimum oil pressure at idle is 5 PSI in conversion manual CHT red line 410 F in operating manual, 420 in conversion manual I will send you both manals since you aparently don't have them. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Colin & Bev Rainey Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 5:14 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> VW operating limitations Netters I have searched all through the archives and cannot find any post that comes straight out and states recommended operating limitations for the 1835cc VW engines. I have to mark these limits on the oil pressure and temperature gauges as part of passing my airworthiness inspection. The tach and airspeed indicator are already marked. Thanks in advance, Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 11:48:29 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> KRs and taxes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There have been some discussions on the RV news group lately on taxes. It seems some people have had tax assessors assess a value to their uncompleted projects and tax them on it. I know that there are a few accountants on this list. What kind of tax do you get on an uncompleted project? I assume it is a state tax and varies by state? How do they even know you have a project? Do they tax you as soon as you register it and they get information from the FAA? Would I be better off registering my project now while it is only worth a few thousand instead of waiting until it is worth a lot more? Any advice, particularly from people with experience in Florida would be appreciated. I bought my last KR already flying and the state sales tax people contacted me for their cut. I don't know how it is done when you build it. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 11:57:18 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: Re: KR> VW operating limitations To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002c01c45095$f05ef280$34442141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks a million Brian I am going over today to mark them and install the other missing placards. Just details now to getting done! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 12:10:24 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> VW operating limitations To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There is a lot of good information in the Great Plains catalog also. Do you have a copy, if not, I have an extra from last year I can send. I have been using a plastic waterproof white label stock for labels and face plates for the electronics I manufacture. If you want me to do you up some placards on my color laser printer just let me know what you want and I will send them with the other stuff. I can make you up some beautifull looking ones. If you want something even better I recommend talking to Wayne at Aircraft Engravers. I think his site is engravers.net. I get all my engraved panels for ship consoles at work from him now. He does great work. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Colin & Bev Rainey Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 11:57 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> VW operating limitations Thanks a million Brian I am going over today to mark them and install the other missing placards. Just details now to getting done! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:23:23 -0400 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: KR> Ignition noise To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040612.142324.2700.0.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Due to the high cost of aviation plugs I decided to buy the Revmaster conversion kit to auto plugs---------------------that being said the engine runs excellant but now I have unbearable ignition noise. If I had to do it over I never would have done this. Any of you radio techs out the know of a solution?? If I have too I will re install a new aviation harness and plugs. ( but I'd rather not $$$ ) THANKS!! ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:56:42 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Ignition noise To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Are you using resistor plugs? Great Plains recommeds only Bosch W8AC plugs. I used them and had no noise. I am not familiar with the Revemaster conversion. Great Plains uses an aluminum machined piece that completely covers the plug. The standard shielded ignition wires connect to this piece and keep the plug completely shielded. Steve recommends connectiong a wire from the aluminum piece to the engine if there is noise, but I never had to do that. Does the Revmaster use a shielded harness? Are you using it off of a mag? Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Kenneth L Wiltrout Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 2:23 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Ignition noise Due to the high cost of aviation plugs I decided to buy the Revmaster conversion kit to auto plugs---------------------that being said the engine runs excellant but now I have unbearable ignition noise. If I had to do it over I never would have done this. Any of you radio techs out the know of a solution?? If I have too I will re install a new aviation harness and plugs. ( but I'd rather not $$$ ) THANKS!! ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:01:48 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Sanding Wings To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <002801c450af$b6bf3660$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have sweated about a gallon so far today sanding my left wing foam to get it ready for glassing which I hope to do this weekend. I had and I said had a goal of final inspection by July 1st...hahahhahhahhahhah. I am about to die laughing over that one. BUT....I will fly to the gathering cause I will not let Langford take all the awards home. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:01:24 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Ignition noise To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001601c450af$abd18370$c464a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" now I have unbearable ignition noise - Any of you radio techs out there know of a solution?? ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Kenneth There is no doubt that you can solve your problem without too much trouble (or $$). You will probably get some good advice here - if not, join this yahoo group: http://www.avionicsinstallations.com/ I keep an eye on their posts - some well informed lads that are happy to help. Good luck Steve J Zambia ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 15:14:48 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Spars To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I laminated my forward center spar caps today. They are currently clamped and drying on a plastic tarp laid out on my living room carpet because it is 91 degrees in Florida today. My wife wasn't too happy about that one when she got home. I can't wait to see her reaction when I start sanding in the living room in August! I found out that the flat countertop idea wouldn't work. I loaded one up on the cart at Lowes yesterday and saw that every one had about a 2" bow in it. It would have been too much work to shim it up and get it straight so I broke down and bought a 25' piece of 4" aluminum channel from the local distributor. It is perfect for laminating the caps. I will bolt two 10' pieces together for an 8" wide surface when I am building the rest of the spar. If anyone within driving distance of Jacksonville needs them when I am done let me know. $140 for a piece of channel is a lot of money to use it only once. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 3:02 PM To: KR Net Subject: KR> Sanding Wings I have sweated about a gallon so far today sanding my left wing foam to get it ready for glassing which I hope to do this weekend. I had and I said had a goal of final inspection by July 1st...hahahhahhahhahhah. I am about to die laughing over that one. BUT....I will fly to the gathering cause I will not let Langford take all the awards home. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 15:18:05 -0400 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> Ignition noise To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040612.151805.2700.1.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Steve--------------I already sent them an Email. Kenny On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:01:24 +0200 "Stephen Jacobs" writes: > now I have unbearable ignition noise - Any of you radio techs out > there > know of a solution?? > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Kenneth > > There is no doubt that you can solve your problem without too much > trouble (or $$). You will probably get some good advice here - if > not, join this yahoo group: http://www.avionicsinstallations.com/ > > I keep an eye on their posts - some well informed lads that are > happy to > help. > > Good luck > Steve J > Zambia > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:20:57 -0500 From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: KR> Ignition Noise To: "krnet" Message-ID: <001f01c450e4$af04a7e0$0300a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The auto plugs should have an R in the number. These are the resistor version of the standard plugs and will greatly reduce radio interference (Rotax changed their plugs to resistor type for this reason). If all else fails, buy some metal braid that is used for grounding straps, etc. Put it over the ignition wires from the plug to the distributor/magneto. Use heat shrink tubing at each end. Ground just one end of each wire at the distributor. If you ground both ends, then you have a conductor rather than a shield and it won't work. I've done these two things to the Rotax 582 in my Renegade. I can hear people in the pattern at airports a hundred miles away. Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:39:32 -0400 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> Ignition Noise To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040612.223932.2700.2.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Jim---------Someone told me the power wire to the radio needs to be sheilded as the eng noise is conducted through the radio via this wire?????????? On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:20:57 -0500 "JIM VANCE" writes: > The auto plugs should have an R in the number. These are the > resistor version of the standard plugs and will greatly reduce radio > interference (Rotax changed their plugs to resistor type for this > reason). If all else fails, buy some metal braid that is used for > grounding straps, etc. Put it over the ignition wires from the plug > to the distributor/magneto. Use heat shrink tubing at each end. > Ground just one end of each wire at the distributor. If you ground > both ends, then you have a conductor rather than a shield and it > won't work. > > I've done these two things to the Rotax 582 in my Renegade. I can > hear people in the pattern at airports a hundred miles away. > > Jim Vance > Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:09:09 +1000 From: "StRaNgEdAyS" Subject: Re: KR> Ignition Noise To: Message-ID: <40CBC555.000006.03744@motherfucker> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" "Someone told me the power wire to the radio needs to be sheilded as the eng noise is conducted through the radio via this wire??????????" A power filter can be fitted to the power bus of the radio stack. You can see similar devices attached to most car stereo power leads for just this reason. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 103 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================