From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 111 Date: 9/8/2004 8:59:36 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: To cool or not too kool (Jim Faughn) 2. Re: Aileron travel (Jack Cooper) 3. Re: Aileron travel (Barry Kruyssen) 4. Re: Aileron travel (Orma) 5. Re: Bill Clapp's KR2S (Steven Phillabaum) 6. Re: RE: KR plans (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 7. Gathering Attendance (John & Elaine Roffey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 20:15:19 -0500 From: "Jim Faughn" Subject: RE: KR> To cool or not too kool To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000601c4960a$79602540$18dc5540@jfaughn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry about the second message. I left one important thing out. In cruise, I run 325-350 degrees. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+jfaughn=socket.net@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+jfaughn=socket.net@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Jim Faughn Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 8:11 PM To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR> To cool or not too kool Orma, I have a 2180 and nothing fancy such as a turbo. On an 85-90 degree day, I will take off and CHT will climb to 400-425 depending on the altitude I'm climbing too. I never exceed 450 and if it is going over 425 I will lower the nose to get more air through the engine cowl or if it is a 100 degree day, I have actually climbed a thousand or 1500 ft and leveled off to cool it and then climb again. This is especially true when I have someone else on board and I don't have the option of pulling back on power. Anyway those are about my numbers. I don't think anyone has discussed this yet but I'll bet Mark can chime in here. If you have a bigger engine and didn't create a larger exit for the hot air, you could also simply be choking off the exit air. I seem to remember, but again someone else chime in, the exit area needs to be about 4 times the intake hole size. That seems big but my books are at the airport. Cooling and timing are critical but so are the cooling hole sizes. Of course another discussion will be the larger the size the more drag but that is another item with a different fix. Jim Faughn 891JF ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:35:20 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: Re: KR> Aileron travel To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-2200494913520281@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Tim You first need to know where the restriction to aileron travel is. I would start by disconnecting the control link between the belcrank and aileron then move each aileron up and down individually and measure the deflection. If you can get full deflection on each aileron then start working back up the system to find what is causing the travel restriction. My guess id that the problem is in the belcranks. Make sure they are free to travel without any restrictions and that they are made to plans (proper geometry) and connected properly. Also make sure there are no restrictions on the cables where they pass through the spar. If by now you haven't found the problem go to the stick and check for restrictions and proper geometry. Hope this helps. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Timothy Bellville > To: Mac McConnell-Wood ; KRnet ; AVM Mail > Date: 9/8/2004 1:14:23 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Not ready but it flys > > I have an original KR2 built to ken' and Ed's revised plans, and I > have discovered that I do not have enough Aileron travel. Does anyone > have any advice on how to increse it? They only move about 5 deg. up > and 10 down. That can't be enough. Any help please. > Tim > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 11:42:47 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> Aileron travel To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <00fb01c4960e$519711a0$7000a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Tim, Also check that the belcranks are correctly aligned. When the stick is centred both belcranks should be aligned the same as per the plans (I don't have a set in front of me now). By adjusting the cable lengths incorrectly it is possible to really stuff up the aileron travel (I speak with experience), also one of my counter weights was hitting the fibreglass. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://users.tpg.com.au/barryk/KR2.htm ----- Original Message ----- Tim You first need to know where the restriction to aileron travel is. I would start by disconnecting the control link between the belcrank and aileron then move each aileron up and down individually and measure the deflection. If you can get full deflection on each aileron then start working back up the system to find what is causing the travel restriction. My guess id that the problem is in the belcranks. Make sure they are free to travel without any restrictions and that they are made to plans (proper geometry) and connected properly. Also make sure there are no restrictions on the cables where they pass through the spar. If by now you haven't found the problem go to the stick and check for restrictions and proper geometry. Hope this helps. Jack Cooper ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 21:46:59 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Aileron travel To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006601c4960e$e66b5980$1e29d445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Tim I also made a mod to my belcrank years ago. I seem to remember a ration of 2 aileron units to 1 stick unit, two inches of movement at the belcrank to one inch of stick movement. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR celebrating 20 years To the gathering or bust ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 1:56:48 +0000 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: Re: KR> Bill Clapp's KR2S To: KRnet Message-ID: <391ph9$7no8dh@mxip02a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill, AUsome: Instead of going to bed I'm going to work on the spars. Absolutely a beauty. Very well done. Steven Phillabaum Auburn AL ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:09:02 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> RE: KR plans To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040908.221507.2156.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii jeanette may bring some to the Gathering, Virg On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:17:29 -0500 "francis fenlason" writes: > > > How many revisions of the plans have there been? I have several > sets > but nothing newer than mid 80's, Nothing is dated. It is in a blue > notebook. How far out of date am I? Thanks Russ > asiruss@702com.net > > > Second thought- Could some of you bring plans sets to the gathering? > I > would like to see some of the newer sets to see mods that have been > put > into the plans. Thanks Russ asiruss@702com.net > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 22:24:07 -0400 From: "John & Elaine Roffey" Subject: KR> Gathering Attendance To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00a001c49614$165380a0$2196e504@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I got the news last Friday that I would be running all the mechanical work on an outage at our plant starting September 17th. We met today on the work scope and schedule for the next twelve weeks and it is going to be six tens and Sundays as necessary. That casts my plan to attend the 2004 Gathering in stone. I had some hope that it would be a five ten schedule, but we have $32M to spend on reliability and it will take six days for twelve weeks to melt that into parts, pieces and overtime pay. This year sounds like the one NOT to miss, so you guys have a great Gathering and I'll buy the video. Please put me on the list Video Bob. John Roffey jeroffey@tir.com KR2S someday Fort Gratiot MI. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 111 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================