From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 138 Date: 9/27/2004 7:50:48 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 2004 Gathering (Mark Langford) 2. RE: After hours form (Brian Kraut) 3. RE: Gathering stats (unoffical) (Brian Kraut) 4. Re: Adjustable Rudder Pedals (Ron Eason) 5. Clapps trip home - ALMOST! (Steven Phillabaum) 6. Re: strobes (F Ross) 7. Thanks to Larry Flesner (F Ross) 8. Jeanne (Colin & Bev Rainey) 9. PayPal (Robert L. Stone) 10. Re: strobes (patrusso) 11. Re: OT: PayPal (Matt Lansford) 12. Re: strobes (Ron Eason) 13. Re: corvair engine question (Ray Fuenzalida) 14. RE: corvair engine question (Mark Jones) 15. Re: corvair engine question (Mark Langford) 16. Re: strobes (jscott.pilot@juno.com) 17. Re: OT: PayPal (Robert L. Stone) 18. ply scarfs (Dene Collett (SA)) 19. RE: Parade Flight at the Gathering (Jim Faughn) 20. Re: ply scarfs (Dean Cooper) 21. First Impressions (Mike) 22. AOL user problem (Mark Langford) 23. Re: strobes (The Weber's) 24. William Wynnes Book (Bdazzcamro@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:17:47 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> 2004 Gathering To: Message-ID: <00c101c4a48b$ffdfe850$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" NetHeads, What a Gathering! Best yet, in my book, and Larry has agreed to do it again next year. His organizational work was top notch, as others have mentioned, and it went very nicely. And as always, the camaraderie was excellent. I was very lucky to have flown not one, but THREE KRs while I was there, probably the biggest benefit of only weighing 143 pounds. Not only that, but I got to hang out the back door of Larry's Tri-Pacer again (thanks to pilot Bill) and get some more great air-to-air shots. I have about 800 pictures to sift through, so I might have to do it piecemeal, with first priority being a detailed look at Bill Clapp's amazing KR. I flew it and it just blew my mind when compared to the typical KR2. You can put it in a turn and let go of the stick and it'll just stay there, not changing pitch attitude at all, but slowly turning back to straight ahead, overshooting slightly, and then returning back to straight ahead, all in about a minute's time, and with pitch staying right where you left it! Pull it up to climb and it just stays in the same attitude until you tell it to do differently. And that eighth inch of trim is centered around the elevator's trailing edge, not up or down, so trim drag is minimal. I don't know how much of this is due to the overall length and tail volume increase that the S has, or how much is due to the new wing/tail incidences, but whatever it is, pitch stability is NOT a problem in the new generation of KR's! He says he can fly from 80 to 180 mph, the trim tab is moved a grand total of LESS than an eighth of an inch! That is nothing short of a miracle in my book, considering that many KR2s run out of up trim with a passenger aboard. I've heard Larry say that he can fly for something like half an hour hands off in his KR, so maybe it's mostly the length change that does it (feel free to chime in, Larry). Whatever it is, I'm pretty stoked to get mine in the air! And the Corvair was so quiet and smooth, unlike any small airplane I've ever flown in, with gobs of power. Truly a wonderful airplane. I really feel like the KR series is finally what it should be. The neatest thing about Bill's is that mine should be almost aerodynamically identical, except that Bill has added aerodynamic balances to his elevator. That would be easy to duplicate on mine, and I might just do it to quantify the difference later on. But for now I have faith that I'll also have one sweet-flying time machine on my hands! I won't swear that I'll get many photos out there soon, because we're going on vacation for 10 days shortly and work has me completely buried, but here's a picture of Steve Glover's outstanding KR2 just to hold you over until then... http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/glover.jpg Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:22:56 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> After hours form To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sounds like you must have recruited several new members... Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of robert glidden Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:37 PM To: Krnet Subject: KR> After hours form Netters Just wanted to thank everyone that came to the after hour forms at the campgrounds.This was one of the best fly-ins I've attended on large part because of the information that was shared by all at the late night forums.Look forward to future gatherings and more new planes.Congrats to Mark Jones on his first KR ride(hard to believe) and to Larry F. for a very successful gathering.I only hope Marks wife believes that smile is from the plane ride,because I know he still can't wipe it off.Again thanks to all that made this a fantastic weekend... Bob Glidden KR2S N181FW Corvair 110 _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:22:59 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Gathering stats (unoffical) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Plus the three on trailers makes 22! Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of larry flesner Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:53 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> Gathering stats (unoffical) KR's flown in: Offical count - 19 (believed to be a record) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 06:42:46 -0700 From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Adjustable Rudder Pedals To: KRnet Message-ID: <200409270642.AA553320760@jrl-engineering.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Loop the rudder cable back to the minor spar and put a turnbuckle in it, using rudder cable pullies. Tie the left rudder cable from the rudder to the left side of the loop and the right to the righe side. By adjusting the trunbuckle you can adjust the peddle height. KRron ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Mark Youkey" Reply-To: KRnet Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 13:22:30 -0500 Has anyone built independantly adjustable rudder pedals, and if so how? My wife and I have legs that are 4" different, so I'd like to make my pedals adjust at least that amount. I've thought up many devices that could possibly make this happen, but in this stage of my thinking, they all seem fairly heavy and complex. Thanks. Mark Youkey myoukey@cox.net Oklahoma City (Back in the game after a long time off--almost done with the boat) _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at jrl-engineering.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:46:25 +0000 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: KR> Clapps trip home - ALMOST! To: Message-ID: <3a5ac4$a8kic2@mxip12a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill Clapp here typing a message to all KRnet guys (since I dont have net access yet!) WE left out of Mount Vernon after an amazing Gathering on Sunday at about noon. The Gathering was a great time with a lot of fun people to be around with - lots of energy and excitment - and a good experience overall. It was fun to talk to all the guys and gals interested in my plane and see all the beautiful work on the others. Steve Glovers interior was outstanding! I have something to work on now for next year. We left out of MVN at about noon Sunday - stopped in Mount Pleasant an hour 30 minutes later to have some ribs at the steakhouse and then flew down to Auburn, Al because winds at home in Valdosta GA were over 20 and gusting 36. Fortunately Steve Phillibaum had left me his number and has provided room and board for me and my daughter. Many KUDOS to him. 41768 is now snuggling itself underneath a Citation at the airport. Hopefully the weather will improve for an uneventful trip home. I want to say thank you to all those who have helped and given advise to me the past couple years. To William Wynne at the Corvair Authority for his help and support for a great engine design that I trust. To Mark Langford for his work on the new improvements that make this KR a true joy to fly. To Larry Flesner for his work at the gathering. To Glenda Mcalwee for the use of here radio, and Larry Koutz for the use of the GPS. Thanks also to those who stopped by to look and talk. To those who are building, KEEP AT IT! I may have time available now to help others out. I may get back on the net now and talk to those who want my advise or just yell at me. I have facilities that I may have available to those wanting help with their KRs - paint booth and room to build. Currently Glenda McAlwee has her airboat and soon another KR in my shop for her and I to work on. So If you need hand on help and can come and visit or I can visit you and give you a hand (provided you ! pay for the COKE. :) I'm more than willing to help out. Again thanks to all involved for the great attitudes and for the fun at the Gathering - The next will be even better - if that is possible. I will be stuck at Steves house for another day so I can answer questions and threw in my two cents (1 dollar Canadian) for you. Bill Clapp ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:54:47 -0700 (PDT) From: F Ross Subject: Re: KR> strobes To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040927145447.58216.qmail@web40902.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii John, Joe Weber had his really nice, just completed KR at the Gathering and he has some good strobes which, I think, he said were easy to get and fairly inexpensive. Maybe he'll put in a word or so when he gets home and throws a log or two on his computer. Good to see you on the net again. Hope everything's well with you and yours. Frank --- John Esch wrote: > All > Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system > are people using? > I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system > and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack=true > > Would this be a system worth looking into or at > least for the strobes? > > John Esch > KR-2SSW > Independence, OR (7S5) ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:58:27 -0700 (PDT) From: F Ross Subject: KR> Thanks to Larry Flesner To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040927145827.16688.qmail@web40905.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I also want to add my thanks to Larry Flesner for such a great Gathering and congratulations for doing such a great job on his plane. Can't wait until next year. ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:18:47 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Jeanne To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <012501c4a4a5$491ccd80$89402141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sanford area looks pretty good. We have power again as of 4am this morning and a yard full of small branches. Now if Mother Nature will just settle down, I can get back to finishing the final details for inspection. Shooting for Sun n Fun this year, maybe an East Coast Gathering wramup in the Spring Summer, and The Gathering next year! Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:35:58 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: KR> PayPal To: "KR Builders Pilots" Message-ID: <4158335E.000003.02936@YOUR-AT5QGAAC3Z> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters, Can any of you guys explain to me how PayPal works and how to use it. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:31:13 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> strobes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001501c4a4af$728b9980$81a972d8@3z4xt01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The hotel business uses strobes in the hearing impaired rooms connected to the fire alarm, They are hardwired (110 Volts) AND have 9 or 12 volt back up. They are compact, light and fairley inexpensive but all have milk white lense covers. Use your imagination on that. Check your local hotel Maintence mgr for a source. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "F Ross" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: Re: KR> strobes > John, > Joe Weber had his really nice, just completed KR at > the Gathering and he has some good strobes which, I > think, he said were easy to get and fairly > inexpensive. Maybe he'll put in a word or so when he > gets home and throws a log or two on his computer. > Good to see you on the net again. > Hope everything's well with you and yours. > Frank > --- John Esch wrote: > > > All > > Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system > > are people using? > > I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system > > and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack= true > > > > Would this be a system worth looking into or at > > least for the strobes? > > > > John Esch > > KR-2SSW > > Independence, OR (7S5) > > > ===== > Frank Ross, > EAA Chapter 35, > San Geronimo, TX > RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK > Visit my photo album at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 13:27:19 -0500 From: "Matt Lansford" Subject: Re: KR>OT: PayPal To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003601c4a4bf$a01efa30$eed1af18@SPARTICUS> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Sure.... You can think of them in terms of a money broker.... You create an account with them with either a credit card number or a checking account number. You "send" mail to people via their email address, and it is drawn from your checking acct or credit card. They have to have or create an account also to recieve it. If someone sends you money, you also have the option of leaving it in your paypal account. To remove money from your paypal account, you can have it electronically transfered to your bank account, but it takes up to three days. (!!!) The plus side is that it's fast and easy to send and recieve payments from ebay, the downside is that the fees are steep... about 2.4% of the transaction. Add that to ebay's seller fees, and it's a big chunk of money. And 3 days is a ridiculous amount of time for an electronic funds transfer in my opinion! Does that help? Matt in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Stone" To: "KR Builders Pilots" Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:35 AM Subject: KR> PayPal > Netters, > > Can any of you guys explain to me how PayPal works and how to use > it. > > > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > > rstone4@hot.rr.com > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:53:11 -0700 From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> strobes To: KRnet Message-ID: <200409271153.AA1049035030@jrl-engineering.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii J.C. Whitney has 1,000,000, cpm strobe available and Great Planes also. Personnely I like Steves units. KRron ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "patrusso" Reply-To: KRnet Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:31:13 -0400 The hotel business uses strobes in the hearing impaired rooms connected to the fire alarm, They are hardwired (110 Volts) AND have 9 or 12 volt back up. They are compact, light and fairley inexpensive but all have milk white lense covers. Use your imagination on that. Check your local hotel Maintence mgr for a source. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "F Ross" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:54 AM Subject: Re: KR> strobes > John, > Joe Weber had his really nice, just completed KR at > the Gathering and he has some good strobes which, I > think, he said were easy to get and fairly > inexpensive. Maybe he'll put in a word or so when he > gets home and throws a log or two on his computer. > Good to see you on the net again. > Hope everything's well with you and yours. > Frank > --- John Esch wrote: > > > All > > Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system > > are people using? > > I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system > > and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack= true > > > > Would this be a system worth looking into or at > > least for the strobes? > > > > John Esch > > KR-2SSW > > Independence, OR (7S5) > > > ===== > Frank Ross, > EAA Chapter 35, > San Geronimo, TX > RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK > Visit my photo album at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the WebMail system at jrl-engineering.com ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:39:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Fuenzalida Subject: Re: KR> corvair engine question To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040927193917.58974.qmail@web42006.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Get William Wynne's book and check the block numbers before you do anything. Ray Bdazzcamro@aol.com wrote: hey group, I have found a '64 Corvair engine and was curious if I would be able to use this engine in a KR-2S. Is there any special parts I would need to use this engine? Is there a particular year I should use instead? I have noticed in a couple web pages most went with a late '60's engine. Any information would be helpful. Thanks David Bdazzcamro@aol.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:58:11 -0500 From: Mark Jones Subject: RE: KR> corvair engine question To: 'KRnet' Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC201902B9F@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain Here is a link to the codes. The ones which are good to use are highlighted in blue. http://www.corvaircraft.com/ Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI -----Original Message----- From: Ray Fuenzalida [mailto:ray_pilot@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:39 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> corvair engine question Get William Wynne's book and check the block numbers before you do anything. Ray Bdazzcamro@aol.com wrote: hey group, I have found a '64 Corvair engine and was curious if I would be able to use this engine in a KR-2S. Is there any special parts I would need to use this engine? Is there a particular year I should use instead? I have noticed in a couple web pages most went with a late '60's engine. Any information would be helpful. Thanks David Bdazzcamro@aol.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:18:22 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> corvair engine question To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <019b01c4a4cf$287c5940$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" David wrote: > I have found a '64 Corvair engine and was curious if I would be able > to use this engine in a KR-2S. Is there any special parts I would need > to use > this engine? Is there a particular year I should use instead? The only way you can use that engine (within reason) is if you go the 3100cc "big boy" with VW 94 mm pistons and cylinders, since that operation requires opening up the case and heads anyway. Mine is a 64, but it's bored to 3100cc so it was not a factor. As a general rule you want to use a '65 or later 110 or 95hp engine, per the web site Mark Jones posted. There's more on the 3100cc process at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/3100.html , but I wouldn't recommend it to anybody who's not a serious motorhead devoted to checking every detail of assembly, since so many variables get changed in the machining process. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:28:29 GMT From: "jscott.pilot@juno.com" Subject: Re: KR> strobes To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040927.142911.18059.284665@webmail07.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain John, The short answer is yes. The strobe you listed on E-bay can be used. I recently inspected a RV-9A that used that strobe power supply. The power supply is also compatable with the Whelen (and most other) aircraft strobes. Evn uses the same plugs. Jeff Scott -- "John Esch" wrote: All Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system are people using? I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack=true Would this be a system worth looking into or at least for the strobes? John Esch KR-2SSW Independence, OR (7S5) ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 16:32:00 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR>OT: PayPal To: Message-ID: <415886D0.000003.02512@YOUR-AT5QGAAC3Z> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Matt, Thanks for your reply and information,. Bob Stone -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 09/27/04 13:34:40 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>OT: PayPal Sure.... You can think of them in terms of a money broker.... You create an account with them with either a credit card number or a checking account number. You "send" mail to people via their email address, and it is drawn from your checking acct or credit card. They have to have or create an account also to recieve it. If someone sends you money, you also have the option of leaving it in your paypal account. To remove money from your paypal account, you can have it electronically transfered to your bank account, but it takes up to three days. (!!!) The plus side is that it's fast and easy to send and recieve payments from ebay, the downside is that the fees are steep... about 2.4% of the transaction. Add that to ebay's seller fees, and it's a big chunk of money. And 3 days is a ridiculous amount of time for an electronic funds transfer in my opinion! Does that help? Matt in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Stone" To: "KR Builders Pilots" Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 10:35 AM Subject: KR> PayPal > Netters, > > Can any of you guys explain to me how PayPal works and how to use > it. > > > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > > rstone4@hot.rr.com > _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html . ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:33:14 +0200 From: "Dene Collett \(SA\)" Subject: KR> ply scarfs To: "krnet" Message-ID: <000201c4a4cd$9b3f89e0$37e5fea9@telkomsa127179> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi gang After cutting my ply strips for the spar webs, I found that I had cut two strips too many for thr rear outer spars leaving me short of one skin for one of the forward outer spars. After sifting through all my offcuts I found that I could make up the web from three seperate offcuts. Would this be acceptable, my scarf joints are all 1:20. The spar would have had one scarf joint anyway due to the size of the ply sheets sold here. They will be situated at approx 25%, 40% and 90% of outboard spar span. Thanks Dene Collett KR2S-RT builder Port Elizabeth South Africa mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net P.S: checkout www.whisperaircraft.com ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:53:43 -0500 From: "Jim Faughn" Subject: RE: KR> Parade Flight at the Gathering To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c4a4e4$d739ba80$ced75540@jfaughn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have to say this was a lot of fun. I actually was selected to lead the parade which was to be single file, however, Richard (KR-1) was on my left wing, Steve was on my right wing, Marti decided to parallel Steve off of Steve's right wing and I guess the rest followed in flight. The interesting part was what we had to MISS. We came across the parade at a 90 degree angle missing a tower to the north. The people on the ground thought, according to a person at the parade, that that pass was the end. However, I went on east and made a gentle turn north, then a gentle turn west and then another gentle turn south lining up on the parade route just like we were on final. About half way through the parade we had to miss a tower on our right and a flag pole on top of a building on our left. I was calling these out and the rest of the pack did a great job of listening instead of talking. We went right down the parade route about 500' agl and it was pretty cool. When we got back to home, we separated out with better separation and then made passes for the video. I only wish we would have made the pass over the airport back at Mt Vernon before we did the video shoot. Oh well, that will be for next year. Word has it that the solo performer, Marti, went back and provided a little closer look at his plane for the crowd. I'm sure he was at 50 0 agl...... Right! Great Gathering, Great Reunion, Great Planes, Great Weather, Great Flying, and Great Friends. Hope to see everyone next year with 30 planes and 250 people. Jim Faughn 891JF -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+jfaughn=socket.net@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+jfaughn=socket.net@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Brant Hollensbe Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:35 PM To: 'KRnet' Subject: KR> Parade Flight at the Gathering Here is a fun tidbit for those that missed the KR Gathering. Last Saturday there was a parade down Main Street of Wayne City Ill., 25 miles east of the KR Gathering. It seems that 9 airplanes decided to join that parade with a single file high speed pass. The local onlookers loved it!!! Brant Hollensbe Bhollensbe@mchsi.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:09:01 -0400 From: "Dean Cooper" Subject: Re: KR> ply scarfs To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <01af01c4a4e6$fdb8b330$0502a8c0@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dene wrote: >Would this be acceptable, my scarf joints are all 1:20 Dene, If the scarf joint is properly done, the joint will be stronger than the plywood itself so it shouldn't be a problem. Good luck. Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_cooper@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:05:54 -0500 From: "Mike" Subject: KR> First Impressions To: Message-ID: <006301c4a4f0$3d1a3310$6501a8c0@homew128wnyjam> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, I flew almost 3 hours to see what the "gathering" was all about and the first time I ever saw a KR in flight was from about 3500ft on descent to TPA into MVN on saturday. I see a formation of small planes on my 9 moving quickly across the sky below me. HOLY SMOKES THE ARE FAST! ! ! ! ! ! I was only there for about 4 hours but, I found out a few things, I gotta have a Todd's canopy and sell my dragonfly, and I KNOW I wont even taxi without I get some flight instruction. For anyone who missed the gathering and hasnt seen a KR inflight, in person, THEY ARE AWESOME ! ! ! ! ! ! I havent had goose bumps like that since the airshow a few years ago. If you are building a KR YOU HAVE TO SEE ONE FLY! ! ! I can tell you but until you see it you wont understand. Mike KR2s ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:43:53 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> AOL user problem To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <014701c4a4fc$9cbbbe40$2402a8c0@800Athlon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Eight AOL users got automatically unsubscribed today for "excessive bounces". Apparently AOL is having some sort of problem. I resubscribed those eight, so when you see that you were unsubscribed don't blame me, all I did is put you back on. You will need to make any changes to your account that you prefer by visiting http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet . Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:25:11 -0500 From: "The Weber's" Subject: Re: KR> strobes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000f01c4a502$629eabe0$58cab4d8@hppav> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The strobes I used came from Wicks. But for the strobes and power unit the cost was about $700 Joe Weber ----- Original Message ----- From: "F Ross" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:54 AM Subject: Re: KR> strobes > John, > Joe Weber had his really nice, just completed KR at > the Gathering and he has some good strobes which, I > think, he said were easy to get and fairly > inexpensive. Maybe he'll put in a word or so when he > gets home and throws a log or two on his computer. > Good to see you on the net again. > Hope everything's well with you and yours. > Frank > --- John Esch wrote: > > > All > > Of the majority of KR builders, which strobe system > > are people using? > > I have found on Ebay a ground vehicle strobe system > > and was wondering if it could be used for aircraft. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3931804307&fromMakeTrack=true > > > > Would this be a system worth looking into or at > > least for the strobes? > > > > John Esch > > KR-2SSW > > Independence, OR (7S5) > > > ===== > Frank Ross, > EAA Chapter 35, > San Geronimo, TX > RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK > Visit my photo album at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 > > > > _______________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! > http://vote.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 22:49:11 EDT From: Bdazzcamro@aol.com Subject: KR> William Wynnes Book To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <194.2df0eaef.2e8a2b27@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Group, Does anyone have a number or site on how to get William Wynnes Book on the corvair? I had been told that a '64 block would work but it has different cylinders. Is that a bad thing? Should I find a different block to go with? Let me know. David Bdazzcamro@aol.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 138 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================