From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 146 Date: 10/3/2004 8:59:28 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: IVO Prop closure (Ray Fuenzalida) 2. Gathering cash flow report (larry flesner) 3. ivo props in the archives (Flymaca711689@aol.com) 4. Re: ivo props in the archives (David Mikesell) 5. Spruce order (John Bavington) 6. Re: Spruce order (Boeing757mech1@aol.com) 7. Re: Spruce order (Dean Cooper) 8. Re: Spruce order (John Bavington) 9. Re: ivo props in the archives (JEHayward@aol.com) 10. O-200 lean cylinder (Brian Kraut) 11. Re: Props. Warp Drive V Wood (Phillip Matheson) 12. Re: Spruce order (GavinandLouise) 13. KR Gathering photos (Jack Cooper) 14. Attn John Bavington (GavinandLouise) 15. Re: O-200 lean cylinder (jscott.pilot@juno.com) 16. Re: Spruce order (Phillip Matheson) 17. Re: Attn John Bavington (John Bavington) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 21:13:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Fuenzalida Subject: Re: KR> IVO Prop closure To: KRnet Message-ID: <20041003041308.64864.qmail@web42004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for the warning. The beauty of the KRnet is that we don't always have to reinvent the wheel. Your experience is duly noted and will be a part of mine (and probably everyone's) future planning. Ray --- Orma wrote: > Hello Net > This is an update to the chapter of my experiences > called IVO Prop. After contacting their E-mail, a > reply came that points the finger back at me. They essentially stated > that I could not detect the blade movement in a timely manner because > I used the wrong size and material detection tape. I have placed a > few notes on my web page > http://kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/AlertIVOProp.htm > and posted pictures of the prop. I have removed IVO > from the links on my page and no longer feel that > they can be used safely by anyone. A requirement to > check the blade for movement prior to each flight is > just too much. > > As for the KR, Tweety is back flying with the old > Sturba, and I am trying to get used to the > differences. As stated before, it is a lot smoother > and makes a lot less noise. I have listened to my > engine with a stethoscope and could only detect the > chatter of two noisy intake valves which need to be > re-set to a smaller tappet clearance. I have not > tried to find out what full speed is. I have been > using boost on takeoff and feel the engine is > running well. > > Orma > Southfield, MI > N110LR celebrating 20 years > Flying, flying and more flying _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:09:49 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Gathering cash flow report To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20041003070949.007df100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to Bob Lee, the cash flow report for the Gathering is now available on the Gathering web page next to the picture of the hat or go direct to: http://www.krgathering.org/cash-flow-report.htm Thanks Bob........... Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 17:27:26 EDT From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: KR> ivo props in the archives To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <12b.4d0af6f2.2e91c8be@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" This prop is junk and has no place on a Kr or any aircraft. If you go to the archives Mike mims recommends the trash or if you just got one get your money back. Every ultralight that I have flown that had one vibrated and crack the first 50 hrs and crankshaft problems with any engine you hang it on. mac n1055a ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 15:35:22 -0700 From: "David Mikesell" Subject: Re: KR> ivo props in the archives To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000501c4a999$459e28e0$6401a8c0@davids> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Usually I don't say much here since I have not started my KR2S yet but I have serveral hundred hours behind IVO's on ultralights and 200+ hrs infront of IVO's on gyrocopters and have not had one fail or vibrate and break yet. True for 4 strokes it is a bad choice, for my next gyro with a geo on it I will use something else but IVO's are not junk just not for 4 strokes. David Mikesell 23597 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-609-8774 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 2:27 PM Subject: KR> ivo props in the archives > This prop is junk and has no place on a Kr or any aircraft. If you go > to the > archives Mike mims recommends the trash or if you just got one get > your money back. Every ultralight that I have flown that had one > vibrated and crack > the first 50 hrs and crankshaft problems with any engine you hang it > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > mac n1055a > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:19:47 +1000 From: John Bavington Subject: KR> Spruce order To: KRnet Message-ID: <830558f90410031619de1b4fb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi All, After having recieved the plans, and after reading the manual through - twice - I still can't find a breakdown of what timber is required. I am hoping to order it through an Australian supplier, but can't work out exactly what I neeed to get. Does such a list exist? If so: where? I'm really hoping there will be much derisive laughter and everyone will jump on the net and say "It's on page ___!" All I have been able to find is ordering info from RR, not a list of exactly what is in eack part of the kit. Thanks, John. http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:53:30 +0000 From: Boeing757mech1@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Spruce order To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1B48DCA7.3DFF6705.83FC6405@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 There should have been a list with your plans. If not give me you address and I will mail you a copy if I can find it. Are you building a KR2 or a 2s? Chris Theroux Gilbert, AZ ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:56:55 -0400 From: "Dean Cooper" Subject: Re: KR> Spruce order To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <03cc01c4a9a4$a9f2aa40$0502a8c0@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" John wrote: > After having recieved the plans, and after reading the manual through > - twice - I still can't find a breakdown of what timber is required. John, Here is what I found in last years Wicks catalog. The new catalog I got at the gathering didn't have the breakout. I think this is what you were looking for. Sorry for the quality of the scan (It's hard scanning from a book). It's a pdf doc (adobe reader required), so you can save it to your local machine once you pull it up. Good luck. http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Parts_List.pdf Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_cooper@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:02:19 +1000 From: John Bavington Subject: Re: KR> Spruce order To: KRnet Message-ID: <830558f904100317021a553b2c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Chris, I'm building a KR2S. As I'm the second owner of the project it is possiblr that the list was lost along the way, or sent to a supplier for a quote. Email address is bavington at gmail.com Thanks, John. On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:56:55 -0400, Dean Cooper wrote: > John wrote: > > After having recieved the plans, and after reading the manual > > through - > twice - I still can't find a breakdown of what timber is required. > > John, > > Here is what I found in last years Wicks catalog. The new catalog I > got at the gathering didn't have the breakout. I think this is what > you were looking for. Sorry for the quality of the scan (It's hard > scanning from a book). It's a pdf doc (adobe reader required), so you > can save it to your local machine once you pull it up. Good luck. > > http://www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/Parts_List.pdf > > > Dean Cooper > Jacksonville, FL > Email me at dean_cooper@bellsouth.net > See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 21:17:00 EDT From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> ivo props in the archives To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <85.17971208.2e91fe8c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 10/3/04 4:42:18 PM Mountain Daylight Time, skyguynca@skyguynca.com writes: << True for 4 strokes it is a bad choice, for my next gyro with a geo on it I will use something else but IVO's are not junk just not for 4 strokes. >> They don't do well on our Challenger ultralights and are similarly thought of as bad news. Jim H. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:06:28 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> O-200 lean cylinder To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I need to choose which cylinder to put the EGT on an O-200A. I know that a the EGT should go on the leanest cylinder and on a lot models of engines the lean cylinder is usually the same on all of them. Does the O-200 have one that normally runs leaner? Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 12:21:36 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Props. Warp Drive V Wood To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008201c4a9b9$600d6130$16b1dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Orma. Hope you have fixed your prop problems. Lets hope the crank did not suffer. VW engines Australia say NOT to run anything other than Wood props on their older design direct drive engines, I may be wrong , but I understand that Great Plains say the same thing. I think I heard that warp drive type props should only be run on geared engines.???????????? Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:30:46 +1000 From: "GavinandLouise" Subject: Re: KR> Spruce order To: "John Bavington" , "KRnet" Message-ID: <001501c4a9c2$89935420$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I didn't get a list with mine either John. Gav ----- Original Message ----- , > I'm building a KR2S. > As I'm the second owner of the project it is possiblr that the list > was lost along the way, or sent to a ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:31:10 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: KR> KR Gathering photos To: "KR builders and pilots" , "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" Message-ID: <410-2200410143311073@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I have just posted my Gathering photos to my website. If interested they can be viewed at http://jackandsandycooper.com/2004gathering.html Warning--- not all photos are of KRs. Also some photos are slightly blurred, I think I had some moisture on the lens. Jack Cooper kr2cooper@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:39:30 +1000 From: "GavinandLouise" Subject: KR> Attn John Bavington To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <00a701c4a9c3$c1ed7ca0$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Sorry all this is for John Bavington, John all my messaged to your e-mail address bounce right back at me !!! Have you another address? Gav ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 21:39:24 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Subject: Re: KR> O-200 lean cylinder To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041003.213932.1076.1.jscott.pilot@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:06:28 -0400 "Brian Kraut" writes: > I need to choose which cylinder to put the EGT on an O-200A. I know that a > the EGT should go on the leanest cylinder and on a lot models of engines the > lean cylinder is usually the same on all of them. Does the O-200 > have one > that normally runs leaner? > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com #2 has the hottest EGT on mine, but they seem to run so evenly that they all react the same to minor changes in mxture or throttle. The main difference in mine is related to not quite equal distances from the exhaust ports of my probes due to design limitations in my exhaust. Jeff Scott ________________________________________________________________ Get your name as your email address. Includes spam protection, 1GB storage, no ads and more Only $1.99/ month - visit http://www.mysite.com/name today! ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:49:43 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Spruce order To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00d801c4a9c5$2fbaf6d0$16b1dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Gav Send me a fax Number and I'll send it to you also see new email Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:49:05 +1000 From: John Bavington Subject: Re: KR> Attn John Bavington To: KRnet Message-ID: <830558f90410032049d1fb0eb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Gav, don't know what happened. Try my work address... john.bavington@airservicesaustralia.com Thank On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 13:39:30 +1000, GavinandLouise wrote: > Sorry all this is for John Bavington, > John all my messaged to your e-mail address bounce right back at me > !!! Have you another address? > > Gav > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 146 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================