From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 177 Date: 10/24/2004 8:25:11 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Eduardo's plane & website (F Ross) 2. 56ML Rudder Pedals (Stephen Jacobs) 3. Re: New addition (F Ross) 4. RE: Eduardo's plane & website (Stephen Jacobs) 5. Aircraft hardware (Serge VIDAL) 6. Re: 56ML Rudder Pedals (Mark Langford) 7. Re: KR2 Parts For Sale (RENOSADLER@aol.com) 8. Re: Eduardo's plane & website (Mark Langford) 9. KR2 for sale (SkyVisionSC@aol.com) 10. Re: Eduardo's plane & website (JAMES FERRIS) 11. Re: KR spar (Brant Hollensbe) 12. Re: Re: KR spar (JAMES FERRIS) 13. KR2 PART FOR SALE (Vicki Davis) 14. Re: KR2 PART FOR SALE (RENOSADLER@aol.com) 15. Translator (Eric J Pitts) 16. Re: Translator (Bavo) 17. Re: Translator (Mark Jones) 18. Re: Translator (robert glidden) 19. Friend in Monticello? (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 20. Re: Translator (Eric J Pitts) 21. Re: KR2 PART FOR SALE (Lee Van Dyke) 22. Yeeeee Haaaa (Brian Kraut) 23. Ellison EFS2 running lean (Tommy Waymack) 24. Re: KR2 PART FOR SALE (SkyVisionSC@aol.com) 25. Re: KR2 Parts For Sale (Douglas Dorfmeier) 26. First Flight (Colin & Bev Rainey) 27. Re: First Flight (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:36:54 -0700 (PDT) From: F Ross Subject: KR> Eduardo's plane & website To: KRnet Message-ID: <20041024073654.72153.qmail@web40903.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Steve, A visit to Eduardo's website is worth the time. http://www.kr2-egb.com.ar/ He is building an amazing plane. Exceptionally nice website too. I can see why you get so excited about it. Frank ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:39:48 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: KR> 56ML Rudder Pedals To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000201c4b99c$a7f5ff50$6664a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Morning Mark I guess you are into the sort strokes right now, so stay focussed and make plenty to-do-lists - don't rely on memory for anything. When you have a spare moment; >From your rudder pedal construction page: Quote - The angle which serves as half of the pivot was bonded to the back of the pedal with some incredible stuff sold by Tra-Bond. Mark Lougheed sent me a sample, and it's tenacious stuff similar to JB Weld. Saved a few ounces on bolts and nuts here! - unquote. You have three small holes drawn in on the outer pivot and pedal but from the above it would appear that you are satisfied with the bond alone - no fasteners? Thanks for the .pdf - this is exactly what I will do including the improved brake pedal retainer idea. I will however splash out on six 4-40 countersunk bolts and nuts. On your engine page you discuss areas where you could have saved weight (the 20-20 hindsight thing) reduction - I was surprised at how much could be safely trimmed - very encouraging. I plan to use the 18%/15% wing section in precisely the manner you would have preferred (bent spars) except that I intend to move the WAF's outboard to the flap /ail intersection. I understand that you switched from RAF48 to the 15% NLF(1) and then to the AS5046 and this resulted in a wing spar of unnecessary proportions - what would you do if you (when you) do another wing (in terms of laminated cap dimensions?) It is understood and accepted that my results may vary. Good luck. Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:45:39 -0700 (PDT) From: F Ross Subject: Re: KR> New addition To: KRnet Message-ID: <20041024074539.39552.qmail@web40908.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Colin, Congratulations! Looking forward to seeing your plane! Frank Do not archive --- Colin & Bev Rainey wrote: > Netters, > > We want to express our sincere appreciation for all > who have contributed to today, and we are proud to > anounce the arrival of another new KR2 to the > family: > > N96TA has a pink Special Airworthiness as of > today!!!!!! > She is 654#, standard size and > dressed all in white. > Momma and Daddy are doing fine! > > Colin & Bev Rainey > KR2(td) N96TA > Sanford, FL > crainey1@cfl.rr.com > http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:57:13 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Eduardo's plane & website To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000301c4b99f$193c7e30$6664a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A visit to Eduardo's website is worth the time. http://www.kr2-egb.com.ar/ He is building an amazing plane. Exceptionally nice website too. I can see why you get so excited about it. ++++++++++++++ I tell ya Frank - if I could just get my mind around this dissimilar stiffness thing. According to at least one reputable composite guy, this is a problem. I am sure there is an answer /solution, but in the mean while it really worries me. Imagine a 2S with the popular stretch in length and width; fuselage constructed in the Eduardo style; incorporating Flink Dinks' DAISNAID laminated, bent wing and a Vair with 120 ponies. Isssssshh man, the ultimate KR Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:24:30 +0200 From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: KR> Aircraft hardware To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Two quick questions: 1 - Would anyone have a list of the nuts and bolts required for the WAFs? 2 - Which is the best source of aircraft nuts and bolts? Wicks or Aircraft Spruce? Serge Vidal Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:59:27 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> 56ML Rudder Pedals To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <016101c4b9da$0f06ced0$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Stephen Jacobs wrote: > You have three small holes drawn in on the outer pivot and pedal but > from the above it would appear that you are satisfied with the bond > alone - no fasteners? Yes, I was going to screw or rivet that connection, but I'm convinced that the epoxy will do just fine, so I left it that way. > I plan to use the 18%/15% wing section in precisely the manner you > would have preferred (bent spars) except that I intend to move the > WAF's outboard to the flap /ail intersection. I understand that you > switched from RAF48 to the 15% NLF(1) and then to the AS5046 and this > resulted in a wing spar of unnecessary proportions - what would you do > if you (when > you) do another wing (in terms of laminated cap dimensions?) I'm too lazy to drag out all my old books and try to remember the fairly simple method for determining the spar cap dimensions, but I would think you couldn't go wrong by using the same 2" thickness that the plans call for, tapering smoothly (starting just outside the fuselage) to something like 3/8" at the tips. Of course if you move the WAFs out, you have to make sure you have enough material for them, which might explain why the plans show the spar caps on the center spar are the same height all the way to the WAFs. You might even need a different kind of WAF, but the good news would be that the further out they are, the less load they have to carry. ANC-18 (Design of Wood Aircraft Structures) would probably help, and I'm sure there are other good sources of WAF design data. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:04:53 EDT From: RENOSADLER@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 Parts For Sale To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <149.369cfad1.2ead1e95@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Would the cowling fit a kr1 ? also your pre moulded fuel tank is that the top dec aft of firewall? ya got any wings? let me krnow RENOSADLER@aok,com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:21:17 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Eduardo's plane & website To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <016f01c4b9dd$1be43c70$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > I tell ya Frank - if I could just get my mind around this dissimilar > stiffness thing. According to at least one reputable composite guy, > this is a problem. I am sure there is an answer /solution, but in the > mean while it really worries me. I'm not sure exactly what the previous paragraph is about, but I do remember the subject of carbon fiber in spars came up a few weeks ago, and it says something to the WAF question asked earlier. >From AN-18, paragraph 4.82, Behavior of Dissimilar Materials Working Together: "When materials of different rigidities, such as normal wood, compreg, or metal fittings, are fastened together for a considerable distance and are under high stress, consideration should be given to the fact that the fastening causes the total deformation of all materials to be the same. A typical example is a long metal strap bolted to a wood spar flange for the purpose of taking the load at the wing joint. In order that the load be uniformly distributed among the bolts, the ratio of the stress to the modulus of elacticity should be the same for both materials at every point. This may be approximated in practical structures by tapering the straps and the wood in a such a manner that the average stress in each (over the length of the fastening) divided by its modulus of elasticity gives the same ratio." Of course, fastened joint design is also a large consideration in the case of WAFs. I am certainly not an expert on this sort of thing, but I'm sure the information is out there somewhere if somebody wants to do the homework. I probably even have that sort of thing in my personal collection of aircraft design stuff, but right now I want to finish up my plane. The time for design and testing is long over for THIS airplane...I just need to get N56ML flying. Yesterday I finished up the tailwheel and rudder cables, and will do shoulder belts today. The seat is now lowered, and canopy latches are in the works, so my list of excuses is on the decline. My list of 30 things that needed to be done is now down to "only" 24, so there's still a ways to go, but things should be slowing down a little at work soon, so maybe I'll actually get to finish it soon. I should be very close to taxiing around the neighborhood, and blowing the leaves out of the yard... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:38:35 EDT From: SkyVisionSC@aol.com Subject: KR> KR2 for sale To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" full IFR equipped kr2. Revmaster 2100 turbo. Needs only left wing completed to return to flying. Have both spars finished. (old wing got water inside and ruined it) right wing is good. Sherman at (864)-585-3327 or e-mail at Skyvisionsc@aol.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:27:31 -0400 From: JAMES FERRIS Subject: Re: KR> Eduardo's plane & website To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041024.132731.1524.0.mijnil@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you guys have the materials? Why don't you just build a copuple of test specimans and load them to destruction to see if there is any difference in the load at failure. Jim On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:21:17 -0500 "Mark Langford" writes: > > I tell ya Frank - if I could just get my mind around this > dissimilar > > stiffness thing. According to at least one reputable composite > guy, > > this is a problem. I am sure there is an answer /solution, but in > the > > mean while it really worries me. > > I'm not sure exactly what the previous paragraph is about, but I do > remember > the subject of carbon fiber in spars came up a few weeks ago, and it > says > something to the WAF question asked earlier. > > >From AN-18, paragraph 4.82, Behavior of Dissimilar Materials > Working > Together: > "When materials of different rigidities, such as normal wood, > compreg, or > metal fittings, are fastened together for a considerable distance > and are > under high stress, consideration should be given to the fact that > the > fastening causes the total deformation of all materials to be the > same. A > typical example is a long metal strap bolted to a wood spar flange > for the > purpose of taking the load at the wing joint. In order that the > load be > uniformly distributed among the bolts, the ratio of the stress to > the > modulus of elacticity should be the same for both materials at every > point. > This may be approximated in practical structures by tapering the > straps and > the wood in a such a manner that the average stress in each (over > the length > of the fastening) divided by its modulus of elasticity gives the > same > ratio." > > Of course, fastened joint design is also a large consideration in > the case > of WAFs. I am certainly not an expert on this sort of thing, but > I'm sure > the information is out there somewhere if somebody wants to do the > homework. > I probably even have that sort of thing in my personal collection > of > aircraft design stuff, but right now I want to finish up my plane. > The time > for design and testing is long over for THIS airplane...I just need > to get > N56ML flying. Yesterday I finished up the tailwheel and rudder > cables, and > will do shoulder belts today. The seat is now lowered, and canopy > latches > are in the works, so my list of excuses is on the decline. My list > of 30 > things that needed to be done is now down to "only" 24, so there's > still a > ways to go, but things should be slowing down a little at work soon, > so > maybe I'll actually get to finish it soon. I should be very close > to > taxiing around the neighborhood, and blowing the leaves out of the > yard... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:44:01 -0500 From: "Brant Hollensbe" Subject: KR> Re: KR spar To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002201c4b9f1$0c85aac0$0702a8c0@bruntson> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Jim I think you missed Marks point. It is not that he too lazy to design a new spar for some other guy. Heck just look at his web site to see what he has done for us. Instead he is busy with his own project and his spars are done. If you or anyone else wants to undertake a redesign of the spar, go at it. Mark was good enough to point you in the right direction. Brant Hollensbe bhollensbe@mchsi.com DSM Ia. you guys have the materials? Why don't you just build a copuple of > test specimans and load them to destruction to see if there is any > difference in the load at failure. Jim > On Sun, 24 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:56:04 -0400 From: JAMES FERRIS Subject: Re: KR> Re: KR spar To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041024.135604.1524.1.mijnil@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was not referring to the spars, I think he has done real well on that, I was thinking of the foam and glass on the fuselage replaceing the plywood it would be a simple test if someone has all the materials. Jim On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:44:01 -0500 "Brant Hollensbe" writes: > Jim > I think you missed Marks point. It is not that he too lazy to > design a new > spar for some other guy. Heck just look at his web site to see what > he has > done for us. Instead he is busy with his own project and his spars > are done. > If you or anyone else wants to undertake a redesign of the spar, go > at it. > Mark was good enough to point you in the right direction. > > Brant Hollensbe > bhollensbe@mchsi.com > DSM Ia. > > > you guys have the materials? Why don't you just build a copuple of > > test specimans and load them to destruction to see if there is > any > > difference in the load at failure. > > Jim > > On Sun, 24 > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:23:43 -0500 From: Vicki Davis Subject: KR> KR2 PART FOR SALE To: KRnet Message-ID: <417C013F.4000909@ev1.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED ? Joe Davis ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:02:49 EDT From: RENOSADLER@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 PART FOR SALE To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1dd.2ef6ebc0.2ead8e99@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Joe i'm in reno nv ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:04:58 -0500 From: Eric J Pitts Subject: KR> Translator To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041024.190459.-127091459.0.thepittses@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Where does one find the software for translating WEB pages? Eric Pitts Indiana ________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:16:18 +1000 From: Bavo Subject: Re: KR> Translator To: KRnet Message-ID: <830558f90410241716608f8de5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Translate what into what? Language? http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr HTML code? www.coffeecup.com > Where does one find the software for translating WEB pages? > http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:22:36 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Translator To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003801c4ba28$bf5fc7c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here ya go.... http://babelfish.altavista.com/ Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric J Pitts" To: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:04 PM Subject: KR> Translator > Where does one find the software for translating WEB pages? > > Eric Pitts > Indiana > > ________________________________________________________________ > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. > Now includes pop-up blocker! > Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:22:00 -0500 From: "robert glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Translator To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004101c4ba28$a58c25a0$0c00000a@computer2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What??????????????????????????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric J Pitts" To: Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 7:04 PM Subject: KR> Translator > Where does one find the software for translating WEB pages? > > Eric Pitts > Indiana > > ________________________________________________________________ > Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. > Now includes pop-up blocker! > Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:30:38 EDT From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: KR> Friend in Monticello? To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am looking for a KR builder in Monticello Florida that Has borrowed my Smart Level and is working on a corvair engine for it. I have seemed to misplaced his phone number. If anybody knows who this might be ( i though his name was Jerry Howard but may be wrong ) please let me know on the web - Thanks. Bill Clapp ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:28:16 -0500 From: Eric J Pitts Subject: Re: KR> Translator To: bavington@gmail.com,krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041024.192817.-127077295.0.thepittses@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Thanks for the replys, right after I sent the message I found the babelfish site. Trying to figure out Eduardo's site!!! Just love his flap setup. Eric Pitts Indiana On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:16:18 +1000 Bavo writes: > Translate what into what? > Language? http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr > HTML code? www.coffeecup.com > > > > Where does one find the software for translating WEB pages? > > > > > http://au.geocities.com/johnbavington > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:33:12 -0700 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 PART FOR SALE To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001d01c4ba2a$8b4b09c0$6501a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" phoenix AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki Davis" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 12:23 PM Subject: KR> KR2 PART FOR SALE > WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED ? Joe Davis > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 20:39:02 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> Yeeeee Haaaa To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I won't jump in on someone else's good news, but everyone keep a big yeee haaa on standby! Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 21:03:52 -0500 From: "Tommy Waymack" Subject: KR> Ellison EFS2 running lean To: Message-ID: <000801c4ba36$e0848cc0$6800a8c0@blindate> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hate asking for directions,guy thing,but I did go on the Ellison website and after a reasonable amount of tweeking, have decided the krnet maybe my last hope.The mixture is lean in the midrange,from cruise [3000 rpm]to 2400 rpm.Full throttle and below 2400 the mixture is rich enough to yeild 100 degrees lower egt.No amount of intake configuration seems to have any effect.Any body have ideas?Tommy W. ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:23:40 EDT From: SkyVisionSC@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 PART FOR SALE To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <19f.2b0c1ae0.2eadbdac@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The KR2 for sale is located in Spartanburg, S.C. Thanks...Sherman ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 19:34:01 -0700 From: "Douglas Dorfmeier" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 Parts For Sale To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The cowling was designed for the revmaster engine. I do not know if it would fit a KR1. I would suggest calling Rand Robinson and ask them. The premolded fuel tank is for the top deck aft of the firewall. You should also check with Rand Robinson to see if it would fit in a KR1. >From: RENOSADLER@aol.com >Reply-To: KRnet >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: Re: KR> KR2 Parts For Sale >Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:04:53 EDT > >Would the cowling fit a kr1 ? also your pre moulded fuel tank is that the >top dec aft of firewall? ya got any wings? let me krnow RENOSADLER@aok,com >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:02:34 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> First Flight To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00b801c4ba3f$160663c0$2d432141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Gentlemen & Ladies of the KRNET I am proud to anounce that N96TA successfully completed her first flight at KSFB at approximately 1730 hours today ( 5:30pm). The plane did great as far as flight controls, no over control problems with elevator, and engine ran great. 2 successive high speed taxi tests resulted in very positive feel, and lift off/touchdown in ground effect showed very positive feel, very stable. Climb out was slow due to primary ignition system failure, but Slick Magneto provided enough power for a 300-400fpm climb, but the amazing part was the speed in downwind! WOW! When I leveled out the midfield call to the tower disappeared. I was at the numbers before I knew it! The speed brake worked great! If you have an original KR and you don't have flaps or belly board, get at least a belly board. I started worrying I wouldn't slow down until I pulled the brake on in base leg, and then Holey %^&&, man did it slow down! I applied 25degrees on base and the nose dropped and speed adjusted just like I wanted, then final and 50 degrees and the plane came down as if on rails straight to the numbers as good as any plane I have flown! I have flown 26 models of aircraft and our KR2 is one of the few that did EXACTLY what you tell it to do with the controls! And this all without the benefit of an airspeed indicator. It malfunctioned and was reading 200MPH on final! Sooooo, I know it needs replacing, must have went bad during the wait for the FAA (wonder if I could send them the bill ). YEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAAA............ Dang it feels good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Southeastern Flyin and Sun n' Fun here we come! Again, Thank you all, Dan Heath, Mark J, Mark L, Dean Cooper, Brian Kraut, Larry Flesner, Jim Ferris for helping move it, and all the other netters ( if I left anybody out sorry ) that have assisted in getting to this point. Keep building, its worth the payoff!!!!! Dang I'm exhausted......hahahaha..... Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:29:05 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> First Flight To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00dc01c4ba42$cc343d40$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Excellent news on the first flight. I hope to be joining the elite group of KR Pilots sometime in November. I finished my right wing yesterday and only have about a weeks worth of work to finish my left wing then its inspection time. I can't wait till can honestly yell YEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!! Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: KR> First Flight > Gentlemen & Ladies of the KRNET > > I am proud to anounce that N96TA successfully completed her first flight at KSFB at approximately 1730 hours today ( 5:30pm). The plane did great as far as flight controls, no over control problems with elevator, and engine ran great. 2 successive high speed taxi tests resulted in very positive feel, and lift off/touchdown in ground effect showed very positive feel, very stable. Climb out was slow due to primary ignition system failure, but Slick Magneto provided enough power for a 300-400fpm climb, but the amazing part was the speed in downwind! WOW! When I leveled out the midfield call to the tower disappeared. I was at the numbers before I knew it! The speed brake worked great! If you have an original KR and you don't have flaps or belly board, get at least a belly board. I started worrying I wouldn't slow down until I pulled the brake on in base leg, and then Holey %^&&, man did it slow down! I applied 25degrees on base and the nose dropped and speed adjusted j! > ust like I wanted, then final and 50 degrees and the plane came down as if on rails straight to the numbers as good as any plane I have flown! I have flown 26 models of aircraft and our KR2 is one of the few that did EXACTLY what you tell it to do with the controls! And this all without the benefit of an airspeed indicator. It malfunctioned and was reading 200MPH on final! Sooooo, I know it needs replacing, must have went bad during the wait for the FAA (wonder if I could send them the bill ). > > YEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAAA............ Dang it feels good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Southeastern Flyin and Sun n' Fun here we come! > > Again, Thank you all, Dan Heath, Mark J, Mark L, Dean Cooper, Brian Kraut, Larry Flesner, Jim Ferris for helping move it, and all the other netters ( if I left anybody out sorry ) that have assisted in getting to this point. > > Keep building, its worth the payoff!!!!! > > Dang I'm exhausted......hahahaha..... > > Colin & Bev Rainey > KR2(td) N96TA > Sanford, FL > crainey1@cfl.rr.com > http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 177 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================