From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 179 Date: 10/26/2004 4:43:38 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. FW: KR> KR2 Parts For Sale (Douglas Dorfmeier) 2. EAA SW Regional Fly-in New Location (F Ross) 3. RE: HS Weight (Stephen Jacobs) 4. First Flight (JIM VANCE) 5. KR 2 plans on EBAY (w.higdon9604@comcast.net) 6. Mylar Gap Seals (Mark Jones) 7. Re: Mylar Gap Seals (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) 8. RE: HS Weight (Matthew Elder) 9. R?f. : KR> Mylar Gap Seals (Serge VIDAL) 10. Re: Mylar Gap Seals (Ron Butterfield) 11. KR 1 cowling (Ray Lang) 12. RE: Mylar Gap Seals (Jack Cooper) 13. Re: Mylar Gap Seals (jscott.pilot@juno.com) 14. Re: Mylar Gap Seals (Allen Wiesner ) 15. Mylar Gap Seals REVISED (Mark Jones) 16. WAFS, rear spar, bolts (Serge VIDAL) 17. Re: Mylar Gap Seals REVISED (David Mullins) 18. Re: First Flight (Phil Matheson) 19. Re: Mylar Gap Seals / idea - question (Phil Matheson) 20. specs (joe) 21. HVLP (Dene Collett (SA)) 22. Re: Mylar Gap Seals / idea - question (Dan Heath) 23. Re: EAA SW Regional Fly-in New Location (Steelef@aol.com) 24. Re: Mylar Gap Seals (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 25. specs / performance (larry flesner) 26. Gap Seals / idea - question (larry flesner) 27. Re: Gap Seals / idea - question (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:03:47 -0700 From: "Douglas Dorfmeier" Subject: FW: KR> KR2 Parts For Sale To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I am resending this because I received a question asking what items I had for sale. >From: "Douglas Dorfmeier" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> KR2 Parts For Sale >Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 12:35:24 -0700 > >I have the following KR2S parts for sale: Make an offer on any or all. >I will respond by 10/30 on all offers received. Buyer to pay shipping >costs. > >Premolded Top Deck Package (original price $2,860) >includes Turtledeck, Canopy Frame, Canopy, Forward Deck > >Premolded Cowl (Revmaster style) (original price $445) > >Premolded Fuel Tank (original price $410) > >Diehl Tri Gear Complsite Fixed Landing Gear - Mains (original price >$525) > >Nose Gear (original price $485) > >Nose Gear Wheel and Tire (original price $62.50) > >Cleveland Hydraulic Brakes Package (includes axles, cylinders, tires >and >tubes) (orig. price $1,390) > >Wheel Fairings (3) (original price $375) > >Aluminum Kit (original price $140) > >Cables and Pulleys (original price $86) > >Rudder Pedal Assembly ($176) > >Flap Handle (original price $90) > >Turnbuckle Kit (original price $195) > >Tail Surface Hinges (original price $225) > >Piano Hinge (original price $135) > >_________________________________________________________________ >Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter tools >and more! http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx > > >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:26:44 -0700 (PDT) From: F Ross Subject: KR> EAA SW Regional Fly-in New Location To: KRnet Message-ID: <20041026082644.49634.qmail@web40908.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Only 199 days until "The EAA Texas Fly-in". SWRFI has moved from New Braunfels to Hondo, Texas. Click on: http://www.swrfi.org/default.htm Remember to check on "Restricted" airspace when flying past Crawford. This is a good time for KR owners and pilots "in the neighborhood" to start making plans. You just won't find better Mexican and German food anywhere - and great Texas beer (Pearl, Lone Star)! And, if you get tired of looking at airplanes, you can go look at the Alamo... It's only about 25 miles east. Frank ===== Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:33:30 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> HS Weight To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000601c4bb47$49a10ce0$a464a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If anyone has the weight data, I would appreciate it. +++++++++++++++ Eduardo reports 6.2kg (13.64lbs) with a NACA 63a008 and the plans style hinges ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:52:22 -0500 From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: KR> First Flight To: "krnet" Message-ID: <004c01c4bb4a$99449840$0800a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Colin, Congratulations on a fine first flight. You made it sound almost routine. If I had had my airspeed indicator fail on my first flight, it have taken three crew chiefs to pull the seat cushion off my bottom. If you were a matador, the crowd would have awarded you both ears and the tail!! Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:30:47 +0000 From: w.higdon9604@comcast.net Subject: KR> KR 2 plans on EBAY To: KRnet Message-ID: <102620041130.15027.417E35670006498000003AB32200750330CBCFC0C702010B090708D299@comcast.net> If anyone needs a set of plans, check out this auction on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26441&item=2496338252&rd=1 Bill Higdon > Hi, i was looking at the Rand Robinson website for pricing information > and I > do not see a listing for the retractable gear extrusions. I want to build it > as a retract gear. Does RR still sell the parts for this option? > > Kandace > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:42:16 -0500 From: Mark Jones Subject: KR> Mylar Gap Seals To: KR Net Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC201902C43@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain Ever wanted to seal those gaps on your ailerons or even your rudder and horizontal stabilizer? Troy Petteway has proven performance can be greatly enhanced, especially your climb performance, if you close the gaps on the bottom of your ailerons. This is especially true on the new AS50xx airfoil. The best material we have found so far to do this with is Mylar strips. The Mylar has a thickness of .010 (10 mil) and is held on the wing with 3M #444 double sided tape. Here is the dilemma. So far I have only been able to locate the .010 Mylar in sheets 24" x 48" and the company that sells it has a $100 minimum. That means at $7.41 per sheet we would have to buy 14 sheets. That is a lot of gap sealing material. Solution: Group buy!!! Is anyone interested in going in on this with me and Mark Langford? I figure we could cut the sheets in strips four inches wide and that would give us 84 strips 48" long for a total 336 feet of 4" wide strips. Now there is no way two of us will ever use that much gap seal material so what do ya say... anybody else want in on this? If anyone else knows where we can buy this in lesser quantities or even in 4" wide rolls please speak up. So you ask, what is your cost? Depends on how many people want in on this. Ten folks, fifteen bucks each. Twenty people, ten bucks each. This includes shipping cost to you. You will receive enough Mylar to do your ailerons (four 4" x 48" strips). Additional strips available at additional cost. All of the Mylar that is left over will be donated to the Prop Bank and sold in the future to those that need it and those proceeds will be deposited in the Prop Bank funds. You will be responsible for getting your own double sided tape. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:50:00 -0500 From: Subject: Re: KR> Mylar Gap Seals To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000901c4bb5a$4eb4f7b0$d84e5844@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 7:42 AM Subject: KR> Mylar Gap Seals > Ever wanted to seal those gaps on your ailerons or even your rudder > and horizontal stabilizer? Troy Petteway has proven performance can be > greatly enhanced, especially your climb performance, if you close the > gaps on the bottom of your ailerons. This is especially true on the > new AS50xx airfoil. The best material we have found so far to do this > with is Mylar strips. The > Mylar has a thickness of .010 (10 mil) and is held on the wing with 3M > #444 > double sided tape. Here is the dilemma. So far I have only been able to > locate the .010 Mylar in sheets 24" x 48" and the company that sells it > has > a $100 minimum. That means at $7.41 per sheet we would have to buy 14 > sheets. That is a lot of gap sealing material. Solution: Group buy!!! Is > anyone interested in going in on this with me and Mark Langford? I figure > we > could cut the sheets in strips four inches wide and that would give us 84 > strips 48" long for a total 336 feet of 4" wide strips. Now there is no > way > two of us will ever use that much gap seal material so what do ya say... > anybody else want in on this? If anyone else knows where we can buy this > in > lesser quantities or even in 4" wide rolls please speak up. So you ask, > what > is your cost? Depends on how many people want in on this. Ten folks, > fifteen > bucks each. Twenty people, ten bucks each. This includes shipping cost to > you. You will receive enough Mylar to do your ailerons (four 4" x 48" > strips). Additional strips available at additional cost. All of the Mylar > that is left over will be donated to the Prop Bank and sold in the future > to > those that need it and those proceeds will be deposited in the Prop Bank > funds. You will be responsible for getting your own double sided tape. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 05:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Elder Subject: RE: KR> HS Weight To: KRnet Message-ID: <20041026125843.29425.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My HStab weighed in at 10 lbs with a NACA 0009 airfoil, and no balance weights yet. It's foam/spruce and glass construction (no carbon). It's for a KR-1 (sorta), but is significantly larger (0.75 sq. ft. on the planform) than the stock -1. I don't know how that compares to the KR-2/2S stab size, but it's probably close. Matt Stephen Jacobs wrote: If anyone has the weight data, I would appreciate it. +++++++++++++++ Eduardo reports 6.2kg (13.64lbs) with a NACA 63a008 and the plans style hinges _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------------------------- Matthew Elder Orangeburg, SC http://www.infinigral.com/melder ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:28:55 +0200 From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: R?f. : KR> Mylar Gap Seals To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mark, Count me in if you are ready to ship to France. Serge Vidal Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:47:30 -0400 From: Ron Butterfield Subject: Re: KR> Mylar Gap Seals To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.0.20041026101347.01dabcb8@pop.mebtel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Mark Jones wrote: > If anyone else knows where we can buy this in >lesser quantities or even in 4" wide rolls please speak up. This is untried, and I don't know if the cost per person is advantageous or not, but in the interest of diseminating information, here goes: McMaster-Carr has an ultra high molecular weight polyethylene tape (hereafter known as UHMW) available that might well work in this application. It is available in .0045", .0065", and .0115" thicknesses, of which .0015" is adhesive. This is a very tough, slippery material, and the adhesive appears to be durable. It is available in widths of 1/2", 3/4", 1", 2", 3" and 6" (not 4", unfortunately). http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?pagenum=3197 I've used it for a bearing surface here at work, where we have a very heavy sliding door; I put it on the guide rail and it doesn't show any wear or signs of coming off after 7 years. Will this work on a plane? I don't know. One hassle is that it has adhesive all the way across, and some way will have to be devised to keep it from binding on the aileron. If the thinner size is used, it could possibly be doubled on the half that is not meant to be stuck (kind of like a sideways J). Regards, RonB ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:05:17 -0400 From: Ray Lang Subject: KR> KR 1 cowling To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <6.0.2.0.0.20041026110328.01afe970@pop.nycap.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have a molded KR 1 cowling I bought a number of years ago, I believe I paid around $130. I'd have to look up where I got it from. Ray ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:51:20 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Mylar Gap Seals To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-2200410226155120656@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Mark You can count me in on a group buy of mylar. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Mark Jones > To: KR Net > Date: 10/26/2004 8:42:24 AM > Subject: KR> Mylar Gap Seals > > Ever wanted to seal those gaps on your ailerons or even your rudder > and horizontal stabilizer? Troy Petteway has proven performance can be > greatly enhanced, especially your climb performance, if you close the > gaps on the bottom of your ailerons. This is especially true on the > new AS50xx airfoil. > The best material we have found so far to do this with is Mylar > strips. The > Mylar has a thickness of .010 (10 mil) and is held on the wing with 3M #444 > double sided tape. Here is the dilemma. So far I have only been able > to locate the .010 Mylar in sheets 24" x 48" and the company that > sells it has > a $100 minimum. That means at $7.41 per sheet we would have to buy 14 > sheets. That is a lot of gap sealing material. Solution: Group buy!!! > Is anyone interested in going in on this with me and Mark Langford? I > figure we > could cut the sheets in strips four inches wide and that would give us > 84 strips 48" long for a total 336 feet of 4" wide strips. Now there > is no way > two of us will ever use that much gap seal material so what do ya > say... anybody else want in on this? If anyone else knows where we can > buy this in > lesser quantities or even in 4" wide rolls please speak up. So you > ask, what > is your cost? Depends on how many people want in on this. Ten folks, fifteen > bucks each. Twenty people, ten bucks each. This includes shipping cost > to you. You will receive enough Mylar to do your ailerons (four 4" x > 48" strips). Additional strips available at additional cost. All of > the Mylar that is left over will be donated to the Prop Bank and sold > in the future to > those that need it and those proceeds will be deposited in the Prop > Bank funds. You will be responsible for getting your own double sided > tape. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:54:44 GMT From: "jscott.pilot@juno.com" Subject: Re: KR> Mylar Gap Seals To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20041026.085539.16030.246399@webmail04.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain I won't argue that Troy saw an improvement in performance with the new wing, but I found no advantage to adding gap seals to the RAF 48 airfoil. Several years ago I tried the mylar film on my KR and carefully documented the performance with and without the gap seals. In short, I found that it added nothing to the climb performance and nothing to the speed. However, it did make the ailerons very heavy in flight. If you have the RAF 48 wing, I would advise that if you want to try this, do your test flying first without it, then add the film later. Check the archives for details from the testing. Jeff Scott -- Mark Jones wrote: Ever wanted to seal those gaps on your ailerons or even your rudder and horizontal stabilizer? Troy Petteway has proven performance can be greatly enhanced, especially your climb performance, if you close the gaps on the bottom of your ailerons. This is especially true on the new AS50xx airfoil. The best material we have found so far to do this with is Mylar strips. The Mylar has a thickness of .010 (10 mil) and is held on the wing with 3M #444 double sided tape. ________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:15:51 -0400 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: Re: KR> Mylar Gap Seals To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002e01c4bb77$10ba6590$0000a398@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Count me in for at least 1 and possibly 2 sets. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:42:43 -0500 From: Mark Jones Subject: KR> Mylar Gap Seals REVISED To: KR Net Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC201902C48@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here is the deal.....the group buy is off. Eric Pitts, one of the newest KR family members has introduced me to a company where you may buy 11 ¼" wide .010 Mylar at any length you want for .90 cents per foot up to 50 ft and .75 cents over 50 feet ($10 minimum). So, if you need gap seals, go to the site below and order the length you need. Basically you will need to buy 12 feet therefore you could split the order with a buddy since that would be plenty to do four ailerons or two planes. Here is the link: http://www.surplussales.com/RF/RFTeflon-Mylar_sht.html Thanks Eric for making this simple. Mark Jones Mueller Sales Corporation Ph: 262-781-5310 Fax:262-781-4130 E-mail: mjones@muellersales.com Web: www.muellersales.com ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:00:18 +0200 From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: KR> WAFS, rear spar, bolts To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If you haven't bolted your WAFS on the rear spar, make sure you install the bolts head forward. If you don't, if one day you need to remove the WAFS, the bolts on the upper WAF will be impossible to remove. The wing skin will be on the way. And don't ask me how I know this. Serge Vidal Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:29:29 -0400 From: David Mullins Subject: Re: KR> Mylar Gap Seals REVISED To: KRnet Message-ID: <417EB3A9.7090106@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mark, Here is ther place that I bought my Precurved mylar gap seals: http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page28.htm Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire Mark Jones wrote: >Here is the deal.....the group buy is off. Eric Pitts, one of the >newest KR family members has introduced me to a company where you may >buy 11 ¼" wide .010 Mylar at any length you want for .90 cents per foot >up to 50 ft and .75 cents over 50 feet ($10 minimum). So, if you need >gap seals, go to the site below and order the length you need. >Basically you will need to buy 12 feet therefore you could split the >order with a buddy since that would be plenty to do four ailerons or >two planes. Here is the link: >http://www.surplussales.com/RF/RFTeflon-Mylar_sht.html > > >Thanks Eric for making this simple. > >Mark Jones >Mueller Sales Corporation >Ph: 262-781-5310 >Fax:262-781-4130 >E-mail: mjones@muellersales.com >Web: www.muellersales.com > > >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:28:16 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> First Flight To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004001c4bba2$b5b412f0$6031ddcb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Colin Geat to hear, I Hope to join you as KR pilots next year. If all goes well. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:09:38 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Mylar Gap Seals / idea - question To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <02ec01c4bba8$7d579c50$6031ddcb@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Another possible solution, What about some of the great Model aircraft coverings, Very strong, made by many different companies. some are heat shrink, others dope shrink., but do not shrink , but use you double sided tape just my 2 cents worth. Question Is this fitted , so on full alieron travel, the material is tight across the bottom gap ?( if that makes sence) Can someone run over the fitting instructions for me PLEASE Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:11:37 -0700 From: "joe" Subject: KR> specs To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002001c4bba8$c34e3980$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone achieved the cruise and range indicated in the factory data sheet. Also am interested in high useful loads and what was done to achieve same. Email fegbdf@earthlink.net Thank you in advance. Joe ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 23:52:40 +0200 From: "Dene Collett \(SA\)" Subject: KR> HVLP To: "krnet" Message-ID: <000101c4bba8$a078fd00$37e5fea9@telkomsa127179> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi again A while ago there was a lot of talk about HVLP spraying systems and I did read them all. I don't remember reading anything describing the difference in spraying technique compared to normal HP spraying though. The reason I ask is that I have been given a brand new HVLP "Devilbis" spraygun by a local coating systems supplier in exchange for a pristine, extremely old, small " Devilbis-aerograph" gun that I inherited a number of years ago from my dad's late uncle. Aparently they don't even have one of them in their own museum in England so they offered me a brand new gun in exchange for it. I don't intend spraying anything soon but any advice would be appreciated-privately.. Thanks guys Dene Collett KR2S-RT builder Port Elizabeth South Africa mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net P.S: checkout www.whisperaircraft.com ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:49:21 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Mylar Gap Seals / idea - question To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <417ED471.000006.01696@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering And that is all I have to say about that! ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:04:55 EDT From: Steelef@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> EAA SW Regional Fly-in New Location To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Where is the "cerveza Perla" coming from? Seems to me that the Pearl Brewing outfit shut down sometime in the past ! Can anyone help out as it was not a bad beer ?Franc ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:17:03 EDT From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Mylar Gap Seals To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <7d.5bb80738.2eb034ef@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" COunt me in on one set and maybe two. Bill Clapp ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:28:14 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> specs / performance To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20041026182814.007fb960@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:11 PM 10/26/04 -0700, you wrote: >Has anyone achieved the cruise and range indicated in >the factory data sheet. >Also am interested in high useful loads and what was >done to achieve same. >Thank you in advance. Joe ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Joe, Here is the quick and short answer. Most of the factory specs were based on Ken's KR which was lightweight and turboed. Go turbo, go high, and carry lots of fuel if you want the range. The KR is a small airplane. Set your priorities early in the building stage. Everything has it price when it comes to performance. As for high useful loads, build light, use lots of power, and keep the CG right. The KR is strong for it's size but you can't have EVERYTHING in an airplane the size of a KR. The KR is fast and fun to fly but it has many limits because of it's size. Many KR builders make changes in order to build the aircraft they think will meet their needs. Check out the many projects at www.krnet.org. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:28:35 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Gap Seals / idea - question To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20041026182835.007d46b0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Another possible solution, >What about some of the great Model aircraft coverings, >Phil Matheson +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Why not just make a strip of fiberglass as long and wide as you want. Lay it on plastic or other smooth, non-stick surface for a smooth finish and glass/epoxy it to the bottom side of the wing to cover the gap. If you have to remove the aileron you could undo the aileron pushrod and tip the aileron to the vertical position to get to the hinge attach bolts. A piece of tape on the aileron surface would keep the gap seal from marking the paint. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:47:34 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Gap Seals / idea - question To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006101c4bbb6$2f7a4240$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Excellent idea Larry. That would work just fine. If I had not already ordered my Mylar that would be an option. However, the Mylar being applied with double sided tape is still the best answer for those who have already painted. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 6:28 PM Subject: KR> Gap Seals / idea - question > > >Another possible solution, > >What about some of the great Model aircraft coverings, > >Phil Matheson > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Why not just make a strip of fiberglass as long and wide as you > want. Lay it on plastic or other smooth, non-stick surface for > a smooth finish and glass/epoxy it to the bottom side of the wing to > cover the gap. If you have to remove the aileron you could undo > the aileron pushrod and tip the aileron to the vertical position > to get to the hinge attach bolts. A piece of tape on the aileron > surface would keep the gap seal from marking the paint. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 179 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================