From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 28 Date: 4/14/2004 9:00:33 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Sport Plane Classification (David Mikesell) 2. Re: Sport Plane Classification (Raybeth321@wmconnect.com) 3. Re: Sport Plane Classification (Raybeth321@wmconnect.com) 4. Re: Sport Plane Classification (GoFlySlow2@aol.com) 5. Re: Re-painting the aircraft (Mark Langford) 6. Sport Pilot (rhartwig11@juno.com) 7. Re: Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis (Norm Seel) 8. RE: Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis (Murray Gill) 9. Re: Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis (Steve and Lori McGee) 10. Re tail wheel endurance (j stevens) 11. Re: O200 (Stowers) 12. Re: 2 pitot questions (Ray Fuenzalida) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:03:58 -0700 From: "David Mikesell" Subject: Re: KR> Sport Plane Classification To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001301c42264$0217ba80$03fea8c0@davids> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Glad to see someone else had read it besides me. Sport Pilot really is to no ones benefit as it is written. The "pulling it back" is also not a legal move under the FAA's charter. IF the rule does not pass in the alloted time it is over, pulling it back does not change a thing, the law is actually dead and some lawyer will speak up and it will all have to start over again. David Mikesell skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:57 PM Subject: Re: KR> Sport Plane Classification > No "official" statement as to why OMB was going to reject it. FAA > "pulled it" from OMB at the last second when they found out OMB was > going to reject it. > If FAA had not pulled it, then the whole process would have to pretty > much start from scratch again. > > The most likely reason was due to FAA's inaccurate statements of > costs/benifits. The proposal was stated to cost 40 million dollars > over the next 10 years with a benefit of probable lives saved of 83. > > The cost to "ultralight" manufacturers to become compliant with ASTM > standards would put the average preconstructed aircraft at over 60 thousand > dollars.......thereby actually reducing the numbers of independent > (former Ultralight) > flight instructors. > > Just as with Recreational Pilot, the current G.A. Flight schools have stated > no interest in this type of instruction and for obvious economic and insurance > reasons would not purchase an LSA sport Aircraft or, even purchase an older > Standard airworthy aircraft like Taylorcraft or Piper cub to provide > this instruction. > > As for "transitioning" pilots (those currently certificated, but > without current medical), the FAA could easily have written into > Recreational Pilot an increased limitation for airspaces /speed/ > passengers into that pilot classification that > would allow these pilots to continue to fly with just a State drivers license and > no medical. > > Other than that, current Privet pilots may ALREADY transition to motorgliders > with only 3 hours of transitional training. > > These motorgliders (called self launch by FAA) have all of the > abilities and > more of any currently proposed Sport Aircraft. > Many, like the Europa, Xenos, Pipistrel and Grob109 are every bit > airplane (2 > seat side by side tractor 4 stroke engines, tricycle gear > > With the transitional training, here is the best part. > There are NO limitations to > Airspace > Speed, > Altitude > Night flight > > And > no endorsements required for tailwheel and complex. > Not even a Sea plane rating is required if on floats. (yep, there ARE > seaplane gliders) no ELT requirements as is for airplanes > no Mode C transponder required in the veil or above 10,000 ft. > Heck, you can even fly into some class A areas without an IFR rating or > instrumentation. > > And, > the 3 hours transition training serves as a BFR (that they will need > any way) > And, there is no endorsement requirement for EACH Make and Model > aircraft as > is for Sport Pilot > > Chuck > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:28:55 EDT From: Raybeth321@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> Sport Plane Classification To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <99.4591fdfd.2daf0717@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Chuck, Thanks for your fast reply. The info is helpful. Ray Goree Arlington, Tx ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:30:49 EDT From: Raybeth321@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> Sport Plane Classification To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <113.315921fd.2daf0789@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" David, Thanks for your timely reply. Ray Goree Arlington, Tx ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:31:42 EDT From: GoFlySlow2@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Sport Plane Classification To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <19d.230f69d4.2daf07be@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I truly believe that the motorglider alternative should be explored more fully. The KR -1 and 2 could easily purse that course of registration and Airworthiness. AND, utilize 2 different wing structures in that pursuit. (much like Europa is doing) The Europa gets registered as a "motor"glider and has the ability to switch wings to the short ones, without a change in registration or Pilot certification requirements, ie; glider pilot with no medical. (with the short wings, it's still a glider) A great alternative to flaps or bellyboards on the KR, is the use of traditional glider airbrakes. These are very effective and preclude the problems with ground clearance. found on the KR. Just a thought Chuck In a message dated 4/14/04 2:11:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, skyguynca@skyguynca.com writes: > Glad to see someone else had read it besides me. Sport Pilot really is > to > no > ones benefit as it is written. The "pulling it back" is also not a legal > move under the FAA's charter. IF the rule does not pass in the alloted time > it is over, pulling it back does not change a thing, the law is actually > dead and some lawyer will speak up and it will all have to start over again. > > David Mikesell > skyguynca@skyguynca.com > www.skyguynca.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:57 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Sport Plane Classification > > > >No "official" statement as to why OMB was going to reject it. FAA > >"pulled it" from OMB at the last second when they found out OMB was > >going to > reject it. > >If FAA had not pulled it, then the whole process would have to pretty > >much start from scratch again. > > > >The most likely reason was due to FAA's inaccurate statements of > >costs/benifits. The proposal was stated to cost 40 million dollars > >over the next 10 years with a benefit of probable lives saved of 83. > > > >The cost to "ultralight" manufacturers to become compliant with ASTM > >standards would put the average preconstructed aircraft at over 60 > thousand > >dollars.......thereby actually reducing the numbers of independent > >(former > Ultralight) > >flight instructors. > > > >Just as with Recreational Pilot, the current G.A. Flight schools have > stated > >no interest in this type of instruction and for obvious economic and > insurance > >reasons would not purchase an LSA sport Aircraft or, even purchase an > older > >Standard airworthy aircraft like Taylorcraft or Piper cub to provide > >this instruction. > > > >As for "transitioning" pilots (those currently certificated, but > >without current medical), the FAA could easily have written into > >Recreational Pilot an increased limitation for airspaces /speed/ > >passengers into that pilot classification > that > >would allow these pilots to continue to fly with just a State drivers > license and > >no medical. > > > >Other than that, current Privet pilots may ALREADY transition to > motorgliders > >with only 3 hours of transitional training. > > > >These motorgliders (called self launch by FAA) have all of the > >abilities > and > >more of any currently proposed Sport Aircraft. > >Many, like the Europa, Xenos, Pipistrel and Grob109 are every bit > >airplane > (2 > >seat side by side tractor 4 stroke engines, tricycle gear > > > >With the transitional training, here is the best part. > > There are NO limitations to > >Airspace > >Speed, > >Altitude > >Night flight > > > >And > >no endorsements required for tailwheel and complex. > >Not even a Sea plane rating is required if on floats. (yep, there ARE > >seaplane gliders) no ELT requirements as is for airplanes > >no Mode C transponder required in the veil or above 10,000 ft. > >Heck, you can even fly into some class A areas without an IFR rating or > >instrumentation. > > > >And, > >the 3 hours transition training serves as a BFR (that they will need > >any > way) > >And, there is no endorsement requirement for EACH Make and Model > >aircraft > as > >is for Sport Pilot > > > >Chuck > > > > > > > > > Chuck ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:03:49 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Re-painting the aircraft To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00db01c4227d$24fe04a0$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" "Serge F. Vidal" wrote > 1) Surface preparation > - To which grit should I sand the surfaces? Is 600 grit, dry sanding > OK? I'm no expert, but I guess one amateur opinion is better than absolutely nothing. If you're going to apply the paint directly to the old paint, 400 is probably best. Dry or wet is OK, but wet sanding will make the paper last longer, although it's more messy. If the paint is really ancient and you have no idea what it is, you should probably seal it first with sealer (or test it first) to make sure the paint is compatible with what you're going to put on it (although it may take years to screw up). > - There are a few areas of the skin that are slightly cracked. For example, > I have thin cracks around the elevator hinges. Should I resurface > these? If > yes, is Polyester body filler OK? I think if you paint over them or use body filler over them they'll just come back. Patching with fiberglass is the right way to do it, but that may be more trouble than you're up for. Your choice there. > 2) Choosing the paint > I am given a choice between polyurethane/polyester and polyurethane / > acrylic. Which one is best? I didn't even realize that there were two kinds of polyurethane until now, but I can tell you that I painted mine with the cheap stuff, and it's polyester based. The expensive DuPont that I bought to match my wife's Audi is acrylic. I figure since my plane is going to spend the vast majority of it's time in a hangar, and since the UV protection is really in the clearcoat anyway, that'll work just fine for me. Ask at your paint store, but for me the answer was that the good stuff was $130 a quart, and the cheap stuff (which looks just great) was $30 a quart. It took a gallon of paint (which is 1.5 gallons of sprayable stuff after adding the activator/reducer) to paint my Scirocco with three coats (which is what it took to cover the old paint and primer patches here and there). Obviously, the best place to get paint advice is where you buy the stuff, but here's what I learned from them. The cheap stuff doesn't cover quite as well, so if you need 2 coats of DuPont, you might need three coats of Nason. And the matching to OEM colors is better with DuPont than with Nason, but one gallon of Nason will match another one perfectly. They told me that most pros use the expensive stuff for repairs (where matching is critical) and Nason for a total repaint. In my automotive paint class the rules were sand with 180 before priming, and then sand the primer with 400 before painting, and then touch up the color with 600 between coats, and 1200 if you have a problem before clearcoat. Like I said though, I ain't no expert... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:15:45 -0500 From: rhartwig11@juno.com Subject: KR> Sport Pilot To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040414.201546.392.1.rhartwig11@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The following is from the EAA website, http://www.sportpilot.org/ " 03/25/04 - FAA TEMPORARILY RETRACTS SPORT PILOT PROPOSAL Action Allows FAA to Answer OMB Questions March 25, 2004 - FAA Administrator Marion Blakey ordered an administrative move on Wednesday, March 24, that keeps the sport pilot/light-sport aircraft rule on track for final approval this spring. She withdrew the proposal from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to answer several final questions about the rulemaking package. That maneuver saves the rule from facing a potential significant delay in its approval. By bringing the proposal back to FAA, Blakey can address OMB's questions in the most expeditious manner and return it quickly for final approval. FAA will return the rulemaking package directly to OMB without another complete review by the Department of Transportation. March 24 marked the end of OMB's 90-day review period. Had FAA not retracted the rule, OMB could have rejected it, severely delaying issuance of a final rule. While expressing disappointment in the 11th-hour development, EAA President Tom Poberezny commended FAA's decision and acknowledged it as the best way for the agency to address OMB's questions and secure a final rule as quickly as possible. "This is a temporary timing setback," he said. "EAA continues to champion and support the sport pilot/light-sport aircraft rule, as evidenced by the considerable resources we've dedicated to developing programs and services for our members, including the introduction this week of EAA Sport Pilot & Light-Sport Aircraft magazine." Poberezny also noted an upcoming announcement regarding a major sport pilot and instructor training program. FAA officials confirmed to EAA that answering OMB's questions about the proposed rule is a top priority." I guess we can only hope, Dick Hartwig Waunakee, WI rhartwig11@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:47:07 -0700 From: "Norm Seel" Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <005601c422ad$16ba2100$266c3f04@dslverizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I can't get the link on flutter to open. Suggestions? Norman Seel Brandon, FL norman.seel@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:07 AM Subject: RE: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis > Here is the link to Old Tony's articles.... > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/ > > ... and the one about flutter. > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/How%20to%20Mass%20 > Balance%20Control%20Surfaces.html#TopOfPage > > Serge Vidal > KR2 ZS-WEC > - Taildragger, VW powered (2.4 liter, dual electronic ignition) > - Total aircraft time: 390h > - Aircraft hangared at: Orleans, France > - Pilot moaning in: Tunis, Tunisia > E-mail: serge.vidal@ate-international.com > > > I wish I could find the URL to the original articles by Mr. Bingelis > who (in my opinion) does know what he is talking about. In the > interim, this extract from one of two articles (by Tony) that I have > on the topic. I do not remember any copyright restrictions - I tend > to look for and respect such warnings. please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:50:22 +1000 From: "Murray Gill" Subject: RE: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c42294$652d0550$2202a8c0@ABT2400> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes I can see what the problem is. The URL that you copied and posted was not complete. The rest of the URL was on the next line. This might work. The important thing to note is that "TopOfPage"is the end of the URL http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/How%20to%20Mass%20 Balance%20Control%20Surfaces.html#TopOfPage Murray Gill > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces+mjgill=webone.com.au@mylist.net > [mailto:krnet-bounces+mjgill=webone.com.au@mylist.net]On Behalf Of > Norm Seel > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 15:47 > To: serge.vidal@ate-international.com; KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis > > > I can't get the link on flutter to open. Suggestions? > Norman Seel > Brandon, FL > norman.seel@verizon.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Serge F. Vidal" > To: "'KRnet'" > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:07 AM > Subject: RE: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis > > > > Here is the link to Old Tony's articles.... > > > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/ > > > > ... and the one about flutter. > > > > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/How%20to %20Mass%20 > Balance%20Control%20Surfaces.html#TopOfPage > > Serge Vidal > KR2 ZS-WEC > - Taildragger, VW powered (2.4 liter, dual electronic ignition) > - Total aircraft time: 390h > - Aircraft hangared at: Orleans, France > - Pilot moaning in: Tunis, Tunisia > E-mail: serge.vidal@ate-international.com > > > I wish I could find the URL to the original articles by Mr. Bingelis > who (in my opinion) does know what he is talking about. In the > interim, this extract from one of two articles (by Tony) that I have > on the topic. I do not remember any copyright restrictions - I tend > to look for and respect such warnings. please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 21:56:07 -0500 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <004d01c42295$33731cb0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" When you type th url in an email, do not hit enter until you are done. Hitting enter at the end of the line stops the url address. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray Gill" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:50 PM Subject: RE: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis > Yes I can see what the problem is. The URL that you copied and posted > was not complete. The rest of the URL was on the next line. This > might work. The important thing to note is that "TopOfPage"is the end > of the URL > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/How%20to%20Mass%20 > Balance%20Control%20Surfaces.html#TopOfPage > > Murray Gill > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: krnet-bounces+mjgill=webone.com.au@mylist.net > > [mailto:krnet-bounces+mjgill=webone.com.au@mylist.net]On Behalf Of > > Norm Seel > > Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2004 15:47 > > To: serge.vidal@ate-international.com; KRnet > > Subject: Re: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis > > > > > > I can't get the link on flutter to open. Suggestions? Norman Seel > > Brandon, FL > > norman.seel@verizon.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Serge F. Vidal" > > To: "'KRnet'" > > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:07 AM > > Subject: RE: KR> Elevator Mass Balance mounting / Bingelis > > > > > > > Here is the link to Old Tony's articles.... > > > > > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/ > > > > > > ... and the one about flutter. > > > > > > > > http://members.eaa.org/home/homebuilders/authors/bingelis/How%20to > %20Mass%20 > > Balance%20Control%20Surfaces.html#TopOfPage > > > > Serge Vidal > > KR2 ZS-WEC > > - Taildragger, VW powered (2.4 liter, dual electronic ignition) > > - Total aircraft time: 390h > > - Aircraft hangared at: Orleans, France > > - Pilot moaning in: Tunis, Tunisia > > E-mail: serge.vidal@ate-international.com > > > > > > I wish I could find the URL to the original articles by Mr. Bingelis > > who (in my opinion) does know what he is talking about. In the > > interim, this extract from one of two articles (by Tony) that I have > > on the topic. I do not remember any copyright restrictions - I tend > > to look for and respect such warnings. please see other KRnet info > > at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 21:59:02 -0500 From: j stevens Subject: KR> Re tail wheel endurance To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <407DFA76.4020906@usfamily.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Thanks Larry I guess I should have figured the speed rating. For the weight limits you think six times the weight of the tail, for hard landings? ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:19:28 -0500 From: "Stowers" Subject: Re: KR> O200 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My trade-a-plane is at my work, I will bring it home tomorrow and post the ad for you Jerry Stowers Duncan, Ok. www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s flynredneck@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stowers" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:40 PM Subject: Re: KR> O200 > There are two O200 here in duncan, Ok. for sale. I believe the price > is 4,500 with all acc. ( They are in trade-a-plane ) > > Jerry Stowers > Duncan, Ok. > www.angelfire.com/ok5/kr2s > flynredneck@hotmail.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ross Evans" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:11 PM > Subject: RE: KR> O200 > > > > Hi gavin 0200's are expensive little engines there is on for sale in > > brisbane for about 17 000 to zero time in excess of 25 000 cheers > > ross > > > > > > >From: "Gavin Donohoe" > > >Reply-To: KRnet > > >To: "KR builders and pilots" > > >Subject: KR> O200 > > >Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 19:52:44 +1000 > > > > > >HI All, > > >I'm shying away from the EJ22 now in favour of the Continental O200 > > >for weight reasons. Trouble is over here in Australia it's hard to > > >get one (O200). Are they hard to get in the US as well? If not who > > >would be able > to > > >help me find one and organise shipping to Australia? > > > > > >Gavin > > >Australia > > >PS we don't get Corvairs here or I might have one of them instead > > > > > > > > >--- > > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > >Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 09/04/2004 > > >_______________________________________ > > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > SEEK: Now with over 50,000 dream jobs! Click here: > > http://ninemsn.seek.com.au?hotmail > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:38:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Fuenzalida Subject: Re: KR> 2 pitot questions To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040415033840.30953.qmail@web42005.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To continue with this theme, my pitot tube is loctaed at the top of the vertical stablizer. I'll try to start getting some photos set up. Ray --- JEHayward@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/13/2004 4:07:25 AM Mountain > Daylight Time, > DanRH@AllTel.net writes: > > > We were going to do as Mark J. suggests, until the > long thread on this > > subject convinced me to locate it outside. I had > it just behind the cabin, > > in the boat, on the Little Beast. > > Was it in Tony Benglis' book about placing it > > in the same location as the pitot tube? I've > > seen a "dual" one on a Pitts before in that > there were two tubes, one for the pitot and > the other one for the static. I've made one > > for my Challenger II that had the pitot tube > inside a larger, sealed off, static tube and > it > seems to work quite well. > > Jim Hayward > Rapid City, SD > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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