From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 3 Date: 3/22/2004 9:00:07 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Test (paulwasp@webtv.net) 2. Re; Testing (paulwasp@webtv.net) 3. Re:Test (paulwasp@webtv.net) 4. Re: FAA physical (Virgil Salisbury) 5. Re: FAA physical (Virgil Salisbury) 6. Balancing Ailerons (Wolfgang Decker) 7. General Consensus (Mark Jones) 8. Re: Balancing Ailerons (Mark Jones) 9. Re: General Consensus - Trim tab switch movement (Dan Heath) 10. Re: General Consensus - Trim tab switch movement (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 11:30:17 -0500 (EST) From: paulwasp@webtv.net Subject: KR> RE: Test To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <26422-405F1499-3846@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:50:48 -0500 (EST) From: paulwasp@webtv.net Subject: KR> Re; Testing To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <17777-405F2778-1202@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:56:27 -0500 (EST) From: paulwasp@webtv.net Subject: KR> Re:Test To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <1259-405F28CB-1910@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:30:06 -0500 From: Virgil Salisbury Subject: Re: KR> FAA physical To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040322.160113.2176.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii THX, Virg On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 14:19:27 -0600 larry flesner writes: > At 12:09 PM 3/21/04 -0500, you wrote: > > How do I find my info? Medical Jan, no response yet, Virg > > > =============+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > That may take a phone call to the FAA. Contact the Dr. that did the > physical and get a phone number. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:33:10 -0500 From: Virgil Salisbury Subject: Re: KR> FAA physical To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040322.160113.2176.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii THX to you also, Virg On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:55:40 -0500 "Dean Cooper" writes: > Virg, > > Here are the numbers for OK City: > > FAA Aeromedical Division 405-954-4821 > FAA Medical Appeals 405-954-7675 > > I hope this helps. > > Dean Cooper > Jacksonville, FL > Email me at dean_cooper@bellsouth.net > See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "larry flesner" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 3:19 PM > Subject: KR> FAA physical > > > > At 12:09 PM 3/21/04 -0500, you wrote: > > > How do I find my info? Medical Jan, no response yet, > Virg > > > > > =============+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > That may take a phone call to the FAA. Contact the Dr. that did the > > physical and get a phone number. > > > > Larry Flesner > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:03:06 -0500 From: "Wolfgang Decker" Subject: KR> Balancing Ailerons To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Netters, I followed the balancing discussion for some time now, and to through some more fuel into the fire (or to just post a dumb question): Shouldn't the Ailerons balance each other, since if the left one goes down the right one goes up? I personally do not recall that we used balancing weights on the gliders we build at the glider group in Germany. There was only one reason to add counterweights to ailerons, and that was to increase inertia of the system as to reduce Eigen-Frequency of the whole system to a manageable frequency. Schleicher Aircraft used an interesing method in the ASW-19, by putting lead into the top of the control stick. You may forgive me if the self balancing of the ailerons is not possible with the KR-2, as I am not yet fully familiar with the control mechanics. I got my plans only a few weeks ago and still in the study phase. Wolfgang ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:25:24 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> General Consensus To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <005001c41075$b80a0920$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have just completed the wiring of my elevator trim tab to the rocker switch and LED position indicator. Now I have to decide which way to position the indicator and Led positioned. The mounting holes are cut in the panel and all I have to de is screw them down. I have tried the rocker both ways. Up is up and up is down. Down is up and down is down. I am used to the trim wheel on Cessna where you turn the wheel back to raise the elevator and the Piper where the trim switch is on the yoke and you pull it back to raise the elevator. Now, should I set the rocker switch where elevator up is achieved by pressing the bottom which would be like pulling the yoke back and pressing the top would be like pushing the yoke forward. Confusing? That is why I would like a general consensus of how a panel mounted elevator trim rocker switch should be activated. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 19:31:01 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Balancing Ailerons To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005401c41076$805bc620$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Wolfgang, The reason to balance the ailerons is not to achieve equal control balance between the two ailerons yet to achieve balance on the pivot point of the aileron hinge to help eliminate flutter. Flutter is sudden and is seldom recoverable before it destroys the control surface. Do a search in the archives on flutter and you will have a nights worth of reading. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wolfgang Decker" To: Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 7:03 PM Subject: KR> Balancing Ailerons > Hi Netters, > > I followed the balancing discussion for some time now, and to through > some more fuel into the fire (or to just post a dumb question): > Shouldn't the Ailerons balance each other, since if the left one goes > down the right one goes up? I personally do not recall that we used > balancing weights on the gliders we build at the glider group in > Germany. > > There was only one reason to add counterweights to ailerons, and that > was to > increase inertia of the system as to reduce Eigen-Frequency of the > whole system to a manageable frequency. Schleicher Aircraft used an > interesing method in the ASW-19, by putting lead into the top of the > control stick. > > You may forgive me if the self balancing of the ailerons is not > possible with the KR-2, as I am not yet fully familiar with the > control mechanics. I > got my plans only a few weeks ago and still in the study phase. > > Wolfgang > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:29:09 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> General Consensus - Trim tab switch movement To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <405F92E5.000025.03592@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We have a toggle switch and even though it is on the panel, we pretended that it was a little stick and made it do what it would if it were the stick Push it forward and the plane goes down, pull it back and the plane goes up See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:30:40 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> General Consensus - Trim tab switch movement To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007501c41087$3798b2c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Agreed and if you wish to see the rocker switch and LED position indicator mounted in the panel, here is the link and it is at the bottom of the page... http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/TrimTab.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 7:29 PM Subject: Re: KR> General Consensus - Trim tab switch movement > We have a toggle switch and even though it is on the panel, we > pretended that it was a little stick and made it do what it would if > it were the stick > Push it forward and the plane goes down, pull it back and the plane > goes up > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 3 ************************************* ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================