From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 32 Date: 4/17/2004 5:40:21 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Any projects close to manitoba?? (gwvandor) 2. Re: Pitot (Orma Robbins) 3. Sport Pilot (rhartwig11@juno.com) 4. Opening the engine pt4 (Orma Robbins) 5. Re: Pitot (Joseph H Horton) 6. Re: mistake 1823 (Raybeth321@wmconnect.com) 7. Thermostat (Dean Cooper) 8. Re: Thermostat (Dan Heath) 9. Re: Pitot (Dan Heath) 10. Re: Web page - pages (Steve and Lori McGee) 11. Pitot (Colin & Bev Rainey) 12. Re: Sport Pilot (GoFlySlow2@aol.com) 13. pop riveting to wood. (Harold Woods) 14. SNF, report from the front (Brian Kraut) 15. Re Tail wheel endurance (j stevens) 16. Re: Thermostat (Veeduber@aol.com) 17. Sport Pilot information (Louis Staalberg) 18. Re: Thermostat (Larry Deckert) 19. VW's (Ron Eason) 20. Re: Any projects close to manitoba?? (Peter Johnson) 21. X-plane KR-2 (James R Freeman) 22. Re: X-plane KR-2 (Dan Heath) 23. Re: Opening the engine pt4 (Phillip Matheson) 24. Re: X-plane KR-2 (James R Freeman) 25. Re: Opening the engine pt4 (Orma Robbins) 26. Thermostat (larry flesner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 23:05:10 -0500 From: "gwvandor" Subject: Re: KR> Any projects close to manitoba?? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002f01c42431$2d8b5540$2fb2fea9@yourib3g4dzt9h> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" To: Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:32 PM Subject: KR> Any projects close to manitoba?? > I was curious if there was a KR2 or KR2S project for sale in the > manitoba area?? > > I was initially quite interested in Sonerai's but have found myself gravitating to the KR2 as a project. > > jbergen2003@yahoo.com > > kr1 at selkirk .man > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 06:32:37 -0400 From: "Orma Robbins" Subject: Re: KR> Pitot To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <030e01c42467$4e91dcb0$c724d445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" under the stub wing Mine is located in the outter panel about 18" from the attach. Orma L. Robbins Southfield MI 19 Years flying KR-2 N110LR http://www.aviation-mechanics.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 05:52:05 -0500 From: rhartwig11@juno.com Subject: KR> Sport Pilot To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040417.055205.2768.1.rhartwig11@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you have an interest in the Sport Pilot rule or in the rights of sport flying in general, please go to this EAA site and sign this petition to ask the OMB to release the proposed SPORT PILOT AND LIGHT SPORT AIRCRAFT RULEMAKING PACKAGE FOR PUBLICATION AS FINAL REGULATIONS. http://www.eaa.org/govt/petition.asp Dick Hartwig Waunakee, WI rhartwig11@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 07:06:58 -0400 From: "Orma Robbins" Subject: KR> Opening the engine pt4 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <035101c4246c$1aa3b220$c724d445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Net: Just a little update on the engine overhaul/replacement. I spent last Saturday driving to Indiana to pick up a type 2, 2 Liter. engine, just to get the crank. I spent Easter extracting the 71mm stock crank. Today I get to pick it and the new bearings up from the shop, after polishing. I am not using this case, but will use another type 2 case that is drilled for the mechanical fuel pump. My 103mm pistons were shipped from Cal. on the 14th. I still don't have a cam and want to find a 490X375. I still plan to attempt to install the turbo, but won't start that until the engine has been assembled. After much debate, I plan to reuse my existing prop hub which replaces the #4 main bearing. I'm also in the process of modifying my Volks power case to accept the gear reduced Subaru starter like the Diehl case uses. The adapter plate has been tack welded in place and next comes a trial fit for the starter to see if the alignment with the ring gear is correct. If correct, the adapter plate will be trimmed and finish welded. For those who don't know the VolksPower case, it is out of production. It has a slot for a V belt to be driven by the pulley/mag driver and a hefty boss area for attaching brackets for an external alternator. I currently use the 75 Honda Civic/Nipendenso 35 AH unit. P.S. For anyone interested, I have a spare type 2/4 case and several 66mm cranks. Orma L. Robbins Southfield MI 19 Years flying KR-2 N110LR http://www.aviation-mechanics.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 08:45:43 -0400 From: Joseph H Horton Subject: Re: KR> Pitot To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040417.084543.-275201.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain I made a jig this morning and checked my exact distance from prop arc to center line of the pitot. It is 12 3/4". If I go any further out it will interfer with the wheel pant installation. I think that I will leave it alone and see how it turns out. I'll be running the corvair again in the next week or so and if the airspeed shows that it thinks the plane is moving than I may have to change the location. On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 06:32:37 -0400 "Orma Robbins" writes: > under the stub wing > > Mine is located in the outter panel about 18" from the attach. Orma L. > Robbins Southfield MI 19 Years flying KR-2 N110LR > http://www.aviation-mechanics.com > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > Joe Horton Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:24:52 EDT From: Raybeth321@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> mistake 1823 To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <167.2e396d55.2db28a24@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Dan, What happened Dan? I will be cutting out and finishing my ailerons in the near future. Ray ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:58:04 -0400 From: "Dean Cooper" Subject: KR> Thermostat To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <021801c42484$017cdde0$0502a8c0@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters, Does anyone know where I can get a thermostat to build a heat box? Ideally, I would like to get one I could plug a small electric heater into and have it control power to it. But, if anyone else has better ideas, I'm open to them. Thoughts?? Dean Cooper Jacksonville, FL Email me at dean_cooper@bellsouth.net See my KR project at www.geocities.com/djramccoop1/KR2_Home.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:40:14 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Thermostat To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <408141CE.000017.01728@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Get a small electric heater with a thermostat on it. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:55:22 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Pitot To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4081455A.00001C.01728@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Click on... http://kr-builder.org/beast/beast2L.jpg See the pitot tube. I know that one worked. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:05:20 -0500 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" Subject: Re: KR> Web page - pages To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001b01c4248d$66bdf410$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No - control tubes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm Seel" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:54 AM Subject: Re: KR> Web page - pages > Steve, it seems to me that you are using Morse cables for controls. Am I > interpreting this correct from your Web pages? Thanks. > Norman Seel > Brandon, FL > norman.seel@verizon.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve and Lori McGee" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:51 PM > Subject: KR> Web page - pages > > > > Well here it is. I started pages at my regular family web site > > for the > plane build. This URL will take you right to the plane pages. > > > > I should say here that I do not plan to do a full build web page. > > I do > not want to take the time, nor do I feel we as a group need more pages > of spar building, sanding etc. I will cover topics that I decided to > do differently, or found little information on when I was researching > a topic. > > > > Plans and information are in the works for a web page on thermo > > forming > that mysterious material called clear acrylic (Plexiglas). I am > trying to get someone to draw cartoon characters for me (for free) and > have had no luck. Anyone out there want recognition for this? > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/magoosus/plane.html > > > > > > Steve McGee > > Endeavor Wi. USA > > Building KR2SW The Impostor > > lmcgee@maqs.net > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 11:07:38 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Pitot To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007301c4248d$b90b9830$99ef0843@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I agree with Dan Mine is halfway to the tip on the left wing and I have no prop wash issues. With nearly 2 hours of taxi testing performed no false readings. Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 11:33:36 EDT From: GoFlySlow2@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Sport Pilot To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <8e.896f672.2db2a850@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" If you have an interest in the Sport Pilot rule or in the rights of sport flying in general, please go to this EAA site and sign this petition to ask the OMB to release the proposed SPORT PILOT AND LIGHT SPORT AIRCRAFT RULEMAKING PACKAGE FOR PUBLICATION AS FINAL REGULATIONS. http://www.eaa.org/govt/petition.asp Dick Hartwig Waunakee, WI rhartwig11@juno.com ******************************* If you have an an interest in Sport Pilot, then you should actually read the NPRM and and the public comments that were made, prior to "knee jerk" signing of a "petition" FAA site - http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/sportpilot/overview.cfm Public Comments (type in 11133) - http://dms.dot.gov/search/searchFormSimple.cfm NPRM EAA has a lot of money invested in this "program". They are not unbiased. OMB , the Office of Managment and Budget as ESSENTIALLY rejected the proposal TWICE. The first time two years ago, and, just recently The medical aspect is not the problem. The problem is with the "new" category of pilot and aircraft. The increased regulations and cost of over 40 million dollars to impliment over a 10 year period that could be well spent on increased education, oversight, and an easing of STUPID regulations such as the 51% Am Built rule. A simple NO medical provision for Rec. Pilot with associated increased limitations to airspace would suffice. (a two tiered Rec. Pilot...one WITH medical and lesser privileges without medical. The SAME aircraft would be available for training and use. (180 hp 4 place but only 2 passengers permitted) The hierarchy of Pilot Certificates and medical requirements is already in place. ie; An ATP is required to have a 1st class medical. If that expires without renewal in 6 months, he may then only perform the functions of Commercial Pilot. When that expires in 1 year, he may then act only as a Private Pilot/Rec. Pilot. If after 2-3 years he does not get at least a 3rd class medical, then he could be allowed to fly under a no medical Rec. Pilot limitation. A simple decreasing of privileges that could be easily written into the Rec. Pilot privileges and limitations FAR. Initial no-medical Rec training could be in those aircraft that are already available to Rec. Pilot students. (180 hp 4 place or less) There is no need for separate pilot categories for weight shift and Powered parachutes. They may ALREADY be flown under Private Pilot and Rec. Pilot certificates. Weight shift could easily be covered with simple endorsements. AND, those "Aircraft" (weight shift) may already be registered under experimental airplane or glider guidelines. Those individuals that ONLY want to learn in weight shift (far and few between) and not be obligated to demonstrate proficiency in three axis airplanes have already been able to do it......in both glider and airplane categories. They have to really search for an instructor and examiner, .....but what the hell........they are a very small minority and should not influence the vast majority. If the market is there, then there will be more weight shift CFI's. Sport Pilot kills the ultralight infrastructure by eliminating the instructional exemptions while increasing the costs and regulatory burdens. Ultralight flying serves as a feeder into G.A. It's economic impact is important. And finally, by FAA's own statement, Sport Pilot is an attempt to decrease the numbers of "illegal" nonregistered aircraft and Pilots, While at the same time, FAA states that they do not intend to increase the already non-existant oversight and enforcement of any regulations. If FAA already has problems with "fat" ultralights, what are they going to do about all of the "fat" Sport Planes or non-Certificated pilots flying them? Fourty Million Dollars could buy a lot of increased pilot education. And improve FAA's ability to oversee and enforce current regulations. They want to save lives, improve safety and promote aviation.......that's how to do it. Chuck Scrivner Private Pilot ASEL and Private Pilot Glider Ultralight Flight instructor KR-2 owner Experimental Glider owner 2 Place exempted U/L trainer owner Airport Owner ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:43:12 -0400 From: "Harold Woods" Subject: KR> pop riveting to wood. To: Message-ID: <00bd01c4249b$12eeb0a0$0501a8c0@HAROLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It is simple to pop rivet aluminum or fibreglass to plywood using a washer on the back side. Similarly if you are popping something to thinner spruce , use a back up washer. My couling has a framework of 5/8" spruce. The piano hinges are popped to it without back up washers. Every pop rivet is first washed in acetone before epoxy is applied to it before popping. The holes in the wood are covered with epoxy before the popping takes place. If popping occurs near the end of the wood and parallel to the anular growth rings, there is danger of the wood splitting as the rivet is popped. Use a larger drill hole in the wood and back the rivet up with a washer .Or use a long (1") rivet , remove the cental mandrill from it, add the epoxy, push it into place and fill the inside with epoxy.It will never come out, the piano hinge will be destroyed first. Harold Woods Orillia,ON.Can haroldwoods@rogers.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:55:39 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> SNF, report from the front To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here is a Sun and Fun report for those who couldn't make it. Weather was pretty lousy Tuesday and Wednesday and it was pretty gusty in the mornings, but it has been beautiful since then. There seems to be a good amount of more planes and people than the last two years. Four KRs have shown up. Steve Makish and Robert Lester came in yesterday with nice tailwheel KRs with Corvairs from Ft. Lauderdale. There was one that came and left yesterday also. The builder's name was Ken, but I did not get the last name or where he was from. He had a Jaibru engine. Steve Jones came in yesterday with a beautiful white and yellow KR2. He has a type 4 VW and a nosewheel. This is an absolutely beautiful KR and probably the best looking I have seen inside and out. The panel is great looking and very well equipped. The finish work and paint are outstanding. He mentioned that the EAA magazine people took some pictures and with any luck we will have a much deserved article on this one. He has only been flying it for a few months and has over 100 hours on it. I am sure we will some awards on this one as it gets out and about more. Many thanks to the KR owners that flew in and were willing to take gathering flyers to put by their planes. There are a ton of KR builders and pilots that are not on the net, so events like this are a great way to promote the gathering to those that don't know it exists. Six of us were at the BBQ and we had a good time. Many thanks to Art Bruce for saving the day with the extra charcoal. 26 made it to the dinner and had a great time and good food at a very reasonable price. Virg made a call to Jeanette so we could all say hello. She is planning on coming to the gathering and it will be nice to see her there. Many thanks to Virg for running the diner for the past few years. I have taken the torch for the dinner next year. Any suggestions or comments are welcome. Please email them directly to me at brian.kraut@engalt.com. Now back to Wicks booth to push fiber optic instrument lights. Hope to see more of you the next few days and next year. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:02:48 -0500 From: j stevens Subject: KR> Re Tail wheel endurance To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <40816338.5080706@usfamily.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > >>Thanks Larry >>I guess I should have figured the speed rating. For the weight limits >>you think six times the weight of the tail, for hard landings? > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Odds are the tail is NEVER going to hit that hard. I'd think two times the tail weight with "all souls on board" and fuel, if you have wing tanks, (behind CG) would be more than enough. As a matter of fact, I can't think of a situation where tail weight X 1 wouldn't be enough. Rough field operations, maybe? Maybe if you "drop it in" sometime but Geeze, I'd hate to be riding with you if you drop it in hard enough to break the tailwheel assy !!! Larry Flesner LOL Larry I think that would the famous COIN landing.... heads tails, heads tails.....:) Joel ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:24:10 EDT From: Veeduber@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Thermostat To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 4/17/2004 6:59:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dean_cooper@bellsouth.net writes: > Does anyone know where I can get a thermostat to build a heat box? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Dean (and the group), I use a recessed ceiling light fixture, scrounged from a job site. It has a thermostat built-in. I'm in southern California (don't need a lot of heat), use a big cardboard box lined with foil for curing glued ribs, drying small painted parts, etc. Fixture is in the bottom of the box under a piece of screen. If the ambient is below 50*F, I screw in a 75W bulb, otherwise a 60W keeps the box warm enough. The thermostat opens when the wall of the fixture reaches about 160*F, closes when it drops back to about 80. You can tweak that by bending the leaf and by adding layers of aluminum foil over the side of the can facing the lamp. If you pick your teeth with a soldering iron you'll realize that once you have a bimetallic thermostat that makes & breaks a 110vac circuit, you can use it to control heat lamps, fans, strings of other lamps, etc. -R.S.Hoover ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:41:09 -0700 From: "Louis Staalberg" Subject: KR> Sport Pilot information To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <001201c424a3$2ba09570$6401a8c0@CenterDesk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Aviation News has very good and timely information. It is free. To sign up go to: http://www.avweb.com/profile Louis Payson, Arizona N9FL@cbiwireless.com ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:58:20 -0600 From: "Larry Deckert" Subject: Re: KR> Thermostat To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000e01c424ad$f72a1950$0200a8c0@LARRYS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I don't remember if it was Clarks Corvair or the Underground, but I bought an electric heater for a corvair I had several years ago. It was to defrost the rear window. If I remember right it was small, about 6-8" long and 3" deep and high. Maybe something like this would work instead of another hole in the firewall. ;) Larry Deckert Sandy Utah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Cooper" > Does anyone know where I can get a thermostat to build a heat box? Ideally, I would like to get one I could plug a small electric heater into and have it control power to it. But, if anyone else has better ideas, I'm open to them. Thoughts?? ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 14:07:06 -0500 From: "Ron Eason" Subject: KR>VW's To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009f01c424af$2d8c4260$6501a8c0@Administration> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Check this resource out for engine parts. http://www.cbperformance.com/category.asp?categoryid=10. Oil Pump Systems. Ron ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 14:13:30 -0700 From: "Peter Johnson" Subject: Re: KR> Any projects close to manitoba?? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001001c424c0$e9412d20$16431a45@peter> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi John. Hi tried emailing you direct, my note bounced back so I'm sending this to you via the KRNet. I'm in Kenora, Ontario and have a KR-2S that's stretched, widened, and deepened. I have two Corvair RH engines that I intend to use. You can email me direct at the addy below. Peter Johnson mailto:pjohnson@voyageur.ca ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:40:50 -0400 From: James R Freeman Subject: KR> X-plane KR-2 To: KR builders and pilots Message-ID: <004701c424b3$e3f1d840$19ed90cf@HP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ameet: Thank You for the KR-2 in X-Plane. It is very good. One comment, in my models for the next generation Q the group found that by using 2 airfoil files per wing in plane-maker we could come very close to real world on the test Q-200. This was our base-line to compare models using other airfoils. If You wish after my much dreaded move to the new house I can make the airfoil files in Reynolds numbers 1 10^6 and 9 10^6 for the RAF and AS airfoils. I have a copy of the S supplement and can do the changes in Plane-Maker Jim ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:42:37 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> X-plane KR-2 To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <408196BD.000001.00148@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jim, Do you know how to make the wireframe drawing in PlaneMaker, come out clean? Everytime I do it, it ends up with a lot of kinks, nooks and crannies, that I don't see in the wireframe. I do understand that there are some improvements in PlaneMaker in the next release. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 04/17/04 15:42:01 To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR> X-plane KR-2 Ameet: Thank You for the KR-2 in X-Plane. It is very good. One comment, in my models for the next generation Q the group found that by using 2 airfoil files per wing in plane-maker we could come very close to real world on the test Q-200. This was our base-line to compare models using other airfoils. If You wish after my much dreaded move to the new house I can make the airfoil files in Reynolds numbers 1 10^6 and 9 10^6 for the RAF and AS airfoils. I have a copy of the S supplement and can do the changes in Plane-Maker Jim _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html . ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:36:30 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Opening the engine pt4 To: "Orma Robbins" , "KRnet" Message-ID: <01a001c424cc$6e2a97f0$c897dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I spent Easter extracting the 71mm stock crank. ------- Orma. Forgive me if I am wrong, but I was of the understanding that the standard cranks are not strong enough, and a special crank was meant to be used in an aircraft conversion engine. I was looking for a Rev Master crank some time back for a friend, and the crank was about US$550. from revmaster. Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR at Mark Jones web http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/pmkr2.html ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 20:11:48 -0400 From: James R Freeman Subject: Re: KR> X-plane KR-2 To: KRnet Message-ID: <007201c424d9$be7c0b00$19ed90cf@HP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dan: From what I have read on the X-Plane tech group that problem has been fixed in the 7.40 beta version. With all the big changes Austin has made in V7 it looks like we will have V8 before long. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnetmylistnet" Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 4:42 PM Subject: Re: KR> X-plane KR-2 > Jim, > > Do you know how to make the wireframe drawing in PlaneMaker, come out clean? > Everytime I do it, it ends up with a lot of kinks, nooks and > crannies, that > I don't see in the wireframe. I do understand that there are some > improvements in PlaneMaker in the next release. > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > -------Original Message------- > > From: KRnet > Date: 04/17/04 15:42:01 > To: KR builders and pilots > Subject: KR> X-plane KR-2 > > Ameet: > Thank You for the KR-2 in X-Plane. It is very good. One comment, > in my models for the next generation Q the group found that by using 2 > airfoil files per wing in plane-maker we could come very close to real > world on the > test Q-200. This was our base-line to compare models using other airfoils. > If You wish after my much dreaded move to the new house I can make > the airfoil files in Reynolds numbers 1 10^6 and 9 10^6 for the RAF > and AS airfoils. I have a copy of the S supplement and can do the > changes in Plane-Maker > > Jim _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html . > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 20:23:56 -0400 From: "Orma Robbins" Subject: Re: KR> Opening the engine pt4 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <039d01c424db$70a44cb0$c724d445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" "not strong enough" Phil, I'm not sure how to answer. There are destinct versions of VW, the type1/3 and the type 2/4, and within these are verious cranks. I have no knowledge of how the revmaster crank is different. As to the cost of a crank, I paid $100 for the core engine, $75 fuel to bring it home, $50 to have it polished, I still have to pay to have it drilled and the keyway enlarged, and then there is the time that I have invested. I'd bet I'll see $ 300 before it is installed, and that is for a used part. So, I expect that $550 for a new part is not unreasonable. I do know that all of the Revmaster engines that I have seen are of the type 1/3 variety. In the aftermarket arena with all the hype and claims is hard to tell who is Forging what. When you get into stroked cranks, the rod journal size is reduced to create additional displacement. Decreasing the overlap between the main and rod journals has to decrease the strength of the crank. The main bearing journal diameter of the type 1/3 is 54.97 mm, where the type 4 main journals are 59.97 mm. That being said, the type 4 crank is the strongest of the VW's. Some aftermarket suppliers have added counter weights to the cranks. This is a needed addition for high rpm engines. Most of the mechanics that I have talked to say this is un-necessary under 5000 RPM. Not many KR's talk about engine failure on a regular basis. I have only heard of one type 4 crank failure, and that was in Diehl's KR. Even then as the story goes, he did not know it had failed until after flight, and after shutdown. I have heard of type 1/3 failures and I can't remember enouogh to speak of the details. I will suggest that perhaps they were stroked cranks with small journals. So, I have gone out of my way to find an original crank which has a stroke of 71 mm to combine with 103 mm pistons for a displacement of 2366. After discussions with Ron Slender, I'm sure he would have what could possibly be some interesting comments about your question. ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 19:36:52 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Thermostat To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040417193652.008d5620@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Does anyone know where I can get a thermostat to build a heat box? Ideally, I would like to get one I could plug a small electric heater into and have it control power to it. But, if anyone else has better ideas, I'm open to them. Thoughts?? >Dean Cooper ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What heat range are you looking for and what is the application? 50 F through 90F you could use a standard home thermostat ($10) that is used to switch baseboard heaters. They are a simple on/off contact and are mounted in a standard electrical switch box. Beyond that I don't know. Maybe a mercury switch on a bi-metal strip from another thermostat could be used to control a relay and that control the heater if you need something higher. Alter the assembly to work in the heat range you need, i.e., mount it at an angle, bend something, etc. :-) :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 32 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================