From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 5 Date: 3/24/2004 8:41:50 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Thrust line data (Bob) 2. Cell Phone Weather! (Ross Youngblood) 3. RE: Cell Phone Weather! (Dana Overall) 4. Standards (Graham & Ruth Strout) 5. Re: Loss of list (paulwasp@webtv.net) 6. Re: Re: Loss of list (Mark Langford) 7. Re: Re: Loss of list (Mark Langford) 8. Re: Bounced email (paulwasp@webtv.net) 9. Re: Larry Flesner (Steve and Lori McGee) 10. Re: Standards (larry severson) 11. test (stuart beach) 12. Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. (Steve and Lori McGee) 13. Re: Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. (Steelef@aol.com) 14. Re: Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. (Norm Seel) 15. Re: Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. (Dan Heath) 16. Re: Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. (Veeduber@aol.com) 17. Re: KRnet sticker update (Mark Langford) 18. RE: Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. (Brian Kraut) 19. RE: Cell Phone Weather! (Brian Kraut) 20. Traveling advice/Identity protection (joe) 21. Re: Standards (larry flesner) 22. Testing (vjsw-nfo4@spamex.com) 23. Testing (vjsw-nfo4@spamex.com) 24. traveling advice (joe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:13:12 -0600 From: Bob Subject: Re: KR> Thrust line data To: KRnet Message-ID: <406118E8.BAC07431@hcnews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mark..sent the headsets Monday..They were 45 each..the venturi were 25 each..bob Mark Langford wrote: > > Steve McGee wrote: > > >> I know I have seen this mentioned before both here and noticed it > >> in web____________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:27:50 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR> Cell Phone Weather! To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 This was posted to the Cardinal Flyers Online board... I tried it tonight and I now can get weather on my cellphone! Cool! (Of course you need one of those new fangled picture phones, and Verizon for this one)... but I thought It might be of interest. In flight weather? From: "Nick Sargent" Subject: Cell Phone Weather FYI - I just learned this, and am trying it out using an LG 4400 series phone on the Verizon network. Punch 'Get It Now; then 'shopping cart', 'start', 'get going', 'weather', 'Pilot-My Cast', and voila - you can download aviation weather - Weather map, Radar, Metars & TAFs. It appears to be near real-time as you would see on an aviation weather website online. Actually, at this point I'm amazed. Uses regular air time minutes, plus $9.95 a month subscription. So I'm gonna try it for a while and see how it goes. I would think this is available in one form or another with other services and phones. [You can sign up on their website for specific services (including Sprint) *and* only specific phones. Paul] Question: What are the ramifications of using a cell phone at little airplane altitudes, assuming one can get a signal? [You're violating an FCC rule, of which enforcement is very spotty, but with a potential $10,000 fine. More practically, digital phones don't work in voice mode, at least, above several thousand feet or so. Don't know about in digital mode. Analog works aloft, but some consideration to multi-cell blanketing should be given. Paul] Nick Sargent, Lebanon OH -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 06:24:14 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" Subject: RE: KR> Cell Phone Weather! To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I've used it for the last several months. It is a nice addition for weather awareness. Believe it or not, the near real time NEXRAD is actually a little conservative in it's presentation. I think it has something to do with picking up water saturated clouds from above the earth vs. water pickup of a standard radar. It also is from pilot mycast on a phone from Cingular. So, when I meet up with Langford on April 15th for our trek to SNF we'll have on board, in Doug's plane, a new GNX80, new Garmin audio panel for Doug to play with, Mark has his his new Garmin 196, I'll have my new Monroy 200 air traffic detector and cell weather.........................heck with all those new toys on board we'll probably strangle ourselves in all the wires:-) Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Get tax tips, tools and access to IRS forms – all in one place at MSN Money! http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:22:05 +1030 From: "Graham & Ruth Strout" Subject: KR> Standards To: Message-ID: <002201c4119e$d0405b00$640157cb@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" The following is a question I put to our regulator (Australian Ultralight Federation) and then I've include their answer. I recently purchased a KR-2 (28-4085) and after some small alterations (ie change of number, new seats,rework damaged fibreglass) I then intented to tackle and make better a Cof G problem. The aft CofG limit is 302mm from the datum (WRLE) and if this is what I have to work with, it seriously limits the usable fuel. The header tank is 72 litres of which I can only burn off 28 litres before the CofG is outside the envelope!. Am I able too extend the aft CofG to 330mm as in some other KR-2s?. If not am I able to remove the retractable undercarriage and replace it with a fixed undercarriage which slopes slightly forward. I can then recalculate the E.W and Cof G without the engine, calculate the engine arm,and move the engine forward far enough to get the CofG right after max fuel burn off and not have the plane fall on it's nose. Seperate parts of this have been done by different builders but some were done under the VH experimental. Am I able to perform this sort of work under the 28 category? Answer : As this A/C is a 101-28, and is built to a std eg FAR 23. This means that the A/C must be maintained to this approved std. If the mods you propose are out side the std to which your A/c was built to, this will mean that you will not be able to modify this A/C. My comment : Good grief, what next! Is there such a standard? Where can I find them?Can I do these modifications and still comply with these stds? Does the Rand company approve modifications to there design? Were can I find a list of these approved designs? Has anyone got some legal ideas? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:17:33 -0500 (EST) From: paulwasp@webtv.net Subject: KR> Re: Loss of list To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <14687-40618A6D-34@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Hi, all; I would like to know if any of you KR netters out there have also lost the list. All of a sudden, 4 days ago, I haven't recieved one post from the list, despite re-subscribing a number of times. I do get in-coming mail from other sources, but not from the list. Any ideas? Puzzled; Paul http://community.webtv.net/paulwasp/paulwaspspad ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:04:17 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Re: Loss of list To: , Message-ID: <0bab01c411a8$e5b24520$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Paul, Your messages are getting through to the list, so obviously you are still a subscriber. First place I'd look is your ISP's anti-spam software. Sometimes it gets crazy and puts something on there that shouldn't be there (for instance, after receiving 40 messages from the same place in one day). I suspect that's where you'll find your problem. On the flip side of that, I often get messages from irrate subscribers that I have somehow "cut them off" and am preventing them from posting. The problem there is almost always that they are trying to send the messages from an account that is not subscribed to KRnet. They read the messages from one account, and try to send from another, and that won't work unless you're subscribed to both accounts. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:06:15 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Re: Loss of list To: "KRnet" , Message-ID: <0bb301c411a9$2c5fd640$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I should have also mentioned that the easy check to see if you are not getting mail while the rest of the list is to check the escribe archive at http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ . Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 13:37:46 -0500 (EST) From: paulwasp@webtv.net Subject: KR> Re: Bounced email To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <29822-4061D57A-613@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Hello; I haven't been recieving my email from krnet@mylist. My provider said it's because it's being 'blocked', and that this happens sometimes. They say that to 'unblock' it, you must forward a 'bounced' message to them?? Does that make sense? It's all Greek to me. The address they gave me for you to forward to is as follows: support4u@corp.webtv.net Thank you. Paul Gangemi 1029 E.25th St. Erie, PA 16503 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:12:17 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" Subject: Re: KR> Larry Flesner To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004801c411f5$73d7d1c0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merl Manning" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 7:38 AM Subject: RE: KR> Larry Flesner > If you widen it to 40" at the shoulders will the "standard" canopy and rear > turtle deck still fit? > > Merl Manning (merlm@netins.net) > Eldora, Iowa > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Gavin Donohoe > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:51 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Larry Flesner > > > Go for 40 inches at the shoulders, that'll be heaps!!! > > Gav > > Australia > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen Jacobs" > To: "'KRnet'" > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 6:54 PM > Subject: KR> Larry Flesner > > > > Larry > > > > I am trying to finalize the cockpit width - I have been studying > > pictures of aircraft with an occupant in the pilot's seat - in > > particular your bird and that of Chris Gardiner - both appear to > > have adequate space - but I am not sure how big the occupant is. > > > > How wide would you make it if you built another 2S and wanted 2 > > seats? > > > > I was surprised at how far you are seated away from the panel in > > your airplane - I suspect that you have no shortage of legroom - > > looks like a good 4" of headroom? > > > > Does anyone know how big a fellow Chris Gardiner is - he looks very > > comfortable in his KR? > > > > Maybe I trying an overkill with 1200 mm (47") > > > > Thanks > > Steve (askies"AT"microlink.zm) > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.634 / Virus Database: 406 - Release Date: 18/03/2004 > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:41:01 -0800 From: larry severson Subject: Re: KR> Standards To: Graham & Ruth Strout , KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040324153702.028932b8@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Everyone talks about KR2s that are built to plans, but almost none are built to the actual plans. Part of the problem is that the plans are loosely written leaving a significant variation. The plans have only the retract gear design, but Rand Robinson sells fixed gear (like Diehl) - both tail dragger and tricycle versions. Since RR sells the gear, I believe that one can argue that they are acceptable changes to the plans. >My comment : Good grief, what next! Is there such a standard? Where can >I >find them?Can I do these modifications and still comply with these stds? >Does the Rand company approve modifications to there design? Were can I >find a list of these approved designs? Has anyone got some legal ideas? Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:01:33 -0800 (PST) From: stuart beach Subject: KR> test To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040324230133.41444.qmail@web61207.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What is the standard cockpit width of the KR-2? Thanks. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:45:51 -0600 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" Subject: KR> Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. To: Message-ID: <001801c41202$85a0f7d0$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I will throw out observations I have made. This use of epoxy on such a weak wood as this spruce is drastic overkill. It takes little to break the grain of the wood. You could probably build a KR using Liquid Nails and be just as safe. Same goes with this wiring. For those of us with polyurethane foam in the plane, the fact the wire fumes will not be toxic is no relief. As to following plans on a KR few have and there are many true improvements over the original garage builders design. So whats one more here and there. There is NOTHING plans built so far on my plane. I could sell the plans when I am done as they have not built a KR! Though I will not as I will use them for reference in the future when I build a GP4, or P38, or.... Firewall is decided, 2 - 1/16 layers of fiber frax and aluminum for cover and looks. Flamesuit is on. Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S / Vision lookalike widened. lmcgee@maqs.net ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:04:55 EST From: Steelef@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <149.24fb0584.2d938a37@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" steve mcgee said ; 2-1/16 layers of fiber frax -I guess i have ben asleep, "What is FIBER FRAX ? franc steel ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:41:01 -0800 From: "Norm Seel" Subject: Re: KR> Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00b201c41234$239fefa0$bb0a2804@dslverizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I believe you should check out Aircraft Spruce and other catalogues. Norman Seel Brandon, FL norman.seel@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: Re: KR> Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. > steve mcgee said ; 2-1/16 layers of fiber frax > > -I guess i have ben asleep, "What is FIBER FRAX ? franc steel > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:26:07 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4062352F.000008.02932@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You probably deserve some flames for that one, but, what the heck, it's not Friday and you are entitled to your opinion and I can appreciate your observations. However, I think your post could be misleading to new builders. Our plane is plans built with few modifications. And you are right about the great changes that builders have made over the years that have been adopted as almost" plans. I am concerned about your using aluminum on the firewall, but that is your call. For everyone else, I think you should use stainless, as aluminum will burn up and add to a fire, should it occur. Let's don't make it worse than it may already be. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 03/24/04 19:45:44 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. I will throw out observations I have made. This use of epoxy on such a weak wood as this spruce is drastic overkill. It takes little to break the grain of the wood. You could probably build a KR using Liquid Nails and be just as safe. Same goes with this wiring. For those of us with polyurethane foam in the plane, the fact the wire fumes will not be toxic is no relief. As to following plans on a KR few have and there are many true improvements over the original garage builders design. So whats one more here and there. There is NOTHING plans built so far on my plane. I could sell the plans when I am done as they have not built a KR! Though I will not as I will use them for reference in the future when I build a GP4, or P38, or.... Firewall is decided, 2 - 1/16 layers of fiber frax and aluminum for cover and looks. Flamesuit is on. Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S / Vision lookalike widened. lmcgee@maqs.net _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:18:39 EST From: Veeduber@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <131.2ba94296.2d939b7f@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 3/24/2004 4:45:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, lmcgee@maqs.net writes: > This use of epoxy on such a weak wood as this spruce is drastic > overkill. > It takes little to break the grain of the wood. You could probably build a > KR using Liquid Nails and be just as safe. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adhesive strength has not been a factor in glue selection since the early 1920s with the introduction of 'cold water' casein glues. All modern adhesives are stronger than the woods most typically used in aircraft construction. Glue selection is based on other factors such as cost, toxicity, UV tolerance, convenience of use and so forth. Structural adhesives such as 'Liquid Nails' are seldom considered for aircraft construction due to their greater weight and prolonged curing time (ie, seven days for full strength, etc.). No need for your asbestos underwear. You've simply rediscovered what most builders of wooden aircraft have known all along. (Along with builders of wooden houses, wooden boats, wooden kayaks, wooden bridges, wooden... ) -R.S.Hoover ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:24:49 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR>KRnet sticker update To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005c01c41221$1ceb2610$2502a8c0@800Athlon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK, gotta show y'all the sticker that I picked up today. It's at http://www.krnet.org/krnet_sticker.jpg . Pretty cool looking. They are 3.7" wide by 3" tall on a white background. Sales have picked up a little, and I think we're up to about 220. I ordered 300 so there are still some left. Details, and how to order, are detailed below. Please visit the website mentioned below if you want some. I should have the rest (or some anyway) by Friday and they'll be in the mail on Saturday... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:51 PM Subject: KR>KRnet sticker update > KRnetHeads, > --------------------------------------------- > > Somebody brought up the idea of selling KRnet stickers a few weeks ago > to finance KRnet, help with the Gathering if needed, and finance a "KR > prop rental" program. Best of all, we'd all end up with KRnet > stickers! Several > folks have looked into having them made, and we're still working on > that (anybody that has a line on sticker-making-for-cheap is welcome > to contact me). By the way, the original logo was dreamed up by Oscar > Zuniga, and actually created by former member Robert Covington. > > I think we're far enough along that we need to know how many of these things > we're going to need to order. The best way I can think of to do that > is to > let y"all order them, and then we'll know. You need to go through the > online ordering process even if you send a check, just so we can > capture the > quantity we're going to need. Bob Lee has conjured up a web page to > let you > do that. Please pay attention and answer the questions, check the > boxes, and do it right to make sure everything works correctly. > > One thing I thought of (actually my wife thought of it) that would > make this > a lot easier on me is if most everybody ordering would pay by check > and send > a self addressed stamped envelope with their order. This would make > it very > easy to open an envelope, look at the check, stuff stickers in the > SASE, and > go to the next one. If you do that, I don't even think I'll have to > use the > "envelope stuffer" volunteers. I'll still take Paypal, but that costs > money, and it would allow me to screw up your address between my > computer and an envelope, and would be a lot more work. You'll see on > Bob's ordering > page that there's a one dollar incentive to just send the self > addressed stamped envelope with your check. As far as accountability, > you're just going to have to trust me to do the right thing and keep > up with it. Then again, I may only get five orders and nobody will > have to worry about! > > You can see the logo, and place your order, at > http://krgathering.org/KRnet/KRnet_pro_shop_order.htm . We'll let it > go for > about a week before we'll call it "done", and then we'll place our > order with the vendor. > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:14:49 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Are you sure you are not using balsa wood? :-) I agree that there are plenty more toxic things in a KR to burn than the wire, including the epoxy. I think that it is a good decision to use aircraft wire because it is very easy to smoke a PVC wire without a fire. Of course, proper circuit protection should prevent that, but not under every circumstance. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Steve and Lori McGee Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:46 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Plans, wiring, wood glue rantings. I will throw out observations I have made. This use of epoxy on such a weak wood as this spruce is drastic overkill. It takes little to break the grain of the wood. You could probably build a KR using Liquid Nails and be just as safe. Same goes with this wiring. For those of us with polyurethane foam in the plane, the fact the wire fumes will not be toxic is no relief. As to following plans on a KR few have and there are many true improvements over the original garage builders design. So whats one more here and there. There is NOTHING plans built so far on my plane. I could sell the plans when I am done as they have not built a KR! Though I will not as I will use them for reference in the future when I build a GP4, or P38, or.... Firewall is decided, 2 - 1/16 layers of fiber frax and aluminum for cover and looks. Flamesuit is on. Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S / Vision lookalike widened. lmcgee@maqs.net _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:25:20 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Cell Phone Weather! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I used it for about six months. I really loved it, but my digital phone would usually not work above 1,000' so it was fairly useless in the cockpit. It was really great for preflight planing though and not expensive. I go a postcard from www.wxworx.com yesterday for their XM radio based system. The card was for a live demonstration at my airport, but unfortunately, I got the card the day after the demo. I had an XM in my KR piped through my intercom and it worked great all the time at any altitude so that would probably be a real good in flight weather sytem. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dana Overall Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:24 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR> Cell Phone Weather! I've used it for the last several months. It is a nice addition for weather awareness. Believe it or not, the near real time NEXRAD is actually a little conservative in it's presentation. I think it has something to do with picking up water saturated clouds from above the earth vs. water pickup of a standard radar. It also is from pilot mycast on a phone from Cingular. So, when I meet up with Langford on April 15th for our trek to SNF we'll have on board, in Doug's plane, a new GNX80, new Garmin audio panel for Doug to play with, Mark has his his new Garmin 196, I'll have my new Monroy 200 air traffic detector and cell weather.........................heck with all those new toys on board we'll probably strangle ourselves in all the wires:-) Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Get tax tips, tools and access to IRS forms  all in one place at MSN Money! http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:32:35 -0800 From: "joe" Subject: KR> Traveling advice/Identity protection To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003c01c41222$32c0ca20$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My best friend sent me this attorney's advice for people who travel a lot. I know a number of us are planning to do some heavy traveling this year, so I thought I'd pass it along to those who care about such things. ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:25:11 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Standards To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040324202511.00888950@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Answer : As this A/C is a 101-28, and is built to a std eg FAR 23. This >means that the A/C must be maintained to this approved std. If the mods >you propose are out side the std to which your A/c was built to, this >will mean that you will not be able to modify this A/C. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If they are refering to the U.S. FAR part 23, I believe this is the FAR that U.S. "certified" aircraft are built to. The KR was not built to Part 23 standards and we are required to placard out instrument panel to that effect. There is no approved standard for "experimental" in the U.S.A. other than being built using generally accepted materials and practices. Tell them the changes , i.e. , fixed gear instead of retractable, were made for safety reasons. Retractable gear fold up on landings after the gear assy gets worn, etc. See if they will tell you that you can't make improvements for safety reasons. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:24:46 -0500 From: vjsw-nfo4@spamex.com Subject: KR> Testing To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain Testing ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:34:28 -0500 From: vjsw-nfo4@spamex.com Subject: KR> Testing To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain Testing ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:43:42 -0800 From: "joe" Subject: KR> traveling advice To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00c901c41223$c007aba0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My best friend passed this attorney's advice along to me for people who travel a lot. > AN ATTORNEY'S ADVICE >=20 > A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his >company. =20 > 1. The next time you order checks have only your initials (instead of > first name) and last name put on them. If someone takes your checkbook > they will not know if you sign your checks with just your initials or > your first name but your bank will know how you sign your checks. >=20 > 2. When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO > NOT put the complete account number on the "For" line. Instead, just > put the last four numbers. The credit card company knows the rest of > the number and anyone who might be handling your check as it passes > through all the check processing channels won't have access to it. >=20 > 3. Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If > you have a PO Box use that instead of your home address. If you do not > have a PO Box, use your work address. Never have your SS# printed on > your checks. You can add it if it is necessary. But if you have it > printed, anyone can get it >=20 > 4. Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine, do both > sides of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in > your wallet and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call > and cancel. Keep the photocopy in a safe place. I also carry a > photocopy of my passport when I travel either here or abroad. We've > all heard horror stories about fraud that's committed on us in > stealing a name, address, Social Security number, credit cards, etc. >=20 > Unfortunately I, an attorney, have firsthand knowledge because my > wallet was stolen last month. Within a week, the thieve(s) ordered an > expensive monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, > had a credit line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN > number from DMV to change my driving record information online, and > more. >=20 > But here's some critical information to limit the damage in case this > happens to you or someone you know: >=20 > 1. We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. > But the key is having the toll free numbers and your card numbers > handy so you know whom to call. Keep those where you can find them >=20 > 2. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where it was > stolen, this proves to credit providers you were diligent, and is a > first step toward an investigation (if there ever is one). >=20 > But here's what is perhaps most important: (I never even thought to do > this). >=20 > 3. Call the three national credit reporting organizations immediately > to place a fraud alert on your name and Social Security number. I had > never heard of doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell > me an application for credit was made over the Internet in my name. > The alert means any company that checks your credit knows your > information was stolen and they have to contact you by phone to > authorize new credit. By the time I was advised to do this, almost > two weeks after the theft, all the damage had been done. There are > records of all the credit checks initiated by the thieves' purchases, > none of which I knew about before placing the alert. Since then, no > additional damage has been done, and the thieves threw my wallet away > this weekend (someone turned it in). It seems to have stopped them in > their tracks. >=20 > The numbers are: >=20 > Federal Trade Commission's Identity Theft Hotline > 877/ID-THEFT >=20 > Social Security Administration's Fraud Hotline > 800/269-0271 >=20 > Equifax fraud division > 800/525-6285 > P.O. Box 740250 > Atlanta, GA 30374 >=20 > Experian fraud division > 888/397-3742 > P.O. Box 1017 > Allen, TX 75013 >=20 > Trans Union fraud division > 800/680-7289 > P.O. Box 6790 > Fullerton, CA 92634 >=20 > We pass along jokes on the Internet; we pass along just about > everything. Pass this information along. It could really help someone > you care about. >=20 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 5 ************************************* ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================