From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 66 Date: 5/12/2004 6:27:23 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Help with a fix (David Mikesell) 2. Re: Help with a fix (lee van dyke) 3. Re: Help with a fix (David Mikesell) 4. Selling KR-2 Project N541RY (Ross Youngblood) 5. Re: Help with a fix (Boeing757mech1@aol.com) 6. Re: Folding Wings (Mac McConnell-Wood) 7. Re: Help with a fix (Mac McConnell-Wood) 8. Justin - KR2 VS KR2S (Edward Seaman) 9. RE: Help with a fix (Stephen Jacobs) 10. Posting Plans (Dan Heath) 11. Re: Selling KR-2 Project N541RY (LJHusky1@wmconnect.com) 12. Why a 172 RG? (Colin & Bev Rainey) 13. Final inspection (The Weber's) 14. Re: Final inspection (Dan Heath) 15. Wings for sale (Raybeth321@wmconnect.com) 16. forming Lexan lenses (larry severson) 17. Re: Final inspection (The Weber's) 18. Aluminum Speed Brake (Mark Jones) 19. Re: Final inspection (Kenneth B. Jones) 20. Re: Final inspection (JEHayward@aol.com) 21. RE: Aluminum Speed Brake (Brian Kraut) 22. Re: Selling KR-2 Project N541RY (Ross Youngblood) 23. Re: Why a 172 RG? (Ross Youngblood) 24. forming Lexan lenses (larry flesner) 25. Speed Brake (larry flesner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 20:55:35 -0700 From: "David Mikesell" Subject: Re: KR> Help with a fix To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000501c437d4$fb8f8d60$03fea8c0@davids> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Simple, make a 12 to 1 scarf joint, the added weight is in grams and the strength is (if done correctly) as strong as it was before. I have done several in spar webs and spar caps without a single failure. Get out the 43.13b - Acceptable methods and practices and I believe it is in Chapter 1 somewhere, that is the wood section and it explains it pretty well. It is very easy to do and will definitely take care of your problem. David Mikesell 23597 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-609-8774 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "lee van dyke" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:21 PM Subject: KR> Help with a fix > Netters, > > As some of you know, I'm re-dong a plane that is now 20 years old. I > had to cut through the rear post of the V/stab. I know need to re-attach a new post. you see what I'm working with at the following link. http://vandyke5.com/tail.htm go to the last photo. > Any Ideas will be appreciated and considered,,, well most of them. > > Lee Van Dyke > vandyke5.com > lee@vandyke5.com > N783JB > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:30:22 -0700 From: "lee van dyke" Subject: Re: KR> Help with a fix To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002a01c437d9$d737b640$8101a8c0@robb> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How do I scarf the post that is still on the plane?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Mikesell" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:55 PM Subject: Re: KR> Help with a fix > Simple, make a 12 to 1 scarf joint, the added weight is in grams and > the strength is (if done correctly) as strong as it was before. I have > done several in spar webs and spar caps without a single failure. Get > out the 43.13b - Acceptable methods and practices and I believe it is > in Chapter 1 somewhere, that is the wood section and it explains it > pretty well. It is very easy to do and will definitely take care of > your problem. > > David Mikesell > 23597 N. Hwy 99 > Acampo, CA 95220 > 209-609-8774 > skyguynca@skyguynca.com > www.skyguynca.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lee van dyke" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:21 PM > Subject: KR> Help with a fix > > > > Netters, > > > > As some of you know, I'm re-dong a plane that is now 20 years old. I > > had > to cut through the rear post of the V/stab. I know need to re-attach > a new > post. you see what I'm working with at the following link. > http://vandyke5.com/tail.htm go to the last photo. > > Any Ideas will be appreciated and considered,,, well most of them. > > > > Lee Van Dyke > > vandyke5.com > > lee@vandyke5.com > > N783JB > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 21:07:46 -0700 From: "David Mikesell" Subject: Re: KR> Help with a fix To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000501c437d6$af887060$03fea8c0@davids> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" that is pretty easy from the picture you had on your site. you will have to remove the lower hinge point and the gap seal for the rudder. then make the cut back from bottom to top of the remaining post. that is the thickest part will be on the bottom and the thinnest on the top. I am not sure how long that piece is, hard to tell from the picture but the least you and do is 8 to 1 taper, if it is not long enough for that then you are probably better off cutting out what is left of the old post and installing a new one. David Mikesell 23597 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 209-609-8774 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "lee van dyke" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:30 PM Subject: Re: KR> Help with a fix > How do I scarf the post that is still on the plane?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Mikesell" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Help with a fix > > > > Simple, make a 12 to 1 scarf joint, the added weight is in grams and > > the strength is (if done correctly) as strong as it was before. I > > have done several in spar webs and spar caps without a single > > failure. Get out the 43.13b - Acceptable methods and practices and I > > believe it is in Chapter 1 > > somewhere, that is the wood section and it explains it pretty well. > > It is > > very easy to do and will definitely take care of your problem. > > > > David Mikesell > > 23597 N. Hwy 99 > > Acampo, CA 95220 > > 209-609-8774 > > skyguynca@skyguynca.com > > www.skyguynca.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "lee van dyke" > > To: "KRnet" > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:21 PM > > Subject: KR> Help with a fix > > > > > > > Netters, > > > > > > As some of you know, I'm re-dong a plane that is now 20 years old. > > > I had > > to cut through the rear post of the V/stab. I know need to > > re-attach a > new > > post. you see what I'm working with at the following link. > > http://vandyke5.com/tail.htm go to the last photo. > > > Any Ideas will be appreciated and considered,,, well most of > > > them. > > > > > > Lee Van Dyke > > > vandyke5.com > > > lee@vandyke5.com > > > N783JB > > > _______________________________________ > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > > KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at > > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 22:35:12 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: KR> Selling KR-2 Project N541RY To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 Looks like I'm going to be owning a spam can shortly (71 Cardinal RG) As a result, I am preparing to sell my KR-2 project N541RY. (http://n541ry.us) After negotiating with the wife for a larger plane, I had to concede that I can only actually fly one at a time. Work and other issues made me decide that I'd rather fly than build, so I need room in the hangar for my new toy. (Actually I won't be hurt if it doesn't sell quickly) It is NOT YET ready for inspection equipped as follows: KR-2 N541RY SN7947 (Slightly longer (8" or so) than stock KR-2, but prior to KR-2S plans) 1835cc VW Engine - Great Plains Aircraft long block kit. Deihl accessory case w/Bosh starter (no magneto) Mahagony prop by Props Inc Newport OR Comp-U-Fire Electronic Ignition Ellison Throttle Body Injector 4:1 ceramic coated exhaust Terra TX760 Com/TR250 Transponder (installed NEW) Terra Built in Intercom/PTT switch on stick Jacks for Pilot/passenger behind pilot. Small Halon Fire Extinguisher RST Avionics antenna (in aft deck) Ameri-King Blind Encoder ACK ELT (remote switch cracked) Retract Gear with HAPI pin latch modification. Matco Disk Brakes and wheels 11Hrs on Hobbs (about 5 on engine). VFR instrumentation (Altimiter, Airspeed, Compass, CHT, EGT, Gas) Plus Electric Gyro and VSI Rand Flap controls and center stick. Removeable forward deck. 11Gal each wing, 5 gal header tank. Each wing has independant Facet fuel pumps header is gravity feed. KRnet stickers on vertical tail. Includes Wing storage dolly, and wing self rigging cart. Work remaining to complete before sign-off: Elevator trim installation (not happy with stiffness in linkage aft). Canopy latch re-design. Lower wing center section glassing & wing fuel disconnect re-routing. (Helper in AZ damaged lower ctr section.) Needs flap torque rod access covers (lower center spar). Possible new cowling, existing cowling is marginal. Aileron rigging. Flap rigging. Pitot tube re-installation. (Hangar Rash) I will be considering offers above $6000.00, if interested, I have a PACE 16'x8' enclosed trailer available as well which I will sell with the KR for an additional $4000. The aircraft is currently registered with the FAA as N541RY, but does NOT have an airworthyness certifiate. You would need to complete construction and get it signed off. (I have all construction logs). Some discussions on KRnet have hinted that you do not need to do all 51% of the work on your kitplane, just that the plane needs to be homebuilt. That is somthing you really need to discuss with your local DAR or FSDO (in US). The plane is based in Corvallis Oregon (CVO) currently, but I live 92 miles north, which is why I have little time for construction. I may list this on E-bay in a week or so, but thought I'd give the KR-netters first shot. -- Ross -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 02:24:21 EDT From: Boeing757mech1@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Help with a fix To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1d3.20ae0e5c.2dd31d15@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 5/11/2004 8:57:30 PM US Mountain Standard Time, lee@vandyke5.com writes: http://vandyke5.com/tail.htm Lee, Grind off all of that old foam and glass that was between the lower rudder and the lower tail post. Bond a new tail post right to what's left of the old one. When you remount your rudder hinge use bolts long enough to go all the way though both the new spar and the old spar and add a couple of though bolts with large area washers at the top of the old spar. If you really wanted to beef if up you could add a plywood doubler to each side of the fuselage with a nice chaffer on the leading edge. After you reinstall you H/S and repaint no one will ever notice that it's there. Chris Theroux Gilbert, AZ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:27:42 +0100 From: "Mac McConnell-Wood" Subject: Re: KR> Folding Wings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <052401c4380b$c3df3f00$0fe5403e@tinypc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi , -Someone in the UK installed folding wings on a KR2, I'm wondering if this is the same design. -would you send a pic if pos as I am considering this modification. Regards -fiery strumpets ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen and Janet Henderson" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:33 PM Subject: Re: KR> Folding Wings > I actually bought the KR-1 from Mr. Moore this past weekend that has > the folding wing kit installed. I removed the folding wing kit from it > on Sunday > afternoon and would be willing to sell it to anyone that is > interested. It is very easy to install, I just don't have a need for > folding wings. Please > contact me if you would like some photos or info. > > Thank you, > Stephen Henderson > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Fuenzalida" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 11:11 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Folding Wings > > > > I won the folding wings plan from Mr. Moore. He sent > > me his prototype ( which I still have to send back) so > > that I couls make my own. It does look pretty cool. > > Anyone can contact him direct at rmoore@alltel.net > > I believe he is selling the plans. I can tell you > > that they look very simple but effective. I still > > haven't gotten to the point of my wing construction to > > see if I am going to use them (wing tanks seem to be a > > hurdle) but I would really like to incorporate them > > into my setup. When I do the wings, I will post and > > give an update as to what I did. Hope this helps. > > Ray > > > > --- LJHusky1@wmconnect.com wrote: > > > I have been gone for awhile and I remember some > > > plans being raffled off for > > > folding wings. I was just wondering if anyone had > > > used these plans and if > > > there are any updates on how they work. Thanks for > > > the information > > > > > > Larry J. Husky > > > LJHusky1@wmconnect.com > > > No KR yet.... Coming soon to an airport near you!!! > > > _______________________________________ > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > > KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs > > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:53:40 +0100 From: "Mac McConnell-Wood" Subject: Re: KR> Help with a fix To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000f01c4380f$795fc180$c5e1403e@tinypc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Lee -Can't you just remove the rest of the post and replace with a completely new one-or am I missing something? Regards Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "lee van dyke" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:30 AM Subject: Re: KR> Help with a fix > How do I scarf the post that is still on the plane?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Mikesell" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 8:55 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Help with a fix > > > > Simple, make a 12 to 1 scarf joint, the added weight is in grams and the > > strength is (if done correctly) as strong as it was before. I have done > > several in spar webs and spar caps without a single failure. Get out the > > 43.13b - Acceptable methods and practices and I believe it is in Chapter 1 > > somewhere, that is the wood section and it explains it pretty well. It is > > very easy to do and will definitely take care of your problem. > > > > David Mikesell > > 23597 N. Hwy 99 > > Acampo, CA 95220 > > 209-609-8774 > > skyguynca@skyguynca.com > > www.skyguynca.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "lee van dyke" > > To: "KRnet" > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:21 PM > > Subject: KR> Help with a fix > > > > > > > Netters, > > > > > > As some of you know, I'm re-dong a plane that is now 20 years old. I had > > to cut through the rear post of the V/stab. I know need to re-attach a > new > > post. you see what I'm working with at the following link. > > http://vandyke5.com/tail.htm go to the last photo. > > > Any Ideas will be appreciated and considered,,, well most of them. > > > > > > Lee Van Dyke > > > vandyke5.com > > > lee@vandyke5.com > > > N783JB > > > _______________________________________ > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:47:51 +0100 (BST) From: Edward Seaman Subject: KR> Justin - KR2 VS KR2S To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040512104751.11026.qmail@web25105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Justin I was amazed at the quality of the pictures you posted on the plans. I only have KR2 plans and always thought the only difference was the fuselage stretch and maybe the under cart. I note from your plans that there are extra ply gussets and doublers on the top of the boat. In some foto' I have seen extra diagonals accross the top etc. Would you please consider posting a picture of the rear half of the 2S top view and maybe the side view (if there are ant differences). Thanks Ed ____________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:17:46 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Help with a fix To: "'Mac McConnell-Wood'" , "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000c01c43812$c4599af0$9964a8c0@homedesktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Lee It has been said a few times now - sacrifice what is left of the VS trailing edge (rudder post) by drilling loads of holes into it and breaking it out (carefully) bit by bit - leaving the overlapping ply sides and Fuselage 5/8" spruce untouched and free of adhesive. Start off with the replacement post a fraction over size and work it down until it fits neatly. Use the old top part as a template for re-locating the hinges. Measure three times - cut once. Don't forget to static balance. I stared at the pic but cannot see what you were pointing out - what is (was) wrong with the hinges - loads of slop? Good luck Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 07:24:23 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Posting Plans To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40A20967.000005.02236@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Before anyone posts anymore images of the KR plans, they should probably check to see if doing so will violate any copyright on those plans. There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 13:18:45 EDT From: LJHusky1@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> Selling KR-2 Project N541RY To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <129.413718ac.2dd3b675@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Ross, I am currently located in Salem, OR on vacation and would love to come and see your project. I am looking for a good project and would really like to see yours. I will be here through next friday. Let me know if you have time. Larry ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 14:16:06 -0400 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Why a 172 RG? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003e01c4384d$31ee13e0$99ef0843@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ross contact me offline Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 14:52:31 -0500 From: "The Weber's" Subject: KR> Final inspection To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002f01c4385a$aaa700a0$42cab4d8@hppav> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I started construction on the KR-2S, 837JW November 2, 97. Today (May 12, 04) I had the final inspection. It has a 2180 VW. I will keep you posted on the first flight. Joe Weber Cuba City, Wis. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 16:56:17 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Final inspection To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40A28F71.000001.03340@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Joe, Were there any issues with the inspection? Are there pictures of your plane posted on the net somewhere? Congratulations and wishing you will with your flights. There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 05/12/04 15:52:07 To: KRnet Subject: KR> Final inspection I started construction on the KR-2S, 837JW November 2, 97. Today (May 12, 04) I had the final inspection. It has a 2180 VW. I will keep you posted on the first flight. Joe Weber Cuba City, Wis. _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html . ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 18:04:14 EDT From: Raybeth321@wmconnect.com Subject: KR> Wings for sale To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Will the person that had the wings for sale for $100 please E-mail Joachim Saupe at jsaupe@yahoo.com and let him know yes or no, please. I accidentally deleted your E-mail to the net. He is interesred. Thanks Ray Goree Arlington, Tx. raybeth321@wmconnect.com ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 15:18:30 -0700 From: larry severson Subject: KR> forming Lexan lenses To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040512151726.0327a010@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I need to replace a landing light cover. What is the temperature for forming Lexan to the right shape in the oven? 325? use an aluminum form? Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:38:05 -0500 From: "The Weber's" Subject: Re: KR> Final inspection To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000d01c43871$cbb4cc20$90cab4d8@hppav> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I neglected to saftey the gascolator and the ELT needs a switch on the instrument panel Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:56 PM Subject: Re: KR> Final inspection > Joe, > > Were there any issues with the inspection? Are there pictures of your plane > posted on the net somewhere? > > Congratulations and wishing you will with your flights. > > There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for > building has long since expired. > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > -------Original Message------- > > From: KRnet > Date: 05/12/04 15:52:07 > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> Final inspection > > I started construction on the KR-2S, 837JW November 2, 97. Today (May 12, > 04) I had the final inspection. It has a 2180 VW. I will keep you posted on > the first flight. > Joe Weber > Cuba City, Wis. > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > . > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 18:05:45 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Aluminum Speed Brake To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <004701c43875$a865f600$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have searched the archives on "aluminum speed brake" and only got eight results. I am going to install an aluminum speed brake with three rows of 3/4" diameter holes. I am planning on a 9" x 36" size. My question is...what thickness 6061-T6 aluminum should I use? The only reference I have found stated .060 but personally, I think that is way too thin. I was more inclined to 1/4". What do you guys think? Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 19:47:56 -0400 From: "Kenneth B. Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Final inspection To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <025601c4387b$8d54bc10$8d7ba8c0@oemcomputer> I've never seen a requirement to have a switch for the ELT on the panel. Which FAR or other requirement did he reference? Ken Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Weber's" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 6:38 PM Subject: Re: KR> Final inspection > I neglected to saftey the gascolator and the ELT needs a switch on the > instrument panel > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Heath" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:56 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Final inspection > > > > Joe, > > > > Were there any issues with the inspection? Are there pictures of your > plane > > posted on the net somewhere? > > > > Congratulations and wishing you will with your flights. > > > > There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for > > building has long since expired. > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > From: KRnet > > Date: 05/12/04 15:52:07 > > To: KRnet > > Subject: KR> Final inspection > > > > I started construction on the KR-2S, 837JW November 2, 97. Today (May 12, > > 04) I had the final inspection. It has a 2180 VW. I will keep you posted > on > > the first flight. > > Joe Weber > > Cuba City, Wis. > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > . > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 19:50:06 EDT From: JEHayward@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Final inspection To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <81.bba85ed.2dd4122e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 5/12/04 5:49:06 PM Mountain Daylight Time, kenbjones@cinci.rr.com writes: << I've never seen a requirement to have a switch for the ELT on the panel. >> My ELT came with a remote switch for panel mounting. Jim Hayward Rapid City, SD ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:07:59 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Aluminum Speed Brake To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Most aluminum ones I have seen are from .090 to .125. I think 1/4" is way overkill. .060 may work for a very small speed brake, but that seems thin for a 9" brake unless you had some stiffeners rivited in. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:06 PM To: KR Net Subject: KR> Aluminum Speed Brake I have searched the archives on "aluminum speed brake" and only got eight results. I am going to install an aluminum speed brake with three rows of 3/4" diameter holes. I am planning on a 9" x 36" size. My question is...what thickness 6061-T6 aluminum should I use? The only reference I have found stated .060 but personally, I think that is way too thin. I was more inclined to 1/4". What do you guys think? Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 18:21:42 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR> Selling KR-2 Project N541RY To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 Larry, OK... I'm in the process of purchasing the Cardinal RG this weekend, but my be taking off some time next week to fly my new toy. I may be able to do somthing Sunday, but with the seller coming up this weekend we may not be able to. Do you have a number where I can reach you set somthing up? -- Ross On Wed, 12 May 2004 13:18:45 EDT, wrote: > Ross, I am currently located in Salem, OR on vacation and would love to > come > and see your project. I am looking for a good project and would really > like > to see yours. I will be here through next friday. Let me know if you > have > time. > > Larry > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 18:22:59 -0700 From: Ross Youngblood Subject: Re: KR> Why a 172 RG? To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 Why a 172RG? Large 4' doors. 200HP Lycoming Fuel injected engine. And a terrific rube goldberg hydraulic retract system. Also... I couldn't afford the Mooney 201J I wanted. -- Ross On Wed, 12 May 2004 14:16:06 -0400, Colin & Bev Rainey wrote: > Ross contact me offline > > Colin & Bev Rainey > KR2(td) N96TA > Sanford, FL > crainey1@cfl.rr.com > http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:22:07 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> forming Lexan lenses To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040512202207.007c89e0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I need to replace a landing light cover. What is the temperature for >forming Lexan to the right shape in the oven? >325? >use an aluminum form? >Larry Severson ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I made two landing light lenses using "plexiglass". I used the 48" rib template to cut two leadedge forms and attached them to a flat surface (board). I used lightweight alum to overlay the two pieces of wood (separated by the dimention of the lense) and then covered that with felt. The flat plate of "plexiglass" was attached to the mold using clips and the entire unit was placed in the oven. It took maybe 200 F to get the flat plate to start to droop. At that point I removed it from the oven and formed it over the mold wearing soft cloth gloves. I held it in place for a minute of two as it cooled. Presto, lenses!! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 20:22:35 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Speed Brake To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040512202235.007cb780@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My question is...what thickness 6061-T6 aluminum should I use? The only reference I have found stated .060 but personally, I think that is way too thin. I was more inclined to 1/4". What do you guys think? Thanks >Mark Jones (N886MJ) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= Sounds rather heavy to me. I made my speed brake ( 9" X 30") from 1/4" foam with a piece of spruce on the lead edge where the hinge attaches and a spruce plug in the middle where the actuating arm attaches. I used two layers of glass on each side, as I recall, and removed the foam from the edges and filled with flox. I drilled many 1/8" holes in the piano hinge and floxed and glassed it to the brake. I drilled quite a few 3/4" holes in the brake, removed the foam from the edge of the holes, and floxed there also. My brake goes down to nearly 90 degrees and I've had it fully deployed at up to 95 smph indicated with no problem. I have my ASI "whitelined" (flap speed) to about 90 mph. Usually on base leg I slow to 90 IAS and run the brake full down. I don't have an indicator for the brake but I can watch my amp meter and tell when the brake is full down. It takes about 7 seconds. To check for full down I just move the brake switch to down and if the amp meter doesn't move the brake is already full down. Of the 100 or so landings to date I have yet to land without the brake full down. It makes for a much more comfortable approach. The fact that my brake has only one attach point for the pushrod that deployes it and that is offset from the center by approx 5 or 6 inches should give you some idea of it's strength. I built a small ramp of foam and glass on the belly to fare the lead edge of the brake. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 66 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================