From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 8 Date: 7/3/2004 5:17:43 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Tank leak (Stephen Jacobs) 2. RE: outboard spar taper (Stephen Jacobs) 3. RE: Re: "DOG-CUSSING" (Stephen Jacobs) 4. Re: Vne (StRaNgEdAyS) 5. Re: want to unsubscribe? (StRaNgEdAyS) 6. Oil Cooler Air System (Mark Jones) 7. Yahoo groups feature list (Ameet Savant) 8. Re: Oil Cooler Air System (Dan Heath) 9. Yahoo groups feature list (Larry A Capps) 10. Re: Oil Cooler Air System (Mark Jones) 11. Re: Yahoo groups feature list (Mark Jones) 12. Re: Oil Cooler Air System (Dan Heath) 13. Re: Yahoo groups feature list (Ameet Savant) 14. Re: Oil Cooler Air System (Mark Jones) 15. Yahoo groups feature list (Larry A Capps) 16. Re: Yahoo groups feature list (Alex Swavely) 17. Re: Oil Cooler Air System (Steve and Lori McGee) 18. Re: Yahoo groups feature list (Ameet Savant) 19. Re: want to unsubscribe? (Joseph H. Horton) 20. Re: Yahoo Groups (Ron Smith) 21. Stall warnings (Ron Smith) 22. Re: Stall warnings - didn't find to much on stall warnings (Dan Heath) 23. Website update/ Motivation (David Mullins) 24. Re: Stall warnings - didn't find to much on stall warnings (Dennis Mingear) 25. Re: Website update/ Motivation (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 22:24:41 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Tank leak To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000601c4613b$cc464ae0$c764a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" rather discouraging,as it was claimed that sloshing compound would block fuel lines.filters and pumps ++++++++++++++++++ Dankie Bwana When I was refurbishing my Cherokee 6 I spent a great deal of time researching the Sloshing compound available for certified aircraft fuel tanks. I think that there was only one product available - may be wrong there Eric. There had been reports of the problems you refer to, but I soon found out that the folks who had the most to say had never used the stuff. I came to the conclusion that problems were encountered by guys who did not read the instructions - in particular the preparation of the tank. Some of the problems were caused by metal tanks that had been sloshed in a previous attempt to cure a serious leak and not treated /cleaned before the second attempt - in short, the new compound was applied over a bad prior job. Consider doing some tests on a glass panel of similar material (and rigidity) and see how well it bonds. In your case it would be well worth the trouble to gain both wing tanks. >From what I heard from some 20 guys who had used it, I would have no hesitation in using it on a glass tank (epoxy or polyester). I do not recall if the instructions addressed the application for non-metal tanks, but I do recall that my Boere Boeing tip tanks were composite (Almost sure it was a polyester resin). AS things turned out, the coatings in all 4 of my tanks were in good shape, so I never got to use the stuff. Take care Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 22:24:41 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> outboard spar taper To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000801c4613b$cfde3eb0$c764a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If you have a compressor, blow the hell out of the sanded surface and that should remove any lose particles. ++++++++++++++++++ Make absolutely sure that your compressor is producing clean air. The number of paint jobs that I have ruined due to moisture or oil in the air would keep me from doing this - rather vacuum. Some talk of wiping with a solvent?? Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 22:24:41 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Re: "DOG-CUSSING" To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000701c4613b$cf8bb1e0$c764a8c0@home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Mark, I want to add my "THANK YOU" for a job well done ++++++++++++++ Ditto Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 06:26:17 +1000 From: "StRaNgEdAyS" Subject: Re: KR> Vne To: Message-ID: <40E71668.000077.02628@motherfucker> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Colin and Bev wrote: "I would also add that Vne is normally expressed as the speed at which when the airspeed is increased beyond that speed , that the airfoil has the capability to produce loads that exceed the aircraft's ability to with stand " While this once was true for early aircraft designs, anything designed since the 1920's should not suffer this problem. Simply put, a wing should never designed where the available lift surpasses the spar's ability to hold it. What of the case of wings folding in a spiral dive you ask? In the case of the spiral dive, it is the excessive G forces that lead to structural failure rather that the excessive speed. What would more likely happen in the case where the aircraft has exceeded it s design speed but is still apparently maintaining control effectiveness is a condition known as "mach tuck" where the Cl has moved too far back from the CG and the resultant pitching moment has overridden the horizontals' (not the elevators') ability to maintain pitch control, so the aircraft pitches downward sharply, and the resultant sudden shift in attitude can lead to dramatic structural failure. Cheers. Peter Bancks strangedays@dodo.com.au http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com http://canardaviationforum.dmt.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 06:35:35 +1000 From: "StRaNgEdAyS" Subject: Re: KR> want to unsubscribe? To: Message-ID: <40E71897.000079.02628@motherfucker> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Don't be too hard on yourself Mark. :-) It's one of those things that happens in Cyberspace. The mylist group seems to be as good as any others for mailing list management. The only thing I could suggest is that you (or a designated member) keep a backup of the subscriber list in case of any future server problems. Cheers. Peter Bancks strangedays@dodo.com.au http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com http://canardaviationforum.dmt.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 15:52:43 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Oil Cooler Air System To: "KR Net" , "Corvaircraft" Message-ID: <008b01c4613f$b0565ba0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello All, I have just completed my oil cooler air system. Here is a link to my web page section on the air duct work: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/scat.html Let me know what you think. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 14:13:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Ameet Savant Subject: KR> Yahoo groups feature list To: KRnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040703211351.97999.qmail@web60807.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii KRnetters, After talking with Mark Langford, I did some research on yahoo groups. It seems like yahoo has a lot more to offer as compared to our present mailing list. The features of yahoo groups are: 1) Members can receive messages in single email or digest format 2) Group moderator can strip out attachments to eliminate virus attacks 3) Joining of the group may depend on moderator's approval 4) The first email from a member may also depend on moderator's approval 5) You can have more than one moderators 6) Automatic archiving. 7) Archives may be open to public (just like we have it now) 8) Allows members to hide their email addresses from the group. However, if you hide your email address then you are not allowed to take part in the polls and you are not allowed to post messages via email 9) Allows moderators to individually block members Other nice features available only if you have a yahoo email account. These features can be controlled, as to who edits them. (for example upload of files can be done only by moderators etc..): 10) Live chat with other members of the group 11) Place to upload files 12) Place to upload photos 13) Place to store associated links (I have seen many members ask the group about some website link they lost) 14) Place to create a Database... this feature can be used for many things 15) Place to hold polls 16) Place to create a calendar of events 17) There is some feature for promoting the group, but I wonder if that costs something? 18) It is all free. I know a lot of people are going to resist getting a yahoo email account, but I have had one for a long time and I am very happy to say they are the best in spam protection and not to mention... the inbox is 100MB in size and it is free. I have setup a group already and since Mark likes control :o) I don't mind making him a moderator. To check out the group go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/krnet/ And.. no, I don't work for Yahoo neither do I own stock in Yahoo... (hmm maybe I should?) Thanks Ameet Savant ameetsavant at yahoo dot com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:27:35 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Oil Cooler Air System To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40E724C7.00000B.02716@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good work Mark. I wonder if I could get cabin air like that? Why not? "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:31:11 -0500 From: "Larry A Capps" Subject: KR> Yahoo groups feature list To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c46145$0f5b0ec0$0500a8c0@schpankme> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Please, stick it in your ear, pay to play like the rest of us, their is no free rides. Look how you stated your post, "KRnetters", not Yahoo readers! Yahoo Groups is a joke, why waste your time. I'm not putting up with beginning part of the all American sucker list with my email address again. Also, the popup ads and ads which require you to click through them to read the next post is a joke. The problem "Mark Langford" has experienced, is but one hiccup in many months of useful service, and this type of service is available at dozens of other places. Larry A Capps Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- KRnetters, After talking with Mark Langford, I did some research on yahoo groups. I have setup a group already and since Mark likes control :o) I don't mind making him a moderator. To check out the group go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/krnet/ And.. no, I don't work for Yahoo neither do I own stock in Yahoo... (hmm maybe I should?) Thanks Ameet Savant ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:38:47 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Oil Cooler Air System To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00bd01c46146$1fc92f20$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" > Good work Mark. I wonder if I could get cabin air like that? Why not? Actually, I am planning on getting my cabin air that way by putting another inlet on the opposite side of the cowl. But I am going to fly this thing first and do that later. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:42:50 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Yahoo groups feature list To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00cd01c46146$b0b874a0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I too have been on Yahoo groups and found them to be a real pain in the kiester. The pop up ads are endless and the resulting spam is not worth it. Personally, I will not sign up to a Yahoo list. I vote to keep the list we have. If you have a photo to post, send it to me and I will put it on my web page for all to see. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ameet Savant" To: Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 4:13 PM Subject: KR> Yahoo groups feature list > KRnetters, > > After talking with Mark Langford, I did some research > on yahoo groups. It seems like yahoo has a lot more to > offer as compared to our present mailing list. The > features of yahoo groups are: > > 1) Members can receive messages in single email or > digest format > 2) Group moderator can strip out attachments to > eliminate virus attacks > 3) Joining of the group may depend on moderator's > approval > 4) The first email from a member may also depend on moderator's > approval > 5) You can have more than one moderators > 6) Automatic archiving. > 7) Archives may be open to public (just like we have > it now) > 8) Allows members to hide their email addresses from > the group. However, if you hide your email address > then you are not allowed to take part in the polls and > you are not allowed to post messages via email > 9) Allows moderators to individually block members > > Other nice features available only if you have a yahoo > email account. These features can be controlled, as to > who edits them. (for example upload of files can be > done only by moderators etc..): > 10) Live chat with other members of the group > 11) Place to upload files > 12) Place to upload photos > 13) Place to store associated links (I have seen many > members ask the group about some website link they > lost) > 14) Place to create a Database... this feature can be > used for many things > 15) Place to hold polls > 16) Place to create a calendar of events > 17) There is some feature for promoting the group, but > I wonder if that costs something? > > 18) It is all free. > > I know a lot of people are going to resist getting a > yahoo email account, but I have had one for a long > time and I am very happy to say they are the best in > spam protection and not to mention... the inbox is > 100MB in size and it is free. > > I have setup a group already and since Mark likes > control :o) I don't mind making him a moderator. To > check out the group go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/krnet/ > > And.. no, I don't work for Yahoo neither do I own > stock in Yahoo... (hmm maybe I should?) > > Thanks > Ameet Savant > ameetsavant at yahoo dot com > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:42:48 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Oil Cooler Air System To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40E72858.000010.02716@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, I hope you are planning on flying in the winter time. KRs get very hot inside on a sunny day. "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 15:01:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Ameet Savant Subject: Re: KR> Yahoo groups feature list To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040703220159.4213.qmail@web60807.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii KRnetters, Before you lash out on me (like Larry here), please bear in mind a few things: 1) There is no need to get a new email address at yahoo to be able to use their groups. You don't even have to go to yahoo's website to look at the messages you can get it in your email inbox. Just like you do now. 2) I was merely listing the features of yahoo groups so that we (or our moderator) can use that information to compare with other groups to make a decision of moving if there is a need. 3) About the popup ads: There are no pop up ads if you receive the messages in your inbox. If you get popup ads they could be because of the ISP you are using or the possible existance of spyware on your system, I recently had to clean my computer due to spyware and I don't have any popup problems anymore. I also use Google toolbar to block popups and yes it is free to download and yes it is wonderful tool and no it does not have any advertisement. 4) I am not going to defend yahoo groups. but I am going to respond to people who don't have their facts straight. The fact is, I was researching the features and I informed all of you of them.. thats it. The fact is I have used yahoo for email and groups both with success. The fact is, to experience all the features of yahoo groups I created and tested the group that I sent you an email about. The fact is, I am not selling yahoo to you, just giving you information that you can use to make a decision and I hope the rest of you (Larry has already crossed the bridge) don't use this to attack me. Regards, Ameet Savant --- Larry A Capps wrote: > Please, stick it in your ear, pay to play like the > rest of us, their is no > free rides. Look how you stated your post, > "KRnetters", not Yahoo readers! > > Yahoo Groups is a joke, why waste your time. I'm > not putting up with > beginning part of the all American sucker list with > my email address again. > Also, the popup ads and ads which require you to > click through them to read > the next post is a joke. > > The problem "Mark Langford" has experienced, is but > one hiccup in many > months of useful service, and this type of service > is available at dozens of > other places. > > Larry A Capps > Naperville, IL __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:10:32 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Oil Cooler Air System To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00d901c4614a$8f68c9e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Heck Dan, I was planning on flying with the window open. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 4:42 PM Subject: Re: KR> Oil Cooler Air System > Mark, > > I hope you are planning on flying in the winter time. KRs get very > hot inside on a sunny day. > > "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for > building has long since expired." > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. > Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:15:22 -0500 From: "Larry A Capps" Subject: KR> Yahoo groups feature list To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000801c4614b$3bcc6930$0500a8c0@schpankme> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ameet, Stop pointing the finger at me, you went out and created the Yahoo Groups on your own. So far the response as been Negative to your idea. And here you come again. Frankly if the KRnet as a group wants to use an alternative method for KRNet Post Delivery, will vote on it, and will also vote on WHO it is that will control that information. To date, I see no problems with the current distribution method utilized by the KRNet; and I'm not willing to return to ANYTHING Yahoo provides and then denies without notice. Larry A Capps Naperville, IL -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Ameet Savant Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 5:02 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Yahoo groups feature list KRnetters, Before you lash out on me (like Larry here), please bear in mind a few things: 1) There is no need to get a new email address at yahoo to be able to use their groups. You don't even have to go to yahoo's website to look at the messages you can get it in your email inbox. Just like you do now. 2) I was merely listing the features of yahoo groups so that we (or our moderator) can use that information to compare with other groups to make a decision of moving if there is a need. 3) About the popup ads: There are no pop up ads if you receive the messages in your inbox. If you get popup ads they could be because of the ISP you are using or the possible existance of spyware on your system, I recently had to clean my computer due to spyware and I don't have any popup problems anymore. I also use Google toolbar to block popups and yes it is free to download and yes it is wonderful tool and no it does not have any advertisement. 4) I am not going to defend yahoo groups. but I am going to respond to people who don't have their facts straight. The fact is, I was researching the features and I informed all of you of them.. thats it. The fact is I have used yahoo for email and groups both with success. The fact is, to experience all the features of yahoo groups I created and tested the group that I sent you an email about. The fact is, I am not selling yahoo to you, just giving you information that you can use to make a decision and I hope the rest of you (Larry has already crossed the bridge) don't use this to attack me. Regards, Ameet Savant --- Larry A Capps wrote: > Please, stick it in your ear, pay to play like the > rest of us, their is no > free rides. Look how you stated your post, > "KRnetters", not Yahoo readers! > > Yahoo Groups is a joke, why waste your time. I'm > not putting up with > beginning part of the all American sucker list with > my email address again. > Also, the popup ads and ads which require you to > click through them to read > the next post is a joke. > > The problem "Mark Langford" has experienced, is but > one hiccup in many > months of useful service, and this type of service > is available at dozens of > other places. > > Larry A Capps > Naperville, IL __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 15:27:39 -0700 From: Alex Swavely Subject: Re: KR> Yahoo groups feature list To: KRnet Message-ID: <40E732DB.4000503@swavely.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Ameet Savant wrote: > It seems like yahoo has a lot more to offer as compared to our > present mailing list. Eh, not really.. See below: > The features of yahoo groups are: > > 1) Members can receive messages in single email or digest format > 2) Group moderator can strip out attachments to eliminate virus > attacks > 3) Joining of the group may depend on moderator's approval > 4) The first email from a member may also depend on moderator's > approval > 5) You can have more than one moderators > 6) Automatic archiving. > 7) Archives may be open to public (just like we have it now) > 8) Allows members to hide their email addresses from the group. > However, if you hide your email address then you are not allowed to > take part in the polls and you are not allowed to post messages via > email > 9) Allows moderators to individually block members All of those items are available in the Mailman software. But, you can still post messages via email with your address hidden by the list software, should you desire. In addition, the Mailman software offers the ability for the list admin(s) to administer the list entirely via email should they so desire. Or, entirely via the web interface. Other features it offers that Yahoo Groups does not include: * the ability to stand as a list to newsgroup (nntp) gateway. * ability to separate the roles of admin and moderator. * MIME digests (each message in the digest is a separate attachment, allowing you to easily reply to an individual message, several mail readers can use this feature to great advantage) The remainder of the features of Y!G (trimmed to save bandwidth) are redily available through other open-source portal software easily enough. The software, Mailman, is absolutely free. I run a copy on my personal server, and have used its nntp gatewaying feature at a previous job. (I also run a web portal for car enthusiasts). ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:29:29 -0500 From: "Steve and Lori McGee" Subject: Re: KR> Oil Cooler Air System To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002e01c4614d$34af5b60$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Looks good mark. I have not been able to get to the plane decently for better than a month now. I see now how these projects drag on for years. Steve M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" ; "Corvaircraft" Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 3:52 PM Subject: KR> Oil Cooler Air System > Hello All, > I have just completed my oil cooler air system. Here is a link to my > web page section on the air duct work: > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/scat.html > Let me know what you think. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 15:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Ameet Savant Subject: Re: KR> Yahoo groups feature list To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040703223403.17581.qmail@web60805.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Alex, Thanks for some fact based information. This should helps us all! Regards, Ameet Savant --- Alex Swavely wrote: > Ameet Savant wrote: > > It seems like yahoo has a lot more to offer as > compared to our > > present mailing list. > > Eh, not really.. See below: __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 18:45:55 -0400 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: Re: KR> want to unsubscribe? To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040703.184555.2712.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > It turns out that the subscriber list isn't what was four months > old, it's > the subscribers' settings that's four months old, so it's not as bad > as I > thought. Mark- When this first came up the other day I suspected you were in for at least a few rough days. I vote that You just get back to work (fun) on the KR. It's much better for the soul and your sanity than reading this dribble.There must be something left to sand. BTW-- There already is an alternate net in existance. It was set up over a year ago on I think Matt Daryl's server. I never unscuribed and get the digest message once a day.Some folks are using it as there are KR messages on it every week or two. Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 15:51:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Smith Subject: Re: KR>Yahoo Groups To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040703225158.36872.qmail@web81710.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii David Mullins wrote: Hi David, I have nothing to say about the taxes thing. I did want to ask you about your web site though. I haven't seen any changes in awhile and was wondering how you ere progressing, and if you were going to post some new pics. I liked your site very much. Ron Smith, God is in the details ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:09:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Smith Subject: KR> Stall warnings To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20040703230936.10826.qmail@web81701.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I searched the archives and didn't find to much on stall warnings and I haven't noticed too many people installing them. What is the consensus regarding them for KR projects. I have seen some low priced ones at wicks and A.S. I want to build light, but safety is a factor also. Any opinions? Ron Smith, God is in the details ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:00:33 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Stall warnings - didn't find to much on stall warnings To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40E748A1.000001.02956@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Problem is, where do you put it. How do you know the exact angle that your wing will stall? If you get it wrong, a bad warning is worse than no warning at all. I always believe that bad information is worse than no information. That may be why you don't read anything about it. "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 20:09:05 -0400 From: David Mullins Subject: KR> Website update/ Motivation To: KRnet Message-ID: <40E74AA1.3080006@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ron, I haven't done much since I was laid off from Raytheon just days before the 2002 Gathering. I promised everyone that I wold bring my bird then. I drove 30 hours each way to let you guys (& girls) see what I have been doing up to that point. The major reason for little progress is the uncertainty of my current workplace. It is a startup that I have been working at for the past 1.5 years. I am working as a "contractor" with no benefits at all. Plus, I get unscheduled "vacations." I just got a three day one last week because the business didn't have the money in the bank to pay me. I am looking for a second job to supplement this one and get some extra money to start my flight lessons. The business I work at is about to take off. We are working to close 4 accounts any one of which would put the company on its feet. That's why I'm trying to stay with them. I have only been puttering around the hangar with no real progress. Still been getting some of the other parts I need to make the two 190ci Corvair Engines. The first conversion was to mock up my firewall forward. I sold that engine on barnstormers a while back to a 601 builder. The money was to be used for the big boy machine work. However bills wiped out my plans to get the machine work done. (More unscheduled vacation) I have my own domain that I am in the process of moving to. I am finishing a new computer build this weekend and will do a major update to my web site at the new domain by the end of this month. (That's a promise) My domain is http//www.KR2S.com I can set some of you guys up with a forwarding Email at Yourname@KR2S.com It will forward to your real email address. I hope the next gathering in Mount Vernon will cure me of my motivational problems. The Last one started to, but fizzled in a few weeks. I need to see some of the NEW birds that have been finished. (I still like to see the older ones too) Dave Mullins Nashua, New Hampshire Ron Smith wrote: >David Mullins wrote: >Hi David, I have nothing to say about the taxes thing. I did want to >ask you about your web site though. I haven't seen any changes in >awhile and was wondering how you ere progressing, and if you were going >to post some new pics. I liked your site very much. > > > >Ron Smith, > >God is in the details > >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 17:12:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR> Stall warnings - didn't find to much on stall warnings To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040704001243.93514.qmail@web51401.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What do you all think about stall strips ala Piper and others. Some of the same issues would still be there, like where to place them on the leading edge radius for best results, but by studying several different type certificated planes and their use of stall strips, perhaps that wouldn't be to large a hurdle to overcome. Denny ... Dan Heath wrote: Problem is, where do you put it. How do you know the exact angle that your wing will stall? If you get it wrong, a bad warning is worse than no warning at all. I always believe that bad information is worse than no information. That may be why you don't read anything about it. "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 20:16:59 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Website update/ Motivation To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <40E74C7B.000005.02956@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" David, It is great to hear from you and we'll see you at the gathering. "There is a time for building and a time for flying, and the time for building has long since expired." See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 8 ************************************* ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================