From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 92 Date: 8/27/2004 8:59:41 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: PlussBuss (Dan Heath) 2. wing quistion (alphabravo pilot) 3. Inches of Mercury (Ron Freiberger) 4. sport aviation magazines on the kr (Flymaca711689@aol.com) 5. Re: Type 4 Engine Bulidup (Edward Seaman) 6. Re: Type 4 Engine Bulidup (Orma) 7. Re: wing quistion (Dan Heath) 8. Re: wing quistion (larry flesner) 9. Blower (Pat Driscoll) 10. Re: Blower (Mark Langford) 11. Re: Blower (Ballsofbugs@aol.com) 12. Blower (Pat Driscoll) 13. Re: Turbo KR operators (Rich Seifert) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 05:49:05 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> PlussBuss To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <412F0391.000013.03364@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Allen, Thank you. I imagined that they might have something like that, but I did not see one when I was at the store. I will check on it today. One of my concerns about using the copper wire was getting it into that tight space. This will be perfect. "There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the time for building has long since expired." See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- From: KRnet Date: 08/26/04 23:02:47 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> PlussBuss >I bought a couple of "barrier" bars from Radio Shack to >use for the >Hot Buss ( PlussBuss ). Is it OK to use >something like a #14 copper wire from a piece >of housing wire, to connect one side together? I'm not sure what you mean by "barrier" bars, But if you mean dual row barrier strips (R/S P/N's 274-656,8,9, & 670 for 2,4,6, & 8 position) then Radio Shack also has an 8-position jumper (P/N 274-650, $1.99). They can be shortened to the other sizes. Main advantage is that they are very flat and you can install terminals on top of them. I'm not sure, but the bigger stores may still carry them and they are available over the net. http://www.radioshack.com/category asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F011%5F003%5F009%5F000&Page=1 Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 & ex-RS store mgr. 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:07:09 +0000 From: "alphabravo pilot" Subject: KR> wing quistion To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi friends..hope all of you are fine and well My wing construction way is very clossed to edwardo barros ,and I got confused with an item that related with air pressuer and circulation between the empty areas that cuased by ribs in the both wing. My quistions are : 1- Do I have to make holes through the ribs all the way from the root antill the tip ? 2- what will be the dia of those holes? thanks and best regards Nasser AL www.uaespaces.com _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 10:06:52 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: KR> Inches of Mercury To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One-half is close enough for us horseshoe pitchers. Normal atmospheric pressure is about 30 inches of mercury or 14.7 psi (aka 15) . Orma's 5 inches of boost was 2.5 psi ( aka pounds) Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger at swfla.rr.com > Did you say 15 lbs of boost? > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:36:27 EDT From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: KR> sport aviation magazines on the kr To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1ee.28fb4e36.2e5fbfeb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" HI all this is the complete list on the Kr. some are posted on don reids site but just a couple I have some but I love to read Kr stuff maybe we can find out who's got what and send it to don to up date his site. some are pretty cool i have tom crawfords 7 pages !!!! just a thought what do you guys think thats alot of good reading mac n1055a 20010771Sport AviationVirtual Creation: A new airfoil for the KR-2S (5 pgs) 20010767Sport AviationOne in a Two: Pete Rafferty makes more room in his KR-2 (4 pgs) 20010798Sport AviationBill Gaudlip's KR-2 (photo & caption) 20001294Sport AviationDavid Feiger's KR-2 (photo & caption) 20001137ExperimenterEngine Q & A: Considering VW motor for KR-2 990242Sport AviationTom Crawford's KR-2 (7 pages w/ color photos) 9902122Sport AviationBryson KR-2S, nose wheel, 2180 VW (photo & caption) 950922Sport AviationA Couple of KR's - Fixed Gears Are Now The Choice Of KR Builders 950631Sport AviationTaildragger and tri-gear at Sun `n Fun `95 (Photo and Caption only) 940766Sport AviationMarsh stretched fuselage on 2S 940478Sport AviationGear door prevents lowering gear 9403108Sport AviationDaniel KR-2 w/trigear 9401100Sport AviationKewley KR-2 w/fixed trigear, VW 931036Sport AviationSubaru 1800cc with Ross planetary reduction 930738Sport AviationKR-2S stretched, tri-gear 930395Sport AviationRutan KR-2 with fixed gear, sliding canopy 930235ExperimenterBeware of fuel valve location 930110Sport AviationDiehl KR fixed gear recall 930128Sport AviationCarroll KR-2, "Dumbo" with full electric, VW 9210118Sport AviationVan Deen Heuval S. Africa KR, fixed gear 920992Sport AviationRosenau Firebird - modified KR-2 920795Sport AviationHunter KR-2 w/Revmaster 2100 920493Sport AviationToth KR-2 w/tri-gear 910906Sport AviationMiller fixed gear KR-2 910938ExperimenterSvarre/Jensen Danish modified KR-2 910714Sport AviationAircraft Spruce exclusive distributor 910310Sport AviationKR computer bulletin board 910180Sport AviationGoudeau KR-2 with fixed gear, Glasair canopy, etc 9011102Sport AviationVaughn KR-2 with Limbach 2000U, 80hp 9007102Sport AviationToth KR-2 w/Revmaster 2100-D 900657Sport AviationLam KR-2 - Full Span Flaps & Spoilers 900359Sport AviationChase KR-2 - VW 2 Liter Engine & Fixed Gear 891131Sport AviationSummary of KR-2 Accidents - Canadian 891056Sport AviationLouie Brochetti Fixed Gear KR-2 881196Sport AviationSteeves KR-2 - Good Performer with 2180 cc VW 880748Sport AviationDolph Overtons KR-21 880709Sport AviationKR-100 (100 hp, Fixed Gear Verson of KR2) 880496Sport AviationSkiles KR-2, With T18 Canopy 880338ExperimenterDisconnected Trim Tab Causes Crash 880138Sport AviationDesign Analysis - KR-2 8710104Sport AviationRoberts Highly Modified KR-2 with 0290 870911Sport AviationKR Fixed Gear and Hydraulic Brake Kit 870543Sport AviationIrish KR-2 Stretched 11-1/4" 870546Sport AviationSpeed Brake for KR-2 870297Sport AviationVan Tassel KR-2 Fixed, Spatted Gear, Lyc. 65 HP 870196Sport AviationEd Fernandez KR-2 861239Sport AviationEffect of Weight on Aircraft Performance 861197Sport AviationJones KR-2 with 1600cc VW 860939Light Plane WorldGear Collapses on KR-2 860808Sport AviationRand Robinson Moves (NOTE) 860439Light Plane WorldFlight Inexperience Causes KR-2 Crash 860354Sport AviationInstalling Limbach Engine in KR-2 860390Sport AviationMike Lamb's Tri-Gear KR-2 860306Sport AviationNew KR Coming - Larger, with 100 HP 860245Sport AviationEldridge KR-2, Elliptical Wing Tips, HAPI VW 850968Sport AviationForming a Windshield 850967Sport AviationMaking a Laminated Windshow Bow (or any other bow); Laying up a Fiberglass Turtledeck 850808Sport AviationFixed Gear Version 850654Sport AviationJohn Stoltz Tri-Gear 850654Sport AviationJohn Shaffer's Tri-Gear 850543Sport AviationMcClain KR-2 With Many Changes 850307Sport AviationKR-2 Wing and Tail Surface Skins Developed 841226Sport AviationPaul Scoville's Turbo Revmaster KR-2 840954Sport AviationDonald Moore's KR-2 built for easy maintenance 831220Sport AviationLarry Montgomery's KR-2 with Duty 1834 VW 831082Sport AviationFuel Dissolves Epoxy Fuel Tank 830854Sport AviationGarveriek KR-2 with 1800cc VW 830534Sport AviationRiibe KR-2 with Sliding Canopy and 1835 HAPI engine 830318Sport AviationJohanson KR-2 with Raised Turtle Deck and Gull-Wing Doors 830319Sport AviationBalfour KR-2 Two-Place Tandem Version 820826Sport AviationBrian Henneman's KR-2 820536Sport AviationSmith KR-2 with A-75 and Winglets 820357Sport AviationPrice KR-2 with Long Wings, 64 gallon fuel 820107Sport AviationTri-gear, Retract, Available for KR-2 820123Sport AviationLarson KR-2 with Revmaster 1834cc 810142Sport AviationGB-1 KR-2 Similar 800738Sport AviationThe Diehl KR-2 791208Sport AviationDefective Main Gear Casting 790946Sport AviationKR-2 with Steel Tube Fuselage and Flaperons 790559Sport AviationKR-2 with Walter Mikron In-Line Engine 780710Sport AviationA Long-legged and Fast KR-2 780748Sport AviationKR-2 With Flaps 780328Sport AviationTri-Gear Version 760454Sport AviationTurbo KR-2 750339Sport AviationThe KR-2 (Article and Cover) 750342Sport AviationWicks Organ KR-2 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:38:21 +0100 (BST) From: Edward Seaman Subject: Re: KR> Type 4 Engine Bulidup To: KRnet Message-ID: <20040827183821.2598.qmail@web25308.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey Orma I am really pleased for you - I check my mail 3x daily hoping to hear some more. I suspect you will crack it over the weekend - unless you actually need to change something (for a bigger something). I will copy what you have done so I am all ears (except I will drive of the other end of the VW). Good luck Ed ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:17:28 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Type 4 Engine Bulidup To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001201c48c72$e0befd70$442bd445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Net and Ed Thanks for the encouragement. Today was a good day. Before going home yesterday I decided to scrap the square box manifold that was connecting the two pipes on top of the engine. At that point I started to construct a divider made of two 90 degree bends that are joined at one end giving a total end circumference of 2" to mate with 2' tubing. Each end of the bend going to the respective left or right manifold on the head. This morning I got the parts welded and went to the hanger to sever the square box manifold and join the new diverter to the system. After a few cuts to the old pipes, the addition of a few hoses and clamps, the engine was ready to restart. The engine seemed to run just as well, except that the extreme temperature spread between the left and right side was not as great. I decided to put the cowling on and see if the baffles would change the over heating condition. I'm happy to say that I have solved one problem and now on to the next issue. The cylinders were still very warm, except that there was no tendency for the #4 cylinder to run away, and actually the #3 cylinder was the hottest, which is usually the case and the temp spread for #'s 1,3 & 4 was no greater then 50. The #2 was cool and 100 Degrees lower then the others. I ran max power for over 7 minutes and never exceeded 410 degrees. My baffles were cut apart to fit the new pipes. I feel that once I remake them tomorrow, my engine will cool fine even on the ground on a day like today, 86 degrees and humid. My oil cooler is another issue. It is located in the factory position for type 2-4 engines and needs to have air deflected down into the cooling fins. I also plan to do this tomorrow. The next issue is the temp of the turbo locked inside the cowling. the skin was too hot to lay your hand on and leave it there. I plan to now look for some insulation material to protect the cowling. Suggestions are welcome. Some commercial aircraft use insulation blankets in the real hot areas. As for boosting, the gate is still wired shut and the engine was able to boost to 29.00" hg and the BP was 29.50. Once the baffles are tight I plan to play with the waste gate. If I have time tomorrow I will add a controllable cable to the gate to operate it from the cockpit. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR celebrating 20 years To the gathering or bust ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:24:01 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> wing quistion To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <412FA671.000001.03032@COMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 1. You should 2. Any that you like "There is a time for building and a time for GOING TO THE GATHERING, and the time for building has long since expired." See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering http://KRGathering.org See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- My quistions are : 1- Do I have to make holes through the ribs all the way from the root antill the tip ? 2- what will be the dia of those holes? ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:28:21 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> wing quistion To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040827172821.007b6840@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > My quistions are : > 1- Do I have to make holes through the ribs all the way from the >root antill the tip ? > 2- what will be the dia of those holes? > Nasser AL ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Nasser, It's best not to have any closed compartments inside the wing as the air pressure changes with altitude can cause pressure to build. As these areas are sealed with the atmosphere pressure at the building site they will build pressure in flight and might cause a problem. The reality is it would be very hard to build areas that are complete sealed. Any small hole of 1/4" or just a few MM would be more than enough. Beyond that don't worry about it. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:33:50 -0500 From: "Pat Driscoll" Subject: KR> Blower To: "KR Mailing list" Message-ID: <002a01c48c96$b126a760$088dd440@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How the +*&%$*& do you get the blower fan off the top of the engine? I just got hold of a 110 HP 64 engine. I need to get the blower off to check the crank number. I know I can take off the entire top but I don't like to be beaten by a simple piece of machinery. I see nothing in the blow up of the engine in the book that shows what holds it down. Pat Driscoll patrick36@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:51:45 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Blower To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00f401c48c99$3feabd90$1202a8c0@basement> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Pat Driscoll wrote: > How the +*&%$*& do you get the blower fan off the top of the engine? I don't claim to be a Corvair expert, but I think you need a press to get the actual blower off of the bearing which is pressed into that housing. I think most people just take the housing off an go with their lives, without feeling defeated... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:41:37 EDT From: Ballsofbugs@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Blower To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1e8.28f7e06c.2e613cd1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" It is pressed on Jim May ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:47:20 -0500 From: "Pat Driscoll" Subject: KR> Blower To: "KR Mailing list" Message-ID: <001201c48ca9$597332a0$3640d240@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks guys, I saw that the blower bearing was pressed in but in the "blow up" it looked like the fan was attached to the bearing after the bearing was pressed in. Now I don't feel bad about taking the whole top off. Pat Driscoll patrick36@usfamily.net Saint Paul, MN ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:19:56 -0700 From: "Rich Seifert" Subject: Re: KR> Turbo KR operators To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002901c48cad$e4791d70$6501a8c0@richard> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Orma I've only seen a few Turb installations besides my own and they have all been the same as mine. I use a draw through system and control boost by throttle alone. The turbo must be properly sized to be effective. I have 560 hours on my installation and would not bother with other methods unless you plan to let a lot of inexperianced pilots fly your machine. Blowoff systems would be my last choice because of the danger of fire. It works for me! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orma" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: KR> Turbo KR operators Hello Net As I requested yesterday, I would also like to hear from all operators that have a homebuilt plane with a Volkswagen with a turbo. I want to know how you use and or control the boost in your plane. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR celebrating 20 years To the gathering or bust ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 346, Issue 92 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================