From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 298, Issue 1 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Takin a break (Dan Heath) 2. RE: Takin a break (Dana Overall) 3. Re: UV Smooth Prime (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 4. Re: UV Smooth Prime (Brian Kraut) 5. Re: UV Smooth Prime (Dan Heath) 6. Re: Cost of IFR radios? (Ross Youngblood) 7. Informal get-together (Dana Overall) 8. Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant (Dan Heath) 9. Re: Informal get-together (Dan Heath) 10. Fw: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant (Norm Seel) 11. Fw: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant (Norm Seel) 12. Rotary for KR (Dana Overall) 13. Re: Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant (joe) 14. Re: Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:25:06 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR>Takin a break Message-ID: <401C1D32.000008.04064@Computer> Content-Type: Text/Plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 Well, I know that you cannot wet sand smooth prime, but it was killing my back trying to get the mountains off the side of the fuselage, so I decid= ed that I had nothing to loose.=0D =0D It is a bit messy, but no dust and the junk comes off real easy compared = to dry sanding. I see no difference in the result.=0D =0D If anyone knows of any disasters that I may face in the future for WET sanding smooth prime, let me know, so I can be ready for it.=0D =0D Until then, it is NO DUST for me. =0D =0D And for now, it is back to the hills for me.=0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:55:46 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR>Takin a break Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 2 Dan, you stand a real chance of the remaining Smooth Prime peeling off like sunburn skin. It does happen when you reintroduce water to Smooth Prime. This was always an issue I brought up in all the Smooth Prime forums I put on. Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit Buying Instruments. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive >From: "Dan Heath" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "krnet@mylist.net" >Subject: KR>Takin a break >Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:25:06 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) > >Well, I know that you cannot wet sand smooth prime, but it was killing >my back trying to get the mountains off the side of the fuselage, so I >decided that I had nothing to loose. > >It is a bit messy, but no dust and the junk comes off real easy >compared to dry sanding. I see no difference in the result. > >If anyone knows of any disasters that I may face in the future for WET >sanding smooth prime, let me know, so I can be ready for it. > >Until then, it is NO DUST for me. > >And for now, it is back to the hills for me. > >See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > >DanRH@KR-Builder.org > >See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > >See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > >_______________________________________ >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! http://shopping.msn.com/softcontent/softcontent.aspx?scmId=1418 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:08:52 -0500 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>UV Smooth Prime Message-ID: <20040131.200852.2540.0.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Dan I was less than thrilled with the stuff as well. I tried using a squeegee, a roller. a brush, and a body filler spreader. I put 6 coats on and sanded everyone. I even sprayed it as well. Don't remember which method worked best but I'd really look at other products if starting over. Today I got done resealing the 2100 as it has been lking oil for the last 3 yrs. Good Luck! On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 07:34:00 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) "Dan Heath" writes: > I have applied this stuff for the last time. I have almost removed, > almost > all of it for the last time. Better than 95% of it will end up in my > Shop > Vac. This stuff creates more pin holes than it fills. I now remember > why I > didn't like it when I applied it to the bottom of the plane, over a > year ago > > > I may try an experiment with the remaining stuff by thinning it out > so it > will flow and see if it does any filling, but other than that, this > is way > too expensive to send to the trash pile. It took me about an hour to > apply > 16 oz of it and I have over 2 hours in sanding it off. You can't wet > sand it > so the dust it terrible. > > The bottom line for me with UV Smooth prime is a big thumbs down. > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:14:47 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Brian Kraut To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>UV Smooth Prime Message-ID: <24344435.1075598088360.JavaMail.root@waldorf.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 I figured out a few things when I primed my plane with Smooth Prime. First, sand it with 3M Sandblaster paper. This stuff is incredible. It does a great job, takes forever to wear out, and most importantly, it doesn't clog like all the other sandpapers I have used. I used 150 at first, then switched to 220 on the primer. I also use the Sandblaster paper on everything else I sanded with equally good results. The other thing I figured out, of course on my last few parts that I was priming, is that you have to get rid of the bubbles before the last coat of primer. The reason you get pin holes is because there are small bubbles in the primer. The bubbles never pop and you wind up with a small crater with a very thin dry bubble top on it after the primer is dry. If you just put another coat on top of it you still have the bubble underneath. You can put on five coats, but as soon as you sand you take off the tops of the bubbles and are left with the craters. Then you have to sand all the way down to get rid of the craters and of course you take off all the primer doing that. What I did that worked very good is to roll on as many coats as I needed minus one coat. After it fully dired I sanded just a little bit with 150 paper to get all the bubbles popped. Then, very important, remove all the sanding dust and go over the surface once with a tack cloth to make sure all the dust is gone. They you apply one last thinned coat. The last thinned coat fills the craters so you have a lot less sanding to do when you are done. I suppose that you could try sanding a little every other coat, or the last two coats, but I was almost done when I discoverd this and sanding just before the last coat worked very good for me. One other thing I tried when I was out of primer and had just a few very small scratches to fill was to take a bunch of smooth prime dust, mix it with water, then roll it on. This was a failed experiment. It just turned back to dust after the water dried out of it. I guess that there is some right solvent that can make dust back into usable primer again, but I don't know what it is. Dan Heath wrote: I have applied this stuff for the last time. I have almost removed, almost all of it for the last time. Better than 95% of it will end up in my Shop Vac. This stuff creates more pin holes than it fills. I now remember why I didn't like it when I applied it to the bottom of the plane, over a year ago I may try an experiment with the remaining stuff by thinning it out so it will flow and see if it does any filling, but other than that, this is way too expensive to send to the trash pile. It took me about an hour to apply 16 oz of it and I have over 2 hours in sanding it off. You can't wet sand it so the dust it terrible. The bottom line for me with UV Smooth prime is a big thumbs down. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:23:59 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>UV Smooth Prime Message-ID: <401C633F.000017.04064@Computer> References: <20040131.200852.2540.0.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: Text/Plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 Kenneth,=0D =0D What did you do to seal your 2100? =0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:16:58 -0800 From: Ross Youngblood To: tbsr@arctic.net, KRnet Subject: Re: KR>Cost of IFR radios? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4018FA51.5921771E@arctic.net> References: <4018FA51.5921771E@arctic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: list Message: 6 I believe it is better to buy a plane already IFR certified, it's cheaper. Also the older radios are way obsolete, the newer equipment is much easier to use, but possibly more expensive. For example, a Garmin 430 GPS was the cats meow, I haven't been tracking the new replacement, but they have come down. They are lighter weight, and do a lot more. King has some nice GPS units, but by far the best stuff in my opinion is *anything* that has a moving map. Most of the moving map stuff is not "legal" for IFR approaches, you are supposed to fly the Glideslope, or VOR navaids in most cases. Depends on where you live to some degree. For example, in Phoenix, I flew in a flying club Mooney that had just been equipped with a UPS moving map (now Garmin). I flew into Montgomery field using VOR and the GPS unit on approach, thinking that all my equipment was IFR legal. Turns out that if I had relied on the GPS only, I would have been busting regs, as the unit was only certified for VFR only. Mainly because it requires a IFR checkride for the radio shop, somthing that they don't do in Phoenix unless you pay extra $$. I talked to the folks at Pacific Coast Avionics here in Oregon about a Garmin upgrade, was plane shopping but it never panned out. They told me that if I did an upgrade, I would need a second set of radios, otherwise your plane is out of service for a long time, as although they can install, and IFR flight check the plane, it was taking weeks or months to get the FAA paperwork back from the FSDO. In Oregon, if you don't have IFR equipment outside summertime, you can be grounded due to weather often. Another factor in higher cost IFR certified planes is the mission profile. Many IFR planes are used (in theory) by businessmen, who want to travel faster, so you will see the higher costs. Once tempted by an autopilot, for example, you will want an IFR plane that has one. It will most often ALWAYS cost you more to have IFR equipment installed in a plane, than to find one with the equipment already installed, unless it was just done as part of the sale. This is known as Murphies law. You see an ad price for an install, ferry your plane to where-ever the installer is, and pay for the installation. Then, a month after the install, you notice that one of your pannel instruments, isn't quite working, or that one of your other radios goes out. (An installer in the Phoenix area, let metal flakes get into one of the King RNAV radios in the club Mooney when the Moving map was installed.) This was a bummer when we determined that with the RNAV radio out, the plane could not be flown IFR, as the GPS stack replaced the COM1/NAV1 radios, and the backup RNAV/VOR was the unit that made the plane IFR legal. No matter that it was probably safer to use the UPS GPS than to fiddle with the knobs and program RNAV waypoints. The downtime was a bummer, as I liked flying the Mooney. The parts shop may have helped pay for the repairs, but the flying club, and the investor who owned the plane, and just paid for the GPS upgrade, lost money, as the club couldn't fly the IFR that month, but the investor still had to make his loan payment. The other factor, in my opinion, is that the avionics industry, is FINALLY moving out of the 1930's and away from the old steam gauge VOR needle sets and to the moving map displays. This means that after you go through all the fun, and trouble of learning VOR/RNAV IFR enroute and approach flying, you will really want to have a moving map. This makes the older avionics less desirable, and possibly cheaper. However, if they fail, it may be cheaper to replace them with new stuff. I don't own an IFR plane, so I can't really comment on the expense. For my rental & future planned KR2 flying, I have a moving map GPS/COM handheld (GPS190) that I use. If a NAV fails in a rental aircraft, I would have a backup, or if a COM fails. Also, when I flew IFR in the club Mooneys, I had it yoke mounted, and it would readout ETA. If I had a major electrical failure it would be my backup and is a good way to maintain situational awareness in IFR. I work with computers, and enjoy interperting the VOR needles, but believe that it is all to easy to get 180 out and not notice it for a bit. Harder to do with a moving map. All this is my opinion. If you can it would be fun to pick and choose what avionics to plug into your Cessna 150/172 or Cherokee 140. But the labor to have it installed, and the time you will be away from your new airplane may be hard to dealwith... unless it's winter time, and you can't fly anyway. -- Ross On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 03:19:31 -0900, Thomas Brock wrote: > I'm looking at a lot of planes but have noticed the higher > cost of aircraft that are IFR certified. I know that the sky > is the limit on avionics equipment, but there must be some low > end ball park figure on the cost or value of radios to meet > the minimum IFR certified requirement. So my question is: > about how much (little) would a person have to spend to > upgrade a VFR C150, 172, or Cherokee 140 to an IFR certified > aircraft? How valuable or how much value does IFR capability > add to a small aircraft? Is it usually less expensive to buy > an airplane that is already IFR certified OR is it less costly > to buy the IFR equipment after you buy your VFR small plane? > > Thanks much for your replies. Thomas > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 08:41:56 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Informal get-together Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 7 This is a post that went out this morning..........This get together IS NOT an RV get-together. It is just to have some fun and tell some airplane lies. Anyone and everyone is welcome. Great chance to maybe share some valuable information or learn some of the same. OK, since it is the first of February I’ll repost info about the little get together at my shop on Saturday, February 28th. I sent emails out to the various RVlists, the Ohio Valley RVators group, the local EAA, a composite airplane builder’s site and just a bunch of ol airplane friends. The Ohio Valley RVators are using this particular Saturday as an “official” UFO (Ultimate Fly Out). In addition, Tracy Crook has faxed me some info on his Rotary packages. Along this same line, I have spoke with Conversion Concepts http://www.conversionconcepts.com/rv-6-7.htm about attending. This is the company I am going with for my custom-built engine mount. I’ll have my rotary 13B there for anyone to criticize or as an impetus to slap me around for making such a choice. For what it’s worth here is a pic of the state of my 7: http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg I drafted my oldest son and recruited another 17 year old to act as taxi drivers, or designated drivers, from the airport or to and from hotels if you choose to partake in the keg and hooters wings I will provide. They will haul you around for tips. My shop door leads into my office, which leads to a bathroom, which leads to the game room with pool table, fridge and big screen TV. Certainly if you want to drive, there are numerous hotels within 10 minutes of my house. If the weather is nice enough, I’ll roll the airplane out to make more room in the shop. I’ve got the “From the ground up series on VHS and Team RVs Sun & Fun plus Great Northwest Adventure DVDs. I also have a professionally done production of a national gathering of the composite airplane when I was the national gathering host in 1999 & 2000. I’ll have these running on a TV in the shop and on the HD big screen. In my shop I have everything from a pneumatic squeezer to pneumatic cleco remover (for sale to anyone attending, great for the wings), my battery powered Dynon, Garmin 430 and Grand Rapids EIS for any newbees to see. If any newbees want to play with some tools you don’t have, feel free to grad a piece of scrap alum and work to your heart’s content. There will also be fiberglass people there with a wealth of glass knowledge to share. I’ve still got a bunch of carbon fiber laying around you can play with along with some West System. My address is 1036 Countryside Drive, Richmond, KY. It is about 10 minutes off I-75 and about 20 miles south of Lexington, KY. Mapquest will get you to within two houses…………then look for the RV sitting in the driveway:-). Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit Rotary 13B. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 08:44:21 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant Message-ID: <401D02B5.000023.04064@Computer> Content-Type: Text/Plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 8 If you haven't already seen this, you need to take a look. Serge was kind= to share his work with us in a very nice presentation. The documentation is terrific and the pictures are great. He provided us with a PowerPoint presentation that you can download by clicking on the link in the upper right corner.=0D =0D If you get so excited about seeing the pictures up close and personal, th= at you forget to read his documentation, I have provided you with a link in = the lower middle of the header for you to get it back.=0D =0D Take a look at: http://kr-builder.org/ThrottleQuadrant/index.html=0D =0D There is also a link on our home page, right below the weight and balance links.=0D =0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =20 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 08:46:53 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>Informal get-together Message-ID: <401D034D.000025.04064@Computer> References: Content-Type: Text/Plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 9 Well, Dana, I suppose you will be flying that 7 to the gathering this yea= r. That RV is going together fast. =0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet=0D Date: Sunday, February 01, 2004 8:42:18 AM=0D To: krnet@mylist.net=0D Subject: KR>Informal get-together=0D =0D This is a post that went out this morning..........This get together IS N= OT=0D an RV get-together. It is just to have some fun and tell some airplane=0D lies. Anyone and everyone is welcome. Great chance to maybe share some=0D valuable information or learn some of the same.=0D =0D =0D =0D OK, since it is the first of February I=92ll repost info about the little= get=0D together at my shop on Saturday, February 28th.=0D =0D I sent emails out to the various RVlists, the Ohio Valley RVators group, = the=0D local EAA, a composite airplane builder=92s site and just a bunch of ol=0D airplane friends. The Ohio Valley RVators are using this particular=0D Saturday as an =93official=94 UFO (Ultimate Fly Out).=0D =0D In addition, Tracy Crook has faxed me some info on his Rotary packages.=0D Along this same line, I have spoke with Conversion Concepts=0D http://www.conversionconcepts.com/rv-6-7.htm about attending. This is the= =0D company I am going with for my custom-built engine mount. I=92ll have my=0D rotary 13B there for anyone to criticize or as an impetus to slap me arou= nd=0D for making such a choice.=0D =0D For what it=92s worth here is a pic of the state of my 7:=0D http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg=0D =0D I drafted my oldest son and recruited another 17 year old to act as taxi=0D drivers, or designated drivers, from the airport or to and from hotels if= =0D you choose to partake in the keg and hooters wings I will provide. They=0D will haul you around for tips. My shop door leads into my office, which=0D leads to a bathroom, which leads to the game room with pool table, fridge= =0D and big screen TV. Certainly if you want to drive, there are numerous=0D hotels within 10 minutes of my house. If the weather is nice enough, I=92= ll=0D roll the airplane out to make more room in the shop. I=92ve got the =93Fr= om the=0D ground up series on VHS and Team RVs Sun & Fun plus Great Northwest=0D Adventure DVDs. I also have a professionally done production of a nationa= l=0D gathering of the composite airplane when I was the national gathering hos= t=0D in 1999 & 2000. I=92ll have these running on a TV in the shop and on the = HD=0D big screen.=0D =0D In my shop I have everything from a pneumatic squeezer to pneumatic cleco= =0D remover (for sale to anyone attending, great for the wings), my battery=0D powered Dynon, Garmin 430 and Grand Rapids EIS for any newbees to see. If= =0D any newbees want to play with some tools you don=92t have, feel free to g= rad a=0D piece of scrap alum and work to your heart=92s content. There will also b= e=0D fiberglass people there with a wealth of glass knowledge to share. I=92ve= =0D still got a bunch of carbon fiber laying around you can play with along w= ith=0D some West System.=0D =0D My address is 1036 Countryside Drive, Richmond, KY. It is about 10 minute= s=0D off I-75 and about 20 miles south of Lexington, KY. Mapquest will get you= =0D to within two houses=85=85=85=85then look for the RV sitting in the drive= way:-).=0D =0D =0D Dana Overall=0D 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host=0D Richmond, KY=0D RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"=0D Finish kit=0D Rotary 13B. Hangar flying my Dynon.=0D http://rvflying.tripod.com=0D do not archive=0D =0D _________________________________________________________________=0D Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN.=0D http://wine.msn.com/=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________=0D to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net=0D please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html=0D =2E ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:07:57 -0800 From: "Norm Seel" To: "Krnet" Subject: Fw: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant Message-ID: <001301c3e8ee$52ba2fe0$a4c12304@dslverizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 10 Wholesale Tool Co has a nice assortment of knobs for throttle. Norm http://www.wttool.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:44 AM Subject: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant If you haven't already seen this, you need to take a look. Serge was kind to share his work with us in a very nice presentation. The documentation is terrific and the pictures are great. He provided us with a PowerPoint presentation that you can download by clicking on the link in the upper right corner. If you get so excited about seeing the pictures up close and personal, that you forget to read his documentation, I have provided you with a link in the lower middle of the header for you to get it back. Take a look at: http://kr-builder.org/ThrottleQuadrant/index.html There is also a link on our home page, right below the weight and balance links. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:38:59 -0800 From: "Norm Seel" To: "Krnet" Subject: Fw: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant Message-ID: <003901c3e8f2$a8631020$a4c12304@dslverizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 11 You will need to order their catalog. Norm > Wholesale Tool Co has a nice assortment of knobs for throttle. Norm > http://www.wttool.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc > > Take a look at: http://kr-builder.org/ThrottleQuadrant/index.html > >> > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:24:36 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Rotary for KR Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 12 I've spent some time and took off all the "stuff" on this 13B that I don't need for aviation conversion. I'll be adding the water pump assembly to the right side in this pic and the flywheel in front of the counterbalance on the left side along with a highly modified intake. Here is the "combustion" section of the engine. What you are looking at are the twin rotors that will generate 180HP, and what would be intake valves, exhaust valves and pistons jugs on a horizontally opposed engine. The tape measure at the bottom is locked in at 12":-) http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg Man, if we could find one for a KR........... Course the KR now has the corvair. The issue I had was using a big block to get 180HP was just way too heavy. This is my cat's meow:-) Dan, flying it to the gathering may just be stretching it a little too tight. I'll try though!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host Richmond, KY RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com do not archive _________________________________________________________________ Let the new MSN Premium Internet Software make the most of your high-speed experience. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:53:58 -0800 From: "joe" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant Message-ID: <001a01c3e8f4$c004a520$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> References: <401D02B5.000023.04064@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 13 I know I have probably missed something discussed in previous emails but, is there a mixture, throttle combination I can't see? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:44 AM Subject: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant If you haven't already seen this, you need to take a look. Serge was kind to share his work with us in a very nice presentation. The documentation is terrific and the pictures are great. He provided us with a PowerPoint presentation that you can download by clicking on the link in the upper right corner. If you get so excited about seeing the pictures up close and personal, that you forget to read his documentation, I have provided you with a link in the lower middle of the header for you to get it back. Take a look at: http://kr-builder.org/ThrottleQuadrant/index.html There is also a link on our home page, right below the weight and balance links. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC DanRH@KR-Builder.org See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:59:59 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" To: "krnet@mylist.net" Subject: Re: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant Message-ID: <401D4CAF.000003.03740@Computer> References: <001a01c3e8f4$c004a520$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: Text/Plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 14 This is only the throttle. Contact Serge as he may have ideas about addin= g mixture. =0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: KRnet=0D Date: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:52:52 PM=0D To: KRnet=0D Subject: Re: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant=0D =0D I know I have probably missed something discussed in previous emails but,= is=0D there a mixture, throttle combination I can't see?=0D =0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "Dan Heath" =0D To: =0D Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:44 AM=0D Subject: KR>Serge Vidal's Throttle Quadrant=0D =0D =0D If you haven't already seen this, you need to take a look. Serge was kind= to=0D share his work with us in a very nice presentation. The documentation is=0D terrific and the pictures are great. He provided us with a PowerPoint=0D presentation that you can download by clicking on the link in the upper=0D right corner.=0D =0D If you get so excited about seeing the pictures up close and personal, th= at=0D you forget to read his documentation, I have provided you with a link in = the=0D lower middle of the header for you to get it back.=0D =0D Take a look at: http://kr-builder.org/ThrottleQuadrant/index.html=0D =0D There is also a link on our home page, right below the weight and balance= =0D links.=0D =0D =0D See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics=0D =0D Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC=0D =0D DanRH@KR-Builder.org=0D =0D See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering=0D =0D See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org=0D =0D =0D =0D _______________________________________=0D to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net=0D please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________=0D to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net=0D please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html=0D =2E ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 298, Issue 1 *************************************