From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 306, Issue 2 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge (Ron Freiberger) 2. Re: Masking Tape (Wayne Israelsen) 3. RE: Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge (Mark Jones) 4. RE: Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge (Mark Jones) 5. g limits (larry flesner) 6. Alum Fuel Lines and Flared ends (larry flesner) 7. Re: Alum Fuel Lines and Flared ends (Ron Eason) 8. G rating (larry flesner) 9. RE: Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge (Serge F. Vidal) 10. Re: new guy here! (larry severson) 11. RE: Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge (Ray Fuenzalida) 12. RE: Fuel Gauge (Jack Cooper) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:51:22 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC20190293B@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 1 Manifold "pressure" is conventionally measured is Inches of mercury, 0 to 30. If it's AIRCRAFT, it's more expensive. And 2.25 inch diameter, and nice looking. If you go to PepBoys, and buy one for your CAR, it'll be cheaper. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:10 AM To: KR Net Subject: Re: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge >OK folks this might be the dummest question but... >Is a vacuum gauge going from 30" of vacuum down to 0" the same as a >manifold pressure gauge going from 0" of pressure up to 30". If so, and >it's just a dial face change, why are the latter so much more >expensive. See, for example, in the Aircraft Spruce catalog (mine is >old at >1998-1999): No, the two gauges are not the same. A vacuum gauge is measured in inches of mercury and uses an internal bourdon tube which flexes and contracts with pressure changes and is what a standard pressure gauge uses to measure pressure. A manifold pressure gauge measures inches of water which is a very low pressure and incorporates a diaphragm to make the measurement and is calibrated accordingly. Now, if you really want to save money, my company sells every type of pressure gauge you can think of and we have 63mm (2 1/2") 0-30" hg gauges for $25 each. These are all stainless steel case, panel mount held in place by a U-clamp. Mark Jones (N886MJ Wales, WI _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 07:47:30 -0800 From: "Wayne Israelsen" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Masking Tape Message-ID: <004001c3ef24$08e21040$6701a8c0@HISPEEDWIRELESS.COM> References: <005101c3ee3b$0140a200$0900a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Jim Try vegetable oil, other stronger solvents will work faster but they may damage the plexi. DON'T use OOPs or GOOF OFF these will damage plastic for sure. Thanks Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: JIM VANCE To: krnet Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 3:51 AM Subject: KR>Masking Tape I found some masking tape on the front side of my windshield bow that has been there for over a year. It's hard to get to and it is thoroughly dried out. What's a good way to remove this dried tape that won't ruin the painted surface underneath or damage the Plexiglas windshield? Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:07:47 -0600 From: Mark Jones To: "'rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com'" , 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC20190293E@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3 Thanks Ron/Kenneth for the correction. Inches of mercury for manifold pressure is correct. I was not thinking clearly. But that is not unusual. Mark Jones Mueller Sales Corporation Ph: 262-781-5310 Fax:262-781-4130 E-mail: mjones@muellersales.com Web: www.muellersales.com -----Original Message----- From: Ron Freiberger [mailto:rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 9:51 AM To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge Manifold "pressure" is conventionally measured is Inches of mercury, 0 to 30. If it's AIRCRAFT, it's more expensive. And 2.25 inch diameter, and nice looking. If you go to PepBoys, and buy one for your CAR, it'll be cheaper. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:10 AM To: KR Net Subject: Re: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge >OK folks this might be the dummest question but... >Is a vacuum gauge going from 30" of vacuum down to 0" the same as a >manifold pressure gauge going from 0" of pressure up to 30". If so, and >it's just a dial face change, why are the latter so much more >expensive. See, for example, in the Aircraft Spruce catalog (mine is >old at >1998-1999): No, the two gauges are not the same. A vacuum gauge is measured in inches of mercury and uses an internal bourdon tube which flexes and contracts with pressure changes and is what a standard pressure gauge uses to measure pressure. A manifold pressure gauge measures inches of water which is a very low pressure and incorporates a diaphragm to make the measurement and is calibrated accordingly. Now, if you really want to save money, my company sells every type of pressure gauge you can think of and we have 63mm (2 1/2") 0-30" hg gauges for $25 each. These are all stainless steel case, panel mount held in place by a U-clamp. Mark Jones (N886MJ Wales, WI _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:14:57 -0600 From: Mark Jones To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge Message-ID: <370D915E4564D611B0530050DABB9FC20190293F@SIC-EXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 4 Here is a good article. http://www.rodmachado.com/Product/Books/Excerpts/c3-29.pdf Mark Jones Mueller Sales Corporation Ph: 262-781-5310 Fax:262-781-4130 E-mail: mjones@muellersales.com Web: www.muellersales.com -----Original Message----- From: Mark Jones [mailto:Mjones@muellersales.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:08 AM To: 'rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com'; 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge Thanks Ron/Kenneth for the correction. Inches of mercury for manifold pressure is correct. I was not thinking clearly. But that is not unusual. Mark Jones Mueller Sales Corporation Ph: 262-781-5310 Fax:262-781-4130 E-mail: mjones@muellersales.com Web: www.muellersales.com -----Original Message----- From: Ron Freiberger [mailto:rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 9:51 AM To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge Manifold "pressure" is conventionally measured is Inches of mercury, 0 to 30. If it's AIRCRAFT, it's more expensive. And 2.25 inch diameter, and nice looking. If you go to PepBoys, and buy one for your CAR, it'll be cheaper. Ron Freiberger mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:10 AM To: KR Net Subject: Re: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge >OK folks this might be the dummest question but... >Is a vacuum gauge going from 30" of vacuum down to 0" the same as a >manifold pressure gauge going from 0" of pressure up to 30". If so, and >it's just a dial face change, why are the latter so much more >expensive. See, for example, in the Aircraft Spruce catalog (mine is >old at >1998-1999): No, the two gauges are not the same. A vacuum gauge is measured in inches of mercury and uses an internal bourdon tube which flexes and contracts with pressure changes and is what a standard pressure gauge uses to measure pressure. A manifold pressure gauge measures inches of water which is a very low pressure and incorporates a diaphragm to make the measurement and is calibrated accordingly. Now, if you really want to save money, my company sells every type of pressure gauge you can think of and we have 63mm (2 1/2") 0-30" hg gauges for $25 each. These are all stainless steel case, panel mount held in place by a U-clamp. Mark Jones (N886MJ Wales, WI _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:18:31 -0600 From: larry flesner To: KRnet Subject: KR>g limits Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040209101831.00806ad0@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 what are the g limits to the design? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dave, The design G rating for the KR2 is + or - 7 G's at 800 pounds. If you did not get plans with the project I would recommend you search for a good set of used plans or purchase a new set from Rand Robinson. I can't imagine owning a KR without having a set of plans. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:18:47 -0600 From: larry flesner To: KRnet Subject: KR>Alum Fuel Lines and Flared ends Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040209101847.007bd450@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <4026319E.000009.02976@Computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 6 For those of you that have fuel lines that have a leak you can't seem to get rid of (at a flare fitting) , Wick's sells a little insert that you install to help eliminate such problems. I had one fitting that I absolutely could not get to stop "weeping" fuel. I had it off and looked at it several times before seeing a hair-like scratch across the tubing flare. I filed the first half of the flare off with a file, re-flared the tube, and the leak was gone. I think the little insert would have fixed the problem also. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:42:07 -0600 From: "Ron Eason" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Alum Fuel Lines and Flared ends Message-ID: <002f01c3ef2b$a89bf090$6501a8c0@Administration> References: <3.0.6.32.20040209101847.007bd450@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 These things are called flare savers. They are shaped like the flare 37 deg. and are made of soft metal or plastic. We used them in alott of rocket engine equipment. they saved having to remake a tubing runs. They are available at any tubing-fitting supply house. KRron ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: KR>Alum Fuel Lines and Flared ends > > > For those of you that have fuel lines that have a leak you can't seem > to get rid of (at a flare fitting) , Wick's sells a little insert that > you install to help eliminate such problems. > > I had one fitting that I absolutely could not get to stop "weeping" > fuel. I had it off and looked at it several times before seeing a > hair-like scratch across the tubing flare. I filed the first half of > the flare off with a file, re-flared the tube, and the leak was gone. > I think the little insert would have fixed the problem also. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:37:48 -0600 From: larry flesner To: KRnet Subject: KR>G rating Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20040209103748.0080b210@pop.midwest.net> In-Reply-To: <402771D2.000013.01920@Computer> References: <00b201c3eeb3$acdbf9c0$8d7ba8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 8 > >I believe that the advertised G loading is +- 4, although I know that I >read many years ago, that it was +7 -4, so who really knows for sure. >I do believe that I have seen some 4+ G pull ups at some of the >gatherings. Plan on being in Mt. Vernon is September. Daniel R. Heath - ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This info is located somewhere in the first four or five pages of the construction manual. I don't have my manual in the house or I'd give you the page number. I'm quite certain though that it is + or - 7 G's at 800 pounds. Marty Roberts broke his baggage holder on a 6G pull-up at Red Oak. I saw the G meter when he landed. I think it also broke his nerve as he immediately had a cold beer and called it quits for the day. Can you blame him? Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 18:12:45 +0100 From: "Serge F. Vidal" To: , "'KRnet'" Subject: RE: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge Message-ID: <000001c3ef2f$eff7ed50$2c0101c0@ate.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 9 On ZS-WEC, my KR2, I converted all the automotive size instruments into aircraft size (2.25 inches) instruments. All I had to do was to make square flanges of the correct size out of aluminium 2.8mm sheets (I dreamt of a thicker, plastic sheet, without finding one), then cut out a hole in the middle at the correct automotive hole size, slip the instrument in, and voila! To secure the instrument to the flange, I epoxied each instrument to its new flange, but quite frankly, the C-clamp would have worked too. I have PowerPoint templates for these flanges, if anybody wants them. Just print them on paper (ideally a sticker label), then cut the instrument holes with your favorite hole saw or fly cutter, then drill the mounting holes, then cut with a hacksaw. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Tunis, Tunisia Ron Freiberger wrote: [If it's AIRCRAFT, it's more expensive. And 2.25 inch diameter, and nice looking. If you go to PepBoys, and buy one for your CAR, it'll be cheaper.] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 09:38:46 -0800 From: larry severson To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR>new guy here! Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20040209093808.00ba8008@pop-server.socal.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <402771D2.000013.01920@Computer> References: <00b201c3eeb3$acdbf9c0$8d7ba8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 10 AI do believe that I have seen some 4+ G pull ups at some of the gatherings. >Plan on being in Mt. Vernon is September. Marty said he did a 6 G pull up at the 2003 gathering. Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 10:36:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Fuenzalida To: serge.vidal@ate-international.com, KRnet Subject: RE: KR>Vacuum gauge vs manifold pressure gauge Message-ID: <20040209183616.14129.qmail@web42001.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <000001c3ef2f$eff7ed50$2c0101c0@ate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 11 Please send the Power Point template for the flanges. I may not use them, but I would like to see them. Thanks. Ray "Serge F. Vidal" wrote: On ZS-WEC, my KR2, I converted all the automotive size instruments into aircraft size (2.25 inches) instruments. All I had to do was to make square flanges of the correct size out of aluminium 2.8mm sheets (I dreamt of a thicker, plastic sheet, without finding one), then cut out a hole in the middle at the correct automotive hole size, slip the instrument in, and voila! To secure the instrument to the flange, I epoxied each instrument to its new flange, but quite frankly, the C-clamp would have worked too. I have PowerPoint templates for these flanges, if anybody wants them. Just print them on paper (ideally a sticker label), then cut the instrument holes with your favorite hole saw or fly cutter, then drill the mounting holes, then cut with a hacksaw. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Tunis, Tunisia Ron Freiberger wrote: [If it's AIRCRAFT, it's more expensive. And 2.25 inch diameter, and nice looking. If you go to PepBoys, and buy one for your CAR, it'll be cheaper.] _______________________________________ to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing onlineFrom crainey1@cfl.rr.com Mon Feb 09 10:58:38 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-02-smtplb.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.5.132] helo=ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1AqGcA-000CD4-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2004 10:58:38 -0800 Received: from RaineyDay (242.69.33.65.cfl.rr.com [65.33.69.242]) by ms-smtp-02.tampabay.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i19InP5k023938 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:49:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006b01c3ef3d$6ee2b2a0$f2452141@RaineyDay> From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: "KRnet" Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 13:49:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Fuel pumps X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Netters, ON auto applications where there is multi-point fuel injection the fuel = IS constantly re-circulated back to the tank, through a return line that = is BELOW the fuel pickup for the fuel pump. The pump is only immersed in = fuel completely at high levels and is cooled by gas flowing through it, = hence the need for constant circulation. It also provides alot more fuel = volume and pressure, so that at high demands the pressure regulator, = also a part of ALL late model systems, will close and boost the normal = line pressure up from 30-45 psi upwards of 50-65 psi, for the period of = acceleration. This makes it possible for the fuel injection system to = replace the mechanical carb part known as a power valve, which opens to = supplement the fuel required only during acceleration. The pump is = located in the tank to allow it to push the entire time not pull. Even = the earlier TBI injection systems re-circulated fuel just at a lower = pressure. Warnings to relieve pressure are for safety due to the high = line pressure maintained for normal operation. IF this type of system = is to be used on a KR the entire operating system must be duplicated or = you will be going way out on a limb designing your own version. =20 Colin & Bev Rainey KR2(td) N96TA Sanford, FL crainey1@cfl.rr.com or crbrn96ta@hotmail.com http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.htmlFrom jmw116@socal.rr.com Mon Feb 09 11:30:42 2004 Received: from ms-smtp-03-qfe0.socal.rr.com ([66.75.162.135] helo=ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com) by lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1)id 1AqH7C-000D4q-00 for krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 09 Feb 2004 11:30:42 -0800 Received: from computer (cpe-24-24-218-71.socal.rr.com [24.24.218.71]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id i19JLdG7021724 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:21:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000e01c3ef31$32355da0$47da1818@socal.rr.com> From: "JW" To: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:21:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1b3 Subject: KR>Aligning HS X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b3 Precedence: list Reply-To: KRnet List-Id: KRnet List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Help: Hey Group, Been a long time with no posts from me, yay. I made the plywood = sheer web for mounting the HS but havn't installed it yet. What are the = tricks to aligning the HS perfect?=20 Also there is a KR2 in the boat stage that just moved into my EAA 96 = hanger, if your on the list please contact me. Thats a motivation, 3 = KR's in one big hanger all next to each other.I looked at how he made = the web but of course I cant tell how he aligned it. Now that I have my pilots license I have been buzy as can be working = on my IFR rating, Im going to Palm Springs P-51 fly-in on Feb 28th if = anyone else local is going let me know. Justin Making a new webpage ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:49:21 -0500 From: "Jack Cooper" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Fuel Gauge Message-ID: <410-22004219194921531@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 12 Dan I also have the J.C. Whitney senders mounted in the tank and a set of gauges that came with the senders. I would like fuel gauges to match my other engine instruments so I'm thinking of ordering P/N 2A7V pg 350 AS&S cat. I would think that any resistance gauge would work but there may be some calibration problem. > [Original Message] > From: Dan Heath > To: krnet@mylist.net > Date: 2/9/2004 6:37:42 AM > Subject: KR>Fuel Gauge > > I have a fuel sender and gauge like you would buy at an auto supply > store or > J C Whitney's. Of course the sender would be a little difficult to > swap out, > but I am thinking of replacing the gauge. What do I need to consider > to be sure that I get one that will work with the sender? Or, is this > something that should not be done? > > > > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > DanRH@KR-Builder.org > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering > > > > See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 306, Issue 2 *************************************